uuzba:

Why will you deny an innocent child the right to life?
Did you ask anybody for chance to allow you to be born?
Did you select your parents who born you?
Same with all unborn babies.
As you were allowed to be born, so too must you allow them to be born.

If you think the child has no sense, first allow him be born, grow up and have sense. When he is 18year old, with full sense, go and explain to him that you have to kill him, because his mother is daft.

Abi?
This is true justice.
You people enjoy killing somebody because he can't talk.

This is what is keeping our country behind.

Tetehjewels:


Your brain must be loaded with Akamu. So Foster care is now worse than death?

Is adopting a child worse than killing the same child at 22 weeks?

Akamu brain.

I wont insult you back. Am above that.

stanliwise:
Stop trying to build mountains from moll hils, you simply lack the correct info of the situation, the story you painted up there is just for the trash.
The Judge I believe should have a better explanation for making his decision.

Did you read the op.

GistMore4:
GistMore.com

A mentally disabled woman has been ordered by a British judge, Nathalie Lieven, on Friday to abort her 22-week pregnancy despite objections from the woman and her mother.

The woman who is described to be in her 20s has developmental disabilities and the mental age of a 6- to 9-year-old. She is reported to be under the care of an NHS trust, as part of the country’s National Health Service.

Although the judge admitted in the ruling that it’s an “immense intrusion” to order the abortion against the woman’s will, he argued that it’s in the best interest of the woman, Fox news reported.

Lieven said, “I am acutely conscious of the fact that for the State to order a woman to have a termination where it appears that she doesn’t want it is an immense intrusion.

“I have to operate in [her] best interests, not on society’s views of termination.”

She added that the woman would be unable to care for the child on her own and that she was concerned about the risks posed by the woman’s behavioural and psychological problems.

She said the woman may have to leave home if the baby was placed in the care of the woman’s mother.

The child could also potentially be placed into foster care.

She said she believed the woman would suffer more distress if the baby was taken away, rather than if it was terminated.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/british-judge-orders-disabled-pregnant-woman-abortion.amp

adanny01:


Did you read the op.

This news article by the OP isnt complete. It did not provide details. I searched out other sources and got the full story and from the full story the below is the real story pointers and it shows the Judge was wrong.

Read about the Judge

Justice Lieven had a history of pro-abortion activism prior to her 2018 appointment as a judge. In 2015, Lieven represented the pro-abortion Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission in its failed attempt to force Northern Ireland to legalize abortion in cases of rape, incest, or “serious malformation” of the preborn baby, according to the BBC. In 2011, Lieven represented abortion provider British Pregnancy Advisory Service in an attempt to allow women to commit abortions at home instead of at a hospital.

Legal counsel representing both the woman and her mother have stated that they believe the judge has underestimated the disabled woman’s abilities, and have argued together with the social worker taking care of the woman that termination would not be in her best interest. They also stated that the judge had no proper evidence that continuing the pregnancy would put the woman’s life or health at risk

She is a hardcore pro Abortionist who would easily use any reason even when not sensible to promote abortions.

1) She admitted that a baby born at 22 weeks can survive (Positive chance)
2) She said that if the baby stayed with the mother, the woman might have to leave her home. (An assumption)
3) The baby might also have to live with foster carers or be placed for adoption. (The girls mother is already a foster carer as a uk certified former midwife and placing the baby for adoption is a positive)
4) She said "I think [she] would suffer greater trauma from having a baby removed,(taken away for adoption)” (Would she not suffer trauma also knowing her baby was removed through death by abortion?)
5) She said “It would at that stage (22 weeks) be a real baby.(She in essence ordered a murder of a real baby)
6) She said “Pregnancy, although real to her, doesn’t have a baby outside her body she can touch.” (She is aware that the pregnant woman IS AWARE SHE IS PREGNANT AND IS CARRYING A LIVING BABY)

There is absolutely no grounds for her Judgement apart from the fact that she is a hardcore pro abortionist who would use any reason to support abortions.

I repeat anybody who supports this state sanctioned murder is worse than the devil himself.

At 22 weeks the only way this abortion would happen would still be through induced labour The pregnant woman would still go through the normal way of delivery but would be delivering a dead dismembered little baby. IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE SEVERE TRAUMA ON A WOMAN WHO ALREADY KNOWS SHE IS PREGNANT AND TO WHOM PREGNANCY IS REAL?

