Amujale:


Really?

Well if you can read, you will find that was a response to a simple question.

But you didnt bother to check and instead jump into conclusion.

Amujale:


Its a hoax, a con, a lie, a complexed fabrication.

Not real.

The current Israelis are a mixture of European tribes that claim to be Jews, they are all descendants of Europe from all around the world.

Its con job, the reason you wont find many black men/women in Isreal.

Because Isreal was created in the 1900(s) to help sell their fake and twisted stories to the world.

forgiveness:


How can Isreal be created in the midst of Arabs just like that?

aribisala0:
I cannot read.

Can we not discuss your Phd thesis and focus on the issue at hand?

aribisala0:


..He met some people on ground in Ife and at the same time there were already people on ground in Ijesha Ekiti Egba etc doing their thing.They are not in anyway related .
Ifa traditional religion had been on ground for centuries before Oduduwa arrived
Yes their are Ifa myths of creation and a person falling from the sky but that person was not Oduduwa thought the story has been corrupted to include him

Amujale:


Here i agree with the spirit of your post. Thank you for you great educative response as always.

100% agree with your view point above.

However, Oduduwa is a unifying figure no doubt, said to have hailed from the East of Ife. That piece of information has always been misconscrued out of proportion to a greater extent.

Yet its safer and more productive to accept the Emperor 's overall mission, UNITY.

Soon as we've achieved unity and reigns supreme and unfettered, then, the intellectual nuance will actually take its course.

aribisala0:


When a so called man of God tells his follower to have sex with him in the name of God it is time to start thinking. To suspend "faith" and use her head
You might as well say it is safer and productive to accept APC's mission
It is safer and productive to accept PDP's mission
It is safer and productive to accept Islam
It is safer and productive to accept Christianity and so on


If I am to UNITE should I be consulted? Somebody would decide it is good for me to Unite with him without seeking my opinion??

With respect you are talking nonsense

I think you better keep you idiotic unity idea TO YOURSELF
People like you are very dangerous indeed

No different from Osama bin laden or Boko Haram

Do you for one moment think Boko Haram believe their overall mission is evil? No THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING THE WORK OF GOD

If there is to be unity let everybody sit and discuss. You do not sit in Oyo and Ife and be talking of one stupid overall mission
It is offensive and patronizing.

I have NOTHING to do with OYO empire s o why should I UNITE with them.

Amujale:


Sometimes, especially in these times, one has to put aside conflicting issues in pursuit for unity.

Unity is hard and elusive. With luck one could stumble upon unity no doubt, however, sometimes one has to earn, search for, maintain, sustain our unity.

And sometimes one is given a unifying figure, perfect. Everyone can easily unify around a common purpose. Yoruba has the Enperor Oduduwa

aribisala0:
Guy please stop quoting me . I really do not have patience for idiotss

Amujale:


You ought to respket yourself now. Stupid response, no sense. When you are faced with a well balanced discussion, you cannot help respect yourself.

So tell me what is your problem?

aribisala0:
There is no discussion just opinion and dogma.
Go and look for pseudo intellectuals like yourself I am not interested. You are an empty rabble rouser

Amujale:


You have nothing sensible to say, come to me when you have something sensible to contribute to the thread.

I am going to ignore you with your inconsequential responses.

aribisala0:


You really are a childish insecure little boy.

I told you last year to stop quoting me You are an empty raucous rabble rouser

It seems you don't know much about world history after the destruction of the world during the days of Noah.

The new world began in Asia, not Africa.

Amujale:


The Noah flood story is a falsity. There are numerous flood stories, i personally know of at least 25 different other ones. Most are only aware of the one the Jews saved for them.

Once those type of historical events are put into the proper context, it becomes clear that they shed further light on the climatic conditions that helped lay down the foundation of the continents that later became poplulated outside of Africa.

For instance, going through all the contents in the various flood stories mentioned above, under No condtion did Africa experience those versions.

I am not going to discuss flood stories exclusive to the African continent here; would instead concentrate on further a field.

Hopoi Myth flood stories.

Comox people – Legend of Queneesh

Anishinaabe - Turtle Island flood myth

Inuit, flood myth 

Nisqually - Myth Flood story

Mesoamerican flood myth.

Urcocari flood myth

Unu Pachakuti -Inca flood myth.

Sumerian - Myth flood stories

Gilgamesh - Myth flood stories

Yu the Great

Nuwa

e.t.c



Eskimo (Orowignarak, Alaska) - "A great inundation, together with an earthquake, swept the land so rapidly that only a few people escaped in their skin canoes to the tops of the highest mountains.

The truth is that apart from during the so called "big bang" and the same point in time; and or leading up to "Creation" real history has never ever made record of any instance whatsover, whereby there"s a globsl corroboration to suggest flood consumed the entire globe.

All of the foreigners and places outside the continent that reported their stories to us, either experienced these AWESOME phenomenon on their own or was contained within their geographical region.

aribisala0:


You can pronounce sha.

You just wake up for ya house,chop eba, mess, begin talk wetin no happen before dem born anybody wey you know.
Come dey talk like say you dey there as guest artiste

Amujale:


I refer to my study with a keen sight-for-detail African history pre-colonisation.

aribisala0:
Eba overdose

Amujale:

Not at all sir, cross check my post.

Is there anything you would refute?

Let me know

aribisala0:


This thread is about Yorubas not a platform for self indulgence

Amujale:


Really?

Well if you can read, you will find that was a response to a simple question.

But you didnt bother to check and instead jump into conclusion.

aribisala0:
I cannot read.

