excanny:

You mind being more specific. Let have the examples.

Here are just a few. . . . .

According to Jos 8:28, the city of Ai will be destroyed forever. In actuality, Ai did have later inhabitants. (See Ezr 2:1,28 and Ne 7:32.)

According to Ex 3:8, the Israelites will live in a large land, flowing with milk and honey, and according to 2Sa 7:10, they will not be disturbed anymore, but as a matter of historical fact Israel (and vicinity) has been a relatively small and mostly barren land, and the Israelites have been continually harassed from all sides.

According to Isa 14:23, Babylon will become wet, but that never happened. According to Jer 51:36, Babylon will become totally dry, but that never happened either. According to other verses, [11] Babylon will never be inhabited by people again, but in fact Babylon has been continually inhabited by people since that time. It is now part of Iraq.

According to Isa 17:1, Damascus will be destroyed, but in fact Damascus is one of the few ancient cities that has never been destroyed. [The fact that so many were destroyed makes prophecies of the future destruction of ancient cities rather unremarkable.] If Isaiah had predicted that Damascus would never be destroyed, then that would have been remarkable.

According to Isa 19:5, Eze 30:12, and Zec 10:11, the Nile River will dry up, and according to Eze 29:9-12, Egypt will become desolate for 40 years, with no man or animal passing through it and with all Egyptians dispersed, but as a matter of fact the Nile River has never dried up and in the whole history of Egypt no such calamitous events have ever occurred

According to Isa 34:9-10, Edom (the land between the Dead Sea and Gulf of Aqaba) will become burning pitch: no one will ever pass through it again. But in truth that has never happened to Edom. People have passed through it for thousands of years.

According to Jer 42:17, Jews who choose to live in Egypt will all die and leave no remnant. But history shows that Jews continued to live there for centuries, later establishing a cultural center at Alexandria.

OLAADEGBU:

 
The deluded is the one who simply hides his head in the sand thinking that no one sees his delusion.

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters  And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. -- Gen.1:6

So where is the firmament that divides the waters above from the waters below?. . . . .Where is the water above?. . . . .

If atheists spent their time reading the Bible with an open mind they would save themselves of a lot of pain.

If Christians STOP lying around and making things up and just accept that the bible is the writings of ancient bronze age men that had no idea about the creation of the universe it will be good for every body. . . . .No need lying through your teeth just because you want to make sense out of pure nonsense. . . .

This is an exerpt from Bible scholars on the explanation of the firmament in verse 6

The guy is a deluded liar, he doesn't even know what he is talking about at all. . . . .

So, it is up to you if you want to stick your head up and smell the coffee or remain buried in the sand like an ostrich.

Look who is talking. . . . .

the christian god felt it necessary to write the ten commandments himself, why not just finish it? why live it for us imperfect men to do for him? he's typewriter got broken or something? and why only men? why not have women write it as well? (guess we all know the answer to this one)

smh @ using the bible to support the bible. "the bible is the word of god because it is written in it",lol. god inspiring people to write the bible would be like saying harry potter told J.K. how to write the harry potter novels. If god (as described in the bible as all perfect and all knowing) wrote the bible, there wouldn't remain the question. the bible writers believed the sun revolves around the earth. god should probably know that it doesnt.

the bible was obviously conceived by mysoginist bronze age goat herders way back in ancient times when humans asked themselves 'why is the world as we perceive it? where did it start? how did it form?' as an answer to these questions while trying to also instill order and rule amongst their group, thats why it seems like a reward and punishment guide. it was written by men, just like all mythology

Christians should go out and read refreshing books that broaden your mind. Like Thomas Paine's Age of Reason.

Though he is a deist, he points out that the weakest form of communication between man and God is language! If God wants to contact us, he would use the same immutable laws, he built the universe with, not subject to the manipulation of religious leaders poor revelations.

Can't fish the verse out, but predicted that Nebuchnazzar would conquer Tyre. But Alexander the Great came along and finished off the city in 7 months.

Waoh, i've yet to see so much ignorance all month. Unbelievers are truly dead and then blind on top of it.
Thank God for Jesus who still offers hope in such situations.

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Waoh, i've yet to see so much ignorance all month. Unbelievers are truly dead and then [b]blind [/b]on top of it.

smh @ this slowpoke employing the usual christian apologist tactics of unwarranted attacks and insults. you believe in talking snakes and donkeys, and label others ignorant. smh


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Thank God for Jesus who still offers hope in such situations.

as a christian, is that not suppose to translate to "thank god for himself who still offers hope in such situations". smh. and people think the mormons are weird

^You muddled are not just ignorant and muddled up. You, REMEMBER, are THE FOOL. Never forget that ever. Psalm 14v1

@OP

My brother,the answer to your question is capital NO.
How did you expect God to write books on religions He did not institute?
People said they were inspired to write on behalf of God


Have you read the book of Mammon before?

