1shortblackboy:
it is a copyright infringement and against d law. Besides money was used to publish it and they need the money from d sales to continue publishing

Shut up there my friend, the law is used to benefit the church as when it please,moreso is continue regurgitating same old script a must?

I am awaiting their reason... e better not be because of profit maximization sha

masterP042:
The effort we Nigerians put into religious activities, if we had directed it into science, technology, agriculture, discipline etc. This country would have been a better place.
We don't need devotionals we need research writings

science and technology have became means of doing unrighteous things.

ponziponzi:
... or not

So this pastor thinks that Nigerians will remain mugu forever.

ponziponzi:
... or not

This is an internal memo. How did it get here?
Wolves among sheep.

MsNgo40:
Although I am not a member of this particular church, I think you guys are not understanding the greater point of the situation.
Regardless of what the reason(s) may or may not be, the church institution actually is a business (in a sense). Anytime, finances are involved, legalities come into play.
They have a right to allow or forbid how their material is shared...point blank.
If certain individuals have wrong motives for making this decision, then that is for God to deal with.
It neither negates nor excuses what those who have been sharing it (with good motives) NOW have an obligation to do.
They have said to stop sharing it without their permission...so that's what folks have to do.
Perhaps folks can now venture out in faith, create their own devotional and allow free access to everyone...however they want to do it.
Yes...Christ wants all to have His Word in their hands...but to print Bibles is not free.
Money is involved be it through donations or however funds are generated.
Same thing for an operating institution.
Remember folks, this is a devotional...an encouraging and beautifully written devotional....but it is..NOT the Bible....
Perhaps, folks need to go back to the original blueprint.

Bros for every devotional I've see on whatsapp there is proper reference to the source and credit is always given to the author and the church.
Only the content for the current day is broadcast

Beside the posters don't sell or collect money in exchange for the broadcast.

Is the open heavens money driven or impact driven?

And who did the church obtain permission from before quoting all those Bible verses used in the message.

Inasmuch as I understand that profit must be made, sharing the word should not be prohibited.

I know RCCG church whatsapp groups that have defied this order and still shares the devotional daily. You cannot police cyberspace.

Enough said already.

onwards:


You are very wrong.

The material sent over whatsapp broadcasts are usually properly referenced. Credit is given to the source i.e the Open Heavens Devotional.
Also, only a section is sent at a time not the entire material.

This rules out any illegality you have inferred. Read up "Fair Use Exemption in Copyright Law"

Please, don't misinform the public just to score cheap points.

Happy sunday.

The operative word, if you had read well, is “SANE country.”

Of course one can not describe Nigeria as a sane country, if one is honest. A country that Fulani herdsmen terrorists butchered civilians for almost 48 hours and the President and citizens looked the other way, is no sane country.

In a sane country, you can’t even photocopy clips of textbooks as we do in Nigeria, without “accepting” some legal terms. In a sane country, publishing when you do not have the rights, is called piracy.

Have a great Sunday.

QuintusLentulus:
Shut up there, is it being sold online? What is your problem self? The almighty bible self is being distributed free self, talk more of a mere devoutional, please stop this nonesense.

The operative word, if you had read well, is “SANE country.”

Of course one can not describe Nigeria as a sane country, if one is honest. A country that Fulani herdsmen terrorists butchered civilians for almost 48 hours and the President and citizens looked the other way, is no sane country.

In a sane country, you can’t even photocopy clips of textbooks as we do in Nigeria, without “accepting” some legal terms. In a sane country, publishing when you do not have the rights, is called piracy.

Have a great Sunday.

TobiDirax:


Leaving sentiment aside, I feel the memo should have been more focused on those publishing the Open Heaven Devotional through print media for sale. The OHD is intellectual property of the Redeemed Christian church hence no one should be making profit there on without permission of the church. However, sharing through whatsapp and other social media platform is my turn off. I have benefited immensely through sharing the word on whatsapp and I am certain so many can also say the same, the church should be more focused on the number of people the word is getting to. What do we have to say about people publishing the word of God for free. God is not a liar He will sure established His word and the ministry will continue irrespective of money coming or not from the sale of this devotionals. My take though

The operative word, if you had read well, is “SANE country.” I clearly stated, “sane country.”

