qblaze:

Are we sure that this Queen of Sheba fable is not a cover up for something more sinister? Why did Fake Bishop Oyedepo decide to lodge in the same hotel with this lady?

It wouldn't surprise me if they are having an unholy affair.

I wouldnt go as far as saying they're having an affair, but its very suspicious the way the woman is being given all this publicity.

davidylan:

Here was why the tithes was instituted in the old testament - “I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the Tent of Meeting” (Numbers 18:21).

the levites were not allowed to work nor have inheritance in Israel nor own land, their lineage was specially set aside for the work of the priesthood and thus the tithes and offerings was all they had to depend on.

your pastors CAN work, have inheritances, own lands, cars and YET still demand the tithes of the poor?

At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town. And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do (Deuteronomy 14:28-29).

the tithes were paid ever 3 yrs (not every sunday like your thieves ask you) . . . w[b]as meant for levites, the alien, the orphans and the widows NOT for private jets, luxury cars, huge churches and CU.
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Levites were like Osu but since we don't have them anymore, should we artificially create them so that you guys will be satisfied. The closest in Nigeria now are the amajiris but they will rather die than collect alms directly from a church[for some reason].

Besides didnt aloy-emeka just call me old school for referencing the OT? why do they always run to the OT for tithes and offerings and abandon it when it speaks against their greed?

Aloy~Emeka:

Jesus operated in the middle east( a pure desert), where will he sail these customized boats? Tigris river?. He chose the colt because it was an expensive ride. The triumphant entry means He entered Jerusalem like Abiola did in June 12 and with a Donkeycade too. Mary magdalene washed his feet with a perfume more expensive than Versace and He didn't complain. Why didn't He scold her and say 'haba, we for use the money feed hungry citizens' rather, it was Judas like many  nairalanders who complained about the price of the perfume.

you're lying again . . . have you seen the map of Israel? They have the mediteranean sea just behind them. Besides we know Peter was a fisherman, infact Christ met him in his fishing boat. Was that boat on land? He also borrowed boats to cross over rivers . . . una no read bible at all for sunday school? He walked on water, calmed the storm with the disciples in it . . .


If Christ was to choose the most expensive ride He would have gone for a gold chariot pulled by horses not a young colt.
He entered Jerusalem triumphantly because He is GOD HIMSELF! When you become a god then go do your own triumphant entry.
Mary perfumed His feet with her own perfume, we dont read of Christ using the offering money kept with Judas to buy Himself expensive perfume and it was done ONCE!

bawomolo:

Jesus did use water transportation at different points. so you have no point.


A perfume more expensive than versace?  chei, see levels.

You have to answer something though, do poor Christians go to heaven?

Of course but they were created to possess and enjoy the earth first and not just exist in it. The word of God will give you that knowledge. Poverty is an affliction from the evil one.

Aloy~Emeka:

Of course but they were created to possess and enjoy the earth first and not just exist in it. The word of God will give you that knowledge. Poverty is an affliction from the evil one.

Sorry, the word of God doesnt talk of us "possessing and enjoying the earth". If you have bible verses pls post.

@ davidlyan
That's true. Even the Judaist Jews haven't paid tithes since the records of the Levites were destroyed.

Aloy~Emeka:

Of course but they were created to possess and enjoy the earth first and not just exist in it. The word of God will give you that knowledge. Poverty is an affliction from the evil one.

then a Christian with this affliction won't get into heaven since they are possessed by evil. right?



hold up though, i thought things of the earth were considered vanity upon vanity?

Aloy~Emeka:

Levites were like Osu but since we don't have them anymore, should we artificially create them so that you guys will be satisfied. The closest in Nigeria now are the amajiris but they will rather die than collect alms directly from a church[for some reason].

you have the orphans, widows, fatherless even within the church. They cant send their kids to CU because they church they toiled to build is too expensive for them.

davidylan:

you're lying again . . . have you seen the map of Israel? They have the mediteranean sea just behind them. Besides we know Peter was a fisherman, infact Christ met him in his fishing boat. Was that boat on land? He also borrowed boats to cross over rivers . . . una no read bible at all for sunday school? He walked on water, calmed the storm with the disciples in it . . .


If Christ was to choose the most expensive ride He would have gone for a gold chariot pulled by horses not a young colt.
He entered Jerusalem triumphantly because He is GOD HIMSELF! When you become a god then go do your own triumphant entry.
Mary perfumed His feet with her own perfume, we dont read of Christ using the offering money kept with Judas to buy Himself expensive perfume and it was done ONCE!

The Magi gave Jesus Gold[David take note], Frankincense and myrrh yet God used the stars to direct them to Jesus. If God is against pastors riding in jets, why didn't He stop the magi from meeting and presenting young Jesus with expensive things like that. Do you know how many poor people in Nazareth that time?. Most of them live under $1 a year.

davidylan:

you have the orphans, widows, fatherless even within the church. They cant send their kids to CU because they church they toiled to build is too expensive for them.

