gobuchinny:


You are greatly deceived. If you think Allah is God then you are confused. Read the Koran. One is an imposter. One is a lie. It's either the Christian God is or Muslim god is. The two are not the same. Please read the Koran.

God is not an author of confusion. He wont say Jesus is the way in the bible and then say Jesus is a prophet only and not the son of God in the bible

jesusjnr:
That you were an ex-muslim don't mean that you are right. Or have you not heard ex-christians deny the existence of God?

The truth is that you seem have misinterpreted the perversions of the faith to mean that Allah is not God but the name of an Arabian idol. Just like saying that Mary the mother of Jesus is no longer authentic, because people worship the idol called "Holy Mary".

I am damn sure about this that Allah is Jehovah the God of Abraham and the Jews, and that He was the one that revealed Himself to Mohammed to perform the promise He made to Abraham concerning making His son Ishmael a great nation, to bring them back to the God of their forefathers, just as He did with Moses in the instance of Israel.

As for my tongues, you can choose to believe it or not, but that is in consonance with what God revealed to me concerning Mohammed and the Islam when I sincerely asked Him questions concerning that.

God bless.

gobuchinny:


You cannot ask God any question in private when you have His word. Have you read it? You must first understand the God of the word before understanding God .

Dont be lazy. You that didnt understand Paul's letters how can you rightly interpret Gods revelations? You are the same person that said Paul is apostate?

You are greatly confused. There r so many information to read up and understand but you choose to be asking questions to God that the answers are already clearly spelt out in the word. The devil will answer you because you became rebellious and wont study to know historical events.

You are lost if you think Allah is God. I used to think d same until I READ THE KORAN.

Study to make yourself approved. A faithful workman rightly dividing the word of truth

Daniel understood by books, The prophets of old were asked to write down so people can read. even Jesus understood by books, the apostles understood by books that the messiah would come. So how dont you wanna understand by books(bible not chemistry book)? Are you special? You wont read and allow the Holy Spirit to interpret but you are asking question? Oga the devil will answer you very well and I can see you have begun manifesting this foolishness.

Be humble and camp with the word

DONT BE LAZY

jesusjnr:
Lol!

I can't ask God questions?

But Paul can, and you're quoting his sayings to prove a point to me?

And you think I'm the one lost and confused here? SMH

No wonder it was said:

Luke 10:21 (KJV)

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

You think it's by studying the letters to show yourself approved eh?

The Pharisees who were blind to the Truth and persecuted Jesus also shared that thought, but it took those who God revealed the Truth to for any man to accept the Truth that Jesus was.

Matthew 16:17 (KJV)

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

You should already see what distinguishes us, for there are somethings that one cannot receive unless it is given them from heaven.

So I fully understand where you are coming from, because your orientation is very much similar to those who God hid those things from as the Pharisees who studied to show themselves approved, but I am as those who don't study to show myself approved, so I'm not surprised why such things are also hidden from you but revealed to me.

And remember Paul who said that also persecuted those of Jesus for ignorance of the Truth despite his studying to show himself approved before Jesus arrested him and revealed the Truth to him.

No wonder the church is dead, when people like you who study to show themselves approved have replaced those who God reveals His Truth to.

So bro continue to depend on books and not Truth, but I would continue to depend on the Spirit of God to reveal the Truth to me.

And I'm very glad that He's revealed the Truth to me concerning who Allah is, and not the lie that whatever the books have revealed to you.

Allah is the Almighty God!

jesusjnr:
Lol!

I can't ask God questions?

But Paul can, and you're quoting his sayings to prove a point to me?

And you think I'm the one lost and confused here? SMH

No wonder it was said:

Luke 10:21 (KJV)

21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

You think it's by studying the letters to show yourself approved eh?

The Pharisees who were blind to the Truth and persecuted Jesus also shared that thought, but it took those who God revealed the Truth to for any man to accept the Truth that Jesus was.

Matthew 16:17 (KJV)

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

You should already see what distinguishes us, for there are somethings that one cannot receive unless it is given them from heaven.