Of course one can not describe Nigeria as a sane country, if one is honest. A country that Fulani herdsmen terrorists butchered civilians for almost 48 hours and the President and citizens looked the other way, is no sane country.

In a sane country, you can’t even photocopy clips of textbooks as we do in Nigeria, without “accepting” some legal terms. In a sane country, publishing when you do not have the rights, is called piracy.

You don’t need to rationalise with this long epistle of yours; the Law is the Law, in a sane country.

Have a great Sunday.

The church should allow free sharing of devotionals so far it's not for monetary gains.
This clarifies and reflects the spirit behind the church's efforts of publishing such devotional- to spread the gospel or otherwise.
When the disciples saw a man preaching, praying and healing people in Yashua's name they try to stop him and informed yahshua about it, yahshua answers leave him alone, he is helping to spread the gospel, he is not an enemy.
MARK 9:38-40
38“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”

39“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us. 

MsNgo40:
Although I am not a member of this particular church, I think you guys are not understanding the greater point of the situation.
Regardless of what the reason(s) may or may not be, the church institution actually is a business (in a sense). Anytime, finances are involved, legalities come into play.
They have a right to allow or forbid how their material is shared...point blank.
If certain individuals have wrong motives for making this decision, then that is for God to deal with.
It neither negates nor excuses what those who have been sharing it (with good motives) NOW have an obligation to do.
They have said to stop sharing it without their permission...so that's what folks have to do.
Perhaps folks can now venture out in faith, create their own devotional and allow free access to everyone...however they want to do it.
Yes...Christ wants all to have His Word in their hands...but to print Bibles is not free.
Money is involved be it through donations or however funds are generated.
Same thing for an operating institution.
Remember folks, this is a devotional...an encouraging and beautifully written devotional....but it is..NOT the Bible....
Perhaps, folks need to go back to the original blueprint.

The church should allow free sharing of devotionals so far it's not for monetary gains. 
This clarifies and reflects the spirit behind the church's efforts of publishing such devotional- to spread the gospel or otherwise for monetary gains
When the disciples saw a man preaching, praying and healing people in Yashua's name they try to stop him and informed yahshua about it, yahshua answers leave him alone, he is helping to spread the gospel, he is not an enemy. 
MARK 9:38-40
38“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”

39“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us.

madridsta007:


The operative word, if you had read well, is “SANE country.”

Of course one can not describe Nigeria as a sane country, if one is honest. A country that Fulani herdsmen terrorists butchered civilians for almost 48 hours and the President and citizens looked the other way, is no sane country.

In a sane country, you can’t even photocopy clips of textbooks as we do in Nigeria, without “accepting” some legal terms. In a sane country, publishing when you do not have the rights, is called piracy.

Have a great Sunday.

You are STILL very wrong.

All these unrelated stories are a poor attempt to 'strawman' the fact.

In a SANE country, taking and posting sections of the Open Heavens Devotional on whatsapp is perfectly and uncontestably LEGAL.

Please read up the 'Fair Use policy' and stop talking out of tune.

As for the rest of the sentiment-laden portions of your post, they are inconsequential to this discourse.

onwards:

You are STILL very wrong.

All these unrelated stories are a poor attempt to 'strawman' the fact.

In a SANE country, taking and posting sections of the Open Heavens Devotional on whatsapp is perfectly and uncontestably LEGAL.

Please read up the 'Fair Use policy' and stop talking out of tune.

As for the rest of the sentiment-laden portions of your post, they are inconsequential to this discourse.

