doe1994:


Except men literally murder and rape children all over the world around 200 million times more than women.

snakebeat:

Reminds me of the rebellious attack satan launched against God thousands of years ago. This is what happens when u try to cheat nature...
I just feel for lives that are going to be lost for giving certain jobs to some incompetent & weak hands in the nearest future, all for the sake of equality.....

Nonso23:


Now I'm convinced it is the most mentally incompetent females that support this poisonous movement. It makes perfect sense I mean if I am incompetent and needed an avenue to express my incompetence without repercussions I too would join the feminism bandwagon

Pray tell how accomplished civilizations has anything to do with feminism
The UAE is more accomplished in social welfare and have one of the most stable economies in the world and that must be because they are largely patriarchal. Wow solid logic.

Feminism the exaltation of incompetence.

MrsChima:
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Are you speaking of feminists wanted more women than men on boards and the workplace or you speaking of feminists wanted equal representation of genders in the workplace?

freecocoa:
Are you saying that the level of physical training one can take, determines who's fit for the job? It doesn't matter what the standards are, the question is, how necessary are they?

Nonso23:

So abortion is murder now? So the ending the life of a non-conscious fetus is the same thing as raping and murdering women, children and men? It's funny you only mention war because (even thought it's mostly women and children who are effected in war) on the other factors, it's men who run child and human trafficking organizations all over the world as well as worldwide pedophile rings, human slave market, Drug Cartels and Drug trafficking network that is literally tied to the deaths of millions of people dying from cocaine/heroin/meth overdose. Not to mention the obvious millions of rape and child sexual abuse by men all around the world. Nice try though in using the Abortion argument for why women are so evil.

In wars people die and all manners of human rights are violated. It doesn't make it right but it doesn't stop it from happening. Men women and children die - that's why it is called a war.
Funnily the killers of children a.k.a women are quite on the increase and have so far eliminated over 1.3 billion kids under the guise of abortion and mundane reasons from the late 1980's till today.
Very prolific serial murder record for some weaker sex.

Nonso23:

Except you forget the part where majority of the STEM workers in the patriarchal middle eastern countries are women. Women have better education rates and college graduation in the UAE and every country in the region just like they do in the US. Nice try again but your fallacious logic bites on itself.

Now I'm convinced it is the most mentally incompetent females that support this poisonous movement. It makes perfect sense I mean if I am incompetent and needed an avenue to express my incompetence without repercussions I too would join the feminism bandwagon

Pray tell how accomplished civilizations has anything to do with feminism
The UAE is more accomplished in social welfare and have one of the most stable economies in the world and that must be because they are largely patriarchal. Wow solid logic.

Feminism the exaltation of incompetence.

larryUG:

Freecocoa, women are not discriminated against when it comes to military stuffs. for eg, Russian secret service and CIA have female agents who in my opinion are very important. there are certain operations u cannot send a man to do, so even after the physical training some other form of training is required for the women to exceed. buh when it comes to the marines, their operations are more physical and mental and their missions are defined. for eg u cannot send a marine to be a spy, it is d job of the secret service. marines are meant to survive under the most intense physical conditions possible, they train to be in ice cold waters, deserts, practice exchange of gear underwater in unforgiving deep-sea pressures. u do not expect them to lower the standard of their training to accommodate women because it would reduce the survivability of the marines if such a condition arises. if the woman is able to make it thru dt physical barrier then let her be a marine, else let her go. the physical training is extremely important

doe1994:


It is important to note that women who are involved in military and CIA are largely very strong headed masculine types (Hilary Clinton types). These are not the average women and when they average more sensitive/emotional women do end up in male dominated sectors, they do get treated differently and in insensitive ways in relation to their male counterparts.

Nonso23:


Another show of incompetence. No solid argument just trivial banter. It is expected. You are a feminist after all.

Now we are discussing religious extremism and no longer feminism

What has their religion got to do with their progress as a nation? Their rich culture and moral code which you are in no position whatsoever to criticize
No strawman fallacy will fly here. stick to your argument of feminism is the reason for development and show the world how utterly mentally deficient you are.

Nonso23:

If every system can be circumvented then how is the quota system suddenly immune to this innate tendency to break rules in people?
How is it suddenly the answer when it is the weakest form of qualification from every technical standpoint?



Quotas and merits are parallels. No need to sugar coat issues. How can two people aiming at working in a company in the same department with the same job responsibilities be screened using different procedures - in this case gender. Throw in everybody and establish a fair fight. Those who win, merit it. Those who fail should lick their wounds. Nature doesn't support quotas. It is survival of the fittest.


Now this isn't even an issue to say the least. Any sensible business person realizes the importance of track record and branding in decision making. Why don't you go out and throw your money at the next person that suggests a brilliant business plan? No track record, no portfolio and no branding. It is simply the way of business and that doesn't in any way impede the ability of women to penetrate the bias. It just makes it harder which is FAIR!




'Generalization' and 'stereotype' are just politically correct words. They are truths that are exaggerated and nothing more. Women are more emotional - truth; men are more aggressive - truth. The blanket statement using words such as generalizations/stereotypes is indeed inconsequential when profit margins are considered.
If that is the case let's throw away generalizations and while we are at it statistics and logic too so that we can live in an ideal world where objects cannot be studied in groups to arrive at informed and excellent conclusions just because 'all men are not the same or all women are not the same'
ah i forgot... women enjoy fantasizing too. Newsflash this is a practical world and not an ideal one.

Except there are other generalizations too like how Men on average have less empathy, compassion, sensitivity, generosity, less control and regulation of their emotion ( can't control anger, drink alcohol when depressed, abuse wife when mad) then women. They are also worse at looking at problems as a whole as opposed to looking at things sequentially or piece by piece. I am a neuroscience major so I have studied the sex differences between brains and I can easily point out the most accurate generalizations between two genders.

larryUG:

Freecocoa, women are not discriminated against when it comes to military stuffs. for eg, Russian secret service and CIA have female agents who in my opinion are very important. there are certain operations u cannot send a man to do, so even after the physical training some other form of training is required for the women to exceed. buh when it comes to the marines, their operations are more physical and mental and their missions are defined. for eg u cannot send a marine to be a spy, it is d job of the secret service. marines are meant to survive under the most intense physical conditions possible, they train to be in ice cold waters, deserts, practice exchange of gear underwater in unforgiving deep-sea pressures. u do not expect them to lower the standard of their training to accommodate women because it would reduce the survivability of the marines if such a condition arises. if the woman is able to make it thru dt physical barrier then let her be a marine, else let her go. the physical training is extremely important