dalaman:


Which God made contact with the ancient Mayan? Can you tell us it's name? The one that made contact with the ancient Indians and Chinese nko? What about the people that made contact with yoit village ancestors 1000 years ago?

Gods are human inventions that is why there are so many different versions of them each created by men for many different reasons.

Infact humans started by worshipping agents of nature like the sun, the moon , mountains, rivers etc. Some even worshipped humans, may God men abound throughout history. The God idea kept evolving till hums decided to invent invisible beings. Even the invisible beings are of different types. While some invented the poly invisible beings others invented the mono invisible beings. Your claim remains false.

Can you show me the first man or group of people who "invented" God?

I need evidence for your claim and not your usual nonsense you always type. Can you show them to me now?

Butterflyleo:


Can you show me the first man or group of people who "invented" God?

I need evidence for your claim and not your usual nonsense you always type. Can you show them to me now?

Dalaman go answer this? Make I bend

winner01:
If mysterious activity defies nature right now in your presence, I'm sure you'll say " well science has not found this out but it will", is that not atheism of the gaps?
I've heard several atheists use this line and I'll open a thread on it soon.

Science might have no explanation for a mysterious activity, but that's no reason to fill the gap with just about anything!

winner01:
No, it is you people who are suggesting that the human brain, much more complex than the latest Honda series, evolved into being. There is no evidence to support it.

No one said anything about evolution, yet. Stop filling the gaps with projections!

winner01:
Causes create effects. That's an accurate statement bro.

That wasn't my question!

winner01:
Dalaman go answer this? Make I bend

He is free to try

For an atheist who believes so much in evidence it shouldn't be too hard to present a verifiable evidence to me regarding my demand.

budaatum:

Science might have no explanation for a mysterious activity, but that's no reason to fill the gap with just about anything!

I'll give examples of atheists using atheism of the gaps, in my new thread.

Butterflyleo:




If you know how useless this scripture made your above comment to look you would have thought twice before posting it.

And regarding your comment about me harming my fellow humans because of my beliefs despite my lifestyle as a believer in Jesus being against that shows how childishly you yet reason.

I suggest you beam your crusading atheistic words to people like the Mao Zedong the notorious atheist leader who singlehandedly murdered/killed a record number of about 80million people who stood against his beliefs as an atheist and the over 200million people who died at the hands of other atheist leaders because they also stood against their atheistic ideologies.

You can stop mentioning me now.

How does mao zedong concern me? is this how you argue? when all else fails call mao zedong`s name?
Did you know that hitler loved dogs? does that mean that all dog lovers are nazis?
Your friend loser0/100 winner 01 said i should be a freethinker, yet you and he quote bible verses and curse people instead of bringing convincing evidence for your murderer of a god. A god who create a whole 13.7 billion light year universe with one hundred billion galaxies each galaxy having billions of stars yet decided that the best course of action when dealing with adam and eve was to curse them and their innocent descendants. A god who wants all people to worship him, yet appears to only a group of nomads in the desert, orders them to kill anyone in the area instead of creating a new one or even appearing to the chinese who had record keeping then and would have recorded such a fantastic event.
In essence you and winner loser are the real children over here, with your poor reasoning and hypocrisy.

budaatum:

No one said anything about evolution, yet. Stop filling the gaps with projections!

Humans, the most sophisticated machine we know and have been trying so hard to make a replica, can you give an evidential history of humans?

winner01:
lol. Simple question. What evidential facts do you have for the existence of humans?

Your dishonesty is hurting you. Where is your evidence that Yahweh created humans?

RuthlessLeader:

How does mao zedong concern me? is this how you argue? when all else fails call mao zedong`s name?
Did you know that hitler loved dogs? does that mean that all dog lovers are nazis?
Your friend loser0/100 winner 01 said i should be a freethinker, yet you and he quote bible verses and curse people instead of bringing convincing evidence for your murderer of a god. A god who create a whole 13.7 billion light year universe with one hundred billion galaxies each galaxy having billions of stars yet decided that the best course of action when dealing with adam and eve was to curse them and their innocent descendants. A god who wants all people to worship him, yet appears to only a group of nomads in the desert, orders them to kill anyone in the area instead of creating a new one or even appearing to the chinese who had record keeping then and would have recorded such a fantastic event.
In essence you and winner loser are the real children over here, with your poor reasoning and hypocrisy.