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^You muddled are not just ignorant and muddled up. You, REMEMBER, are THE FOOL. Never forget that ever. Psalm 14v1

okay, if that helps you sleep better at night; really appreciate the christ-like response. i'm now used to how you guys (nairaland christians) get down. haul insults and invectives at anyone of a different opinion from yours. nice christian virtue; carpenter yeshua and his father/himself will be really proud of ya

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mazaje:

Here are just a few. . . . .

According to Jos 8:28, the city of Ai will be destroyed forever. In actuality, Ai did have later inhabitants. (See Ezr 2:1,28 and Ne 7:32.)

Jos 8:28 KJV-'And Joshua burnt Ai, and made
it a heap for ever, [even] a
desolation unto this day.'

'a desolation unto this day' indicates that as at the time of the writer writing Ai was not inhabited. 'forever' can also mean 'for a long undetermined time' or 'an indefinite time' as also used in Gen. 6:3

According to Ex 3:8, the
Israelites will live in a large land,
flowing with milk and honey, and
according to 2Sa 7:10, they will
not be disturbed anymore, but
as a matter of historical fact
Israel (and vicinity) has been a
relatively small and mostly
barren land, and the Israelites
have been continually harassed
from all sides.

The promised land was large and fertile. Shephelah is a hilly lowland where vineyards and olive groves flourished, the valley of Jezreel was productive for wheats, and the plain of Sharon has large quantity of citrus orchards cultivated there even now.

2 Sam. 7:10 was one of the blessings of God's covenant with David which manifested fully during the reign of Solomon when the Israelites did not fight a single battle. The blessing would continue as long as David's sons were faithful to God. However, toward the end of his life, Solomon became unfaithful and the blessing of peace was removed. 'Therefore the LORD said to
Solomon, “Because you have
done this, and have not kept My
covenant and My statutes, which
I have commanded you, I will
surely tear the kingdom away
from you and give it to your
servant. Nevertheless I will
not do it in your days, for the
sake of your father David; I will
tear it out of the hand of your
son. However I will not tear
away the whole kingdom; I will
give one tribe to your son for
the sake of My servant David,
and for the sake of Jerusalem
which I have chosen.'- 1 Ki 11: 11-13

According to Isa 14:23, Babylon
will become wet, but that never
happened. According to Jer
51:36, Babylon will become
totally dry, but that never
happened either. According to
other verses, [11] Babylon will
never be inhabited by people
again, but in fact Babylon has
been continually inhabited by
people since that time.  It is now
part of Iraq.

Isa 14:23-Babylon was a city that lay on both sides of the Euphrates River and had many pools of water already. What is remarkable in the verse is that Babylon would become a possession of hedgehogs, together with its pools of of water.
Jer 51:36-This happened when Cyrus diverted the Euphrates River into artificial lakes.

I'll be taking them bit by bit. Wait for the rest.

but in fact Babylon has
been continually inhabited by
people since that time.

This is not true. All that
remains of the original ancient
famed city of Babylon today is a
mound, or tell, of broken mud-
brick buildings and debris in the
fertile Mesopotamian plain
between the Tigris and Euphrates
rivers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon?wasRedirected=true

There are many God wannabes here.

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"The authors", speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote on hundreds of controversial subjects with absolute harmony from the beginning to the end.  There is one unfolding story from Genesis to Revelation; the redemption of mankind through the Old Testament of the coming Messiah, the New Testament from the Messiah that has come.  In Genesis, you have paradise lost, in Revelation you have paradise gained.  You cannot understand Revelation without understanding Genesis.  It's all interwoven on hundreds of controversial subjects.

"Now here's the picture: 1,600 years, 60 generations, 40 plus authors, different walks of life, different places, different times, different moods, different continents, three languages, writing on hundreds of controversial subjects and yet when they are brought together, there is absolute harmony from beginning to end . . . There is no other book in history to even compare to the uniqueness of this continuity." -- Josh McDowell

"We account the Scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy.  I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever." -- Sir Isaac Newton

"The Bible is endorsed by the ages.  Our civilization is built upon its words.  In no other Book is there such a collection of inspired wisdom, reality and hope." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower was the 34th President of the United States, from 1953-1961.

