You are trying to use irony to send your message across but it does not make sense at all. For instance:

LibChick:
. I live in a country where any wise man should think 10 times before dealing with a black man. The laws are so much in favor of black men that your life long efforts can be brought to naught 2 seconds after dealing with them.

Which country is that where the laws are so much in favor of black men. Provide examples. If you want I will give you the country where I live and the laws that favor women over men, very terribly. And these laws are exploited by women to this very day.

Again you used my writ about my brother. Tell us the story of your own brother and how being white, gave him an unfair shot to life and made him to be exploited by black men, and in which country. I can tell you the true story of my own brother whose financial empire was brought to naught single-handedly by a woman by exploiting the laws that favors them.

The list goes on.

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pansophist:
Firstly, I commend your stance on feminism. I read all your comments on this page, and you come off as objective as possible, devoid of bias and a true egalitarian, you also did a good job calling buda out on her misandrist drivel, even though all others just ignored. Kudos.

Now to your question



I do not have a problem with women fighting for feminism, I wonder which of my writings gave you such impression, can you quote it, please? Because it is misinterpretations like this makes me refrain from engaging women in discourse concerning feminism that they hold dearly and connected to emotionally. Any criticism is interpreted as hate, misogyny, sexism, toxic masculinity etc.

My problem with feminism (especially third/fourth waves feminism) is that it is redundant, has lost relevance and has become an umbrella for man-haters, who enjoys the privilege of honor not being required from women towards men, and who lobby with politicians, create laws and make life terrible for men. Those who even if they exclaim that feminism also fights for men, they ignore all the injustice men suffer that is as a direct result of feminism. The oppressed now become the oppressor. I have sisters, mothers, partner, and potential daughter biological/adoption, it will be stupid of me to be against treating women equal. From my experience, women are not used to criticism from men, and you know it if you will be honest with yourself, and it is the reason why many get tensed up when being challenged and their beliefs made to go through scrutiny. I can't think of any method of how society calls women to order (except from older women to younger), but society holds men to a high degree of order and honor that women are immune from.

I live in the west, and many laws here are just man hate, plain and simple. Let me know if you want to know some few of them, I will give a dozen. Meanwhile, even under the struggles men pass through, women do not care, and still scream and make it seems like all men are there to get women. These are the subtle implication in libchick arguments so far. I am sure you know that the average man dislikes feminism, and it is because of all these things I mentioned. did you ask yourself why? or do you believe the feminist nonsense that all men are out there to get women? If women can criticize men and create all kind of fancy names for us (manspreading, mansplaining, man breathing, eye rape etc), why are you surprised if we respond back?

misogyny is a lie, what you will do as a man that people will call you misogynistic or toxic for will be perfectly fine if a woman does the exact same thing to a man.
Anybody can go on live TV and say "all women must be respected no matter what, no matter how she is dressed or whatever she does "
Can you imagine what feminists will say if Donald Trump went live and say all men must be respected no matter what he does?

lilbest4:
misogyny is a lie, what you will do as a man that people will call you misogynistic or toxic for will be perfectly fine if a woman does the exact same thing to a man.
Anybody can go on live TV and say "all women must be respected no matter what, no matter how she is dressed or whatever she does "
Can you imagine what feminists will say if Donald Trump went live and say all men must be respected no matter what he does?

I've said it many times, to exhibit honor, respect, and fair treatment towards men is not what you'll get from you're average modern women. Women get away with things men will not.

A woman will slap a man and be genuinely shocked he retaliate because she knows that she can be aggressive and violent and somehow, society will absorb her from that responsibility, but I, as a man will have doubt to retaliate her slap, even if I'm on self-defense. If men treat women the exact say way women treat women, they will never accept it.

Feminism thrives on double standards, everyone can see it except feminist. Further proves they are not fighting for equality, but female superiority

Very good thread: less insults and each side putting out their points as candidly as possible. Wish there is time to participate.