Sentiment-laden. Lol. I clearly stated, “sane country”. Did you see that? Seems the use of English is lost on you— and I can appreciate this. English isn’t the black man’s natural forte. Suddenly, “copyright infringement”, “copyright laws” and piracy means nothing. Suddenly, “unauthorised publishing” is right. Because this is clearly your point. Well, in an insane society, nothing really means anything, really. You are right.

Have a great day. I have no more to say to you.

madridsta007:



Sentiment-laden. Lol. Seems the use of English is lost on you— and I can appreciate this. English isn’t the black man’s natural forte. Suddenly, “copyright infringement”, “copyright laws” and piracy means nothing. Because this is clearly your point. Well, in an insane society, nothing really means anything, really. You are right.

Have a great day. I have no more to say to you.

You are the one who is parading ignorance gallantly.

Do you have cognition problems?

If no, then please take out time to READ and hopefully understand copyright laws before you embarrass yourself irredeemably in public someday.

SANE countries developed the fair use exemption policy

SANE countries have established what constitutes copyright infringement

SANE countries have provided free resources for you to educate yourself thoroughly.

But you have chosen to ignore all of that and let the INSANE (in your words) country influence your zeal for ignorant conclusions.

I will not spend another text trying to educate you beyond this retort.
After all, your flawed opinion cannot supercede a grounded section of the law. Let the Church sue and we'll see if they don't have their case thrown out into the wild.

Nuezha:


This is an internal memo. How did it get here?
Wolves among sheep.

Are you in a cult?

The RCCG has totally lost it with this Memo.
It is a bad dent to the entire church.
The question are:
1. Did the GO approve this Memo which will give the church bad publicity?
2. When did Sharing the word of God become illegality to RCCG? Isn't the church in existence to propagate the word? Isnt sharing the devotional helping in this cause?
3. Isn't monies paid as tithes, offerings and first fruits meant to augment or take care of church cost?
What then do they do with the tithes and offerings?
4. Is the RCCG paying royalties or making reference for portions lifted from the Bible and used on the devotional?
RCCG is absolutely money conscious by this stance. Members should resist this by not paying tithes if the tithes are not used for their administrative purposes.

ponziponzi:

Are you in a cult?

Don't this in your office, and spot the difference between ethics and morals

Kposkila:

If you say it's called piracy den in those saner clime too, churches pay tax to d govt.

In saner climes, churches do not pay tax to the govt. Infact, every cheque you make to a church is tax free. You can always claim back tax on such monies.

onwards:


You are the one who is parading ignorance gallantly.

Do you have cognition problems?

If no, then please take out time to READ and hopefully understand copyright laws before you embarrass yourself irredeemably in public someday.

SANE countries developed the fair use exemption policy

SANE countries have established what constitutes copyright infringement

SANE countries have provided free resources for you to educate yourself thoroughly.

But you have chosen to ignore all of that and let the INSANE (in your words) country influence your zeal for ignorant conclusions.

I will not spend another text trying to educate you beyond this retort.
After all, your flawed opinion cannot supercede a grounded section of the law. Let the Church sue and we'll see if they don't have their case thrown out into the wild.

Thank God you said, it is a "retort".
I do not respond to retorts.

Have a great rest of your day. Cheers.

Interesting, Sharing of materials containing God’s word is illegal because money no enter church purse.

madridsta007:


Thank God you said, it is a "retort".
I do not respond to retorts.

Have a great rest of your day. Cheers.

Not just retorts, do add logical postulations, common reason and widely acknowledged facts too. As you have shown an astounding skill in evading those too.

Ahn ahn who is pirating their work na? No Kobo must not slip through the cracks. RCCG business venture worldwide must keep growing. Lmao.

I smh my head for Nigerian churches which have perfected the selling of the gospel of Christ which is meant to be free. #FreeTheSheeple

hakeem4:
But your bible is plagiarising other pagan religion story.

Keep your trap quiet!