So I fully understand where you are coming from, because your orientation is very much similar to those who God hid those things from as the Pharisees who studied to show themselves approved, but I am as those who don't study to show myself approved, so I'm not surprised why such things are also hidden from you but revealed to me.

And remember Paul who said that also persecuted those of Jesus for ignorance of the Truth despite his studying to show himself approved before Jesus arrested him and revealed the Truth to him.

No wonder the church is dead, when people like you who study to show themselves approved have replaced those who God reveals His Truth to.

So bro continue to depend on books and not Truth, but I would continue to depend on the Spirit of God to reveal the Truth to me.

And I'm very glad that He's revealed the Truth to me concerning who Allah is, and not the lie that whatever the books have revealed to you.

Allah is the Almighty God!

gobuchinny:

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Blabbermouth:

I respect you and I mean no offences but you still don't get me. There is no qualms in using the word "Allah" with the intent of referring to "Yahweh". But, when you begin to relate/equate Muhammad's Allah to the God in the bible, when you begin to affirm that " Muhammad is a prophet of God" then there is something really wrong.
Have you ever perused the Qur'an? Do you know the kind of blasphemy it contains? Do you know what kind of life Muhammad lived? Havent you heard or you haven't read? That he that does not acknowledge that Jesus is Christ, that person is Antichrist.
As believers, we cannot argue but in love we would enlighten each other.
I can show you the hadith, the verses of the Qur'an, scriptures of the bible that affirms that all that I say is true.
Let love lead, God bless.

Blabbermouth:

Which of the Allah? The one you personalised or Muhammad's Allah?
Ref: 1John 2:21-23

Blabbermouth:
See, inasmuch as I love this Jesusjnr guy, he doesn't relax and listen. I studied the Quran and the amount of blasphemy it contains is unimaginable. The islamic religion is the best crafted Antichrist movement I have seen disguised in light.

jesusjnr:
Mohammed is a true prophet of God, so obviously Mohammed's Allah.

jesusjnr:
Mohammed is a true prophet of God, so obviously Mohammed's Allah.

Blabbermouth:
Yet, He said Jesus Christ is not the son of God.
He claimed Jesus did not die for my sin and yours.
He said Jesus is no one but God's prophet and he even placed himself in an higher heirachy.
When he was visited, he felt it was the devil, intact he believed it was shaytan that came to minister unto him. Do you know?
He was convinced (rather confused) by some men that it wasn't the devil but rather an angel of allah, Do you know?
He took in a 9 year old Aisha, do you know what age the girl was when he knew her?
Do you know of what death Mohammed died?
Do you know he said the earth was flat and the sun sets in a spring of water?
Do you know he couldn't muster a single miracle in the Qur'an?
Do you know Muhammad said we would have eternal penile erections in heaven with women to satisfy us?
Do you know his father's name and what religion his father practiced before his birth?
Do you know his father's name meant "Servant of Allah" and his father was an idol worshipper (his father's god was Allah)?
Do you know what Muhammad used jinns for as per the hadith compiled by his caliphs?
I am provoked right now, and in bitterness do I type this; Muhammad is not of God.

MuttleyLaff:
Let me tell you whats going on in here. jesusjnr is a komfam loose cannon, and tbh with you, there is nothing to love in any jesusjnr guy with a dark heart and ugly soul.

From one unrepentant poor tormented false self-proclaimed fake sorry arse prophet validating another. Smh

Blabbermouth:
He seems to be convinced that he is recognized by God, but all that keeps ringing in my ears when I see his write ups are Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 14:36-38.
How come then? Is it possible the kind of revelations he receives are from a kind of dark spirit that disguises as an angel of light?

