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Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by jossypet(m): 7:24am On Jun 23, 2019
That will be committing murder. The child has a right to live. Besides you don't know what that child will become in life. He/she could be the answer to someone's problem.

Let's say NO to abortion. It's murder
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Nobody: 7:29am On Jun 23, 2019
aksule:
A difficult decision. However, if judges could pronounced death sentence to individual base on evidence before him, we assumed he gave this judgement base on evidence before him. In that case it's not murder per se

Read about the Judge

Justice Lieven had a history of pro-abortion activism prior to her 2018 appointment as a judge. In 2015, Lieven represented the pro-abortion Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission in its failed attempt to force Northern Ireland to legalize abortion in cases of rape, incest, or “serious malformation” of the preborn baby, according to the BBC. In 2011, Lieven represented abortion provider British Pregnancy Advisory Service in an attempt to allow women to commit abortions at home instead of at a hospital.

Legal counsel representing both the woman and her mother have stated that they believe the judge has underestimated the disabled woman’s abilities, and have argued together with the social worker taking care of the woman that termination would not be in her best interest. They also stated that the judge had no proper evidence that continuing the pregnancy would put the woman’s life or health at risk

She is a hardcore pro Abortionist who would easily use any reason even when not sensible to promote abortions.

1) She admitted that a baby born at 22 weeks can survive (Positive chance)
2) She said that if the baby stayed with the mother, the woman might have to leave her home. (An assumption)
3) The baby might also have to live with foster carers or be placed for adoption. (The girls mother is already a foster carer and placing the baby for adoption is a positive)
4) She said "I think [she] would suffer greater trauma from having a baby removed,(taken away for adoption)” (Would she not suffer trauma also knowing her baby was removed through death by abortion?)
5) She said “It would at that stage (22 weeks) be a real baby.(She in essence ordered a murder of a real baby)
6) She said “Pregnancy, although real to her, doesn’t have a baby outside her body she can touch.” (She is aware that the pregnant woman IS AWARE SHE IS PREGNANT AND IS CARRYING A LIVING BABY)

There is absolutely no grounds for her Judgement apart from the fact that she is a hardcore pro abortionist who would use any reason to support abortions.

I repeat anybody who supports this state sanctioned murder is worse than the devil himself.

At 22 weeks the only way this abortion would happen would still be through induced labour The pregnant woman would still go through the normal way of delivery but would be delivering a dead dismembered little baby. IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE SEVERE TRAUMA ON A WOMAN WHO ALREADY KNOWS SHE IS PREGNANT AND TO WHOM PREGNANCY IS REAL?
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Bleiz(m): 7:30am On Jun 23, 2019
unitysheart:


There's no point tenable enough for murder. Moral Justice supercedes any consideration for anyone.

The law doesn't commit murder.

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Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Nobody: 7:32am On Jun 23, 2019
A mentally disabled woman in UK = SANE NIGERIAN


Why can't she have a baby?

Oh I forgot they are civilized
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by crafteck(m): 7:32am On Jun 23, 2019
martyns303:
Irrespective of her mental state, it is a violation of her right as human to deprive her the right to have children. She has a mother who is also against the abortion and is willing to assist take care of the child.

The judge is concerned that if the child is taken to a foster care, it may further affect the mental state of the mother, but didn't take into consideration the effect it will have on her to terminate a 22 weeks pregnancy, that's like asking the poor girl to kill her own child, can you begin to imagine the trauma?

On a flip side, in my beloved country Nigeria, craze woman for street dey get belle born for street nothing dey happen. For jand person wey just get small mental case, wey even dey house, mama dey care for. dem say she no fit born. OK o

She's mentally disabled, what happens if she kills her child before weaning stage, she becomes a murderer right, pity the child and understand its a world of stress its about to come into.
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Stonerobaba(m): 7:39am On Jun 23, 2019
I wonder why nothing was said about the culprit that impregnated the poor lady
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Aspentrails96(m): 7:40am On Jun 23, 2019
tunwumi:
I think the judge goofed here. The baby has a right to live and it is not within the capacity of the judge to determine if the baby should die or live. This will only lead to more pressure from NGOs that want to foster the child.

The will of that woman supersedes any opinion of the judge even if she's 1year old.

Please where is the guy that impregnated this lady?
Abi an test-tube baby nii?

No, the baby has no right to live except if the mother says so!!!
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Olorunnim: 7:42am On Jun 23, 2019
odave:
Hmm, what a working society! Instead of making the child go through a rough and tough life which could even turn him/her to criminal or problem to the society... So sorry for the baby (killed at 22 weeks) and the lady

I don't support abortion really but I believe if this was done to many boko haram guyz or killer fulani herdsmen, maybe Nigeria Won't be witnessing all these horror movie.

Whoever impregnated the lady should be arrested by the way
I think so to But the problem is the woman is above the legal age of consent but she seems to be psychologically young Six to Nine years That's s legal challenge No Where did they mention Rape.
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by mu2sa2: 7:45am On Jun 23, 2019
odave:
Hmm, what a working society! Instead of making the child go through a rough and tough life which could even turn him/her to criminal or problem to the society... So sorry for the baby (killed at 22 weeks) and the lady

I don't support abortion really but I believe if this was done to many boko haram guyz or killer fulani herdsmen, maybe Nigeria Won't be witnessing all these horror movie.