IamPlato:
Are my mamas feminists sisterfire adaibeku rekhina analqueenluci ...

Son where art thou

AnalQueenluci:








Son where art thou

been Hang Out With A Fresh Young Chick while You Were Away.

IamPlato:
been Hang Out With A Fresh Young Chick while You Were Away.

Who is it ?

AnalQueenluci:






Who is it ?

Blackivy29

IamPlato:
Blackivy29

Black wat ?
I was away and u go about cheating hoh ?

AnalQueenluci:









Black wat ?
I was away and u go about cheating hoh ?

I was not cheating... She was just keeping me company .. Ask her

liberalchick:


Apples and Oranges.

You are comparing mental strength with physical strength, we all know the average man is stronger than the average woman. Unless you are saying men are more intelligent than women then your analogy doesn’t work.

Feminist have NEVER compared salaries of men across careers. In your example, feminists would compare the salary of a STEM woman to a STEM man of comparable education, experience and skill. Now why would it make sense to compare the salary of a liberal arts major to a STEM major? Do the men in liberal arts job earn the same as men in STEM jobs?

Please can you post these statistics that show women are increasingly unhappy since feminism started?

So... Hey.

Totally ignore me.
I like it when I see Nairaland With people.
People like you. Lol

pansophist:


If a woman hit me, I will hit her back. If a man hit me, I will hit him back. The arguments that a woman is weak, hence, a man should not hit her no matter the circumstances (in your own words) is nonsense. Only a kid will hit me and I will ignore, but not a woman,
she will get exactly what she dishes out. Its called equal treatment. Otherwise will be benevolent sexism, a softer kind of sexism.

Sorry, not sorry.

Budaatum will frown at this

Michellekabod2:

Budaatum will frown at this

.. So what do you say about that?

Michellekabod2:

Budaatum will frown at this

Why would buda frown at that Michelle?

JONNYSPUTE:
.. So what do you say about that?

She busy being buda's mouth!

Shugavee:
I agree with almost everything except hitting the woman back ,, when we all know men are physically more stronger than women ? It’s totally wrong hitting a man but still wrong hitting a woman no matter the circumstances. Cause a man hitting a woman can get her killed or hospitalized. So NO to that

Maybe that woman should have thought "that men are physically more stronger than women" and gone to the gym and be stronger than man or be smart enough to have chosen a man she wouldn't have to hit.

Before that Michelle accuses me of hitting stronger men, please know that I do not advocate anyone hitting anyone!

budaatum:

Maybe that woman should have thought "that men are physically more stronger than women" and gone to the gym and be stronger than man or be smart enough to have chosen a man she wouldn't have to hit.

[i]Before that Michelle accuses me of hitting stronger men, please know that I do not advocate anyone hitting anyone![/i

u didn’t make sense to me

pansophist:


If a woman hit me, I will hit her back. If a man hit me, I will hit him back. The arguments that a woman is weak, hence, a man should not hit her no matter the circumstances (in your own words) is nonsense. Only a kid will hit me and I will ignore, but not a woman,
she will get exactly what she dishes out. Its called equal treatment. Otherwise will be benevolent sexism, a softer kind of sexism.

Sorry, not sorry.

okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

Shugavee:
okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

Said by a depreciating sack of solipsistic estrogeneous matter. Rock.

Shugavee:
okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

This is really uncalled for,when talking of sensible people you aren't fit to shine pansopist shoes.

Shugavee:
okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

Of course, like many women, anyone that disagrees with you is not sensible. If you don't want women to get beaten up by men, tell women to desist from beating men. It's that simple. The fact that men are physically stronger doesn't give you the right to physically assault men. If you go about killing people, then you had better not mind being killed. In the same way, if you go about beating/slapping men, you had better not mind getting hit in return.

Women, even though not as strong as men on average, are capable of inflicting serious and extensive damages on the men they attack if not stopped. Isn't it a bit condescending and sexist that you try to portray women as being too weak so as to be exempted from taking responsibility for their actions? In extreme cases, you have women killing men.

