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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 5:08pm On Dec 14, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:



I love how they qualify that...Muslim YORUBA and Hausa slaves.

Interpretation - Yoruba is dominant, Hausa is subordinate.

Is nothing left to say! cool cool

looool! that was a lie written by your brother! theres no proof that hausas were involved, nor was it implied in the article that hausas had anything to do with it. but the yoruba were dubbed as one of the dominant ethnicities in the article, please refer to my earlier posts!!! now FOH! you inferior being!
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:09pm On Dec 14, 2015
Although i already told you i don't accept Wikipedia as source... who knows wetter you edit it... the general knowledge was know Yoruba were slaves Hausa were never slaves... although they might be Hausa speakers.... Yoruba were known as nago in Brazil idiot
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2015
MorrowCaligari:


idiottt, you didnt read the part of your own post that spoke of migrants? besides, ghanaian ethnicities speak hausa. could be any one of those

Ohohohoh....mofo, there was no Ghana or Nigeria. grin grin


What else you got?

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2015
Don't give me Wikipedia source you piece of shit.. now tell me origin of your name you stupid slave
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 5:12pm On Dec 14, 2015
kaura5000:
Although i already told you i don't accept Wikipedia as source... who knows wetter you edit it... the general knowledge was know Yoruba were slaves Hausa were never slaves... although they might be Hausa speakers.... Yoruba were known as nago in Brazil idiot

Lmao.... cheesy cheesy cheesy

What else you got?
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:13pm On Dec 14, 2015
Please endeavor to know the difference between Hausa speakers and Hausa people...
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:14pm On Dec 14, 2015
I would tell you what i got .. when you tell me origin of the name Yoruba..
OPCNAIRALAND:

Lmao.... cheesy cheesy cheesy
What else you got?
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 14, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:


Ohohohoh....mofo, there was no Ghana or Nigeria. grin grin


What else you got?


wtf but the artticle you quoted was speaking of a place in ghana? lol! youre clueless, just like your people before you.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 6:35pm On Dec 14, 2015
Not cool seeing Hausa and Yoruba people fighting on this thread. Get along guys.

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 7:05pm On Dec 14, 2015
Fulaman198:
Not cool seeing Hausa and Yoruba people fighting on this thread. Get along guys.

nothing serious. just having a bit of harmless fun.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:25am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:



looool! liar liar pants on fire, nothing suggests that there were hausa slaves involved in that. see the fact that youve resorted to lying means you have nothing on us

A slave’s identity was not only stripped when sold into the slave trade, but they were assigned a new identity that was to be immediately adopted in stride. This new identity often came in the form of a new name, created by a Christian or Portuguese first name randomly issued by the baptizing priest, and followed by the label of an African nation. In Brazil, these "labels" were predominantly Angola, Congo, Yoruba, Ashanti, Rebolo, Anjico, Gabon, and Mozambique.[38] Often these names were not assigned with regards to ethnicity or origin, but only served as a way for Europeans to divide Africans in a familiar manner. Anthropologist Jack Goody stated, "Such new names served to cut the individuals off from their kinfolk, their society, from humanity itself and at the same time emphasized their servile status".

why is there no hausa community in brazil like there is yoruba? liar liar liar

hausas have never been enslaved by another race.

Shut up ode! The Bahia slave rebellion was conducted by Ethnic yorubas and hausas, Hausa descendants of slaves are also present in salaga

It's general knowledge that the slaves taken to Bahia came from the bight of Benin. .where slave traders were yoruba and Dahomeans. Hausa couldn't have met themselves in Bahia without being slaves to yorubas first.


You have no proof that slave masters stripped them off their identity, giving new names is so far from stripping their identities. the slaves knew where they came from, except children or descendant of slaves shipped in but the first generation themselves knew all about their home. the Europeans kept records of the slaves they shipped and where they were shipped to. . You iidiots were sold by we yorubas


Ahuna - Ahuna was a Nagô slave who lived in Salvador. He travelled frequently to Santo Amaro where his owner had a sugar plantation. It has been suggested that his presence was a key factor in the timing of the rebellion.
Pacífico Lucatan - Lucatan was a Nagô slave who worked as a tobacco roller. He was in prison at the time of the rebellion, and one of the main goals was to free him.
Luís Sanim - Sanim was a Nupe slave who also worked as a tobacco roller. He ran a fund where each member contributed a day's wages for slave labor, presumably monthly, and this money was divided into three parts: one part for cloth to make Muslim garments; a part to masters' portions of slave wages—since Malê slaves did not work on Fridays; and one part to help buy letters of manumission.
Manoel Calafate - Calafate travelled to Santo Amaro to mobilize rebels on the eve of the uprising. He took an active part in the fighting and appears to have been killed in Palace Square.

