Must we deceive? am shocked even Tudor is pointing accusing fingers. Come out and confess, Tudor boy.

this was the particular quote that turned me off this individual for good . . .

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=352961.msg4965403#msg4965403

Abu Zola:

Stop saying this u this woman. This is the same thing armed robber and fornicator say after perpetrating their act. God ve mercy

Its nice to beg God for forgiveness while still alive&theres time.Jesus emphasized dis in a parable of d prodigal son.What of terrorist dat say Allah Akbar &destroy pple&themselves?

The admission of being male and not female is not the strangest thing in the world. My issue comes from self-glorification and so on.

davidylan:

this was the particular quote that turned me off this individual for good . . .

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=352961.msg4965403#msg4965403

i'll add an extra favour, this is the post in case some folks dont want to open new tabs or windows.
From Mavenbox:

me, how SURE are you that McCarthy (whoever he is?) did not write some of the resources that I have used in preparing this information?. And there you go, making claims with no links to the source. How do we know that you speak the truth?

I never claimed to be THE authority at Apologetics, I have people like Ravi Zacharias, my mentor, for such things even though he will never claim such as well. In fact, I never claimed else anything at all! I said I was ready to respond to questions about my beliefs, and there you came up with dirty language. Has there been anyone who I didn't answer about my beliefs? The beliefs are mine, even though they are things I learnt in theological school, ruminated over and understood for myself.

Out with all the bad language, it's making you very ugly. Please can you kindly quote where I said that the information is my intellectual property? I have said it countless times, a lot of these things are from the volumes of my lecture notes, in combination with my own understanding and explanation. If McCarthy contributed to them or not, I am yet to find out but indeed, I will, for the reason that you have said this.

If, at all, McCarthy did write some things, I know for SURE that it can never be as explanatory as what I have posted here, because I took a lot of time explaining what I understand. I, indeed, inserted some paragraphs from my lecture notes but that is a given because I already said it!

And for the record, can you please post the links and bibliography to those sources? I will like to investigate them. I AM 100% SURE THEY CAN'T BE WORD FOR WORD WITH MINE, BECAUSE AS I SAID BEFORE, THESE THINGS ARE AS A RESULT OF WHAT I HAVE LEARNT PLUS CAREFUL RIUMINATION, AND MY OWN PERSPECTIVES. That is the beauty of a student.

What exactly is your problem, Krayola? DID YOU CHECK THE MEANING OF MAVEN? Who told you I seek status on Nairaland? What will I do with it? How can I seek status on NL when Im trying to ward the few people that have tried to contact me off my back? Can you see from my profile that I have spent less than 4 days on Nairaland? I have a mission here, and it it to spread understanding. Whatever your own mission is, you can as well face it. Until you get off your high horse and know what a maven does, you will never understand what I am doing on Nairaland.

Hint: a maven is like a conduit pipe, not the source, but the means of transferring information. Check it out on wikipedia before you face your plagiarism assignments.

If you are trying to upset me and turn this thread to a war-zone, you have failed Krayola. Go and plagiarize for your assignments. As for me, I don't work that way.

@Pharoh: Thank you for the same!

@Muhsin: I will be expectant. Cheers!!

tudor came out as female, banom announced he's now a christian, even abuzola became a bit sensible at some point. What i did not see in their posts was statements like:
banom: people have been begging me to become a christian cos am just too brilliant to waste as an atheist.
tudor: someone who really admires my posts for being intelligent and wise said he for marry me if no be say i be man, so i came out as a female.
abuzola: seun personally begged me to stop yabbing nonsense on NL but he really appreciates my being on NL.
classic arrogance!

toba:

Its nice to beg God for forgiveness while still alive&theres time.Jesus emphasized dis in a parable of d prodigal son.What of terrorist dat say Allah Akbar &destroy pple&themselves?

here comes the thread crashers.

maven don't mind these people
you are cool and your conscience is free
let them say

0hsisi:

maven don't mind these people
you are cool and your conscience is free
let them say

how typical - now if a muslim had engaged in this sort of deception, you would have been screaming attqiya

are there no limits to the double standards of christian fanatics ?

oyb:

how typical - now if a muslim had engaged in this sort of deception, you would have been screaming attqiya

are there no limits to the double standards of christian fanatics ?