Mudley313:

okay, if that helps you sleep better at night; really appreciate the christ-like response. i'm now used to how you guys (nairaland christians) get down. haul insults and invectives at anyone of a different opinion from yours. nice christian virtue; carpenter yeshua and his father/himself will be really proud of ya

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. . .deluded goat!!!

While you ruminate on Jesus and His Father's stance, i must say that i'm very disappointed with you. i thought you'll turn the whole place upside down like one of your colleagues warned me recently, instead you crying foul and posting charts. Gerrrrrrout jo, and stay out. You have NO business in 'Did God really write the Bible'

mazaje:


According to Isa 17:1, Damascus will be destroyed, but in fact Damascus is one of the few ancient cities that has never been destroyed. [The fact that so many were destroyed makes prophecies of the future destruction of ancient cities rather unremarkable.] If Isaiah had predicted that Damascus would never be destroyed, then that would have been remarkable.

Opinions are divided on this one. Some scholars say that this happened when Tiglath-pileser III attacked damascus, captured it, put Rezin to death, and exiled many damascenes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_III?wasRedirected=true

Other scholars believe that the assyrian assualt affected only the inhabitants and not the city itself and that the prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.

Like i said before, that a prophecy is yet to happen doesn't make it untrue.

According to Isa 19:5, Eze 30:12,
and Zec 10:11, the Nile River will
dry up,

The prophets here employee the figure of the Nile's drying up as a hyperbole to show the extent of the disaster due to come upon Egypt as a result of God's judgments against the nation. The Nile's failure would not only cripple agriculture and rearing of animals but also damage the fishing industry and the production of linen.

and according to Eze
29:9-12, Egypt will become
desolate for 40 years, with no
man or animal passing through it
and with all Egyptians dispersed,
but as a matter of fact the Nile
River has never dried up and in
the whole history of Egypt no
such calamitous events have ever
occurred

This may have come after Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Egypt(Jer. 43:10-13). Evidence of his defeat of Egypt outside the Bible includes a babylonian text dated to Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year(588 BCE) which mentioned a campaign against Egypt. Unfortunately, secular history does not capture all that happened in the past. But we can be sure that it happened sometime after Egypt's destruction by Babylon.

excanny:

Opinions are divided on this one. Some scholars say that this happened when Tiglath-pileser III attacked damascus, captured it, put Rezin to death, and exiled many damascenes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiglath-Pileser_III?wasRedirected=true

Other scholars believe that the assyrian assualt affected only the inhabitants and not the city itself and that the prophecy is yet to be fulfilled.

Like i said before, that a prophecy is yet to happen doesn't make it untrue.

All these stuffs are not even prophecies by the way, because most of the things written in the bible were written long after the events had happened, a simple reading of the bible will tell you that is a recollection of old events and the authors were not even relating events they witnessed that's why you see phrases like "up till this day" signifying that the writer was narrating something that happened long ago.

The prophets here employee the figure of the Nile's drying up as a hyperbole to show the extent of the disaster due to come upon Egypt as a result of God's judgments against the nation. The Nile's failure would not only cripple agriculture and rearing of animals but also damage the fishing industry and the production of linen.

You are the one that is employing the use of a hyperbole to help you explain away a false prophecy that never happened . . . . .You are giving the passage your own interpretation and opinion which does not even count for anything. . . . .

This may have come after Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Egypt(Jer. 43:10-13). Evidence of his defeat of Egypt outside the Bible includes[b] a babylonian text dated to Nebuchadnezzar's 37th year(588 BCE) which mentioned a campaign against Egypt.[/b] Unfortunately, secular history does not capture all that happened in the past. But we can be sure that it happened sometime after Egypt's destruction by Babylon.

Endless speculations, eh?. . . . . . .So a Babylonian text that mentioned a campaign against Egypt means that Egypt was desolate for 40 years as the bible wrongly stated, eh?. . . .Secular history does not capture all that happened in the past but biblical history does, eh? why then is the bible not used as a history book in serious places or institutions of learning?

excanny:

This is not true. All that
remains of the original ancient
famed city of Babylon today is a
mound, or tell, of broken mud-
brick buildings and debris in the
fertile Mesopotamian plain
between the Tigris and Euphrates
rivers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon?wasRedirected=true

It is very true, people still live in Babylon today despite the bible saying that no body will ever leave there again. . . . .Your link says that all that remains of the ancient city are broken mud brick buildings etc, but then says that the ancient city has been reconstructed and is now part of a city in Iraq. . . . . . .

. . . other flaws include the Tower of Babel.