Hmmmmm!

The mad woman I saw in my street last week coming out from one Lexus 470.

I felt like squeezing that rich man alive.

the man just dropped her and drove off.

Tetehjewels:


This news article by the OP isnt complete. It did not provide details. I searched out other sources and got the full story and from the full story the below is the real story pointers and it shows the Judge was wrong.

Read about the Judge



She is a hardcore pro Abortionist who would easily use any reason even when not sensible to promote abortions.

1) She admitted that a baby born at 22 weeks can survive (Positive chance)
2) She said that if the baby stayed with the mother, the woman might have to leave her home. (An assumption)
3) The baby might also have to live with foster carers or be placed for adoption. (The girls mother is already a foster carer and placing the baby for adoption is a positive)
4) She said "I think [she] would suffer greater trauma from having a baby removed,(taken away for adoption)” (Would she not suffer trauma also knowing her baby was removed through death by abortion?)
5) She said “It would at that stage (22 weeks) be a real baby.(She in essence ordered a murder of a real baby)
6) She said “Pregnancy, although real to her, doesn’t have a baby outside her body she can touch.” (She is aware that the pregnant woman IS AWARE SHE IS PREGNANT AND IS CARRYING A LIVING BABY)

There is absolutely no grounds for her Judgement apart from the fact that she is a hardcore pro abortionist who would use any reason to support abortions.

I repeat anybody who supports this state sanctioned murder is worse than the devil himself.

At 22 weeks the only way this abortion would happen would still be through induced labour The pregnant woman would still go through the normal way of delivery but would be delivering a dead dismembered little baby. IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE SEVERE TRAUMA ON A WOMAN WHO ALREADY KNOWS SHE IS PREGNANT AND TO WHOM PREGNANCY IS REAL?

What you are doing is digging dirt to shake the foundation of the judgement. Very typical.

By my opinion, the next thing you will tell me is i am a pro abortionist too. Before you get there, let me tell you I am.

This also means you are anti abortionist, dont deny please.

So, it means their is no point we will argue realistically and reach a common opinion.

Let me digress, i hold the opinion that the main reason Nigeria is as bad as it is because we never ever consistently uphold the truth. The person who is corrupt will never admit he is. The person who gives birth to 30 children but cannot give them what is required of as a parent would never admit wrong doing. A teacher who fails in his duty will never admit he has failed to teach. The politician who is among the 3 is greater than 10 will never admit 10 is greater than 3. A doctor who doesnt actually care for his patient's health will never admit to it.

Lastly, we as the general citizens will not admit that the pension boss who stole money is wrong just because he is from the same geopolitical zone with us.

I have not seen a religion that is pro abortionist. Once you are religious, it means to say you automatically become anti abortionist. The main question is, is abortion murder in law? Why do we have laws? Is it illegal to order an abortion in the interest of someone even when the society is against and the very person who is the subject is also against it. Was China wrong to limit its birth rate?

I can go on and on but the truth is that, whether abortion is right or wrong, the focus should be on who is living not who is going to live (unborn) or who has lived (dead). Only realist care about the living. Those who care about the unborn and the death are naturally bound to think and act illogically, just like Nigerians steal so much money to guarantee a good life for their generation yet unborn.

Aspentrails96:

No, the baby has no right to live except if the mother says so!!!

Then read the passage again.

Such a dilemma!
The lady has a brain of a child, how can a child look after another child? The mother should have done something to prevent her from getting pregnant knowing fully well that some men are just animals, no matter her state of health, they will still mount her.
The little one deserve to live but then, what of heredity? What if she gave birth to another disordered child? Really confusing.
Anyway, the deed is done already, the child should live and be given out for adoption. They only should guide against another pregnancy.

adanny01:


What you are doing is digging dirt to shake the foundation of the judgement. Very typical.

By my opinion, the next thing you will tell me is i am a pro abortionist too. Before you get there, let me tell you I am.

This also means you are anti abortionist, dont deny please.

So, it means their is no point we will argue realistically and reach a common opinion.