Elesbão do Corma - Elesbão do Corma was a HAUSA freedman who was known in the African community as DANDARA. He owned a tobacco shop which was also used as a meeting place for Malês. He also travelled through the Recôncavo for his business, and brought the Muslim faith to slaves on the plantations there.[16]



Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture.
Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. ..
Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas . You people have it easy accepting ur defeat and love to remain conquered

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:33am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:





and most hausa speakers in ghana are speakers and not actually hausa!

Hausa speakers, not hausa What again is left to identify as hausa? Must u all be born of the same mother? Infact nothing is left of ur original selves. . Today the only thing "hausa" is ur language. .which isn't even the original nilo-saharan language of your ancestors. .
Fvcking maggot slaves

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:33am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


Shut up ode! The Bahia slave rebellion was conducted by Ethnic yorubas and hausas, Hausa descendants of slaves are also present in salaga

It's general knowledge that the slaves taken to Bahia came from the bight of Benin. .where slave traders were yoruba and Dahomeans. Hausa couldn't have met themselves in Bahia without being slaves to yorubas first.


You have no proof that slave masters stripped them off their identity, giving new names is so far from stripping their identities. the slaves knew where they came from, except children or descendant of slaves shipped in but the first generation themselves knew all about their home. the Europeans kept records of the slaves they shipped and where they were shipped to. . You iidiots were sold by we yorubas


Ahuna - Ahuna was a Nagô slave who lived in Salvador. He travelled frequently to Santo Amaro where his owner had a sugar plantation. It has been suggested that his presence was a key factor in the timing of the rebellion.
Pacífico Lucatan - Lucatan was a Nagô slave who worked as a tobacco roller. He was in prison at the time of the rebellion, and one of the main goals was to free him.
Luís Sanim - Sanim was a Nupe slave who also worked as a tobacco roller. He ran a fund where each member contributed a day's wages for slave labor, presumably monthly, and this money was divided into three parts: one part for cloth to make Muslim garments; a part to masters' portions of slave wages—since Malê slaves did not work on Fridays; and one part to help buy letters of manumission.
Manoel Calafate - Calafate travelled to Santo Amaro to mobilize rebels on the eve of the uprising. He took an active part in the fighting and appears to have been killed in Palace Square.

Elesbão do Corma - Elesbão do Corma was a HAUSA freedman who was known in the African community as DANDARA. He owned a tobacco shop which was also used as a meeting place for Malês. He also travelled through the Recôncavo for his business, and brought the Muslim faith to slaves on the plantations there.[16]



Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture.
Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. ..
Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas . You people have it easy accepting ur defeat and love to remain conquered
Okay.

Meanwhile the dweeb can't cite where he got the idea that hausas were amongst the Bahia or whatever, so he resorts to lies.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:35am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


Hausa speakers, not hausa What again is left to identify as hausa? Must u all be born of the same mother? Infact nothing is left of ur original selves. . Today the only thing "hausa" is ur language. .which isn't even the original nilo-saharan language of your ancestors. .
Fvcking maggot slaves

Okay. I'm sure your father knows our original Nilo-Saharan language. Dakiki grin
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:38am On Dec 15, 2015
Lool! Only yoruba culture is exhibited in these areas because no other ethnicity had as many slaved as they did. Your race should be in the Guinness world records.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:40am On Dec 15, 2015
kaura5000:
Idiot never give me Wikipedia as a source... who knows even you can edit it.... but first before i talk to you go and learn the difference between Hausa speakers sold as slaves and real Hausa people

Ok lemme give the moronic hausa slaves another source grin
In many cases slaves held their new faith in Christianity
and their African beliefs at the same time, and sought to fuse the two. For
Muslim Africans this was less possible.
In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave
rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and
directed against the whites and against nonbelievers.


http://history-world.org/African%20Diaspora.htm

You'll say I edited that too cheesy
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:41am On Dec 15, 2015
Yoruba were not the most enslaved though, probably Angola, or SE .

@ Morrowcaligari.

btw you dont seem Hausa.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:42am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


Ok lemme give the moronic hausa slaves another source grin
In many cases slaves held their new faith in Christianity
and their African beliefs at the same time, and sought to fuse the two. For
Muslim Africans this was less possible.
In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave
rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and
directed against the whites and against nonbelievers.


http://history-world.org/African%20Diaspora.htm

You'll say I edited that too cheesy

Can you quote exactly where it mentions hausa in that article? Liar!