Stupidly justifying physical assault is a classic example of the hypocrisy and danger of modern feminism. When I rant against feminists as yourself, Michellekabod2 would say I am stooping so low to get entangled in gender wars. I hate feminists as yourself and sensible should men should keep calling your kinds out and bashing you people. From the bottom of my heart, I hate feminists like you and I wish you people would die a miserable death. You people are dangerous to have in the society and, in great numbers, weaken the civilization you inhabit.

Whether you like it or not, I must say the truth. The world would be a better place without feminists. May all feminists rot.

Cc. Pansophist, budaatum

pansophist:


Said by a depreciating sack of solipsistic estrogeneous matter. Rock.

So pansophist get bad mouth like this?

AntiMCU:

So pansophist get bad mouth like this?

Na the same mouth wey mama use praise pikin, she go also use yab am

Shugavee:
okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

.. You are such a hypocrite.

Martinez39:
Of course, like many women, anyone that disagrees with you is not sensible. If you don't want women to get beaten up by men, tell women to desist from beating men. It's that simple. The fact that men are physically stronger doesn't give you the right to physically assault men. If you go about killing people, then you had better not mind being killed. In the same way, if you go about beating/slapping men, you had better not mind getting hit in return.

Women, even though not as strong as men on average, are capable of inflicting serious and extensive damages on the men they attack if not stopped. Isn't it a bit condescending and sexist that you try to portray women as being too weak so as to be exempted from taking responsibility for their actions? In extreme cases, you have women killing men.

Stupidly justifying physical assault is a classic example of the hypocrisy and danger of modern feminism. When I rant against feminists as yourself, Michellekabod2 would say I am stooping so low to get entangled in gender wars. I hate feminists as yourself and sensible should men should keep calling your kinds out and bashing you people. From the bottom of my heart, I hate feminists like you and I wish you people would die a miserable death. You people are dangerous to have in the society and, in great numbers, weaken the civilization you inhabit.

Whether you like it or not, I must say the truth. The world would be a better place without feminists. May all feminists rot.

Cc. Pansophist, budaatum

The Ubunja you applaud has made derogatory statements about ladies severally and am yet to see a post of you condemning it! You celebrate a misogynist and your blood is boiling because of this post.
I myself have called out both males and females for disrespecting other genders but you I can say I have never seen a post of you speaking of an ill done against the female folks but you even open threads to speak up for men. Now you are over reacting for this.

Have you called out ubunja that said a man that is not a virgin is perfect but a lady that is not a virgin is a hoe? You didn't find that as inequality but you put all vigor in condemning the "a man should not hit back a lady"
Have you called out guys on romance section that call girls oloshos randomly, sham single mothers et Al...
At least I called Buda out when he said guys are pigs

You yourself that said a redpill from a female is for gullible people but you celebrate a male redpill,are you any different from the poster you clapback at?

Let's be fair here!
No Human despite his race,gender,sexuality,beliefs should be treated wrong. Don't close aneye to a particular gender suffering and cry foul with all vigor for another.

The "truth" you mention ain't fact. Your "truth" is equivalent to the thousands of religions in the world"truths" that make them belief that their own one religion is better than the rest.

My "fact" is that the world be better without gender bias people whether males or females


Check out the link ,I have never seen you call out the OP of links like this out https://www.nairaland.com/5427881/virginity-wahala

Shugavee:
okay I am talking about sensible men not you dear

You're kidding, right?

Michellekabod2:

The Ubunja you applaud has made derogatory statements about ladies severally and am yet to see a post of you condemning it! You celebrate a misogynist and your blood is boiling because of this post.
I myself have called out both males and females for disrespecting other genders but you I can say I have never seen a post of you speaking of an ill done against the female folks but you even open threads to speak up for men. Now you are over reacting for this.