Whoever impregnated the lady should be arrested by the way
You didn't include other undesirable elements - yahoo yahoo, cultists, armed robbers, pen robbers, terrorists (alias militants) - all should have been aborted in your convoluted opinion.
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Nobody: 7:46am On Jun 23, 2019
crafteck:


She's mentally disabled, what happens if she kills her child before weaning stage, she becomes a murderer right, pity the child and understand its a world of stress its about to come into.

Pity what Child?

The womans mother who happened to be a uk certified former midwife offered to take over the care of the baby once born and you talk about the disabled mother killing the child at weaning stage?

The Judge herself mentioned adoption for the baby. With these positive options available why go ahead to rule for the murder of the baby?

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Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Elvis778(m): 7:47am On Jun 23, 2019
Abortion ain't the way,

but in this case, the judge has a point.....
The girl is mentally disabled, and it would be dangerous to leave a child under her care or even under her mother's care......
Also, if you should handover the baby to foster parents, the trauma will be too much for the mother,
imagine training a baby for the first few years, only for some group of persons to come claim him/her,
it's better she aborts it now that the motherly love is at the barest minimum, than give the baby out when it's high.
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 7:49am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:



If the society works, how come someone had access to impregnate a disabled person under care?
Mumu, so the society should be policing a mentally challenged woman up and down, right, you better go and face your book selling at under bridge ikeja, ifyalways is right grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Nobody: 7:51am On Jun 23, 2019
Elvis778:
Abortion ain't the way,

but in this case, the judge has a point.....
The girl is mentally disabled, and it would be dangerous to leave a child under her care or even under her mother's care......
Also, if you should handover the baby to foster parents, the trauma will be too much for the mother,
imagine training a baby for the first few years, only for some group of persons to come claim him/her,
it's better she aborts it now that the motherly love is at the barest minimum, than give the baby out when it's high.

Show me the measuring instrument you used to know that the motherly love is at the barest minimum. Even if it is minimal it is still there because the Judge said "To the woman THE PREGNANCY IS REAL". This means that even with that mental developmental disability she has awareness of her condition and even said she did not want to abort the baby.

Do you think a 9 year old child does not know the diference between a doll and a real baby?
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by lexy2014: 7:54am On Jun 23, 2019
babyfaceafrica:
while this is murder,the judge has a point,it is a very difficult situation

Inasmuch as u say d decision was difficult 4d judge, d judge made an erroneous judgement that may leave d lady worse off. First, d pregnancy is 5 months old. That's 2 much risk to take on a persons life. D lady might die. Second, d fact that d lady doesn't want 2 loose d baby will put further mental & psychological pressure & trauma on d lady when she is forced to do an abortion. This will further worsen d mental state & health of d lady considering d fact that she is under d care of specialists. She might even become suicidal eventually. Third, d fact her mother was willing 2 take custody of d child removes any doubt regarding d welfare& upbringing of d child. In my opinion, d judge made a very selfish decision
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 7:57am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
Mumu, so the society should be policing a mentally challenged woman up and down, right, you better go and face your book selling at under bridge ikeja, ifyalways is right grin

Your are a big fool grin if she's right that's her opinion nah will you force me to believe it cheesy
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by lexy2014: 7:57am On Jun 23, 2019
Elvis778:
Abortion ain't the way,

but in this case, the judge has a point.....
The girl is mentally disabled, and it would be dangerous to leave a child under her care or even under her mother's care......
Also, if you should handover the baby to foster parents, the trauma will be too much for the mother,
imagine training a baby for the first few years, only for some group of persons to come claim him/her,
it's better she aborts it now that the motherly love is at the barest minimum, than give the baby out when it's high.
d judge made an erroneous judgement that may leave d lady worse off. First, d pregnancy is 5 months old. That's 2 much risk to take on a persons life. D lady might die. Second, d fact that d lady doesn't want 2 loose d baby will put further mental & psychological pressure & trauma on d lady when she is forced to do an abortion. This will further worsen d mental state & health of d lady considering d fact that she is under d care of specialists. She might even become suicidal eventually. Third, d fact her mother was willing 2 take custody of d child removes any doubt regarding d welfare& upbringing of d child. In my opinion, d judge made a very selfish decision
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 7:59am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:


I am a hoe, and also a big fool grin if she's right that's her opinion nah will you force me to believe it cheesy
Then why do you keep stalking me when I make my opinion as well, buzz off with your smelling menstrual pad, oloriburuku grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Elvis778(m): 8:00am On Jun 23, 2019
Tetehjewels:


Show me the measuring instrument you used to know that the motherly love is at the barest minimum. Even if it is minimal it is still there because the Judge said "To the woman THE PREGNANCY IS REAL". This means that even with that mental developmental disability she has awareness of her condition and even said she did not want to abort the baby.