Whatever the case I'm sure my Hausa brothers, even if by some miracle were enslaved would never work with a race of sub humans like yours, that's how I know youre lying!!!
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:43am On Dec 15, 2015
tpiar:
Yoruba were not the most enslaved though, probably Angola, or SE .

@ Morrowcaligari.

btw you dont seem Hausa.

Loool! What do you mean I don't seem hausa??
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:45am On Dec 15, 2015
Hausa are laid back, they dont spend time arguing. The only person who did that here was an AA guy of Hausa ancestry, ie his parents were Hausa but he was AA.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:47am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:
Lool! Only yoruba culture is exhibited in these areas because no other ethnicity had as many slaved as they did. Your race should be in the Guinness world records.

Read you iidiot, read. I know it's difficult for an hausa man to get ssense but try. .defile all sstupidity in ur genes and gain some intelligence


Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture.
Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. ..
Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:49am On Dec 15, 2015
tpiar:
Hausa are laid back, they dont spend time arguing. The only person who did that here was an AA guy of Hausa ancestry, ie his parents were Hausa but he was AA.

What is AA?

Usually I wouldn't disturb myself with petty issues like this but if I'm being honest with you I'm just bored. I have nothing better to do with my life right now.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:51am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


Read you iidiot, read. I know it's difficult for an hausa man to get ssense but try. .defile all sstupidity in ur genes and gain some intelligence


Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture.
Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. ..
Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas




You referenced an article, now I ask where the article mentions hausa.

And like I said, your culture survived because your numbers exceed that of any other ethnicity there

Stop dodging my questions
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:53am On Dec 15, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:



I love how they qualify that...Muslim YORUBA and Hausa slaves.

Interpretation - Yoruba is dominant, Hausa is subordinate.

Is nothing left to say! cool cool

grin grin grin omiye mi waa se're. All these mumu mumu people that were enslaved by everybody trying to insult their superiors
I mean 200 years and counting, under fulani domination. Gosh! I weep for hausas cry

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:54am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:


What is AA?


African American.
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


grin grin grin omiye mi waa se're. All these mumu mumu people that were enslaved by everybody trying to insult their superiors
I mean 200 years and counting, under fulani domination. Gosh! I weep for hausas cry

What is fulani domination I ask?


Im.becile grin


Is this what you've resorted to? Bunsuru kawai grin


Biri da wando
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 15, 2015
tpiar:


African American.

Ooh...thanks
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:56am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:


nothing serious. just having a bit of harmless fun.

You must be very stuupid to call this harmless fun. You and kaura never meant anything less than harm.

I mean who opens a thread to downplay the Oyo empire, worse try to elevate hausaland over it

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:59am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


You must be very stuupid to call this harmless fun. You and kaura never meant anything less than harm.

I mean who opens a thread to downplay the Oyo empire, worse try to elevate hausaland over it

Well you're pissed because what he's saying is true. The Hausa states did raze Oyo did they not? When was Oyo established? Who even knew of oyo before the 17th century? When the Nupes were busy bullying you!


For me, it's just harmless fun, to you it's more than that because it's the bitter truth you can't fathom grin
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 2:05am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:



You referenced an article, now I ask where the article mentions hausa.

And like I said, your culture survived because your numbers exceed that of any other ethnicity there

Stop dodging my questions

grin grin you've finally gone stark stuupid. You couldn't find hausa mentioned in the piece i quoted?
Here it is again

In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave
rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and
directed against the whites and against nonbelievers.

http://history-world.org/African%20Diaspora.htm
Read from the Heading : The people and the Gods in exile.

grin grin thanks be to my Eleda for not making me an hausa man. .too much mumu mumu in ur genes

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 2:09am On Dec 15, 2015
MorrowCaligari:


Well you're pissed because what he's saying is true. The Hausa states did raze Oyo did they not? When was Oyo established? Who even knew of oyo before the 17th century? When the Nupes were busy bullying you!


For me, it's just harmless fun, to you it's more than that because it's the bitter truth you can't fathom grin
grin grin won gbe imi wa...now Hausas razed oyo cheesy grin grin what next you razed ile ife too?

