Grace001:



Bro i have a question for you, It is something i'm curious about since you're a member of the Living Faith Church i'm going to ask you. My question is are there any among the members of the Living faith Church richer or at the same wealth level of Papa. I meant are there any record of members who own private jet and have multiple universities just like papa? Since you guys pay your tithes and other convenant vows regularly.

. Don't derail the purpose of the thread. Come to Living Faith Church and see and hear for yourself. Don't come to nairaland to spew balderdash and ask stupid questions.

Ride on Pastor.

tourphland:
Bad market for money making pastors
But I'm still bothered about how people give pastors their money for this reason, or prolly cause I'm Muslim is why I'm thinking this way

why not occupy your thoughts with reasons why Muslims bomb people.

Please beware ooo that guy Advertising data sales. He is bigger scammer please stay clear from his data sale company called smart data connect. Thank you

CoCoLav:
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.

You have a point, but let's look at it from the New Covenant. When I read Rom 8: 32, it blows my mind. If God gave you Jesus, is there anything that God can't give to you ?
The only thing we can give to God is to present our bodies as living sacrifice. Your money or material possession is secondary. Or why do you think pastors insist we give sacrificially to them. Who takes the money ? Is it God or these pastors ?
I'm not against giving sacrificially but the problem is that it has been abused. I will tell you my personal experience. There was a time I was looking for a job. I prayed, fasted and sow seeds.
There was this MOG that asked us all to pledge some money to support his ministry. The man was sincere. I gave my best. After prayers, someone asked for my CV which I gave. After that, i didn't hear from him again.
The present job I have, I didn't need to sow any seed. It came just like that. In fact, some years back, an MOG said I should sow a seed of 90k to get my breakthrough ?

does hard work really bring wealth
owo o ni iran
if u sow into a genuine pastor and he accept it you will be blessed

missionmex:
why not occupy your thoughts with reasons why Muslims bomb people.

I'm Muslim and i don't bomb anyone, so
There are Muslims in south west here, even in south south
Or ull tell me d bakassi boys are muslims too
Use ur brain when u type pls

tourphland:

I'm Muslim and i don't bomb anyone, so
There are Muslims in south west here, even in south south
Or ull tell me d bakassi boys are muslims too
Use ur brain when u type pls

you are the one who need to use the brain. You think because you are a Muslim then you are above gullibility.

He is definately saying the truth.. Gone are the days manner falls from heaven... No hard work no success....

Florblu:
This man has never fail me. He is one of the few men of God that I respect. The first time I was under his ministration,Mehn!it was thought provoking and it never left me.

Let no one be deceived, for your hardwork to turnout success you need God favour, now, the question is this how do one attracts this favour of God, first you ve to give your life to Christ, and by investing your energy , time and resources to promote God's work.
But one of the challenges by doing all these, is that, He blessings comes that His own pace not yours time, you require patience and endure in faith in awaiting

SHALOM!

ONLY FOOLS FOLLOW PASTORS.

. PSALM 78:40-42.

40. How oft did they provoke Him in the wilderness,
and grieve him in the desert!
41. Yea, they turned back
and tempted God,
and limited the Holy One of Israel.
42. They remembered not His Hand,
nor the Day when He delivered them
from the Enemy.

oaroloye:
Only Stupid Christians desire an Earthly King!

. DEUTERONOMY 17:14-20.

14. When thou art
come unto the land
which The LORD thy God
giveth thee,
and shalt possess it,
and shalt dwell therein,
and shalt say,

"I WILL SET A KING OVER ME,
LIKE AS ALL THE NATIONS
THAT ARE ABOUT ME;"

15. Thou shalt in any wise
set him king over thee,
whom The LORD thy God
shall choose:
one from among thy Brethren
shalt thou set king over thee:
thou mayest not set
a stranger over thee,
which is not thy brother.
16. But he shall not
multiply horses to himself,
nor cause the people
to return to Egypt,
to the end
that he should multiply horses:
forasmuch as The LORD
hath said unto you,

"YE SHALL HENCEFORTH
RETURN NO MORE
THAT WAY."

17. Neither shall he
multiply wives to himself,
that his heart turn not away:
neither shall he
greatly multiply to himself
silver and gold.
18. And it shall be,
when he sitteth
upon the Throne of his Kingdom,
that he shall write him
a copy of This Law
in a Book out of that
which is before the Priests
the Levites:
19. And it shall be with him,
and he shall read therein
all the days of his life:
that he may learn
to Fear The LORD his God,
to keep all The Words
of This Law
and These Statutes,
to do Them:
20. That his heart
be not lifted up
above his Brethren,
and that he turn not aside
from The Commandment,
to the right hand,
or to the left:
to the End
that he may
prolong his days
in his kingdom,
he, and his children,
in the midst of Israel.

. DEUTERONOMY 17:14-20.

36. The LORD shall bring thee,
and thy king
which thou shalt set over thee,
unto a nation
which neither thou
nor thy fathers have known;
and there shalt thou
serve other gods,
wood and stone.
37. And thou shalt become
an astonishment,
a Proverb,
and a byword,
among all nations
whither The LORD
shall lead thee.

. 1^st SAMUEL 8:1-22.

AND it came to pass,
when Samuel was old,
that he made his sons
judges over Israel.
2. Now the name
of his firstborn was Joel;
and the name
of his second, Abiah:
they were judges in Beersheba.
3. And his sons
walked not in his ways,
but turned aside after lucre,
and took bribes,
and perverted Judgment.

4. Then all the Elders of Israel
gathered themselves together,
and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5. And said unto him,

"Behold, thou art old,
and thy sons
walk not in thy Ways:
now make us a king
to judge us
like all the nations."

6. But the thing displeased Samuel,
when they said,

"GIVE US A KING
TO JUDGE US."

And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
7. And The LORD Said unto Samuel,

"Hearken unto the Voice of the people
in all that they say unto thee
for they have not rejected thee,
but they have rejected Me,
that I should not reign over them.
8. "According to all the Works
which they have done
since the day that I brought them up
out of Egypt even unto this day,
wherewith they have forsaken Me,
and served other gods,
so do they also unto thee.
9. "Now therefore hearken unto their Voice:
howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them,
and shew them the manner of the king
that shall reign over them."

