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Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 11:55am On Jan 04, 2018 |
SIINXU:Whatever you believe in sweets, I ain't gonna convince or engage you in a debate. But I can forward you to someone who would. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 11:56am On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: Lola, don't even go there. I will take down my DP and decimate Islam in such that it will shake the very foundations of your beliefs. Please let's not go there. Ejim chukwu ayor gi. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobodys(f): 11:56am On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee:Ramadan is not a holiday??.....am so lost in these religious things....so what's that holiday you folks celebrate.... within a period of 2 days??... |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by traeces(m): 11:56am On Jan 04, 2018 |
Realitycheck007: Three quick issues; First, your argument seeks to incriminate God for his divinity which gave God the right to institute order and decide right and wrong. If you a mere creature can decide for yourself right and wrong, why shouldn't God? It is only divine order that sin's wages is death and the same way that all your protest against your teacher did not change anything when he awarded you zero marks for saying 1+0=10 is the same way your protest against God won't amount to anything in the judgement if today you choose death instead of life. Secondly, God did not send his son to die in order to save you from what he will do to you because of sin. He sent Jesus to die in order to save you from what the devil already did to you when he made your father Adam fall in the garden. He is only a consequence of the fall so it is strange that the devil is not anywhere in your argument. Thirdly, When you imagine that the sun which is only an average-sized star can 'contain' one million 'earths' and that there are many billions of stars in our galaxy (the milky way galaxy) alone and that their are billions of galaxies containing billions upon billions of stars in the known physical universe alone, you will realize that the creator is not your mate and you are never ever going to be able to fully understand him. What he has revealed however is enough to take us to heaven. 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 11:57am On Jan 04, 2018 |
Blackhawk03:most people never understand that the God u and I do see is d people around you |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 11:57am On Jan 04, 2018 |
zainmaxwell:Nope. Instead, it is believed that the arch-angel Jubril breathed into Mary and she conceived. zainmaxwell:Read your question again and see if it makes sense. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 11:59am On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: Engaging extremist Muslims isn't exactly how I planned on spending my off-day, mami. I'll pass on that offer, I'd rather just frolick with you |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobodys(f): 11:59am On Jan 04, 2018 |
zainmaxwell:someone answered already.... anyways this was the q.......why should non believers of Christ celebrate Christmas... |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
SIINXU:Sweetheart, you can't. You should only say that to those who know nothing of their belief. I don't like engaging in religious arguments so yes, let's not go there. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:02pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee:am just asking if jubrin breathed in Mary is it not S same ask holy Holy Spirit from God was not jubrin sent by God or did he do it in his own accord |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:03pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Nobodys:There is an holiday after the month of Ramadan ends and there is a holiday that is used to celebrate the prevention of Abraham's son being killed as sacrifice to God. 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 12:04pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: Arch-angel Jubril? Sounds quite awkward.. I think I prefer "Gabriel". Sounds better and it also has the "el" factor. Noticed how all Arch Angel names end with "El"? There's a reason behind that. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:06pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
zainmaxwell:Does that mean we should also worship Jubril because he breathed into Mary? Lol. It's not any holy spirit, it's just Gabriel's breath. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:06pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Nobodys:first and foremost Christmas is just like a public holiday cos as at then it was used to celebrate the sun god then after d coming of Constantin he adopted it as a day to celebrate the birth of Christ same way christians believe Christ died on d cross of which it is not so Christmas is actually a public holiday |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Blackhawk03(f): 12:07pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
zainmaxwell: Really? Isn't this a beautiful twist to everything? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 12:07pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: So Jesus was Gabriel's breath? Chai..
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Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
SIINXU:Gabriel is an English name and it's not recognized in Islam, I don't care what it ends with, Lol. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by RoyalBlak007: 12:08pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
I'm not so religious So I don't. ... |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:09pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee:ma'am jubrin breathed doesn't have life in it since when is Gabriel God soon u go say na Michael create Adam |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
SIINXU:Yes, he was conceived from his breath, with God's command of course. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by RoyalBlak007: 12:11pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
missyqween You're highly needed here |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 12:12pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: Wrong.
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Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:12pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Blackhawk03:just imagine when I treat u right and u treat someone else right and d list goes on and on when I see u been hungry and tattered and I care for you then you did d same to other people ain't we our own god |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
SIINXU:Okay, an Hebrew name but it's still not recognized. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 12:13pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: Well for her sake, I hope he brushed and flossed |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:14pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee:the same thing I said with d Holy Spirit according to god's command |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Realitycheck007(m): 12:20pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
HeyWOOOO, my head is so full now, Una don kukuma divert the question finish..chai, |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 12:22pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: If you don't recognize it then why affiliate them to Bible characters? Isn't that another way to plagiarise? Well, I never did think Islam could stand on its own if it doesn't dick-ride Christianity and gain some street-cred by associating itself to it. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by traeces(m): 12:26pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Mariinee: I would probably have shared your belief if not for prophet Muhammad's uncertainty about the eternal destiny of both his own spirit and that of his followers according to S 46:9 "...NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU..." So basically, Islam is based upon only his claims and/or inspirations. That I boldly declare is not enough both in law or everyday life as anybody can claim anything. The validity of any claim should be based on evidence not sentiments. Compare that with Christianity where God began a relationship with the first man Adam before the fall. He found men to yet walk with in Enoch, Job, Noah, Abraham down till Jesus and beyond after the fall. All these men lived in different generations yet bore an agreeable message upon which Christianity is built. And finally when Jesus stepped into the scene; It was in fulfilment of several prophecies 1000s of years before he was born. He had a forerunner in John the baptist who bore testimony about him. The heaven's declared to the hearing of several people that "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, hear him". And finally when he died, he rose again the 3rd day and is seated at the right hand of God the father. This is a historical fact which you assent to every time you write dates say 4th January, 2018. You are simply saying it has been 2018 years since Jesus resurrected. This is why I believe in Jesus and not any other. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by mediocre(m): 12:28pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
Suprnov3r:You'd rather believe sky daddy did some abracadabra shït and you appeared ....from dust |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by traeces(m): 12:28pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
zainmaxwell: There is no sincere question about God or man that the bible does not answer. You may not have found it but you can be sure it is there. Check my answer above |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by zainmaxwell(m): 12:30pm On Jan 04, 2018 |
traeces:can't start arguing with you cos u would soon start saying my soul is damned |
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