And how exactly do we know that you folks are not engaging in worse?
because you are too stubborn to confess?
I mean,how do I know you don't have 5 wives  instead of one as you portray
Olabowole and many of you have been caught in lies after lies on this forum not by confession but in watching you at unguarded moments when the truth drops out contradicting earlier claims.
Gosh!
Olabs and abuzola can't even agree on how old aisha was at marriage
who is lying?
aisha,olabowole,abuzola,mohammed or allah himself?
comot jor
Your lies stink to high heavens
big deal he claimed to be female
Now you know he isn't.
He has made that correction himself and that is commendable.

0hsisi:

And how exactly do we know that you folks are not engaging in worse?
because you are too stubborn to confess?
I mean,how do I know you don't have 5 wives  instead of one as you portray
Olabowole and many of you have been caught in lies after lies on this forum not by confession
Your lies stink to high heavens
big deal he claimed to be female
Now you know he isn't.
He has made that correction himself and that is commendable.

just like i said - its sad - u people are such hypocrites - see all the long story you people typically come up with when trying to justify the darker side of your 'loving' god, or this misdeeds of prophets in the bible.

less addled mind have seen this for what it is - an attention LovePeddler. perhaps thats what most of your 'crusade' is about - seeking adulation. 

Olabs and abuzola can't even agree on how old aisha was at marriage
who is lying?
aisha,olabowole,abuzola,mohammed or allah himself?

this is the sort of hypocrisy u are so good at - Christians cannot agree on anything - its all conjecture and inferences (maybe if they had a hadith and not just a book of cobbled parables) .see all the long grammer on solomon . i saw  your ridiculous inferences about monogamy in Christianity - all you could come up with were interpretations - not a single outright command - thous shalt have only one wife  .better keep wallowing in your confusion - small wonder you are so obsessed with the hadith.

when muslims agree - u say they have one mind and cannot think for themselves - when they disagree you say it is because they do not know -

you disturb all of us with noise about your loving god, then you endorse pat robertson and agree that haitis earthquake is punishment

oh well, thats what fanaticism is about - hypocrisy and double standards

who knows what you are like in real life when one thinks about it? perhaps you have a thing for alcohol? because u are also too stubborn to confess?

i have heard stories about some of you holy holy people and your off nl antics 

Oyb shatap!
how do you fault a man who told a lie and later came clean?
do you want him stoned to death since that seems to be your solution for all things.
Please let us hear something.
I'm sure you fornicated at some point (not that I'm giving you a clean bill now)
have you submitted yourself for stoning?
Maven said he lied
yes he lied
It is a sin to lie
but now he's told the truth so what is your problem?
have you never lied?

osisi sharap dia!

if any muslim had done this you would not be singing about the virtues of confession - you'd be screaming these muslims and ataqiya 

go easy on the double standards 

I'm sure you fornicated at some point (not that I'm giving you a clean bill now)
have you submitted yourself for stoning?

see this woman and her constant misinterpretation of the Quran and Hadith

na 100 lashes - after testimony by 4 witnesses
berra open up that the alim disc again

who knows what other misconceptions you are spreading - or should i say you are also lying - thats what you would say, after all 

It is a sin to lie
but now he's told the truth so what is your problem?

i don't know how you people do it - but if u jump into the hadith again, you will find that actions are judged by intention.

your defendant is not looking for absolution - he is looking for attention. like i pointed out sharper minds can see the scam for what it is. your obstinate stance is scary .

oyb:

osisi sharap dia!

if any muslim had done this you would not be singing about the virtues of confession - you'd be screaming these muslims and ataqiya

go easy on the double standards

and hardly any Muslims could do this
It is unislamic to admit a problem
you can't even openly admit the mental derangement in Islamic camps on the appropriate threads.
You excuse them and call it provocation
because you folks would rather die in silence than confess anything to save Islam's face
the only Muslim that came out on this forum some years ago to ask opinions of what to do about impregnating his girlfriend was met with chastisement of why he brought this out publicly
that is Ilsam
always sweeping every evil deed under the carpet until the individual straps on a bomb someday and heads unto a Delta flight

bleh - we talk among ourselves

why would i talk on threads, knowing you are lurking there waiting to jump in and hijack ?