Have you called out ubunja that said a man that is not a virgin is perfect but a lady that is not a virgin is a hoe? You didn't find that as inequality but you put all vigor in condemning the "a man should not hit back a lady"
Have you called out guys on romance section that call girls oloshos randomly, sham single mothers et Al...
At least I called Buda out when he said guys are pigs

You yourself that said a redpill from a female is for gullible people but you celebrate a male redpill,are you any different from the poster you clapback at?

Let's be fair here!
No Human despite his race,gender,sexuality,beliefs should be treated wrong. Don't close aneye to a particular gender suffering and cry foul with all vigor for another.

The "truth" you mention ain't fact. Your "truth" is equivalent to the thousands of religions in the world"truths" that make them belief that their own one religion is better than the rest.


My "fact" is that the world be better without gender bias people whether males or females


Check out the link ,I have never seen you call out the OP of links like this out https://www.nairaland.com/5427881/virginity-wahala

The most funniest part of it is that feminism you practice does the opposite.

Korllami007:


The most funniest part of it is that feminism you practice does the opposite.

I don't understand

Michellekabod2:

I don't understand

I mean, feminism is biased towards male gender.

Michellekabod2:

The Ubunja you applaud has made derogatory statements about ladies severally and am yet to see a post of you condemning it! You celebrate a misogynist and your blood is boiling because of this post.
I myself have called out both males and females for disrespecting other genders but you I can say I have never seen a post of you speaking of an ill done against the female folks but you even open threads to speak up for men. Now you are over reacting for this.

Have you called out ubunja that said a man that is not a virgin is perfect but a lady that is not a virgin is a hoe? You didn't find that as inequality but you put all vigor in condemning the "a man should not hit back a lady"
Have you called out guys on romance section that call girls oloshos randomly, sham single mothers et Al...
At least I called Buda out when he said guys are pigs

You yourself that said a redpill from a female is for gullible people but you celebrate a male redpill,are you any different from the poster you clapback at?

Let's be fair here!
No Human despite his race,gender,sexuality,beliefs should be treated wrong. Don't close aneye to a particular gender suffering and cry foul with all vigor for another.

The "truth" you mention ain't fact. Your "truth" is equivalent to the thousands of religions in the world"truths" that make them belief that their own one religion is better than the rest.

My "fact" is that the world be better without gender bias people whether males or females


Check out the link ,I have never seen you call out the OP of links like this out https://www.nairaland.com/5427881/virginity-wahala

We were having this conversation before and you ghosted. I haven't read all his miseducations but one thing I know is that Ubunja has been right for all his miseducations I have read and his miseducations have been helpful to many. I ask,

1) Show me evidence of his derogatory comments about ladies and other things you claim he says and let me scrutinise them(if they exist) in context?
2) You claimed, during our last conversation, that ubunja said all women are hoes, can you provide evidence for this and let me scrutinise them(if they exist) in context?

I don't do gender wars. I don't like making every little thing a "me vs them" situation. I simply stated facts. Beside, you don't expect me to be on every thread replying to everyone.

LoJ:
I can't speak about the whole world, but having traveled to many countries I can confidently say that for the greater part men and women now have similar rights and opportunities. Of course there are always differences, but these are mainly natural and enrich us as a specie.

Feminism was a glorious and well deserved movement. It is now turning into something else that looks like the fight for women's superiority over everything else.

I live in a country where any wise man should think 10 times before getting married. The laws are so much in favor of women that your life long efforts can be brought to naught 2 seconds after marriage.

I was once an ardent feminist but the story of my own brother opened my eyes for good.

Feminists should ask themselves the question, what is it they are fighting for, and if the fight is still relevant, where and how. In victory, We should learn to stop, else the victory can turn to a defeat.

My opinion.

Please and please Watch the documentary THE RED PILL. you can download it on yts.ag or yts.lt

Michellekabod2:

Michell. please Watch the documentary THE RED PILL. you can download it on yts.ag or yts.lt