Blabbermouth:

Yet, He said Jesus Christ is not the son of God.
He claimed Jesus did not die for my sin and yours.
He said Jesus is no one but God's prophet and he even placed himself in an higher heirachy.
When he was visited, he felt it was the devil, intact he believed it was shaytan that came to minister unto him. Do you know?
He was convinced (rather confused) by some men that it wasn't the devil but rather an angel of allah, Do you know?
He took in a 9 year old Aisha, do you know what age the girl was when he knew her?
Do you know of what death Mohammed died?
Do you know he said the earth was flat and the sun sets in a spring of water?
Do you know he couldn't muster a single miracle in the Qur'an?
Do you know Muhammad said we would have eternal penile erections in heaven with women to satisfy us?
Do you know his father's name and what religion his father practiced before his birth?
Do you know his father's name meant "Servant of Allah" and his father was an idol worshipper (his father's god was Allah)?
Do you know what Muhammad used jinns for as per the hadith compiled by his caliphs?
I am provoked right now, and in bitterness do I type this; Muhammad is not of God.

jesusjnr:
Please don't be provoked bro, because it appears you mean well, so I'd advise you channel that passion towards loving God and serving His interest instead of hating Islam and Mohammed.

Because even Paul who many now love and esteem more than Jesus, probably did and said worse things concerning Jesus than Mohammed ever did, and was the chief persecutors of His followers before he was arrested by Jesus.

And Paul wasn't a Muslim but a Judaist who worshipped the same God as Jesus.

The reason I asked you to share with me those things you were speaking about Mohammed or the Koran, was for me to see if they were things I already knew about them or what I didn't know. But i was right for most of the things you said I already knew them concerning him.

And I knew the beginning when angel Gabriel appeared to him and taught him how to read. And then later on when Satan began trouble him and almost made him to throw himself over a hill and commit suicide, before God intervened and told him it was the devil.

And some of the severe persecutions and deaths they had to endure from their own people, because they were going contrary to the idol worship of their land etc.

So I already knew most of those things, but as I said, where most of us get it wrong is comparing Islam to Christianity instead of Judaism which is the same standard and Abrahamic covenant with it.

Because if you do so then you would have issues because Christianity is an upgrade of both Islam and Judaism, because of the single factor of Jesus.

But if you use Judaism instead, you'd see that there's no much difference, for ever before Islam ever came into existence, Jesus was rejected, persecuted, almost stoned, almost thrown headlong down a hill, blasphemed against, framed up, mocked, and condemned to death by Judaists.

And you also know what happened to His followers, Stephen was stoned to death, Peter and John were beaten and shamed, and there arose serious persecution against the church that they were being committed to prison etc. And it wasn't muslims behind the serious persecution the church suffered but Judaists, yet that didn't make the God of Judaism to be different from the God of Jesus or of the Christians.

So that's my point with Islam, the Koran and Mohammed, because if you compare them with the Jews who are also of the Abrahamic covenant, you'd see that they are very similar, because that is the covenant that God is using as the standard for the first stage of Islam, before He brings them to the knowledge of Jesus just as it was in the instance of Israel.

So that's why He hid the knowledge concerning Jesus from Mohammed, for the time of that revelation in God's plans for Islam had not yet come.

I know it's not going to be easy, but I am trying to follow God, because God has a plan for Muslims just as He has for the Judaists concerning His Son Jesus.

Thanks.

jesusjnr is right now gone to look for dirt to dig up on your moniker to throw mud sling at you

jesusjnr:
Because I'm now aiming for God's heart.

Though it initially used to be heaven because the last thing I wanted to do, was to end up in hell. But when I began to walk with God and got to know Him, I was like, what?

Are you kidding me?

Is this what I have been missing all this while?

To be honest, I wish I had gotten to know Him much much earlier, and if possible all through my whole life, because God is the best thing that I had ever known and the best thing that had ever happened to me, past, present and even future.

And that is not flattery by any means, infact it's a huge understatement, as mere words cannot even describe Him. He's just too good to be true.

And I began to see why those that truly got to know Him in the past, wouldn't trade Him or His position for anything else, but would do or give anything to keep Him, because God just too much, walahi. So once you truly get a taste of Him, you'd never want to let Him go, because you become hooked for life, and just can't get enough of Him.

So despite that God wasn't my original my target, having come to know Him, He has won over my heart, soul and mind, that my target is now to please Him and be as close to His heart as possible.

That's why my target is no longer heaven, but He who dwells in it.

God bless.