Education is neither a requirement for heaven nor a necessity rather, Jesus is. Education is a luxury and can be placed under the same category as private jets. God will not ask you how many degrees you have on earth on judgment day.

Jesus was raised by a carpenter. not exactly a lucrative position.

was the gift of gold and myrhh a weekly payment?

bawomolo:

Jesus was raised by a carpenter. not exactly a lucrative position.

was the gift of gold and myrhh a weekly payment?

i tire for am. Maybe oyedepo shld have restricted his own gifts to when he was a baby.

@ Aloy Emeka

Has this fake doctor bishop used your brain to do jazz?

Why are you making fallacious statements?

The fact that the Magi presented Jesus with expensive gifts does not mean he led a life of shameless luxury like Fake Bishop Oyedepo.

bawomolo:

Jesus was raised by a carpenter. not exactly a lucrative position.

was the gift of gold and myrhh a weekly payment?

Its not the gift or the frequency that is the problem here, rather it is the principle behind the gift. David DieHard complained about pastors adorning themselves in pearls and emeralds yet His Jesus was adorned with it as a baby.

Aloy~Emeka:

Education is neither a requirement for heaven nor a necessity rather, Jesus is. Education is a luxury and can be placed under the same category as private jets. God will not ask you how many degrees you have on earth on judgment day.

Then what was the benefit of CU? why did your pastor LIE that giving to building CU was giving to God when it was simply giving him to build a business of no benefit to the body of Christ? why did he have thousands volunteering as if they were doing God a service when it was to give himself a luxury?

Aloy~Emeka:

Its not the gift or the frequency that is the problem here, rather it is the principle behind the gift. David DieHard complained about pastors adorning themselves in pearls and emeralds yet His Jesus was adorned with it as a baby.

1. He was not so adorned. I'm sure his parents spent that gift on something else.

2. Christ was born in a manger, according to you He wouldnt qualify as a "prosperous christian".

3. The priinciple behind the gift was WORSHIP, the wise men knew this was the SAVIOUR . . . and they told Herod so. What is the principle to giving your bishop a business built on the sweat of the poor?

bawomolo:

then a Christian with this affliction won't get into heaven since they are possessed by evil. right?



hold up though, i thought things of the earth were considered vanity upon vanity?

You got it twisted. Poor Christians are missing on the good things God prepared for them on earth but all hope is not lost because of their ignorance. God made you to enjoy from earth and enjoy more in heaven. Not to be a suffer head okada man.

anyone keeping track of aloy-emeka's lies so far?

Aloy~Emeka:

You got it twisted. Poor Christians are missing on the good things God prepared for them on earth but all hope is not lost because of their ignorance. God made you to enjoy from earth and enjoy more in heaven. Not to be a suffer head okada man.

hahahaha Paul, Peter, Stephen . . . even Christ who didnt have a place to lay His head and had to borrow boats to preach surely could not have come from this same genie/god that you claim.

Aloy~Emeka:

You got it twisted. Poor Christians are missing on the good things God prepared for them on earth but all hope is not lost because of their ignorance. God made you to enjoy from earth and enjoy more in heaven. Not to be a suffer head okada man.

One is ignorant because they are poor?

This plus the education is a luxury statement is baffling.  



some serious brainwashing has taken place here.

ALOY EMEKA vs EVERY POSTER  

davidylan:

Then what was the benefit of CU? why did your pastor LIE that giving to building CU was giving to God when it was simply giving him to build a business of no benefit to the body of Christ? why did he have thousands volunteering as if they were doing God a service when it was to give himself a luxury?

He never said that and he never promised any cheap education to anybody. The idea was to build a school where children can attend and receive biblical counselling easily which are hardly found in secret -cult- infested- strike- ridden- dilapidated Nigerian universities.

men! when will pple start using their God-given-brains  instead of relying on these pastors and prophets to think for them.i have personally heard from winners pastors that if u fail to pay ur tithes,things will be tight for u and the junkie even expected the members to say amen. there was this incident that happened  in one west african country`s branch of winners.2 yrs ago,it was said that the GO was visiting that country.the pastors quickly held meetings and asked the members to contribute money for the GOS jet´landing fees.i was taken aback by that statement.why should the already overtasked members contribute for the landing fees of a director who was coming to see his branch office. eventually,the man never came and their money was never refunded.and they are happily paying more into the coffers of the church. this is how brainwashed my pple have become with church issues.they are paying believing that the more u give to these overfed and overdressed conmen,the closer they will be to heaven. when i criticize these things,they find me to be hard on  "men of God".am too civilized to be taken in by such  cheap bunch of words.

bawomolo:

One is ignorant because they are poor?