Let me digress, i hold the opinion that the main reason Nigeria is as bad as it is because we never ever consistently uphold the truth. The person who is corrupt will never admit he is. The person who gives birth to 30 children but cannot give them what is required of as a parent would never admit wrong doing. A teacher who fails in his duty will never admit he has failed to teach. The politician who is among the 3 is greater than 10 will never admit 10 is greater than 3. A doctor who doesnt actually care for his patient's health will never admit to it.

Lastly, we as the general citizens will not admit that the pension boss who stole money is wrong just because he is from the same geopolitical zone with us.

I have not seen a religion that is pro abortionist. Once you are religious, it means to say you automatically become anti abortionist. The main question is, is abortion murder in law? Why do we have laws? Is it illegal to order an abortion in the interest of someone even when the society is against and the very person who is the subject is also against it. Was China wrong to limit its birth rate?

I can go on and on but the truth is that, whether abortion is right or wrong, the focus should be on who is living not who is going to live (unborn) or who has lived (dead). Only realist care about the living. Those who care about the unborn and the death are naturally bound to think and act illogically, just like Nigerians steal so much money to guarantee a good life for their generation yet unborn.

What's your point and how's it related to the post. Taking a life against the baby and mum's wish and right you think is justifiable?. The same mental woman that has nurture this pregnancy for 22weeks and the 100% sane mother also willing to take care and raise the baby. Even the jobless men giving birth to dozens of children without means of providing for them don't have their unborn children sentenced to death like this innocent woman and baby with no issue of aggression in character stated in the post

adanny01:


What you are doing is digging dirt to shake the foundation of the judgement. Very typical.

By my opinion, the next thing you will tell me is i am a pro abortionist too. Before you get there, let me tell you I am.

This also means you are anti abortionist, dont deny please.

So, it means their is no point we will argue realistically and reach a common opinion.

[s]Let me digress, i hold the opinion that the main reason Nigeria is as bad as it is because we never ever consistently uphold the truth. The person who is corrupt will never admit he is. The person who gives birth to 30 children but cannot give them what is required of as a parent would never admit wrong doing. A teacher who fails in his duty will never admit he has failed to teach. The politician who is among the 3 is greater than 10 will never admit 10 is greater than 3. A doctor who doesnt actually care for his patient's health will never admit to it.

Lastly, we as the general citizens will not admit that the pension boss who stole money is wrong just because he is from the same geopolitical zone with us.

I have not seen a religion that is pro abortionist. Once you are religious, it means to say you automatically become anti abortionist. The main question is, is abortion murder in law? Why do we have laws? Is it illegal to order an abortion in the interest of someone even when the society is against and the very person who is the subject is also against it. Was China wrong to limit its birth rate?[/s]

I can go on and on but the truth is that, whether abortion is right or wrong, the focus should be on who is living not who is going to live (unborn) or who has lived (dead). Only realist care about the living. Those who care about the unborn and the death are naturally bound to think and act illogically, just like Nigerians steal so much money to guarantee a good life for their generation yet unborn.

You are obviously confused. Even the Judge admitted that at 22 weeks the baby is A REAL BABY. This means she admits to the fact that THAT THE BABY IS ALIVE AND IS HUMAN at 22 weeks be it born or unborn. Is it when a baby is born that it is considered human or is it human first before it is born? Is the baby at 22 weeks considered dead simply because it hasnt been born? Do you see that some of you are simply mad?

The reason why there is so much uproar regarding this particular case is because even the judge admits that the baby is human at 22 weeks. She in essence is asking for THE HUMAN BABY to be murdered at 22 weeks.

I had to cancel out the part i did because you were simply saying nonsense there and it had nothing to do with the issue at hand.

tunwumi:


What about war?

All is fair and just in war

Child benefits in mind

Its a trigger.

Government pay millions every month for people that don't have any reasons giving birth at all in UK.

UK don't play with children. For the state to want a termination means they know more than we that are busy arguining here based on emotion and religion.
These people use real facts of life. Emotion and religion didn't get them to where they are.
They have been the one providing for this same pregnant lady. Her medical history is before them.
Even as the mum is a midwife, her history is before them too.
Can she really take care of the child?
How has she been treating and taking care of her disabled child prior to the pregnancy?
Or did she just materialise because money is involved now?

Social service is there. Their report is there.

For the state to take the case to court in the first place,hmn.

We only knew of the final judgement. The beginning and the middle that gave birth to this judgement, we don't know yet we think we know better than her state and the judge who said the pregnancy should be terminated.

