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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Omotayor123(f): 7:54am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:


Yeah, I forgot to add tribalism.

But do you honestly think religion is not a problem? Seriously?
Read my Post again, I'm of the opinion it's the number one problem.
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 8:06am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:



2000 years ago, did they have modern technology and science? Did they have a basic understanding of our environment? Did they even have a proper system of government?

Does this even make sense? That everything 2000 years ago just by virtue of their timeline is backward? They had no technology but they built structures that even modern day science cannot understand like those Structures in Giza? They had no science but the Pythagoras and Archimedes Principle and Euclidean Geometry is still being used today? That's not even the point.

The point is, the presence or absence of science and technology does not make them backward. Progress for a nation is more mental and spiritual than scientific. That you use a modern phone or modern car doesn't mean you are the most progressive dude in your village. If your thoughts are unsound, science or technology can't help you hide backwardness.

JackBizzle:

Why then would a modern man use a religion that carries rules from 2000 years ago to rule his life? Do you think apostates should be killed as it is stated in the Islamic hadith? Do you think women should keep quiet in church as it is stated in the new testament? Should we still have slaves and should they obey their masters? Should we punish people for being gay?
You are begging the question. I actually would have loved to answer all but that would be making your work easy for you. You are to show me, how a rule from 2000 years back is making the country backward. How does women keeping quiet in church make Nigeria backward? Do women even keep quiet in church? I am not here to defend Islam but the Christianity that I know.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 8:18am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
Does this even make sense? That everything 2000 years ago just by virtue of their timeline is backward? They had no technology but they built structures that even modern day science cannot understand like those Structures in Giza? They had no science but the Pythagoras and Archimedes Principle and Euclidean Geometry is still being used today? That's not even the point.

The point is, the presence or absence of science and technology does not make them backward. Progress for a nation is more mental and spiritual than scientific. That you use a modern phone or modern car doesn't mean you are the most progressive dude in your village. If your thoughts are unsound, science or technology can't help you hide backwardness.

You are begging the question. I actually would have loved to answer all but that would be making your work easy for you. You are to show me, how a rule from 2000 years back is making the country backward. How does women keeping quiet in church make Nigeria backward? Do women even keep quiet in church? I am not here to defend Islam but the Christianity that I know.


Back in the day, I would have wasted my time explaining and explaining to someone like you who plays at being obtuse willingly.


Kindly think about the question you asked in bold in your comment. Isn't it foolish? The question answers itself, yet you went ahead to ask it. Your intention here is not to find the truth but to argue as dubiously as you can to defend your religion which you know is backwards.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 8:20am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:



Back in the day, I would have wasted my time explaining and explaining to someone like you who plays at being obtuse willingly.


Kindly think about the question you asked in bold in your comment. Isn't it foolish? The question answers itself, yet you went ahead to ask it. Your intention here is not to find the truth but to argue as dubiously as you can to defend your religion which you know is backwards.



Isn't it also foolish that we still use the Pythagoras Theorem to solve plane problems in Mathematics?

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 8:28am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
Isn't it also foolish that we still use the Pythagoras Theorem to solve plane problems in Mathematics?

So religion is made up of one rule? Christianity is just one rule? Why do you act silly like this?

Christianity and islam have many rules- many of which are outdated and senseless. Only a few religious rules make sense today.


The difference between that pythagoras theorem and religious rule is that science has expanded, tested and further applied the pythagoras theorem to different applications. Religion, on the other hand wants to remain the same- afterall, God is the same, yesterday, today and forever.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 8:32am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:


So religion is made up of one rule? Christianity is just one rule? Why do you act silly like this?

Christianity and islam have many rules- many of which are outdated and senseless. Only a few religious rules make sense today.


The difference between that pythagoras theorem and religious rule is that science has expanded, tested and further applied the pythagoras theorem to different applications. Religion, on the other hand wants to remain the same- afterall, God is the same, yesterday, today and forever.




The way you wrote one would think timeline was the problem. So how does christian rules affect the growth of the country? I don't mean Judaism but Christian rules.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 9:02am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
The way you wrote one would think timeline was the problem. So how does christian rules affect the growth of the country? I don't mean Judaism but Christian rules.