Are you suggesting that "God is evil", therefore God does not exist?

Butterflyleo:


Words create your reality whether you believe it or not. Reality is made up of your language being projected and those words create reality.

True. I'm working on a million pounds in my bank account. I just utter the words and, voila.

RuthlessLeader:

How does mao zedong concern me? is this how you argue? when all else fails call mao zedong`s name?
Did you know that hitler loved dogs? does that mean that all dog lovers are nazis?
Your friend loser0/100 winner 01 said i should be a freethinker, yet you and he quote bible verses and curse people instead of bringing convincing evidence for your murderer of a god. A god who create a whole 13.7 billion light year universe with one hundred billion galaxies each galaxy having billions of stars yet decided that the best course of action when dealing with adam and eve was to curse them and their innocent descendants. A god who wants all people to worship him, yet appears to only a group of nomads in the desert, orders them to kill anyone in the area instead of creating a new one or even appearing to the chinese who had record keeping then and would have recorded such a fantastic event.
In essence you and winner loser are the real children over here, with your poor reasoning and hypocrisy.

They believe they are special because they were indoctrinated and made to accept ancient Jewish mythology and fiction.

dalaman:


Your dishonesty is hurting you. Where is your evidence that Yahweh created humans?

Guy, I never mentioned Yahweh on this thread, neither did I say that God created humans.

I'm simply asking, what is the evidential history of humans?

Is this too difficult to understand?

budaatum:

True. I'm working on a million pounds in my bank account. I just utter the words and, voila.

. Perfect response. He doesn't know how idiotic he sounds.

dalaman:


They believe they are special because they were indoctrinated and made to accept ancient Jewish mythology and fiction.

Relax and breathe.

What is the evidential history for humans?

dalaman:


. Perfect response. He doesn't know how idiotic he sounds.

Mere words creates a living for comedians, you have not disproved this.

RuthlessLeader:

How does mao zedong concern me? is this how you argue? when all else fails call mao zedong`s name?
Did you know that hitler loved dogs? does that mean that all dog lovers are nazis?
Your friend loser0/100 winner 01 said i should be a freethinker, yet you and he quote bible verses and curse people instead of bringing convincing evidence for your murderer of a god. A god who create a whole 13.7 billion light year universe with one hundred billion galaxies each galaxy having billions of stars yet decided that the best course of action when dealing with adam and eve was to curse them and their innocent descendants. A god who wants all people to worship him, yet appears to only a group of nomads in the desert, orders them to kill anyone in the area instead of creating a new one or even appearing to the chinese who had record keeping then and would have recorded such a fantastic event.
In essence you and winner loser are the real children over here, with your poor reasoning and hypocrisy.

Thank you. Have you finished ranting? Oya google has asked that I give you your lollipop so your rants can stop disturbing their servers.

budaatum:

True. I'm working on a million pounds in my bank account. I just utter the words and, voila.

Lmao! I wonder why Christians are still putting their nose on the grindstone just like the heathens when all they have to do is speak money into their hands and foods into their stomachs, maybe speak babies into existence rather than go through the laborious sex and 9 moths discomfort punctuated by excruciating labour or speak healthy teeth into their mouth instead of going to the dentist or speak Leah Sheribu out of captivity

winner01:
Are you suggesting that "God is evil", therefore God does not exist?

I`m saying that the god you believe in does not exist and even if he does, I would never want to worship and praise his barbaric character. I know you can`t justify anything i wrote up there so you are doing this. This just means that on some level you know your god is morally inferior to you. why don`t you just give him up? You won`t die, there is nothing to be afraid of, no devil will come for you in the night and your life will not get worse than it already is.

winner01:
Guy, I never mentioned Yahweh on this thread, neither did I say that God created humans.

I'm simply asking, what is the evidential history of humans?

Is this too difficult to understand?

Do you believe that Yahweh created humans or not? Are you trying to throw him under the bus?

Butterflyleo:


Thank you. Have you finished ranting? Oya google has asked that I give you your lollipop so your rants can stop disturbing their servers.