10. And Samuel told
all The Words of The LORD unto the people
that asked of him a king.
11. And he said,

"This will be the manner of the king
that shall reign over you:
He will take your sons,
and appoint them for himself,
for his chariots,
and to be his horsemen;
and some shall run before his Chariots.
12. "And he will appoint him
captains over thousands,
and captains over fifties;
and will set them to Ear his Ground,
and to reap his Harvest,
and to make his Instruments of War,
and Instruments of his Chariots.
13. "And he will take your daughters
to be confectionaries,
and to be cooks,
and to be bakers.
14. "And he will take your fields,
and your vineyards,
and your oliveyards,
even the best of them,
and give them to his servants.
15. "And he will take the tenth of your seed,
and of your vineyards,
and give to his officers,
and to his servants.
16. "And he will take your menservants,
and your maidservants,
and your goodliest young men,
and your asses,
and put them to his work.
17. "He will take the tenth of your sheep:
and ye shall be his servants.
18. "And ye shall cry out in that day
because of your king
which ye shall have chosen you;
and The LORD will not Hear you
in that day."

19. Nevertheless the people refused
to obey the voice of Samuel;
and they said,

"Nay; but we will
have a king over us;
20. "That we also may be
like all the nations;
and that our king
may judge us,
and go out before us,
and fight our battles."

21. And Samuel heard
all the Words of the people,
and he rehearsed them
in the ears of The LORD.
22. And The LORD Said to Samuel,

"Hearken unto their Voice,
and make them a king."

And Samuel said
unto the men of Israel,

"Go ye every man unto his city."

THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL HAD BEEN GETTING ALONG FINE WITHOUT A KING- THEN THEY GOT FULL OF THEMSELVES, AND DECIDED THAT THEY KNEW BETTER THAN THEIR PROPHET, AND BETTER THAN THEIR GOD.

. JOHN 14:1-27.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
there are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
3. "And if I go and prepare
a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself; that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not
whither thou goest;
and how can
we know The Way?"

6. Jesus saith unto him,

"I am The Way,
The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh
unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known
my Father also:
and from henceforth
ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus saith unto him,

"Have I been so
long time with you,
and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me
hath seen the Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me?
The Words that I
speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but The Father
that dwelleth in me,
He doeth the Works.
11. "Believe me
that I am in The Father, and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO
UNTO MY FATHER.'

13. "And whatsoever
ye shall ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father
may be Glorified
in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask any thing
in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may
abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World
cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that day
ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself
to him."
22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered
and said unto him,
"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father
will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode
with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in my Name,
He shall teach you
all things,
and bring all things
to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said
unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it
be afraid."

AS SOON AS A CHRISTIAN CHOOSES TO FOLLOW A "PASTOR," THEY HAVE FAILED ALREADY!

There is NO SUCH THING as a "TRUE PASTOR," here, and a "FALSE PASTOR" there.

ALL ARE FALSE.

oaroloye:
Only Stupid Christians desire an Earthly King!

. MARK 10:17-23.

17. And when he was gone forth into the way,
there came one running,
and kneeled to him, and asked him,
"Good Master, what shall I do
that I may inherit Eternal Life?

18. And Jesus said unto him,

"Why callest thou me good?
there is none good but One,
that is, God.
19. "Thou knowest The Commandments,

'DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT KILL,
DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,
DEFRAUD NOT, HONOUR THY FATHER AND MOTHER.' “

20. And he answered and said unto him,

"Master, all these have I observed
from my youth."

21. Then Jesus beholding him loved him,
and said unto him,

"One thing thou lackest:
go thy way,
sell whatsoever thou hast,
and give to the poor,
and thou shalt have Treasure in Heaven:
and come,
take up the cross,
and follow me."

22. And he was sad at that saying,
and went away grieved:
for he had great possessions.
23. And Jesus looked round about,
and saith unto his Disciples,

"How hardly shall they that have riches
enter into The Kingdom of God!"

24. And the Disciples
were astonished at his words.
But Jesus answereth again,
and saith unto them,

"Children, how hard is it
for them that trust in riches
to enter into The Kingdom of God!
25. "It is easier for a camel
to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man
to enter into The Kingdom of God."

26. And they were astonished out of measure,
saying among themselves,

"Who then can be saved?"
27. And Jesus looking upon them saith,

"With men it is impossible,
but not with God:
for with God
all things are possible."

28. Then Peter began to say unto him,

"Lo, we have left all,
and have followed thee."

29. And Jesus answered and said,
"Verily I say unto you,

'THERE IS NO MAN THAT HATH LEFT HOUSE,
OR BRETHREN, OR SISTERS,
OR FATHER, OR MOTHER,
OR WIFE, OR CHILDREN,
OR LANDS,
FOR MY SAKE,
AND THE GOSPEL'S,
30. 'BUT HE SHALL RECEIVE
AN HUNDREDFOLD NOW IN THIS TIME,
HOUSES, AND BRETHREN,
AND SISTERS, AND MOTHERS,
AND CHILDREN,
AND LANDS,
WITH PERSECUTIONS;
AND IN THE WORLD TO COME
ETERNAL LIFE.'

31. "But many that are first shall be last;
and the last first."

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he Said also
unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same
was accused unto him
that he had wasted
his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT
THAT I HEAR THIS
OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG;
TO BEG
I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF
THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors
unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES
OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES
OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than
the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES
FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO
EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is faithful
in that which is least
is faithful also in much:
and he that is unjust
in the least
is unjust also in much.
11. "If therefore ye
have not been faithful
in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been faithful in that
which is another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No servant can serve
two masters:
for either he will
hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God
and mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were covetous,
heard all these things:
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before men;
but God knoweth your hearts:
for that which is
highly esteemed
among men is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

. LUKE 22:24-27.

24. And there was also
a strife among them,
which of them should be
accounted the greatest.
25. And he said unto them,

"The kings of the Gentiles
exercise lordship over them;
and they that
exercise authority upon them
are called benefactors.
26. "But ye shall not be so:
but he that is greatest among you,
let him be as the younger;
and he that is chief,
as he that doth serve.
27. "For whether is greater,
he that sitteth at meat,
or he that serveth?
Is not he that sitteth at meat?
But I am among you
as he that serveth."

PASTORS SET THEMSELVES UP AS KINGS AND LORDS OVER THE CHURCH.

They claim that GOD SENT THEM.

They are ALL LYING.

oaroloye:


.   PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth dissembleth
with his lips,
and layeth up deceit
within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not:
for (there are)
seven Abominations in his heart.
26. (Whose) hatred is
covered by Deceit,
his Wickedness shall be shewed
before the (whole) Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A lying tongue hateth
(those that are) afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth
worketh Ruin.