Do you think a 9 year old child does not know the diference between a doll and a real baby?
you see, there are some things you don't consider,
Bringing that child into this world will be a crime to the child, he/she might turn out to be a pain on the ass to the society, cuz the mum isn't in her right senses. The only way to go about that child is to move him/her to a foster parents after the baby might have attain the age of 7.
But then,
the trauma will be so high compared to what she might face in the cause of abortion.
Something like that might even make her commit suicide (i don't know if u have an idea how it feels to loose a baby after he/she was born and cared for, even if na 1 week you train am, the thing dey pain pass say u get miscarriage)
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 8:02am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
grin


Hope you know your mother mensturated too? grin at one point her pad must have been fully soaked and smelly, I tell ya cheesy menstration and pads are normal for females nah grin

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Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Nobody: 8:05am On Jun 23, 2019
Elvis778:

you see, there are some things you don't consider,
Bringing that child into this world will be a crime to the child, he/she might turn out to be a pain on the ass to the society, cuz the mum isn't in her right senses. The only way to go about that child is to move him/her to a foster parents after the baby might have attain the age of 7.
But then,
the trauma will be so high compared to what she might face in the cause of abortion.
Something like that might even make her commit suicide (i don't know if u have an idea how it feels to loose a baby after he/she was born and cared for, even if na 1 week you train am, the thing dey pain pass say u get miscarriage)

The mother is in her right senses but at the level of a 9 year old. Stop thinking the mother is insane.

A 9 year old child knows what a baby is.

Besides the womans mother said she would take over the care of the baby once born and she is a uk certified former midwife. Who else is more qualified for the job than she is?

You spoke with a lot of assumptions and assumptions are not certainties. I have pointed out the certainties in my response.

The Judge is a selfish hardcore pro abortionist as i already mentioned in my other post and this is a Known fact about her.

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Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:05am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:



I am smelling because of my bleeding that has taken me to several hospitals and yet no cure, flies follow me up and down, that is why I am looking for diasporans to date, I stink and maggot are coming out of me
grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 8:06am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
I'm a wasted drug peddler sad

ok
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Elvis778(m): 8:09am On Jun 23, 2019
lexy2014:

d judge made an erroneous judgement that may leave d lady worse off. First, d pregnancy is 5 months old. That's 2 much risk to take on a persons life. D lady might die. Second, d fact that d lady doesn't want 2 loose d baby will put further mental & psychological pressure & trauma on d lady when she is forced to do an abortion. This will further worsen d mental state & health of d lady considering d fact that she is under d care of specialists. She might even become suicidal eventually. Third, d fact her mother was willing 2 take custody of d child removes any doubt regarding d welfare& upbringing of d child. In my opinion, d judge made a very selfish decision
If you know how it feels to loose a grown up baby to another parents, you won't be talking like this,
ofcourse she'll face some certain challenges after the abortion and that might worsen her condition,
but she's going to face a higher risk of loosing her senses totally if she should train the baby to some certain stage, only to loose him/her to another parents.

Secondly, putting a baby under the care of the grandmum is never the way to go, it's quite dangerous, if you check all this white kids (that always causetrouble in the streets) most of them are under their granny's care, grannys lack the ability to correct their grandchildren.
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:11am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:


I am a useless harlot, I was birthed by a village witch,
I am hopeless and will likely die, my life is meaning less because I am HIV infected
cheesy
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:14am On Jun 23, 2019
[quote author=Mizwisdom post=79591413]


My mother died a miserable death, we are cursed in my entire family and I am already frustrated as well because the curses from my ancestors are working on me /quote] grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 8:14am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
cheesy I'm the product of a harlot, I'm depressed because I don't know who my father is. I'm a murderer and I believe a 22week old foetus should be killed so that I can drink its blood
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Elvis778(m): 8:15am On Jun 23, 2019
Tetehjewels:


The mother is in her right senses but at the level of a 9 year old. Stop thinking the mother is insane.

A 9 year old child knows what a baby is.

Besides the womans mother said she would take over the care of the baby once born and she is a uk certified former midwife. Who else is more qualified for the job than she is?

You spoke with a lot of assumptions and assumptions are not certainties. I have pointed out the certainties in my response.

The Judge is a selfish hardcore pro abortionist as i already mentioned in my other post and this is a Known fact about her.
we both know that leaving a child under the care of his/her granny,
is like telling the child to do whatever he likes,
most wayward kids were brought up by their granny,
grannys lack the ability to correct their grandchildren, it's common, even in our own Nigerian setting
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:16am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:



curse be the day my witch of a mother gave birth to me, my dad was a mad man on the street of lagos and raped my mom brutally and I am that product,
grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 8:18am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
grin. My mother is a demonic vampire, who drinks blood of foetuses
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:21am On Jun 23, 2019
Mizwisdom:
We are cursed in my entire family, l came to travel section to look for help, my fashion business and book selling business is not yielding anything, I service different men at oshodi, I am currently infected with AIDS,
can you help me
No, die with your AIDS grin
Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by AngelicBeing: 8:23am On Jun 23, 2019

Re: Judge Orders 22-week Pregnant Disabled Woman To Have Abortion by Mizwisdom(f): 8:27am On Jun 23, 2019
AngelicBeing:
grin

Haha flogging a picture? haha you're a clown o grin

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