Christian: God hates abortion!
Atheist: Didn’t God kill some pregnant women in the Great Flood?
Christian: Well, yes, probably.
Atheist: Doesn’t that constitute abortion?
Christian: No.
Atheist: Why not?
Christian: Because God did it.

dalaman:


Your dishonesty is hurting you. Where is your evidence that Yahweh created humans?

You were asked a question and instead of answering it you dodge it and ask a red herring instead. Na wa o

When confronted with the size and scale of the universe and the myriad forms of evil, disasters, pain, and suffering, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the world described by Christianity does not match the world in which we live.

The cumulative effect of prayer is zero
Prayers have been addressed to the Christian god for almost 2000 years and so, given the promises that Jesus made about answering these prayers, we should be able to see the long-term effects of God’s holy mercy and promises kept. But it’s not there. The following is an excerpt from an essay on:

http://new.exchristian.net/2015/11/were-on-our-own.html

So where is this God? Where is the God of the parking spaces and the greeting cards when 150 human beings are being senselessly butchered in the name of religion? Where is the net result of 2.4 billion prayers? Where is the result of 2,000 years worth of prayer? If this God existed and deigned to answer prayer, this planet would be completely different. But look around. Look for those answers. There are none.

We are on our own, people. There is no God out there. It’s time to finally come to terms with that, as a species. It’s time to stop praying and start taking matters into our own hands. The only ones who can save the humans are the humans. We must be our own salvation…

Everytime I think of Paris I get so f*cking angry. Religion did this. What is ISIS if not religion out of control? Religion has been killing humans ever since humans had religion.

Enough is enough.

So get your head out of your own ass. This ain’t no fuckin’ fairy tale. We are on our own…

The author of this piece is the proverbial boy stating that the emperor is naked, while everyone else is pretending to see his glorious garments. The evidence is irrefutable- 2000 years of prayers should have made a big difference, and the world would be a very different place if Christianity or any other religion was true. The sooner we realize we are on our own, the better chance we will have to make the world a decent place to live.

hopefulLandlord:


Lmao! I wonder why Christians are still putting their nose on the grindstone just like the heathens when all they have to do is speak money into their hands and foods into their stomachs, maybe speak babies into existence rather than go through the laborious sex and 9 moths discomfort punctuated by excruciating labour or speak healthy teeth into their mouth instead of going to the dentist or speak Leah Sheribu out of captivity

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Butterflyleo:


SPIRITUAL evidence does not subscribe to EMPIRICAL science.

So, no evidence is required to believe in things spiritual, right? You can make it up in your head and not need to support it with empirical evidence?

I wonder why you then claim spiritual explains the empirical then.

budaatum:

True. I'm working on a million pounds in my bank account. I just utter the words and, voila.

Ironically in our small capacities as usuals we create out realities with our words (this is fact)

Do you think our level of creative power with words would be the same for a God?

Its like saying a small spark of 3volts electricity which sends a mild tingle on the tongue should be used to equate a 500,000 megawatts of power which would not only fry you but vaporise you too.

I think you have your thoughts twisted in your comment.

Butterflyleo:


You were asked a question and instead of answering it you dodge it and ask a red herring instead. Na wa o

I've asked him like 3 different questions and he ran away from all of them. Why should I take him seriously when he refused to answer my questions repeatedly? Stop being dishonest even though I know you can't.

budaatum:

So, no evidence is required to believe in things spiritual, right? You can make it up in your head and not need to support it with empirical evidence?

I wonder why you then claim spiritual explains the empirical then.

See finishing. . These dolts don't think through before saying things sometimes.

winner01:
Mere words creates a living for comedians, you have not disproved this.

Your dishonesty is now making you mad seriously.

budaatum:

So, no evidence is required to believe in things spiritual, right? You can make it up in your head and not need to support it with empirical evidence?

I wonder why you then claim spiritual explains the empirical then.

The word EVIDENCE speaks about empiricism and this points to science.

The spiritual does not subscribe to scientific empiricism (this is common knowledge to all).

The spiritual is the source of the physical but caused the physical from outside the physical and based on this detachment, the physical cannot quantify it because the physical is restricted to its realm of existence. (This is easy enough) even for you

However, in order to tap into the spiritual and experience it, you need a part of it and that is where the spirit of God comes in to take from God and reveal to us. We have access to evidence you can never have at your level