.   MATTHEW 22:2-14.

2. "The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a certain king,
which made a marriage for his son,
3. "And sent forth his servants to call them
that were bidden to the wedding:
and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants,
saying,

'TELL THEM WHICH ARE BIDDEN,

"BEHOLD, I HAVE PREPARED MY DINNER:
MY OXEN AND MY FATLINGS ARE KILLED,
AND ALL THINGS ARE READY:
COME UNTO THE MARRIAGE." '

5. "But they made light of it,
and went their ways,
one to his farm,
another to his merchandise:
6. "And the remnant took his servants,
and entreated them spitefully,
and slew them.

.    EXODUS 23:1-9.

8. "And thou shalt take no Gift:
for the gift blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the words
of the Righteous."

THE PASTORS GIVE THE LAITY REAL OR IMAGINARY GIFTS THAT WEAK BELIEVERS ACCEPT AS CAUSE TO ABANDON THE ONE MASTER OF THE CHURCH: THE LORD YAHSHUA.

They value their fake authority more than the welfare of their Brethren.

Even when Brethren DIE FROM FOLLOWING THEIR WICKED TEACHINGS, they do NOT repent, but CONTINUE LYING.

SHALOM!

oaroloye:


. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his house upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded upon a rock.
26 . "And every one that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

THE OBEDIENCE OF THE TEACHINGS OF LORD YAHSHUA STABILIZE THE MIND, SO THAT IT CAN SUSTAIN ANY LOAD OR ATTACK.

HYPOCRITES have to WORRY about things affecting them, because they HAVE NO SOLID FOUNDATION.

oaroloye:

. SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12.

Life is basically a Static.

Definition: a Life Static has no mass,
no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.

2. The Static is capable of Considerations,
Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects, Form,
and Time are the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static,
and are perceived solely because
the Static considers that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of postulated particles
in Space.
6. Objects consist of grouped particles
and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate
that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is
the change of position of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe
is the Creation of an Effect.

11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN
CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE
ARE FOUR-FOLD.

(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence,
and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation
and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the Consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.

This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition through the use of force.
It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.

12. The Primary Condition of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies, or Objects must not occupy the same Space.
When this condition is violated [Perfect Duplicate]
the Apparency of any Universe or any part thereof is nulled.

oaroloye:


. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

THERE ARE FOUR DISTINCT SPIRITUAL ENERGY LEVELS, WHICH ONE ONE IS IN DETERMINES THE LEVEL OF ONE'S ABILITY TO PERCEIVE.

. REVELATION 22:11.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still."

THEREFORE, WHEN FOUR PEOPLE OBSERVE THE SAME DATUM, THEY WOULD COME UP WITH FOUR DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS, IF THEY WERE IN EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SPIRITUAL ENERGY CATEGORIES.

. DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard
with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed
which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard,
be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow
with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment
of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.

BIBLE BELIEVERS OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES CANNOT ALL LEARN AND GROW TOGETHER.

Anyone who has been to School knows that you don't put the whole school in the same classroom, taught by the same teacher, and expect progress. But that is exactly what Churches do.

.     MATTHEW 13:47-52.

47. "Again, The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a net,
that was cast into the Sea,
and gathered of every kind:
48. "Which, when it was full,
they drew to shore,
and sat down,
and gathered the Good into Vessels,
but cast the Bad away.
49. "So shall it be
at the End of the World:
The Angels shall come forth,
and sever the Wicked from among the just,
50. "And shall cast them into the Furnace of Fire:
there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

51. Jesus saith unto them,

"Have ye understood all these things?"

They say unto him,

"Yea, Lord."

52. Then said he unto them,

"Therefore every scribe
which is instructed unto The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a man that is an householder,
which bringeth forth out of his treasure
things new and old."

IN ORDER TO SORT TRUTH AND POWER FROM ERROR AND WEAKNESS, A STABLE FOUNDATION IS NECESSARY.

All things are judged in relation to that Foundation.

For TRUE CHRISTIANS, that is THE TEACHINGS OF THE LORD YAHSHUA.

For FALSE Christians, that can be ANYTHING EXCEPT the Teachings of the Lord.

THE LAW OF MOSES, THE TORAH, is the STABLE FOUNDATION of the OLD TESTAMENT.

THE PROPHETS are NOT a STABLE FOUNDATION.

The Law of God by Moses is THE BASIS of EVALUATION of SIN/RIGHTEOUSNESS.

No Prophet has the Right to MODIFY that: not even Lord YAHSHUA.

[color=silver.[/color] SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS. L. Ron Hubbard.

53. A Stable Datum is necessary to the alignment of Data.
54. A Tolerance of Confusion and an Agreed-Upon Stable Datum
on which to align the data in a Confusion are at once necessary
for a sane reaction on the Eight Dynamics.

This defines Sanity.

56. Theta brings order to chaos.

Corollary: Chaos brings disorder to Theta.

57. Order manifests when Communication, Control,
and Havingness are available to Theta.

Definition: Communication: the interchange of ideas across space.

Control: Positive Postulating, which is Intention, and the Execution thereof.

Havingness: That which permits the experience of mass and pressure.

58. Intelligence and Judgement are measured
by the ability to evaluate Relative Importances.

Corollary: The Ability to evaluate Importances and Unimportances
is the Highest Faculty of Logic.

Corollary: Identification is a monotone assignment of Importance.

Corollary: Identification is the inability to evaluate Differences in Time, Location, Form, Composition or Importance.

VARIOUS EVIL RUMOURS ARE PROMULGATED AGAINST L. RON HUBBARD, THE FOUNDER OF SCIENTOLOGY, AND HIS ASSOCIATES.

Your Level of Intelligence is rated by whether or not you judge these rumours and allegations relevant to the Teachings of Scientology.

If the Teachings of SCIENTOLOGY are UNASSAILABLE LOGIC, that would account for why the PEOPLE bearing them are attacked instead. That is called AD HOMINEM (Against-the-man). It is COVERT PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS9olPA2BK0

. DEUTERONOMY 27:24.

24. Cursed be he that
Smiteth his Neighbour secretly.
And all the people shall say,
"Amen."

Would YOU stand for someone making ALLEGATIONS against YOU, but who did not tender ANY EVIDENCE, nor reveal their own IDENTITY?