Keep asking questions to answers you already know.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:09am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:


Keep asking questions to answers you already know.
I don't.
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 9:15am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
I don't.

Then you sir, are ignorant. You seriously look at your country and cannot see the negative things christianity has done? grin

For your sake, I hope you are lying because someone can't be this ignorant

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 9:19am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:


Then you sir, are ignorant. You seriously look at your country and cannot see the negative things christianity has done? grin

For your sake, I hope you are lying because someone can't be this ignorant
Mention one of these things Christianity did to ruin this country? Is Christianity responsible for the foolishness of our leaders or people?

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by lepasharon(f): 10:33am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
Mention one of these things Christianity did to ruin this country? Is Christianity responsible for the foolishness of our leaders or people?

You're welcome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn81nLNkEgI

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 10:39am On Jun 04, 2017
lepasharon:


You're welcome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn81nLNkEgI
One? Christianity asked a man to kick at pregnant women?

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Nobody: 11:21am On Jun 04, 2017

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:28am On Jun 04, 2017
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 11:38am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
Lol. So how is this the fault of Christianity?


Lepasharon,

This guy is a professional time waster. He will act obtuse until you have succeeded in tiring yourself with him.

Anyone watching those videos knows that Christianity or religion can be used to brainwash and enslave people.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:40am On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:



Lepasharon,

This guy is a professional time waster. He will act obtuse until you have succeeded in tiring yourself with him.

Anyone watching those videos knows that Christianity or religion can be used to brainwash and enslave people.
I'm sorry to say this but if this is what you mean by 'religion is backward' you need to grow some brain cells. So this is what makes Christianity backward? I'm disappointed.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 11:42am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
I'm sorry to say this but if this is what you mean by 'religion is backward' you need to grow some brain cells. So this is what makes Christianity backward? I'm disappointed.

Troll on brother......troll on

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Nobody: 11:53am On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
Lol. So how is this the fault of Christianity?
No, it's the fault of Islam. I'm happy it sounded funny to you
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Joshthefirst(m): 12:04pm On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:


Dear nairalanders, please take notice of this human being called Joshthefirst.

He is an example of why Nigeria will not get better. Rather than learn something new, he would rather close his mind and call something that is factual "nonsense"

Note that he didnt elaborate why it is "nonsense".

This isn't new. This is old recycled nonsense. Blaming past history and worship for problems is foolish.

I've refuted arguments like this several times. I don't have the strength to do any recycling myself. Sorry.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 12:07pm On Jun 04, 2017
Joshthefirst:
This isn't new. This is old recycled nonsense. Blaming past history and worship for problems is foolish.

I've refuted arguments like this several times. I don't have the strength to do any recycling myself. Sorry.

Ok goodbye. No need to waste time

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 12:11pm On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:

Troll on brother......troll on
Trolling? I'm done.
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Sapiosexuality(m): 12:11pm On Jun 04, 2017
adepeter26:

No, it's the fault of Islam. I'm happy it sounded funny to you
You atheists are very dull if this is how Logic works in your world. Bye.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by lepasharon(f): 2:08pm On Jun 04, 2017
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by lepasharon(f): 2:17pm On Jun 04, 2017
JackBizzle:



Lepasharon,

This guy is a professional time waster. He will act obtuse until you have succeeded in tiring yourself with him.

Anyone watching those videos knows that Christianity or religion can be used to brainwash and enslave people.

Lool..I usually don't let these ppl drag me around in circles with them. I make my point and leave them to keep barking

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by lepasharon(f): 2:18pm On Jun 04, 2017
Joshthefirst:
This isn't new. This is old recycled nonsense. Blaming past history and worship for problems is foolish.

I've refuted arguments like this several times. I don't have the strength to do any recycling myself. Sorry.

You graduated yet
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 2:31pm On Jun 04, 2017
Omotayor123:
Read my Post again, I'm of the opinion it's the number one problem.