Genesis 4:12, Cain is to be a vagabond and a fugitive.
then in gen 4:17, he bulids a city!

mazaje:

It is very true, people still live in Babylon today despite the bible saying that no body will ever leave there again. . . . .Your link says that all that remains of the ancient city are broken mud brick buildings etc, but then says that the ancient city has been reconstructed and is now part of a city in Iraq. . . . . . .

mazaje:

It is very true, people still live in Babylon today despite the bible saying that no body will ever leave there again. . . . .Your link says that all that remains of the ancient city are broken mud brick buildings etc, but then says that[b] the ancient city has been reconstructed and is now part of a city in Iraq[/b]. . . . . . .

Some years ago, Iraq’s ruler
styled himself as the successor to
King Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon’s
ancient ruler. He even struck a
commemoratory gold medal
depicting himself and
Nebuchadnezzar. He made plans
to rebuild Babylon, and make it
a world-famous tourist
attraction. In the plans were
luxurious hotels, restaurants, a
beautiful palace, plus other
attractions. Construction was
started, but was halted by the
Persian Gulf War. The site was
used as a military staging area.
All ideas of a tourist attraction
were abandoned.

http://e-gracenotes.org/article.php?id=466

Where's Saddam Hussein today?

mazaje:

All these stuffs are not even prophecies by the way, because most of the things written in the bible were written long after the events had happened, a simple reading of the bible will tell you that is a recollection of old events and the authors were not even relating events they witnessed that's why you see phrases like "up till this day" signifying that the writer was narrating something that happened long ago.

I think we should all hold you responsible for that error. You brought the verse here as one of your supposedly 'failed' prophecies.

Kay 17:

. . . other flaws include the Tower of Babel.

Genesis 4:12, Cain is to be a vagabond and a fugitive.
then in gen 4:17, he bulids a city!

The city that Cain built is not the same as the Tower of Babel. The Tower of Babel was built after the Flood by Nimrod(Gen. 10:9, 10; 11:1-9
)


I understand how you feel about religion, but please seperate the Bible from Christendom, and know the Truth.

I know that Cain did not build the tower, I simply gave two examples: the tower and Cain's supposed wanderings, as more flaws in the bible.

Act is a proof against such an opinion.

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While you ruminate on Jesus and His Father's stance, i must say that i'm very disappointed with you. i thought you'll turn the whole place upside down like one of your colleagues warned me recently,

one of "my colleagues"? this guy, you sure say you dey okay so. i see you're seeking to engage in uneccessary e-battle of words; jobless retard. why dont you go make better use of your worthless self by going to fill out job applications instead of seeking male attention online. fagg0t

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Mudley313:

one of "my colleagues"? this guy, you sure say you dey okay so. i see you're seeking to engage in uneccessary e-battle of words; jobless retard. why dont you go make better use of your worthless self by going to fill out job applications instead of seeking male attention online. fagg0t

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Oh you should be capable of making some sense, shouldn't you? Stop acting like a kid, you're not. Grow up

let the bible rest. there is no point tearing it apart more than you atheist have done. dont make it to a paper confetti. please.

Are u making a case for the bible?

mazaje:



According to Isa 34:9-10, Edom (the land between the Dead Sea and Gulf of Aqaba) will become burning pitch: no one will ever pass through it again. But in truth that has never happened to Edom. People have passed through it for thousands of years.

Can you tell me a country today called Edom?

According to Jer 42:17, Jews who
choose to live in Egypt will all die
and leave no remnant. But
history shows that Jews
continued to live there for
centuries, later establishing a
cultural center at Alexandria.

Ofcourse, there were some jews already resident in Egypt before the jews from Jerusalem came to seek refuge in Egypt(and they all met their waterloo there). The already resident jews carried on with their lives to set up the cultural centre at Alexandria. (Jer 24:8-18)

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#58 on: Yesterday at 07:47:15 PM »

Are u making a case for the bible?


Answer; Yes.
Reason: How badly must a thing defeated be mashed up? When its dead, its time to just stop beating it down.


I practice fairness.

Mudley313:

one of "my colleagues"? this guy, you sure say you dey okay so. i see you're seeking to engage in uneccessary e-battle of words; jobless retard. why dont you go make better use of your worthless self by going to fill out job applications instead of seeking male attention online. fagg0t

^^For one who claims to be an atheist: what is it that you have against "fagg0ts"

nopuqeater:

#58 on: Yesterday at 07:47:15 PM »

Are u making a case for the bible?


Answer; Yes.
Reason: How badly must a thing defeated be mashed up? When its dead, its time to just stop beating it down.


I practice fairness.

I see. Did the relevance of John 14&deuteronomy died with it or survived solely? Pls practice fairness in ur response.