Apparently, many people do not care, if it is happening to someone they don't care about.

If their Enemy's OX or ASS is going astray, or lying under its load, they feel no obligation to help.

LATER ON, THEY FIND THEY NEED SOMETHING FROM GOD.

The times when they STOOD AGAINST A STRANGER become IMPORTANT, then.

THIS IS WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT DIVINE PROSPERITY WILL WORK FOR YOU!

morereb10:


For the first time in my life, I have seen a pastor that is logical in thinking and speaking the gospel truth. The senior pastor of Power City International, Uyo, Akwa Ibom State, Abel Damina, has told Christians that giving money to churches for any purpose does not guarantee wealth from heaven.

In his words:

Christians who give money and other valuables to churches and men of God and in turn expect to become rich were only living in fantasy because, “God does not multiply your money.” The cleric also called out pastors who exchange money for God’s blessing, describing them as fraud.

I HAVE WARNED THAT THERE ARE UNDERCOVER OPERATIVES WHOSE JOB IT IS TO SABOTAGE PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY.

https://www.nairaland.com/3935589/extreme-jesuit-oath

https://www.nairaland.com/3937715/hidden-kingdom-colonialism-lives-anglican

THAT MESSAGE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WICKEDNESS- BECAUSE WHAT THEY TEACH IS BLASPHEMY!

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF THERE arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying,

"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM."

3. Thou shalt not hearken
unto the words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD thy God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to Death;
because he hath spoken
to turn (you) away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt,
and redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee
out of The Way which
The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.
So shalt thou put the Evil away
from the midst of thee.

ABEL DAMINABLE- OR WHATEVER HE CALLS HIS NAME- ILLUMINATIS LIKE TO THINK THEY ARE CLEVER, "HIDING-IN-PLAIN-SIGHT!" Has LIED about GOD. He has LIED about TITHING. He has LIED about PASTORS. He has LIED about CHURCHES.

He as said the truth:
'You give because you are blessed. You don't give to be bless." God's Grace is FREE.

SHALOM!

DanielGb:
He as said the truth:
'You give because you are blessed. You don't give to be bless." God's Grace is FREE.

WHO TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS "GRACE?"

Was it not a man WHO NEEDED IT MORE THAN ANYBODY?

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought
a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things
contrary to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the saints
did I shut up in prison,
having received authority
from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft
in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them
even unto strange cities."

HOW CAN A CRIMINAL REWRITE THE LAW TO EXONERATE HIMSELF- AND YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IT IS A FRAUD?

oaroloye:


. DIANETICS LOGICS 14-24.

14. Factors introduced into a Problem or Solution
which do not derive from Natural Law,
but only Authoritarian Command
aberrate that Problem or Solution.

15. The introduction of an Arbitrary
into a Problem or Solution
invites the further
Introduction of Arbitraries
into Problems and Solutions.

16. An Abstract Postulate must be compared
to the Universe to which it applies
and brought into the Category of Things
which can be Sensed, Measured or Experienced
in that Universe before such Postulate
can be considered workable.

17. Those fields which most depend upon
Authoritative Opinion for their Data
least contain known Natural Law.

18. A Postulate is as Valuable as it is Workable.

19. The workability of a Postulate
is established by the degree to which it explains
existing phenomena Already-Known,
by the degree that it predicts New Phenomena
which when looked for will be found to Exist,
and by the degree that it does not require
that phenomena which do not exist in fact
be Called-into-Existence for its explanation.

L. RON Hubbard has explained here HOW FALSE TEACHING WORKS.

The False Teacher INVENTS AN IMAGINARY CONCEPT, and gets people to BELIEVE THAT IT IS REAL.

It IS Real- but only in "IMAGINATION."

Therefore, since it only exists in IMAGINATION, no one is qualified to DEVELOP it, except THE INVENTOR.

Everyone has to come to THEM to MANAGE that FALSE BELIEF.

That how PAUL did it.

That Is how BILL GATES did it- became the World's richest businessman, based on a LIE- that WINDOWS is a GOOD Computer Interface. (Tell that to people who have lost money to HACKERS!)

GRACE ABSOLVES SINNERS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS!

. EXODUS 22:1-6.

"If a man shall steal an ox,
or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it;
he shall restore five oxen for an ox,
and four sheep for a sheep.
"If a thief be found breaking up,
and be smitten that he die,
there shall no blood be shed for him.
3. "If the Sun be risen upon him,
there shall be blood shed for him;
for he should make full restitution;
if he have nothing,
then he shall be sold for his theft.
4. "If the theft be certainly
found in his hand alive,
whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep;
he shall restore double.
5. "If a man shall cause
a field or vineyard to be eaten,
and shall put in his beast,
and shall feed
in another man's field;
of the best of his own field,
and of the best of his own vineyard,
shall he make restitution.
6. "If fire break out,
and catch in thorns,
so that the stacks of corn,
or the standing corn,
or the field,
be consumed therewith;
he that kindled the fire
shall surely make restitution."

IF YOU (SAY,) STOLE A CAR, BUT REPENTED, THE RIGHTEOUS ACTION IS NOT TO RETURN THE CAR- IT IS TO RETURN TWO CARS!

If you DON'T want to do that, WHERE WAS THE "REPENTANCE?"

.     LUKE 19:1-10.

AND Jesus entered and passed through Jericho.
2. And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus,
which was the chief among the publicans,
and he was rich.
3. And he sought to see Jesus who he was;
and could not for the press,
because he was little of stature.
4. And he ran before,
and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him:
for he was to pass that way.
5. And when Jesus came to the place,
he looked up,
and saw him,
and said unto him,

"Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down;
for to day I must abide at thy house."

6. And he made haste,
and came down,
and received him joyfully.
7. And when they saw it,
they all murmured,
saying,

"THAT HE WAS GONE TO BE GUEST
WITH A MAN THAT IS A SINNER."

8. And Zacchaeus stood,
and said unto the Lord;

"Behold, Lord, the half of my goods
I give to the poor;
and if I have taken any thing
from any man by false accusation,
I restore him fourfold."

9. And Jesus said unto him,

"This day is Salvation come to this house,
forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
10. "For the Son of Man is come
to seek and to save that which was lost."