Sorry I must have misread
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jun 04, 2017
tosyne2much:
This is nothing nothing but the truth. Permit me to elaborate more on how religion has ruined this Africa

Christianity in Africa, especially Nigerian lacks several attributes that has kept us stagnant and backward. These attributes we lack are

Exposure, logic, facts, evidence, science, common sense, proof, reasoning, probability, thinking, intelligence, feasibility, confirmation, wisdom, likelihood, knowledge, rationality, realism, plausibility, intellect, open mindedness, analysis, induction, deduction, logistics, brainpower, coherence , saneness, consistency, congruity, enlightenment, sensibility, legitimacy, authenticity, predictability, believability, and foresight.

Religion has kept us back and stagnant in Africa and our over-spirituality as regards religion don't want science to advance any further, finding more evidence for evolution or perhaps the non-deistic mechanism of the universe’s creation. However, it doesn’t want people to become more knowledgeable about the origins and evolution and to unravel mystery.

In fact, it doesn’t want school children to be taught critical thinking skills but their thinking should only be within religion sentiments or superstition, hence, causing us to be unproductive

You can see that those who are able to think outside religion are the movers of yhe earth. They are people that have made landmarks across the world

May God help us in this part of the world
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Nobody: 2:55pm On Jun 04, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
You atheists are very dull if this is how Logic works in your world. Bye.
Lol.... grin
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Joshthefirst(m): 3:12pm On Jun 04, 2017
lepasharon:


You graduated yet
lol. Soon. I'm thinking of doing post graduates in the US.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 3:21pm On Jun 04, 2017
lepasharon:


Lool..I usually don't let these ppl drag me around in circles with them. I make my point and leave them to keep barking

Nice one
Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by Olu317(m): 5:00pm On Jun 04, 2017
tosyne2much:
This is nothing nothing but the truth. Permit me to elaborate more on how religion has ruined this Africa

Christianity in Africa, especially Nigerian lacks several attributes that has kept us stagnant and backward. These attributes we lack are

Exposure, logic, facts, evidence, science, common sense, proof, reasoning, probability, thinking, intelligence, feasibility, confirmation, wisdom, likelihood, knowledge, rationality, realism, plausibility, intellect, open mindedness, analysis, induction, deduction, logistics, brainpower, coherence , saneness, consistency, congruity, enlightenment, sensibility, legitimacy, authenticity, predictability, believability, and foresight.

Religion has kept us back and stagnant in Africa and our over-spirituality as regards religion don't want science to advance any further, finding more evidence for evolution or perhaps the non-deistic mechanism of the universe’s creation. However, it doesn’t want people to become more knowledgeable about the origins and evolution and to unravel mystery.

In fact, it doesn’t want school children to be taught critical thinking skills but their thinking should only be within religion sentiments or superstition, hence, causing us to be unproductive

You can see that those who are able to think outside religion are the movers of yhe earth. They are people that have made landmarks across the world

May God help us in this part of the world
Quite interesting reading through your post. But I beg to disagree with you on this subject matter. As far as I am concerned and those who belong to my school of thought , Christianity didn't hinder Africans or the so called Nigerians from self development. In fact, Christianity help shaped African school of thought as regard so many felt problems in the past. Do you want to blame Christianity for excess procreation of children by Africans,whom they aren't financially buoyant to cater for? Do you want to blame Christianity for the cause of uneducated Africans? Do you not know Christianity single handedly stop twins killing in part of Nigeria? What about the stoppage of human eaters in part of Eastern Nigeria? Do you want to blame Christianity for the shameless slave descendants of colour Americans that millions of of them stay out of schools or drop out of school? Are the Christians the ones that made Africans not to invest their ill got wealth in Africa ? Do you want to blame Christianity for some foolish beinge that would make money and ran away from their people, all in the name of “witchcraft " assumption and won't invest in their community but else where ? There exists too many advantages to the advent of Christianity in which it has added value. The reality is that most people that are well placed disconnect with people once become wealthy in African setting. It is basically the mentality of individuals that causes lukewarmness and it has nothing to do with Christianity. SELF DISCOVERY is the key to SELF DEVELOPMENT and this is the driving force to DEVELOPMENT TO the LARGER SOCIETY. This is absolutely lacking in today's Africa, precisely Nigeria,where people don't think out side the BOX. In the section, I function, Many that I had come across , have their views attached to the opinions of the past researchers and these set of people have over 95% of the same past history repackaged without exploring other avenue to seek more fact finding. The way out of our self inflicted backwardness is that the first parameter to nation building must be enshrined in development of individual mind because a well developed being will always want to be proactive and productive,even if few elements are tilting in wrong direction, the majority within the rank and file of uprightness will always have their way. So,dont blame Christianity for a problem that had existed in your tradition before the Christianity. Point of correction Christianity didn't come to the world through white people but Bronze looking people ( Hebrews /Jews /Israel). In fact, Africans who came back were the major workers on the field that helped stop the unnecessary attachment to things that can naturally have no connection to Fetish things. Take for instance, measles,cholera etc. In the olden days, the herbalists made people believed it was the gods that causes such sickness, when in reality, heat and dirty environment are major causes of the aforementioned. Self development is the key to nation building. And the only way for such is to encourage pupils /students to be more studious.