Nigerians and thinking with only emotions.

Someone was actually praising how mad women take care of their kids in Nigeria. Really?

I happened to see one mad woman who sits under a tree close to one apian way we usually follow to school.
A very young girl. People of course give her things. One day I saw her crying boy licking what looked like powdered milk.
I nearly passed but had to stop with shock when I saw her giving her pouring baby powder on his hand and the boy was licking it.
My day was totally ruined that day. Till tomorrow I will never forget that scene. Sometimes if u give her food, she will throw away. The baby will wail and wail. At a point I stopped seeing her and the child.
Of course if u come to her to take the child and bath him, she will want to eat u alive. She wasn't violent.
I will never wish any child to pass through that.
And to think that it's men that give them belle and leave them to their fate.
Now everybody has remembered morality.
Hypocrites everywhere.

leave it to God! The Baby Is Not A Mistake

Stupid judgement, the baby has a grandmother and relations, that judge is mad, he's putting someone's life at risk against her will

Tetehjewels:


You are obviously confused. Even the Judge admitted that at 22 weeks the baby is A REAL BABY. This means she admits to the fact that THAT THE BABY IS ALIVE AND IS HUMAN at 22 weeks be it born or unborn. Is it when a baby is born that it is considered human or is it human first before it is born? Is the baby at 22 weeks considered dead simply because it hasnt been born? Do you see that some of you are simply mad?

The reason why there is so much uproar regarding this particular case is because even the judge admits that the baby is human at 22 weeks. She in essence is asking for THE HUMAN BABY to be murdered at 22 weeks.

I had to cancel out the part i did because you were simply saying nonsense there and it had nothing to do with the issue at hand.

If you want to say the baby is alive, i believe every sperm out there is alive since it can swim. The millions of sperm which don't get to fertilize an egg are all murdered especially by using condom, pills or any contraceptive out there.

Infact, God himself by implication is a murderer who allowed the all men to die at some point or another.

Even when the judge admitted to that which you said she did, she also said she is taking that decision in the interest of the pregnant mother. You judged her for that. What about the other complicated pregnancy that Drs. have to abort to save the life of the mother who is in full expectation of the birth. My neighbor was pregnant at the same time with my wife, hers had to be evacuated when she was constantly bleeding and the bleeding would not stop. By implication, the Dr who evacuated the pregnancy has committed murder. The husband who authorized the evacuation murdered his own child he was expecting to hold in his arms and nuture. The woman who agreed to the murder has actually committed murder on her own flesh and blood.

What is murder sef?

murder
/ˈməːdə/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Who is a human being?
human being
/ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

So how does abortion become murder? Is a fetus a child, man or woman?

You conclude i was saying nonsense only because i didnt put together a point from that that i said, meanwhile there is a point which you didnt see. The point is you are religious and religiously following doctrines creates all the things i said that you stroke out. The truth is that religious beliefs causes people to be unrealistic to the essence of life. Only very few religious individuals find the balance between religion and life.

Is it not religion that allows its faithful to marry 4 wives if they can take the responsibility. What do they do, they marry 4 wives, give birth to 30 children but cannot be responsible for them, yet ask the person he will claim religion. This same person would have created poverty in his family. In saner climes, the state will take responsibility of the children, but not when every body feels that he has the right to give birth as much. Or when an individual feels he wants his own bloodline to dominate, this creates a problem for the society. If the society tells him to stop giving birth, am sure other religious persons like him would say its a war on religion. At the end, its a free for all. Do as you like. That is the predicament of the Nigerian state and that is what those people we rush to have tried to do, keep a balance between religion and the society.

This matter is between religion and the society. If it were in Nigeria, religion will always win and that is the bane to Nigeria's progress.

She should be injected so that she won't be pregnant again,

If they about this one won't there be more to abort ❓

adanny01:



If you want to say the baby is alive, i believe every sperm out there is alive since it can swim. The millions of sperm which don't get to fertilize an egg are all murdered especially by using condom, pills or any contraceptive out there.

Infact, God himself by implication is a murderer who allowed the all men to die at some point or another.