SHALOM!

morereb10:



For the first time in my life, I have seen a pastor that is logical in thinking and speaking the gospel truth. The senior pastor of Power City International, Uyo, Akwa Ibom State, Abel Damina, has told Christians that giving money to churches for any purpose does not guarantee wealth from heaven.

Well- either HE is LYING, or else the LORD YAHSHUA lied!

oaroloye:


THIS WAS A VIOLATION OF THE FOLLOWING COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHINGS OF THE LORD:

. MATTHEW 6:1-4.

"TAKE heed that ye do not
your alms before men,
to be seen of them:
otherwise ye have no Reward
of your Father Which is in Heaven.
2. "Therefore when thou doest thine alms,
do not sound a trumpet before thee,
as the Hypocrites do
in the synagogues and in the streets,
that they may have glory of men.
Verily I say unto you,

'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

3. "But when thou doest alms,
let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4. "That thine alms may be in secret:
and thy Father
Which Seeth in Secret Himself
shall Reward thee openly."

Example 2: THEY CHEATED THE EARLY CHURCH OF THEIR HEAVENLY TREASURES:

. MARK 10:17-23.

17. And when he was gone forth into the way,
there came one running,
and kneeled to him, and asked him,
"Good Master, what shall I do
that I may inherit Eternal Life?

18. And Jesus said unto him,

"Why callest thou me good?
there is none good but One,
that is, God.
19. "Thou knowest The Commandments,

'DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT KILL,
DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,
DEFRAUD NOT, HONOUR THY FATHER AND MOTHER.' “

20. And he answered and said unto him,

"Master, all these have I observed
from my youth."

21. Then Jesus beholding him loved him,
and said unto him,

"One thing thou lackest:
go thy way,
sell whatsoever thou hast,
and give to the poor,
and thou shalt have Treasure in Heaven:
and come,
take up the cross,
and follow me."

22. And he was sad at that saying,
and went away grieved:
for he had great possessions.
23. And Jesus looked round about,
and saith unto his Disciples,

"How hardly shall they that have riches
enter into The Kingdom of God!"

24. And the Disciples
were astonished at his words.
But Jesus answereth again,
and saith unto them,

"Children, how hard is it
for them that trust in riches
to enter into The Kingdom of God!
25. "It is easier for a camel
to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man
to enter into The Kingdom of God."

26. And they were astonished out of measure,
saying among themselves,

"Who then can be saved?"
27. And Jesus looking upon them saith,

"With men it is impossible,
but not with God:
for with God
all things are possible."

28. Then Peter began to say unto him,

"Lo, we have left all,
and have followed thee."

29. And Jesus answered and said,
"Verily I say unto you,

'THERE IS NO MAN THAT HATH LEFT HOUSE,
OR BRETHREN, OR SISTERS,
OR FATHER, OR MOTHER,
OR WIFE, OR CHILDREN,
OR LANDS,
FOR MY SAKE,
AND THE GOSPEL'S,
30. 'BUT HE SHALL RECEIVE
AN HUNDREDFOLD NOW IN THIS TIME,
HOUSES, AND BRETHREN,
AND SISTERS, AND MOTHERS,
AND CHILDREN,
AND LANDS,
WITH PERSECUTIONS;
AND IN THE WORLD TO COME
ETERNAL LIFE.'

31. "But many that are first shall be last;
and the last first."

In his words:

WOT? No Word of GOD?

Christians who give money and other valuables to churches and men of God and in turn expect to become rich were only living in fantasy because, “God does not multiply your money.” The cleric also called out pastors who exchange money for God’s blessing, describing them as fraud.

Asking people to pay money for God’s blessings sounds like buying goods in a supermarket. “What multiplies your money is work,” in a post he shared on Facebook at the weekend. “Giving in the church does not bring additional money to you. What brings additional money to you is work.

“You don’t pray and fast to get money. What produces money is work. It’s called industry. “He that does not work should not eat. You don’t faith work; you work (the) work. “Why do we give in church? We give because we are blessed? We don’t give to be blessed. It is part of the goodness of God that kept you healthy.

PHYSICAL WORK [NOT-IS-NESS] IS THE LEAST OF FOUR METHODS TO GET RESULTS.

It is appropriate to the UNJUST to use.

.. GENESIS 26:12.

12 Then Isaac sowed in that land,
and received in the same year
an hundredfold:
and The LORD Blessed him.

The bulk of "FOOL-GOSPEL" CHRISTIAN CHURCH MEMBERS would be the FILTHY.

These EAGERLY BELIEVE- but FAIL to achieve FRUITS.

They are able to use HARMONY and PATIENCE to achieve some Objective Goals, but under PROLONGED EFFORT, and PAIN, they BREAK, and thus FAIL. IS-NESS is their LIMIT.

Relatively rare are the RIGHTEOUS: they can Handle the Physical Universe by TRANSFORMING existing Creation into whatever MEST they want. [ALTER-IS-NESS.]

. JOHN 2:1-10.

AND the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee;
and the mother of Jesus was there:
2. And both Jesus was called,
and his Disciples, to the marriage.
3. And when they wanted wine,
the mother of Jesus saith unto him,

"They have no wine."

4. Jesus saith unto her,

"Woman, what have I to do with thee?
Mine hour is not yet come."

5. His mother saith unto the servants,

"Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it."

6. And there were set there six waterpots of stone,
after the manner of the purifying of the Jews,
containing two or three firkins apiece.
7. Jesus saith unto them,

"Fill the waterpots with water."

And they filled them up to the brim.
8. And he saith unto them,

"Draw out now,
and bear unto the governor of the feast."

And they bare it.
9. When the ruler of the feast had tasted
the water that was made wine,
and knew not whence it was:
[but the servants which drew the water knew;
the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10. And saith unto him,

"Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine;
and when men have well drunk,
then that which is worse:
but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

Rarest of all are the HOLY: they can CREATE anything they want by SPIRITUAL POWER, from "NOTHING." [AS-IS-NESS.]

.. 1^st KINGS 17:8-16.

8. And The Word of The LORD
came unto him,
Saying,

9. "Arise, get thee to Zarephath,
which belongeth to Zidon,
and dwell there:
behold, I have Commanded
a widow woman there
to sustain thee."

10. So he arose and went to Zarephath.
And when he came to the gate of the city,
behold, the widow woman was there
gathering of sticks:
and he called to her,
and said,

"Fetch me,
I pray thee,
a little water in a vessel,
that I may drink."