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Re: 3 Things Making Blacks/nigerians Backwards by JackBizzle: 5:36pm On Jun 04, 2017
Olu317:
Quite interesting reading through your post. But I beg to disagree with you on this subject matter. As far as I am concerned and those who belong to my school of thought , Christianity didn't hinder Africans or the so called Nigerians from self development. In fact, Christianity help shaped African school of thought as regard so many felt problems in the past. Do you want to blame Christianity for excess procreation of children by Africans,whom they aren't financially buoyant to cater for? Do you want to blame Christianity for the cause of uneducated Africans? Do you not know Christianity single handedly stop twins killing in part of Nigeria? What about the stoppage of human eaters in part of Eastern Nigeria? Do you want to blame Christianity for the shameless slave descendants of colour Americans that millions of of them stay out of schools or drop out of school? Are the Christians the ones that made Africans not to invest their ill got wealth in Africa ? Do you want to blame Christianity for some foolish beinge that would make money and ran away from their people, all in the name of “witchcraft " assumption and won't invest in their community but else where ? There exists too many advantages to the advent of Christianity in which it has added value. The reality is that most people that are well placed disconnect with people once become wealthy in African setting. It is basically the mentality of individuals that causes lukewarmness and it has nothing to do with Christianity. SELF DISCOVERY is the key to SELF DEVELOPMENT and this is the driving force to DEVELOPMENT TO the LARGER SOCIETY. This is absolutely lacking in today's Africa, precisely Nigeria,where people don't think out side the BOX. In the section, I function, Many that I had come across , have their views attached to the opinions of the past researchers and these set of people have over 95% of the same past history repackaged without exploring other avenue to seek more fact finding. The way out of our self inflicted backwardness is that the first parameter to nation building must be enshrined in development of individual mind because a well developed being will always want to be proactive and productive,even if few elements are tilting in wrong direction, the majority within the rank and file of uprightness will always have their way. So,dont blame Christianity for a problem that had existed in your tradition before the Christianity. Point of correction Christianity didn't come to the world through white people but Bronze looking people ( Hebrews /Jews /Israel). In fact, Africans who came back were the major workers on the field that helped stop the unnecessary attachment to things that can naturally have no connection to Fetish things. Take for instance, measles,cholera etc. In the olden days, the herbalists made people believed it was the gods that causes such sickness, when in reality, heat and dirty environment are major causes of the aforementioned. Self development is the key to nation building. And the only way for such is to encourage pupils /students to be more studious.


First of all, we have to be clear that christianity was brought to Nigeria by white men with slavery and colonization. Slavery is not a sin in the bible despite how rampant it was during biblical times.

Christianity is a foriegn religion no matter how you look at it. It creates inferiority complex. This is why some Nigerians are even remixing history to claim that they are descendants of Jews.

If christianity is good, then why is most of Europe discarding it? Why are Americans growing more and more irreligious every year?


Christianity and Islam are two big problems in Africa. Some churches and some mosques are nothing but glorified death cults. Just look at how pastors run amok- forcing members to eat grass and get sprayed with insecticides.



Regarding the good things christianity has done in the past in Nigeria, it has done more bad than good.

Christians brought education but was it originally with good intentions? European christians were in Nigeria as early as the 16th century but only brought their education in the 18th century.

The killing of twins was stopped by a christian, Mary Slessor. However, it is overhyped as many other tribes in Nigeria didnt kill twins.

cc sapiosexuality

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