even so - i remember condemning boko harm - keep up with the selective memory

Let me give u an advice oyb because I love you
the first day your child or any close family member tells you he is on a mission to rid the world of infidels, or be a martyr for allah don't call him a pious Muslim
sit his behind down ,look him in the eyes and tell him to snap out of that !diocy

Boko haram had existed in Islamic quarters for decades before we heard about it
why?
they are Islamic
their mission is to wipe out Christians so the Muslims couldn't be bothered
they only became a pain when the Muslims who housed and supported them became receivers of their threats.
then suddenly we heard of boko haram.

the first day your child or any close family member tells you he is on a mission to rid the world of infidels, or be a matyr for allah don't call him a pious Muslim
sit his behind down ,look him in the eyes and tell him to snap out of that !diocy

taken - i will also try to keep my kids out of NL at least till they are much much older - some of us can put up with the hatred of christians - some of us turn into abuzola

abeg make i comot from this thread OP i apologize  for hijacking your thread o!

though i have kept it up there a little while longer - i am seraching fo that post of yours on being a virgin - hilarious in light of your confession - _{er so are yo a virgin, really?}

oyb:

taken - i will also try to keep my kids out of NL at least till they are much much older - some of us can put up with the hatred of christians - some of us turn into abuzola

abeg make i comot from this thread OP i apologize for hijacking your thread o!

though i have kept it up there a little while longer - i am seraching fo that post of yours on being a virgin - hilarious in light of your confession - _{er so are yo a virgin, really?}

how can I be a virgin when I have kids?
are you looking for a virgin?

so you have kids now?
I remember when you got the first one,you won't let that woman rest

as for abuzola, he came in here with an almajiri mindset and thankfully he is cooling down
I for one was scared the boy would kill himself and take others with him
he has threatened the lives of some Muslims on the forum for not agreeing with him so nobody turned him into anything.
He is a typical almajiri

how can I be a virgin when I have kids?
are you looking for a virgin?

i am referring to mavenbox. in a thread he/she claimed to be a virgin. i remember joking about it, as we know nl guys and virgins. he/she took offense. i remeber jesoul had to calm him/her down .

@Everyone: Im really sorry about my mode of presentation, and I apologize sincerely: not for confessing but for my manner of doing it. I have deleted the detestable OP and now I can only beg and hope for your forgiveness. Honestly, I am usually meticulous with details that others tend to find bothersome, and i never intended to draw your attention, but to make things right. Please forgive me. Thanks.

@ilosiwaju and oyb: I never said Im a female virgin. Im male, a virgin, and its really no big deal. The reason I reacted that day was cos I was talking to SeanT21, who is a great friend outside NL, and KNEW my gender. Replying that it wasn't your business, like that on that day was my escape route. If I answered otherwise, I would either lie or reveal my gender.

@ilosiwaju: if you think I didnt beat Deep Sight at chess thrice by myself, pls meet me at chess.com and lets do I of two things. You can leverage your best chess software against me, or you can let us do a bloodless blitz. Or both. Im not even a master, let alone an IM, but I was on the university team, played at tournaments and I think I play confidently. Cheers

oyb:

taken - i will also try to keep my kids out of NL at least till they are much much older - some of us can put up with the hatred of christians - some of us turn into abuzola

abeg make i comot from this thread OP i apologize  for hijacking your thread o!

though i have kept it up there a little while longer - i am seraching fo that post of yours on being a virgin - hilarious in light of your confession - _{er so are yo a virgin, really?}

the idea that it is the "hatred of christians" that produces the likes of Abuzola is nonsense.

Mavenbox, everybody is an attention seeker.  We all do it, I believe it is a basic urge of the human psyche.  Some of us have simply learnt to do it more subtly than others but we all love to be recognised.  One of the worse things you could do to someone psychologically is to send them to coventry, that is to ignore them completely.  Poor people and beggars experience this form of torture whereby people treat them like they are not there.  