11. And as she was going
to fetch it,
he called to her,
and said,

"Bring me,
I pray thee,
a morsel of bread
in thine hand."

12. And she said,

"As the Lord thy God liveth,
I have not a cake,
but an handful of meal in a barrel,
and a little oil in a cruse:
and, behold,
I am gathering two sticks,
that I may go in and dress it
for me and my son,
that we may eat it,
and die."

13. And Elijah said unto her,

"Fear not;
go and do as thou hast said:
but make me thereof
a little cake first,
and bring it unto me,
and after make for thee
and for thy son.
14. "For thus Saith
The LORD God of Israel,

'THE BARREL OF OIL
SHALL NOT WASTE,
NEITHER SHALL
THE CRUSE OF OIL FAIL,
UNTIL THE DAY
THAT THE LORD SENDETH RAIN
UPON THE EARTH.' "

15. And she went and did
according to the Saying of Elijah:
and she,
and he,
and her house,
did eat many days.
16. And the barrel of meal
wasted not,
neither did the cruse of oil fail,
according to The Word of The LORD,
which He spake by Elijah.

Hardworking does not doubles money,it makes you even poorer.The divine blessing of God doubles your money,you can only key into this blessing by seed sowing.Sowing of seed here means that you acknowledges God as your creator and helperby sowing into his works as you are lead.Giving money to pastors,buying church instruments,paying of tithes and offerings,sweeping/cleaning the church,singing for God,winning of souls,etc

SHALOM!

coputa:
Hardworking does not doubles money,it makes you even poorer.

That is hardly true.

Hard Work makes profits.

The divine blessing of God doubles your money,

Incorrect.

If that were ALL God could do, WE'D DIE.

Do you have SCRIPTURE for that?

It is VERY BAD to Speak for God without SCRIPTURAL BACKING!

you can only key into this blessing by seed sowing.Sowing of seed here means that you acknowledges God as your creator and helperby sowing into his works as you are lead.Giving money to pastors,buying church instruments,paying of tithes and offerings,sweeping/cleaning the church,singing for God,winning of souls,etc

9jvirgin:
My church is the only Church on earth that offering baskets or plates are not passed around. Tithes and offerings are given voluntarily and they are paid ONLINE USING DEBIT/ CREDIT CARDS or via SHORT SMS CODE. All payments are anonymous and it does not matter what you give because nobody knows.

GOD BLESS HEARTLAND CHURCH.

scam church.

The Pastor is talking as if the act of giving is a sin. Is like he is too obsessed....

Its good to give though, i don't see anything bad in it. But giving should be done voluntarily and cheerfully and not grudgingly and compulsorily.

Another area the pastor is not addressing well is the fact that when you give there will always be a return. The return may not necessarily be monetary and instant, the return may be abstract, like safety, good health, marital bliss, breakthroughs etc.

Besides, the scripture assured us that there is blessing attached to the act of giving......"give and it shall be given to you"....."it is more blessed to give than to receive" and so on......

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WHO TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS "GRACE?"

Was it not a man WHO NEEDED IT MORE THAN ANYBODY?

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought
a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things
contrary to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the saints
did I shut up in prison,
having received authority
from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft
in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them
even unto strange cities."

HOW CAN A CRIMINAL REWRITE THE LAW TO EXONERATE HIMSELF- AND YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IT IS A FRAUD?



L. RON Hubbard has explained here HOW FALSE TEACHING WORKS.

The False Teacher INVENTS AN IMAGINARY CONCEPT, and gets people to BELIEVE THAT IT IS REAL.

It IS Real- but only in "IMAGINATION."

Therefore, since it only exists in IMAGINATION, no one is qualified to DEVELOP it, except THE INVENTOR.

Everyone has to come to THEM to MANAGE that FALSE BELIEF.

That how PAUL did it.

That Is how BILL GATES did it- became the World's richest businessman, based on a LIE- that WINDOWS is a GOOD Computer Interface. (Tell that to people who have lost money to HACKERS!)

GRACE ABSOLVES SINNERS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS!

. EXODUS 22:1-6.

"If a man shall steal an ox,
or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it;
he shall restore five oxen for an ox,
and four sheep for a sheep.
"If a thief be found breaking up,
and be smitten that he die,
there shall no blood be shed for him.
3. "If the Sun be risen upon him,
there shall be blood shed for him;
for he should make full restitution;
if he have nothing,
then he shall be sold for his theft.
4. "If the theft be certainly
found in his hand alive,
whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep;
he shall restore double.
5. "If a man shall cause
a field or vineyard to be eaten,
and shall put in his beast,
and shall feed
in another man's field;
of the best of his own field,
and of the best of his own vineyard,
shall he make restitution.
6. "If fire break out,
and catch in thorns,
so that the stacks of corn,
or the standing corn,
or the field,
be consumed therewith;
he that kindled the fire
shall surely make restitution."

IF YOU (SAY,) STOLE A CAR, BUT REPENTED, THE RIGHTEOUS ACTION IS NOT TO RETURN THE CAR- IT IS TO RETURN TWO CARS!

If you DON'T want to do that, WHERE WAS THE "REPENTANCE?"

.     LUKE 19:1-10.

AND Jesus entered and passed through Jericho.
2. And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus,
which was the chief among the publicans,
and he was rich.
3. And he sought to see Jesus who he was;
and could not for the press,
because he was little of stature.
4. And he ran before,
and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him:
for he was to pass that way.
5. And when Jesus came to the place,
he looked up,
and saw him,
and said unto him,

"Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down;
for to day I must abide at thy house."

6. And he made haste,
and came down,
and received him joyfully.
7. And when they saw it,
they all murmured,
saying,

"THAT HE WAS GONE TO BE GUEST
WITH A MAN THAT IS A SINNER."

8. And Zacchaeus stood,
and said unto the Lord;

"Behold, Lord, the half of my goods
I give to the poor;
and if I have taken any thing
from any man by false accusation,
I restore him fourfold."

9. And Jesus said unto him,

"This day is Salvation come to this house,
forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
10. "For the Son of Man is come
to seek and to save that which was lost."

I guess you are mad about the word "Grace." Well don't fight it. Stick to your thing.
I only write probably 3 Lines, and you got mad to this extent. Apologies but I just want to tell you, You have succeeded in derailing this topic. I am not your type.

SAVE YOUR HALF BAKED LIES FOR DELUDED PEOPLE LIKE YOU

CoCoLav:
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.