Can we not discuss your Phd thesis and focus on the issue at hand?

Amujale:


Lets not derail the thread with self indulgence.Maybe create a new thread to discuss those issues.

Thank you

Amujale:


I guess you're correct

Amujale:


Here i agree with the spirit of your post.

100% agree with your view point above.

However, Oduduwa is a unifying figure no doubt, said to have hailed from the East of Ife. That piece of information has always been misconscrued out of proportion to a greater extent.

Yet its safer and more productive to accept the Emperor 's overall mission, UNITY.

Soon as we've achieved unity and reigns supreme and unfettered, then, the intellectual nuance will actually take its course.

Amujale:

aribisala0:


When a so called man of God tells his follower to have sex with him in the name of God it is time to start thinking. To suspend "faith" and use her head
You might as well say it is safer and productive to accept APC's mission
It is safer and productive to accept PDP's mission
It is safer and productive to accept Islam
It is safer and productive to accept Christianity and so on


If I am to UNITE should I be consulted? Somebody would decide it is good for me to Unite with him without seeking my opinion??

With respect you are talking nonsense

I think you better keep you idiotic unity idea TO YOURSELF
People like you are very dangerous indeed

No different from Osama bin laden or Boko Haram

Do you for one moment think Boko Haram believe their overall mission is evil? No THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING THE WORK OF GOD

If there is to be unity let everybody sit and discuss. You do not sit in Oyo and Ife and be talking of one stupid overall mission
It is offensive and patronizing.

I have NOTHING to do with OYO empire s o why should I UNITE with them.

Amujale:


Sometimes, especially in these times, one has to put aside conflicting issues in pursuit for unity.

Unity is hard and elusive. With luck one could stumble upon unity no doubt, however, sometimes one has to earn, search for, maintain, sustain our unity.

And sometimes one is given a unifying figure, perfect. Everyone can easily unify around a common purpose. Yoruba has the Emperor Oduduwa.

Amujale:


Are you nuts? You butted into my conversation.
and you better back off!

I know you?

aribisala0:
Guy please stop quoting me . I really do not have patience for idiotss

forgiveness:


How can Isreal be created in the midst of Arabs just like that?

macIB:


2 corrections: Oduduwa was born, bred in Ilorumu quarters in ile-ife. He never migrated from anywhere whatsoevr. All those myth and falsehoods were islamo-christianic attempts at dominating the history of the Ife pple.
Secondly, Sango ruled only in Oyo-ile. The only place he could have lived apart from Oyo was in Nupeland because his mother was from there.
In addition, the "Yorubas" wherever mentioned in history books were solely the "Oyo" pple. The rest of the south western pple of the present day Nigeria bore there native collective tribe names e.g. Ijebu, ijesa, Ife, egba, ekiti, ibolo etc. Thank you

Sanchez01:

This is wrong. 'The Source VS The seat of government'. The crown General in Yorubaland is none other than the Ooni. If I know this as a non-Yoruba then you surely need to question the understanding of your own history.

This was the same thing that plunged the late Sijuwade and Aláàfin into a cold war for years.

Anyways, I'm sure the Aláàfin knows that the seat of origin is much more powerful than the seat of government. The Aláàfin bowed to the present Oonirisa in a function sometimes ago and that in itself speaks volume.

TAO11:


You mean that the Alaafin of Oyo bows to the Ooni only because the Ooni his 40 and he is 90? Okay I have heard you.

In a manner similar to his bowing to the superior authority of the Ooni of Ife, he also bows to the President and his wife because they control more power and authority than he does.

What is too difficult for you to understand in that?



Just Some Quick Questions For You:

1.) Who is the founder of Oyo kingdom according to whatever version of history you read?

2.) Where did this founder of Oyo kingdom hail from?

3.) And who is his father?

wowcatty:
Something must be really be wrong with some of you to believe Alaafin can bow to his inferior. Alaafin can’t bow to anyone, you are only seeing what you wanted to see.

The same way people like you make it seem Oduduwa was the founder of Ile Ife, Oranmiyan was a Oba in Oyo just as he was in Bini, he founded none.

In ancient times, ABORE were seen as pastors of today and mouthpieces of the gods and that’s what gave Oduduwa some sort of relevance he had, he had no crown but his offsprings did have crowns outside Ile Ife.

TAO11:


Oga stop the rant and answer the simple question I asked you!

1.) Who is the founder of Oyo kingdom according to whatever version of history you read?

2.) Where did this founder of Oyo kingdom hail from?

3.) And who is his father?

Also, point out the similarities and the differences between the two images below

Baba Ju Omo Lo

Amujale:


Sometimes, especially in these times, one has to put aside conflicting issues in pursuit for unity.

Unity is hard and elusive. With luck one could stumble upon unity no doubt, however, sometimes one has to earn, search for, maintain, sustain our unity.

And sometimes one is given a unifying figure, perfect. Everyone can easily unify around a common purpose. Yoruba has the Emperor Oduduwa.

wowcatty:
You must be blind or a troll if you don’t see answer to your question here. You can go and pound sand if you don’t understand what I said or answer your own questions if you know the answers to them and then compare.

The first is image is both Alaafin and another man standing, but the second image has Alaafin rising from his seat. Or Ooni descending from a stage or something. And unless you can show different angles, just shut up.

Eni a ba l’aba ni baba.

Baba ju omo lo but as you can see, you don’t really believe that, if you do, you won’t be swapping the father(Alaafin) for son(Ooni).

wowcatty:
Alaafin was the true emperor.