Even when the judge admitted to that which you said she did, she also said she is taking that decision in the interest of the pregnant mother. You judged her for that. What about the other complicated pregnancy that Drs. have to abort to save the life of the mother who is in full expectation of the birth. My neighbor was pregnant at the same time with my wife, hers had to be evacuated when she was constantly bleeding and the bleeding would not stop. By implication, the Dr who evacuated the pregnancy has committed murder. The husband who authorized the evacuation murdered his own child he was expecting to hold in his arms and nuture. The woman who agreed to the murder has actually committed murder on her own flesh and blood.

What is murder sef?

murder
/ˈməːdə/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Who is a human being?
human being
/ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

So how does abortion become murder? Is a fetus a child, man or woman?

You conclude i was saying nonsense only because i didnt put together a point from that that i said, meanwhile there is a point which you didnt see. The point is you are religious and religiously following doctrines creates all the things i said that you stroke out. The truth is that religious beliefs causes people to be unrealistic to the essence of life. Only very few religious individuals find the balance between religion and life.

Is it not religion that allows its faithful to marry 4 wives if they can take the responsibility. What do they do, they marry 4 wives, give birth to 30 children but cannot be responsible for them, yet ask the person he will claim religion. This same person would have created poverty in his family. In saner climes, the state will take responsibility of the children, but not when every body feels that he has the right to give birth as much. Or when an individual feels he wants his own bloodline to dominate, this creates a problem for the society. If the society tells him to stop giving birth, am sure other religious persons like him would say its a war on religion. At the end, its a free for all. Do as you like. That is the predicament of the Nigerian state and that is what those people we rush to have tried to do, keep a balance between religion and the society.

This matter is between religion and the society. If it were in Nigeria, religion will always win and that is the bane to Nigeria's progress.

You must speak especially if you don't understand what you're talking about...Sperm alone don't form baby for it takes an ovum and a sperm cell to form one. Nature made it so that out of the hundreds of millions of sperm deposited into the woman's body only one get to make it to the ripe egg (ovum) for fertilization to occur. Same thing happens with the bees where only one male succeed in mating with the queen after which they die. Mind you, pregnancy of 22weeks( 6months) already have live ( human live), well formed, just getting matured to stand the environment outside the womb the same way newly born babies are not taking outside the house immediately. Make your point without confusing or contradicting issues. THANKS

adanny01:



If you want to say the baby is alive, i believe every sperm out there is alive since it can swim. The millions of sperm which don't get to fertilize an egg are all murdered especially by using condom, pills or any contraceptive out there.

Infact, God himself by implication is a murderer who allowed the all men to die at some point or another.

Even when the judge admitted to that which you said she did, she also said she is taking that decision in the interest of the pregnant mother. You judged her for that. What about the other complicated pregnancy that Drs. have to abort to save the life of the mother who is in full expectation of the birth. My neighbor was pregnant at the same time with my wife, hers had to be evacuated when she was constantly bleeding and the bleeding would not stop. By implication, the Dr who evacuated the pregnancy has committed murder. The husband who authorized the evacuation murdered his own child he was expecting to hold in his arms and nuture. The woman who agreed to the murder has actually committed murder on her own flesh and blood.

What is murder sef?

murder
/ˈməːdə/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Who is a human being?
human being
/ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/
noun
a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

So how does abortion become murder? Is a fetus a child, man or woman?

[s]You conclude i was saying nonsense only because i didnt put together a point from that that i said, meanwhile there is a point which you didnt see. The point is you are religious and religiously following doctrines creates all the things i said that you stroke out. The truth is that religious beliefs causes people to be unrealistic to the essence of life. Only very few religious individuals find the balance between religion and life.

Is it not religion that allows its faithful to marry 4 wives if they can take the responsibility. What do they do, they marry 4 wives, give birth to 30 children but cannot be responsible for them, yet ask the person he will claim religion. This same person would have created poverty in his family. In saner climes, the state will take responsibility of the children, but not when every body feels that he has the right to give birth as much. Or when an individual feels he wants his own bloodline to dominate, this creates a problem for the society. If the society tells him to stop giving birth, am sure other religious persons like him would say its a war on religion. At the end, its a free for all. Do as you like. That is the predicament of the Nigerian state and that is what those people we rush to have tried to do, keep a balance between religion and the society.

This matter is between religion and the society. If it were in Nigeria, religion will always win and that is the bane to Nigeria's progress.[/s]

You are clearly dumber than most.