Don't misquote me, I said one is poor because they are ignorant of what God planned for him/her. Ignorance is subjective to something. At least poor people in Ajegunle are not ignorant of weed.

This plus the education is a luxury statement is baffling.  

Yes, education is a luxury and not a necessity no matter how we desire it. Medical care is a necessity and you can barely live without it but shoot, you don't maths and english to to breathe. Jesus was an illiterate, wasn't He?

Aloy~Emeka:

He never said that and he never promised any cheap education to anybody. The idea was to build a school where children can attend and receive biblical counselling easily which are hardly found in secret -cult- infested- strike- ridden- dilapidated Nigerian universities.

the idea was to build a profitable business capitalizing on the dire situation of Nigeria's public education system and the brainless response of most "christians" to cajoling them to part with their money in the name of "investing in the kingdom".

You also forgot to add that the ""biblical counselling" would only be available to the rich though. How Christ must be weeping right now at how they have turned His gospel into a thing of merchandise.

davidylan:

hahahaha Paul, Peter, Stephen . . . even Christ who didnt have a place to lay His head and had to borrow boats to preach surely could not have come from this same genie/god that you claim.

Yet Andrew was a merchant. Mattew collected taxes and received a lot of dividends. None of them were poor, they just decided to live a selfless life as requested by jesus but it doesn't mean they were poor. Osama is living in squalor yet he is a dollar millionaire due to selfless living fueled by religion.

sorry sir, education is a necessity. whether it be formal or informal.   It's hard to create material wealth in a backwards community. It would take a real Oyedepo miracle to do that.

Don't misquote me, I said one is poor because they are ignorant of what God planned for him/her. Ignorance is subjective to something. At least poor people in Ajegunle are not ignorant of weed.

i find it hard to believe the bible that considers all these material things vanity upon vanity has planned material wealth for his believers.  It seems the gospel of salvation has being replaced with the gospel of consoligbadun.

can't knock the hustle though.  This gimmick does attract people.

Aloy~Emeka:

He never said that and he never promised any cheap education to anybody. The idea was to build a school where children can attend and receive biblical counselling easily which are hardly found in secret -cult- infested- strike- ridden- dilapidated Nigerian universities.

So the kids of the poor aren't entitled to the same biblical counselling accorded to the rich? - What a shame!

davidylan:

the idea was to build a profitable business capitalizing on the dire situation of Nigeria's public education system and the brainless response of most "christians" to cajoling them to part with their money in the name of "investing in the kingdom".

You also forgot to add that the ""biblical counselling" would only be available to the rich though. How Christ must be weeping right now at how they have turned His gospel into a thing of merchandise.

I think you are making these accusations up. papa Oyedepo never ever used kingdom jingo to blindfold people into building a university for him besides, the university is registered to the church. The board of directors are church elders and I doubt if Oyedepo knows how the university is run or anything about its finances.

Aloy~Emeka:

Yet Andrew was a merchant. Mattew collected taxes and received a lot of dividends. None of them were poor, they just decided to live a selfless life as requested by jesus but it doesn't mean they were poor. Osama is living in squalor yet he is a dollar millionaire due to selfless living fueled by religion.

Andrew was a merchant BEFORE he met Christ.
Matthew was a tax collector BEFORE he met Christ.
Peter was also a fishermen BEFORE he met Christ . . . but guess what?

the forsook ALL to follow Christ . . . read your bible before making things up.

If none of them were poor they would not have needed to pick their taxes from the mouth of a fish.

@aloy~emeka,men i cant help bt be angry by the way u are defending what is wrong all in the name of being a born-again christian. if that school was built to give pple biblical counselling that cant be found in other universities,why is it so expensive? if pple pay so much to get that knowledge,are theynot expected to be future pastors and men of GOD,dont u expect them to fleece their members inorder to recuprate from what they paid to mr Oyedepo? we cant keep fooling ourselves or be walking blind even when we have eyes. look at the environment around u and look at ur master`s,what do u see? then try and match his thirst for wealth acquisition to the things found in the bible. i also heard that it is his first son that manages the london branch.the guy no wan play with the inbound pouds.

Aloy~Emeka:

I think you are making these accusations up. papa Oyedepo never ever used kingdom jingo to blindfold people into building a university for him besides, the university is registered to the church. The board of directors are church elders and I doubt if Oyedepo knows how the university is run or anything about its finances.

Its obvious he did, judging by the unbiblical stuff you have peppered us with here. Besides your inability to back up any of the stuff you made up like the vicar of Christ on earth.
you also forget that i personally used to attend winners, my best friend started at winners with the Oyedepos way back in Kaduna in 1982 and my ex is still a very strong member of winners.

I dont need to make accusations up, i still remember the dross i had to sit thru every sunday. Infact i remember the first N5 i gave towards CU building offering.