Okies27:
. Don't derail the purpose of the thread. Come to Living Faith Church and see and hear for yourself. Don't come to nairaland to spew balderdash and ask stupid questions.

To you this is a stupid question and balderdash. I know people like you(full baked gullible), I didn't come to living faith church before i knew that your papa is among the richest pastor in the world? But i need to come to living faith church to see if there are member richer or as rich like papa, you're just so gullible, don't just be a SHEEP. You and I know that there is NONE i said it again NONE in the member of Living Faith Church richer or wealthier than your PAPA. You need to give more or all your belongs to PAPA as a seed so you can be bless just as him.

Grace001:


To you this is a stupid question and balderdash. I know people like you(full baked gullible), I didn't come to living faith church before i knew that your papa is among the richest pastor in the world? But i need to come to living faith church to see if there are member richer or as rich like papa, you're just so gullible, don't just be a SHEEP. You and I know that there is NONE i said it again NONE in the member of Living Faith Church richer or wealthier than your PAPA. You need to give more or all your belongs to PAPA as a seed so you can be bless just as him.

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I wonder how others belief become a problem to you lots. If we are gullible it's none of your business. Those who are without how easy it is for them to judge those within.
No one gives a seed to a Pastor to be as rich as a pastor. If you are not a Christian, keep your mouth closed and stop derailing threads.

Grace001:


To you this is a stupid question and balderdash. I know people like you(full baked gullible), I didn't come to living faith church before i knew that your papa is among the richest pastor in the world? But i need to come to living faith church to see if there are member richer or as rich like papa, you're just so gullible, don't just be a SHEEP. You and I know that there is NONE i said it again NONE in the member of Living Faith Church richer or wealthier than your PAPA. You need to give more or all your belongs to PAPA as a seed so you can be bless just as him.

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I wonder how others belief become a problem to you lots. If we are gullible it's none of your business. Those who are without how easy it is for them to judge those within.
No one gives a seed to a Pastor to be as rich as a pastor. If you are not a Christian, keep your mouth closed and stop derailing threads.
I will advice you not to mention people in any Christian post. Is it too hard for you lots to stay out of our own way of life as Christians. If you wanna remain an atheist or what have you, then remain.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WHO TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS "GRACE?"

Was it not a man WHO NEEDED IT MORE THAN ANYBODY?

HOW CAN A CRIMINAL REWRITE THE LAW TO EXONERATE HIMSELF- AND YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IT IS A FRAUD?

L. RON Hubbard has explained here HOW FALSE TEACHING WORKS. The False Teacher INVENTS AN IMAGINARY CONCEPT, and gets people to BELIEVE THAT IT IS REAL. It IS Real- but only in "IMAGINATION." Therefore, since it only exists in IMAGINATION, no one is qualified to DEVELOP it, except THE INVENTOR. Everyone has to come to THEM to MANAGE that FALSE BELIEF. That how PAUL did it.

That Is how BILL GATES did it- became the World's richest businessman, based on a LIE- that WINDOWS is a GOOD Computer Interface. (Tell that to people who have lost money to HACKERS!)

GRACE ABSOLVES SINNERS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS!

IF YOU (SAY,) STOLE A CAR, BUT REPENTED, THE RIGHTEOUS ACTION IS NOT TO RETURN THE CAR- IT IS TO RETURN TWO CARS!

PASTOR Bronchitis Oaroloye (aka Prince Aroloye of Inandre, Nigeria) It is obvious that you will never understand the gospel of grace because your demonic possessed spiritual master, L.Ron Hubbard of your Church of Criminal Scientology teach.
Scientology teach the gospel of DIS-GRACE as revealed by his own beloved son Ron DeWolf. He told how his dad would invite him to learn the art of cracking young girls souls to gain more dark spiritual power from Lucifer.

Young DeWolf relives how he and his dad would have SEX-ORGIES inside the church with 4 to 5 young church girls at a time to gain more dark power from Lucifer. His holy father taught him how to crack the souls of young girls in the church and spray his sperm over the church grounds/ Alter to please Lucifer. This is a DIS-GRACE !! What happens in the life of all those young girls after the church leader L.Ron Hubbard initiated them on the Church of Scientology Alter for Lucifer ?

By the time young DeWolf realized the truth about his father, he was embarrassed and changed his name thereby losing his status as heir to his fathers great wealth and thousands of royalties. What would drive a son to change his name. What would drive a son to expose his dad ?

Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye you ask, "HOW CAN A CRIMINAL REWRITE THE LAW TO EXONERATE HIMSELF- AND YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IT IS A FRAUD? Then you brag like this, "L. RON Hubbard has explained here HOW FALSE TEACHING WORKS."

Your evil prophet of Criminal Scientology certainly writes his own laws. He defrauded Christianity in the same way you are doing now. He succeeded by calling on Lucifer while screwing young church girls on the Alter of The Church Of Scientology and spraying his sperm over the church grounds. Lucifer made that poor man a billionaire. But he and his wife was finally found guilty and sentence to 4yrs
imprisonment. He escaped like a coward and is still on the run. His loving wife went to prison alone like a man.

Okies27:
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I wonder how others belief become a problem to you lots. If we are gullible it's none of your business. Those who are without how easy it is for them to judge those within.
No one gives a seed to a Pastor to be as rich as a pastor. If you are not a Christian, keep your mouth closed and stop derailing threads.
I will advice you not to mention people in any Christian post. Is it too hard for you lots to stay out of our own way of life as Christians. If you wanna remain an atheist or what have you, then remain.

That's where you got it wrong so anyone trying to ask questions or question things is term "atheist " I am a Christian but i do not exalt any man of god more than the almighty God. That's what most of you guys do, you fear your god of man more than God. But like you have said it is your life, continue to live in your full baked gullible state of mind.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

ONLY FOOLS FOLLOW PASTORS.

AS SOON AS A CHRISTIAN CHOOSES TO FOLLOW A "PASTOR," THEY HAVE FAILED ALREADY!

There is NO SUCH THING as a "TRUE PASTOR," here, and a "FALSE PASTOR" there. ALL ARE FALSE.

PASTORS SET THEMSELVES UP AS KINGS AND LORDS OVER THE CHURCH. They claim that GOD SENT THEM.
They are ALL LYING.