We are talking about a 22 week old baby and you are going backwards to talk about a sperm. Are you sure you are not an actual mental patient?

Even when the Judge said she is taking the decision in the interest of the mother why should she disregard the decision of the grandmother which is also in the interest of the mother? The grandmothers decision is by all means much better than that of a pro abortion Judge who simply wanted any flimsy reason to rule for an abortion against all other sensible offers which she had before her.

What makes he think her own decision is more humane or of a better standing that those of others?

Again you gave a totally ridiculous comparison regarding your bleeding neighbor which led to an evacuation of her fetus. Can you show me anywhere in the report which stated that the mother had a dangerous medical condition or any part of the report that stated that the baby in the womb had a complication which endangered the mother. Can you show me?

Again i had the cancel out the nonsensical part of your post which had nothing to do with the issue at hand.

The attached pictures are those of a baby at 22 weeks when born. Tell me this is not human at this point.

odave:
Hmm, what a working society! Instead of making the child go through a rough and tough life which could even turn him/her to criminal or problem to the society... So sorry for the baby (killed at 22 weeks) and the lady

I don't support abortion really but I believe if this was done to many boko haram guyz or killer fulani herdsmen, maybe Nigeria Won't be witnessing all these horror movie.

Whoever impregnated the lady should be arrested by the way

What if I told you that here in Nigeria we abort the good ones,while the boko boys,politicians and even u were the ones that should have been aborted. #Every life deserves a chance at life.

Clarity has to be made on what intrusion really mean tell her not to have pretty marital sex it's her life but she has no choice now

Considering the physical and neurodevelopmental deficits the lady has, I think the judge made a difficult but late call. I suspect the lady has cerebral palsy which unlike some other forms of mental instability have no chance of cure.
Many countries consider fetus viable from 22-28 weeks, although abortion is preferred at the 13th week or earlier.
What is the assurance that the child will get quality care from the relatives? No child deserve to be brought to this earth to suffer.

Godmademan:
Considering the physical and neurodevelopmental deficits the lady has, I think the judge made a difficult but late call. I suspect the lady has cerebral palsy which unlike some other forms of mental instability have no chance of cure.
Many countries consider fetus viable from 22-28 weeks, although abortion is preferred at the 13th week or earlier.
What is the assurance that the child will get quality care from the relatives? No child deserve to be brought to this earth to suffer.

So how does killing the baby against the baby's right to live and mum's right to have child answer the question you asked about the assurance of the child getting quality care from relatives, assumption ( probability) without verification because some thinks because someone thinks human lives or right doesn't matter. You also forgot that part that says the granny wanted the girl to have the baby,hence,she's ready to have and take care of her grand child. Under the same relatives she has been and nurtured this pregnancy for 22weeks ( 6 months). And what judgment will you give to some sane but very poor parents that gave birth to many kids that they don't have means of providing for or take care of them?. This is daylight murder under the disguise of mentally disabled

Tetehjewels:


The woman IS NOT mentally deranged. She simply has a limited mental developmental state of a 6 to 9 year old. This means she is perfectly fine but cannot mentally reason above the level of a 6 to 9 year old. There are several people like that. if her state was at the level of a 2 year old i would understand but a 6-9 year old? That Judge is Mad.

She knows she is pregnant and has already developed a bond with the baby she is carrying. Even at that level of mental development, children know how to care and love and i seriously doubt she would pose any risk to that child especially since her mother is also against the abortion and would surely assist in her upbringing.

The british society can be a very very selfish one and that Judge is mad.

Erm..... A 6 - 9 Year old mental state. Now let me ask you one question;

Would you leave your child in the care of a 6 year old unsupervised by another adult for a lengthy period of time?

If your response is No.. Then there you have my oine of thought.

If Yes, then lets just agree to disagree.

MadCow1:


Erm..... A 6 - 9 Year old mental state. Now let me ask you one question;

Would you leave your child in the care of a 6 year old unsupervised by another adult for a lengthy period of time?

If your response is No.. Then there you have my oine of thought.

If Yes, then lets just agree to disagree.

I am sure you saw and read where the mother of the pregnant woman said she would assume responsibility of the child immediately after birth. which means the child would never be left in the care of its mother as it would always be in the care of the grandmother who happened to be a UK certified former midwife.

If after reading that part and you still support the Judges ruling then i have nothing more to say.