Maynman:

According to the function you listed there, why do we have mad people?
Don’t they have brain or mind?

, I'm not a mental health practitioner to answer that question correctly.

Even doctors dont have all the answers . So what can a person like me I say?

triplechoice:


, I'm not a mental health practitioner to answer that question correctly.

Even doctors dont have all the answers . So what can a person like me I say?

That means that list is not correct on the functions of mind and brain.

The mind is the seat of Ego.

Have you noticed that sometimes to ascertain if someone is sane, they first ask that person what his name is?

What do you think a “name” is?

@mayman

Now that you agree you use your mind to think of new ideas, visualize it, how then do you reconcile your response below with what you quoted?

Is it wrong to use one's imagination to create something in the mind and then go on to do things to bring it to fruition.


I couldn't understand the reason behind your comments hence my questions

Maynman:

That means that list is not correct on the functions of mind and brain.

The mind is the seat of Ego.

Have you noticed that sometimes to ascertain if someone is sane, they first ask that person what his name is?

What do you think a “name” is?

Forget this for now. You are not a professional.

Triplechoice stop lying i never “agreed” on anything, all ideas arises from the mind, and if you say not all ideas arises from the mind, then you should be able to think consciously of ideas without the need of a mind.
But if you still need a mind to think consciously and unconsciously, does that not mean all thoughts arises from the mind?

triplechoice:


Forget this for now. You are not a professional.

I don’t need to be a professional to think.
Is aristotle a “professional”?

What a mad man lacks is awareness, he lacks an ego.

triplechoice:

Is it wrong to use one's imagination to create something in the mind and then go on to do things to bring it to fruition.


I couldn't understand the reason behind your comments hence my questions

The mind is abstract, it doesn’t exist, so as your Ego.

I told you to tell me the mental “phenomenon” of the mind, you haven’t, keep changing mouth.

triplechoice:


Thoughts can occur in your mind from a memory of what is already stored in it, but you choose whether to follow its lead or not

Good, so you agree that you and your mind are 2 different things.
It can do something without your permission.

And sometimes you follow its lead or not 😂

Can your leg do something without your permission?

Maynman:

The mind is abstract, it doesn’t exist, so as your Ego.

I told you to tell me the mental “phenomenon” of the mind, you haven’t, keep changing mouth.

Not so Mayman


What you responded to when summarized, simply means,

If you find yourself in difficulty, or looking for solutions, use your mind to think or visualize a solution first, then follow it up by doing things to make it see the light of day. Most people don't this and because of this are stuck where they are .

The phone you have in your hand right now, existed first as imagination in someone's "head", the, inventor, before it was made manifest.

Infact, every creative invention in the world was achieved through the same.

Honestly yoir comments where off in that instance.

Here again below

triplechoice:


Not so Mayman


What you responded to when summarized, simply means,

If you find yourself in difficulty, or looking for solutions, use your mind to think or visualize a solution first, then follow it up by doing things to make it see the light of day. Most people don't this and because of this are stuck where they are .

The phone you have in your hand right now, existed first as imagination in someone's "head", the inventor before it was made manifest.

Infact, every creative invention in the world was achieved through the same.

Honestly yoir comments where off in that instance.

Here again below

Look at the picture again and compare the examples i used and yours.

Did the creator of phones FORCE the imagination?
No prior knowledge, just woke up to imagine a phone?


What’s ticking you exactly?

Maynman:

Good, so you agree that you and your mind are 2 different things.
It can do something without your permission.

And sometimes you follow its lead or not 😂

Can your leg do something without your permission?

Your leg is not the same as your mind/brain. The comparison is wrong.

Or does your leg originate thoughts?

Thoughts occurring in your brain is due to how the mind works. It regularly throws up memories of something already stored in it . That's why we remember.

So what are saying?

triplechoice:


Your leg is not the same as your mind/brain. The comparison is wrong.

Or does your leg originate thoughts?