Fake pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye, the only reason you hate pastors is because your own Pentecostal PFN pastor rejected you when you failed in your 34yr undercover mission to destroy the mighty SCOAN church using the cruelest propaganda methods since Nazi Germany. It is a terrible shame to see what this totally innocent church and its humble and kind leader TB Joshua had to endure at the hands of these evil church men and women.

Firstly, true pastors take up the same roles in society that the early disciples did. Therefore a true pastor is a vital example of the true nature of Christ. Human can not learn without leadership as our deluded crown prince Aroloye falsely believes (aka pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye. But then, all his beliefs are false, it is based on fictional novels of Nagualism, fictional Dianetics, Criminal Scientology and fictional Celestine Prophecy.

What our fake undercover pastor Bronchitis Aroloye (aka the crown prince of Inandre Nigeria) dont realize is that he was also a pawn of his other masters the prophet of Criminal Scientology and the Pentecostal PFN. His evil gods told Bronchitis to preach that RAPE IS NOT A SIN and also THAT RAPE VICTIMS ARE TO BLAME IF THEY ARE RAPED EVEN IF THEY ARE BABIES.

All this to cover their own sexual sins. For example, L.Ron Hubbard always had violent sex-orgies inside his church with 4 to 5 young church girls while calling on Lucifer for more power. He was also a hateful father, so he would invite his young son to join in the sex-orgies so he could learn to crack the souls of the girls to appease Lucifer.

THE BIBLE IS A TOOL OF OPPRESSION IN HANDS OF AN IGNORANCE FELLOW..THE TRUTH IS THAT WE ARE ONLY BLESS THROUGH CHRIST JESUS

THE BIBLE IS A TOOL OF OPPRESSION IN HANDS OF AN IGNORANT FELLOW..THE TRUTH IS THAT WE ARE ONLY BLESS THROUGH CHRIST JESUS

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



THE OBEDIENCE OF THE TEACHINGS OF LORD YAHSHUA STABILIZE THE MIND, SO THAT IT CAN SUSTAIN ANY LOAD OR ATTACK.

HYPOCRITES have to WORRY about things affecting them, because they HAVE NO SOLID FOUNDATION.

56. Theta brings order to chaos.

Corollary: Chaos brings disorder to Theta.

VARIOUS EVIL RUMOURS ARE PROMULGATED AGAINST L. RON HUBBARD, THE FOUNDER OF SCIENTOLOGY, AND HIS ASSOCIATES.

Your Level of Intelligence is rated by whether or not you judge these rumours and allegations relevant to the Teachings of Scientology

THIS IS WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT DIVINE PROSPERITY WILL WORK FOR YOU!

By Now we know who you are obedient to fake pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye. Mmmm !! Your spiritual master who has SEX-ORGIES with the young girls of his church has taught you about Dianetics the Satanic BIBLE OF CRIMINAL SCIENTOLOGY -THETA.

Can you tell us how THETA brings order to the chaos that L.Ron Hubbard caused in the life of his young son when he invited him to join in the cruel CHAOS of violent sex-orgies inside the Church Of Scientology ?

You also preach from the bible of Criminal Scientology that, "Corollary: Chaos brings disorder to Theta."

Forgive me for pointing out that your Criminal Scientology bible is confusing you pastor Bronchitis. You stated it as a fact that THETA is one that brings order to chaos. Then like a confused drunk you turn to us and say that THETA is useless against CHAOS because chaos brings disorder to THETA. Therefore disorder is THETA's master. Which reveals Criminal Scientology's doctrines of dis-order based on the weakness of THETA.

So to strengthen THETA L. Ron Hubbard would simply have sex-orgies on the Alter of his Scientology church with innocent young church girls while calling for DIVINE PROSPERITY !!

MY CONCERN IS FOR THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF INANRE, NIGERIA if prince Aroloye (aka pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye succeeds to the throne.

GOD HELP THE PEOPLE OF INANDRE, NIGERIA !!

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



That is hardly true. Hard Work makes profits. It is VERY BAD to Speak for God without SCRIPTURAL BACKING!

THE DIVINE BLESSINGS OF GOD MORE THAN TRIPLES MONEY !!

Forgive me for pointing this out to you pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye (aka The crown Prince of Inandre, Nigeria) The point you are trying to make is based on Criminal Scientology that why you came across as a confused drug-addict.

When you say hard work makes profit from examples of the Satanic doctrines of Criminal Scientology's bible, Dianetics your are wanting to demonstrate how the founder of Criminal Scientology was stone broke living in poverty and worked hard at screwing/ sex-orgies with 4 to 5 young church girls on the church Alter shouting out loudly to Lucifer. NOW THAT IS HARD WORK !!

L.Ron Hubbard's son says that his dad encouraged him to join dad in the sex-orgies on the Alter to gain blessings from Lucifer. Well now, thats hard work !!

Therefore, pastor Bronchitis, I respectfully agree that hard work make profit !!

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

ONLY FOOLS FOLLOW PASTORS.

AS SOON AS A CHRISTIAN CHOOSES TO FOLLOW A "PASTOR," THEY HAVE FAILED ALREADY!

THE PASTORS GIVE THE LAITY REAL OR IMAGINARY GIFTS THAT WEAK BELIEVERS ACCEPT AS CAUSE TO ABANDON THE ONE MASTER OF THE CHURCH: THE LORD YAHSHUA. They value their fake authority more than the welfare of their Brethren.

Calm down fake pastor Aroloye (aka pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye) you must realize that when you agreed with your Pentecostal PFN masters to destroy the mighty SCOAN church Nigeria and to destroy all evidence of the HOLY SPIRIT wherever it may appear. You must take full responsibility for your vile actions against the mighty Holy Spirit of God.

You have sold your soul to Lucifer pastor Bronchitis, now you hate your Pentecostal PFN masters for deceiving you.

The innocent man that still is your target had to suffer much at your hands over the past 34yrs. But pastor Bronchitis, remember he has always forgiven everyone of his cowardly and brutal enemies. For every hate from you guys, this kind humble man gave double mercy and forgiveness. Many of his enemies came begging and he gave more than love to restore their lives.

People must look at you with confusion when they realize that you would rather worship a convicted criminal and vile prophet of criminal Scientology who has sex-orgies on his church Alter while calling his young son to join daddy in cracking the souls of the young church girls while shouting out for Lucifer's power. You would rather worship a man L.Ron Hubbard that is still on the run from the law even in is grave than worship a worthy spirit called Jesus.

Remember every knee will bow even if it is royalty !!