Please don't feel like you're doing something bad that only you does and no one else.  Perhaps you need to be a bit more subtle, and less aggressive with it.  A lot of human interaction is a give and take of "I'll listen to you if you'll listen to me".  But no one likes the company of someone who wants to talk all the time and always be the cleverest, loudest person in the pack who is always right.

And even if you are quite often right, you have to be extra careful about how you put it across.  It is not worth winning an argument and losing a friend.  Man is a political animal, learn to be politick.  Allow people to discover your point as if they've discovered it for themselves rather than been told it by you.  Let them even instruct you with the lesson that you've been trying to get across to them from the very start.

The only thing that I think you've done wrong is that you've lacked diplomacy and subtlety.

Ohsisi can lie, when did i say i will slaughter my muslim brother. This xtrians nawa o

Thanks, Pastor AIO. I dont doubt that you are really a pastor by career/occupation, as you once said when Deep Sight asked you on NL; cos, to me, your comments have been the most helpful on this whole thread. God bless you sir, and may you be more further thoroughly enlightened!

Ohsisi, thank you too. May your latter end overtake whatever you ever thought it could.

@mavenbox- u are a criminal who later seek to deceive the people that u realized ur error. What a shame, even that big for nothing woman osisi was encouraging. No wonder we have millions of christian thieves, pros titutes and killers engaging int it mostly igbo, in the name of borning again later or jesus carried away our sins. This is pure deception, u can't deceive God. Come to islam and taste the mint.

Ohsisi, i forgot to post where the bible encourages polygamy.

Here it is:
Deuteronomy 21:15
Exodus 21:10

mysterybox,

Why the need for the declaration at all. If you're so concerned with your anonymity and privacy why not leave your gender at large?

My friend, Peroxide, I was no longer comfortable in the growing box of lies, and I was forcing cool friends who knew my gender to post awkwardly. Most important, NOT stating my gender may have been Christianly, but stating (f) was just wrong, so my spirit kept chiding me! Best regards.

Please I give the Mods permission to delete the thread, but at their own wishes. Thanks.

Mavenb0x:

My friend, Peroxide, I was no longer comfortable in the growing box of lies, and I was forcing cool friends who knew my gender to post awkwardly. Most important, NOT stating my gender may have been Christianly, but stating (f) was just wrong, so my spirit kept chiding me! Best regards.

Please I give the Mods permission to delete the thread, but at their own wishes. Thanks.

Now that's something I can hang my hat on.

THE AMAKA:

all this because he came out and said his real gender?
gosh. *rolls eyes*

I wonder !
look at abuzola that has threatened people with juju and beheadings here severally
he is still in our midst and unrepentant.
and someone confesses a sin and they want to behead him
mavenbox,I say don't mind them

Abu Zola:

@mavenbox- u are a criminal who later seek to deceive the people that u realized your error. What a shame, even that big for nothing woman osisi was encouraging. No wonder we have millions of christian thieves, pros titutes and killers engaging int it mostly igbo, in the name of borning again later or jesus carried away our sins. This is pure deception, u can't deceive God. [size=16pt]Come to islam and strap a bomb[/size].

thats more like it
allahu wakban!
I hope it detonates in your underwear,shattering your wetin call  like abumutallab's

0hsisi:

I wonder !
look at abuzola that has threatened people with juju and beheadings here severally
he is still in our midst and unrepentant.
and someone confesses a sin and they want to behead him
mavenbox,I say don't mind them

this is the exact reason why i never come to this section.
i have NEVER since joining NL clicked on the religion section button (maybe once)
people here are crazy!!!!
this thread was my first religion thread.lol.
these people are really crazy over here, i just stay away.

I don't think we are as crazy as you people arguing with satellite pictures on the politics sections, Ah ah, cool down for us now. You dey talk like say you never see real craze before.

THE AMAKA:


this is the exact reason why i never come to this section.
i have NEVER since joining NL clicked on the religion section button (maybe once)
people here are crazy!!!!
this thread was my first religion thread.lol.
these people are really crazy over here, i just stay away.

hahaha. . . Yeah. . . The sexuality section is a lot more sane with people asking if u can get pregnant from a.n.al penatration, or wanting to know how to make their privates bigger. Hehehe. You Berra come hia to meet salvation