Don’t you have control over them again

That’s not the function of the leg, something is powerful because of their DUTY.

Don’t you have control over your mind/brain the same way you have over your leg?

Maynman:

Don’t you have control over your them again
That’s not the function of the leg, something is powerful because of their DUTY.

Don’t you have control over your mind/brain the same way you have over your leg?

Does your leg move on its own sometimes?

Mine doesn't

Thoughts occurring in one's head is normal process of how the mind works. The only control you have in such instance is to choose whether to follow through with it or ignore.

But it's not normal when your leg move on its own.

You will need to see a Doctor if that ever happens to you .

Your leg is not the same as your mind/brain

triplechoice:


Thoughts occurring in your brain is due to how the mind works. It regularly throws up memories of something already stored in it . That's why we remember.

So what are saying?

How does the mind work?
You said it’s not physical, how does it work? Are you now a professional?

triplechoice:


Does your leg move on its own sometimes?

Mine doesn't

Thoughts occurring in one's head is normal process of how the mind works. The only control you have in such instance is to choose whether to follow through with it or ignore.

That’s because i have total control over my leg.

So you now see that you don’t have total control over your mind?
And sometimes your mind do overcomes you!

How does the mind work?

triplechoice:


Your leg is not the same as your mind/brain

My leg is not the same as my hand too, I don’t have total control of my mind like i do with my leg, do you understand now?

I don’t have to choose like i do with my mind.

How does the mind work?

triplechoice:


Thoughts occurring in one's head is normal process of how the mind works.

So all thoughts arises from the mind, and thoughts are the work of the mind?😂

Maynman:

That’s because i have total control over my leg.

So you now see that you don’t have total control over your mind?
And sometimes your mind do overcomes you!

How does the mind work?

Legs don't move on their own . You use them to move about
So they idea of controlling them like the brain only exist in your imagination.


Somettimes stubborn thoughts can keep reoccurring in your mind and your struggle to shake them off or exert control
This doesn't happen with legs .They don't ever pull you to move you about



Your comparison is wrong.

triplechoice:


Legs don't move on their own . You use them to move about
So they idea of controlling them like the brain only exist in your imagination.


Somettimes stubborn thoughts can keep reoccurring in your mind and your struggle to shake them off or exert control
This doesn't happen with legs


Your comparison is wrong.

Legs don’t move on their own because i have control over it.
Like you said thought occur on their own with or without your control.
How can you have stubborn thoughts if you have CONTROL over it?
Who is bringing the stubborn thoughts?
Who is controlling it?

So you see you don’t have total control of your mind.

My comparison is correct.
I have TOTAL control over my LEG, you don’t have TOTAL control over your MIND.
Sometimes your mind do overcome you, how possible


How does the mind work?

triplechoice:




Somettimes stubborn thoughts can keep reoccurring in your mind and your struggle to shake them off or exert control
This doesn't happen with legs .They don't ever pull you to move you about

So between your mind and leg, which one do you have total control over?


How does the mind work?

Maynman:

Legs don’t move on their own because i have control over it.
Like you said thought occur on their own with or without your control.
How can you have stubborn thoughts if you have CONTROL over it?
Who is bringing the stubborn thoughts?
Who is controlling it?

So you see you don’t have total control of your mind.

My comparison is correct.
I have TOTAL control over my LEG, you don’t have TOTAL control over your MIND.
Sometimes your mind do overcome you, how possible

OK. May man's leg is the same as his brain. They function the same way.

His legs sometimes try to move him about and so he has to control it.

triplechoice:


OK. May man's leg is the same as his brain. They function the same way.

His legs sometimes try to move him about and so he has to control it.

So you now agree you don’t have full control of your mind?
And it can OVERCOME you

Triplechoice you have already agreed that you don’t have total control of your mind, shikena

triplechoice:


OK. May man's leg is the same as his brain. They function the same way.