Very soon, I foresee that Christians in Nigeria would start paying to hear sermons on the pulpit, becos accordingly, u need to hear the Word with "permission" all I see is end time!

onwards:



Not just retorts, do add logical postulations, common reason and widely acknowledged facts too. As you have shown an astounding skill in evading those too.

Funny, this same thing the church is talking about, is the SAME thing voiced by Nollywood, musicians, writers etc. But hey, it’s the church, so let us conveniently forget that. Lol. One of these days, you people should tell us what the church did to you. Then we shall compare the “crimes” to Fulani Herdsmen terrorists or Badoo gang to find out who got a let off. People are funny.

Spending time arguing online isn’t a skill of mine. It can be so tiring. I appreciate though, others may have that skill— and time!

Have a great day. Let me watch Arsenal match, ejor. (I hope you’ll watch the match too? My team played yesterday)

But most of the texts written in the Open Heavens devotional are Bible verses copied from the King James Bible right.
I hope the RCCG had a written permission from the Author of the Bible?

so after publishing with our tithes and offerings, we still buy and cannot share with thoose who could not afford it? Don't they know it is by pirating, unbelievers can be saved?

ponziponzi:
... or not

masterP042:
The effort we Nigerians put into religious activities, if we had directed it into science, technology, agriculture, discipline etc. This country would have been a better place.
We don't need devotionals we need research writings

I couldn't agree more to your submission. China, Dubai, Saudi Arabia are carrying out research to better their countries. Funny enough, None of those countries prays more than Nigeria.

BrutusOj:
Funny world we are. I have had issues with some friends who are fond of sending me broadcast daily, cos I see it as a nuisance, what exactly is interesting about that devotional? I rather read the likes of ODM and Seed of destiny which are brief, concise and easy to assimilate than waste time and energy read that voluminous stuff

I actually prefer Open heavens to ODM. I used ODM before, i skipped alot of things i am being asked to do on the devotional being from an orthodox church. Eg, asking me to speak in tongues.

I find open heavens more interesting because it feels like reading a sermon or an exhortation.

playcharles:
They lack basic knowledge of the law,there is no copy right law on religions publications,music etc. What they forgot is that all the quotes,citations etc are from the bible to which they didn't obtain any copy right. If the redeem church is truly out there to win souls wouldn't it have called for celebration and encouragement for more people to have access to this write up that often times is full of plagiarism. I stand corrected to say the REDEEMED CHURCH IS ON THE WRONG PATH.

Bros not only RCCGooo...my church MFM also have our own devtional book Oo...exactly like open Jean been sold at #1200....
To tell u d fact...they are all rogues and thieves... No apologies

madridsta007:


The operative word, if you had read well, is “SANE country.”

Of course one can not describe Nigeria as a sane country, if one is honest. A country that Fulani herdsmen terrorists butchered civilians for almost 48 hours and the President and citizens looked the other way, is no sane country.

In a sane country, you can’t even photocopy clips of textbooks as we do in Nigeria, without “accepting” some legal te in d sa :-erms. In a sane country, publishing when you do not have the rights, is called piracy.

Have a great Sunday.

U are just saying rubbish.... When did d world of God becomes something u prohibit its spread?....is adeboye and d likes d owner of d Bible passages dey quote Ind said open heaven?...we should stop defending illegality cos u want to prove a point...enough of dis nonesense

onwards:

You are STILL very wrong.

All these unrelated stories are a poor attempt to 'strawman' the fact.

In a SANE country, taking and posting sections of the Open Heavens Devotional on whatsapp is perfectly and uncontestably LEGAL.

Please read up the 'Fair Use policy' and stop talking out of tune.

As for the rest of the sentiment-laden portions of your post, they are inconsequential to this discourse.

Pls leave dis guy alone...we kno their likes...relating Fulani herdsmen attrocfities to banining d spread of d gospel.....Jesus r warned us about dis fraudsters who claim to be of God...its very obvious d love of God is not in dem....


D mr SANE CLIME,religion is one of d reasons dis country has become INSANE