Of course, truth to the inherently stuupid who can't tell facts from fiction

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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 2:11am On Dec 15, 2015
macof:


grin grin you've finally gone stark stuupid. You couldn't find hausa mentioned in the piece i quoted?
Here it is again

Read from the Heading : The people and the Gods in exile.
maybe i am indeed stuupid because i cant find a single darn place where hausa is mentioned in this article, but yoruba is all over the place


The People And Gods In exile

Africans brought as slaves to America faced a peculiar series of
problems. Working conditions were exhausting and life for most slaves was
often "nasty, brutish, and short." Family formation was made difficult because
of the general shortage of women carried in the slave trade, a situation made
even worse where the ratio of men to women was sometimes as much as three to
one. To this was added the insecurity of slave status in which family members
might be separated by sale or by the masters' whim. Still, most slaves lived
in family units even if their marriages were not always sanctioned by the
religion of their masters.

Throughout the Americas, wherever Africans were brought, aspects of their
language, religion, artistic sensibilities, and other elements of culture
survived. To some extent the amount of continuity depended on the intensity
and volume of the slave trade from a particular area. Yoruba culture, for
example, was particularly strong in northeastern Brazil because the trade
between it and the Bight of Benin was heavy and continuous in the early 19th
century. During certain periods, Akan peoples predominated in Jamaica, while
Ewe or Dahomeans predominated in Haiti. Some slaveholders tried to mix up the
slaves on their plantations so that strong African identities would be lost,
but colonial dependence on slavers who dealt continually with the same region
tended to undercut such policies. In the reality of slavery in the Americas,
Africans had to adapt and change and to incorporate other African peoples and
their ideas and customs. Moreover, there were also the ways and customs of the
masters that were both imposed and adopted. Thus, what emerged as
Afro-American culture reflected specific African roots adapted to a new
reality. Afro-American culture was dynamic and creative in this sense.

Religion was an obvious example of continuity and adaptation. Slaves were
converted to Catholicism by Spaniards and Portuguese, and slaves were capable
of fervent devotion as members of Black Catholic brotherhoods some of which
were organized by African origins. Still, African religious ideas and
practices did not die out, and many African slaves were accused of
"witchcraft" by the Inquisition in those colonies. In the English islands,
obeah was the name given to the African religious practices, and the men and
women knowledgeable in them were held in high regard within the community. In
Brazilian candomble (Yoruba) and Haitian Vodun (Aja), rather fully developed
versions of African religion flourished and continue until the present,
despite attempts to suppress them.

The reality of the Middle Passage meant that religious ideas and concepts
were easier to transfer than the institutional aspects of religion. Without
religious specialists or a priestly class, aspects of African religions were
changed or transformed by contact with other African peoples as well as with
colonial society. In many cases slaves held their new faith in Christianity
and their African beliefs at the same time, and sought to fuse the two. For
Muslim Africans this was less possible. In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave
rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and
directed against the whites and against nonbelievers.

Resistance and rebellion were other aspects of African- American history.
Recalcitrance, running away, and direct confrontation were present wherever
slaves were held. As early as 1508 African runaways disrupted communications
on Hispaniola, and in 1527 a plot to rebel was uncovered in Mexico City.
Throughout the Americas communities of runaway slaves formed. In Jamaica,
Colombia, Venezuela, Haiti, and Brazil runaway communities were continuous and
persistent. In Brazil, during the 17th century, Palmares, an enormous runaway
slave kingdom with numerous villages and a population of perhaps 8,000 to
10,000 people, resisted Portuguese and Dutch attempts to destroy it for a
century. Although its inhabitants were both Creoles and Africans of various
backgrounds, its origins, organization, and leadership were Angolan. In
Jamaica, the runaway "Maroons" were able to gain some independence and a
recognition of their freedom. So-called ethnic slave rebellions organized by a
particular African group were relatively common in the Caribbean and Brazil in
the 18th century. In North America where reinforcement from the slave trade
was less important, resistance was also important, but it was based less on
African origins or ethnicities.

Perhaps, the most remarkable story of African American resistance is
found in the forests of Suriname, a former Dutch plantation colony. There
large numbers of slaves ran off in the 18th century and mounted an almost
perpetual war in the rain forest against the various expeditions sent to hunt
them down. Those captured were brutally executed, but eventually a truce
developed. Today about 50,000 Maroon descendants still live in Suriname and
French Guiana. The Suriname Maroons maintained many aspects of their West
African background in terms of language, kinship relations, and religious
beliefs, but these were fused with new forms and ways drawn from European and
American Indian contacts resulting from their New World experience. From this
fusion based on their own creativity, a truly Afro-American culture was
created.



so please point it out for me, you lying piece of rat sh.iiit!!!!!!!!


grin grin thanks be to my Eleda for not making me an hausa man. .too much mumu mumu in ur genes
i could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap an argument better than yours.

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