Mayman is my nickname, and i have a leg and i also have a brain same way i have a house and a car but I am neither any of these.
I am not a leg.
I am not a hand.
I am not a brain.
I am not a house.
I am not a car.
And i am not a nickname.

triplechoice:


His legs sometimes try to move him about and so he has to control it.

The reason why you are controlling your mind is because it’s moving on his own?

Maynman:

So between your mind and leg, which one do you have total control over?


How does the mind work?

My legs don't move of their own accord.
So the idea of controlling them is crazy talk

I use them whenever I choose to. This is not the same with brain .

As I type this my brain is involuntarily controlling other organs in my body without me consciously doing anything about it.

My mind ,thoughts, can also trigger other body parts through the brain. Uncontrolled erections you sometimes have .Lol


Not so for legs

Why do you find it difficult to understand this beats me

triplechoice:


My legs don't move of their own accord.
So the idea of controlling them is crazy talk

I use them whenever I choose to. This is not the same with brain .

As I type this my brain is involuntarily controlling other organs in my body without me consciously doing anything about it.

My mind ,thoughts, can also trigger other body parts though the brain. Uncontrolled erections you sometimes have .Lol


Not so for legs

Why do you find it difficult fi understand this beats me

Don’t you need your brain to move your legs?
Why is your brain not “involuntarily controlling” your legs to move?
You still have to control your own legs to move why is that not same with your mind?
How come thought comes to you without thinking about it?

You keep contradicting yourself.

And we are talking about mind not brain, keep changing mouth.

triplechoice:


As I type this my brain is involuntarily controlling other organs in my body without me consciously doing anything

What is controlling the brain?

Maynman:

Don’t you need your brain to move your legs?
Why is your brain not “involuntarily controlling” your legs to move?
You still have to control your own legs to move why is that not same with your mind?
How come thought comes to you without thinking about it?

You keep contradicting yourself.

And we are talking about mind not brain, keep changing mouth.

This thread has been a very quite place . I don't want to derail it.

For the last time, I'm not changing mouth but telling you that your comparison is completely off.

Legs don't have the mechanisms to either produce thoughts on their own or help us generate any.You don't use your legs to think.

So what are you. comparing

When people talk of controlling their minds, they are actually referring to thoughts,
and not the mental structure or brain which it arises from or can be used to create it.

And one way people can control their thoughts, is by placing their attention elsewhere.

How have you ever tried to control your legs just like your thoughts. Tell me?

And when was the last time you hear anyone saying "I can control legs not to move "

Or maybe you're referring to the "leg" between your legs. Lol

That's the only one I know you struggle to control all the time.

You are the person changing mouth and running away from answering the main question I ask you about visualization.

It's enough now . Let benodic have back his thread.

Maynman:

What is controlling the brain?

The brain has its own mechanism that controls its functions

triplechoice:


This thread has been a very quite place . I don't want to derail it.

For the last time, I'm not changing mouth but telling you that your comparison is completely off.

Legs don't have the mechanisms to either produce thoughts on their own or help us generate any.You don't use your legs to think.

So what are you. comparing

When people talk of controlling their minds, they are actually referring to thoughts,
and not the mental structure or brain which it arises from or can be used to create it.

And one way people can control their thoughts, is by placing their attention elsewhere.

How have you ever tried to control your legs just like your thoughts. Tell me?

And when was the last time you hear anyone saying "I can control legs not to move "

Or maybe you're referring to the "leg" between your legs. Lol

That's the only one I know you struggle to control all the time.

You are the person changing mouth and running away from answering the main question I ask you about visualization.

It's enough now . Let benodic have back his thread.

🥱
Have you now agreed that you don’t have full control over your mind?

triplechoice:


The brain has its own mechanism that controls its functions

Who is controlling the mechanism?

triplechoice:

How have you ever tried to control your legs just like your thoughts. Tell me?

from mind you change am to brain, you now change it to thoughts.

You are lost!