P.S. Been doing this for over seventeen years now, and still counting.

amyblessed:


Hello jesusjnr, longest time. I can see you have not let go this your constant arguments. #smiles. How is life with you?

jesusjnr:
Hi sis. Where have you been?

I can see that you and Zither have both not repented of your unfounded sentiments. (Yes he was here with same old)

But nice to have you back regardless.

As you can see, I'm still firing on all cylinders as usual, to the glory of God and to the shame of the devil.

Thank you and God bless.

amyblessed:


Chai! jesusjnr you will never change o. You have brought Zither again when I have even forgotten those things. Well, your sis is fine by God's grace. I have been around just that I lost the appetite to frequent this forum due to some things.

MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth, can you now see how jesusjnr is looking for leprosy, earnestly looking God's trouble, hmm? .

Do you notice how he took on the serpent's sly, cunning and deceitful nature by answering evasively, majority of your questions to him. He even further is making excuses, all in attempts to have Mohammed validated and legitimized, but nobody, because of bread, calls a dog or monkey bros now.

amyblessed:


Chai! jesusjnr you will never change o. You have brought Zither again when I have even forgotten those things. Well, your sis is fine by God's grace. I have been around just that I lost the appetite to frequent this forum due to some things.

jesusjnr:
Please don't be provoked bro, because it appears you mean well, so I'd advise you channel that passion towards loving God and serving His interest instead of hating Islam and Mohammed.

Because even Paul who many now love and esteem more than Jesus, probably did and said worse things concerning Jesus than Mohammed ever did, and was the chief persecutors of His followers before he was arrested by Jesus.

And Paul wasn't a Muslim but a Judaist who worshipped the same God as Jesus.

The reason I asked you to share with me those things you were speaking about Mohammed or the Koran, was for me to see if they were things I already knew about them or what I didn't know. But i was right for most of the things you said I already knew them concerning him.

And I knew the beginning when angel Gabriel appeared to him and taught him how to read. And then later on when Satan began trouble him and almost made him to throw himself over a hill and commit suicide, before God intervened and told him it was the devil.

And some of the severe persecutions and deaths they had to endure from their own people, because they were going contrary to the idol worship of their land etc.

So I already knew most of those things, but as I said, where most of us get it wrong is comparing Islam to Christianity instead of Judaism which is the same standard and Abrahamic covenant with it.

Because if you do so then you would have issues because Christianity is an upgrade of both Islam and Judaism, because of the single factor of Jesus.

But if you use Judaism instead, you'd see that there's no much difference, for ever before Islam ever came into existence, Jesus was rejected, persecuted, almost stoned, almost thrown headlong down a hill, blasphemed against, framed up, mocked, and condemned to death by Judaists.

And you also know what happened to His followers, Stephen was stoned to death, Peter and John were beaten and shamed, and there arose serious persecution against the church that they were being committed to prison etc. And it wasn't muslims behind the serious persecution the church suffered but Judaists, yet that didn't make the God of Judaism to be different from the God of Jesus or of the Christians.

So that's my point with Islam, the Koran and Mohammed, because if you compare them with the Jews who are also of the Abrahamic covenant, you'd see that they are very similar, because that is the covenant that God is using as the standard for the first stage of Islam, before He brings them to the knowledge of Jesus just as it was in the instance of Israel.

So that's why He hid the knowledge concerning Jesus from Mohammed, for the time of that revelation in God's plans for Islam had not yet come.

I know it's not going to be easy, but I am trying to follow God, because God has a plan for Muslims just as He has for the Judaists concerning His Son Jesus.

Thanks.

jesusjnr:
Mohammed is a true prophet of God, so obviously Mohammed's Allah.

OkCornel:
There is who God is, and there is what men think who God is.

OP, Please don’t mistake one for the other.

Anas09:

If you loose the appetite to come here then the few sheep remaining shall be eaten up by wolves. I hope you see the damning heresies Jesusjnr preaches? If we all leave here. Who wld care for the sheep?

Satan send his agents who have crept into our midst with false teachings. Biko, no leave.

I wld ve even left Nairaland entirely, as all the people that were here then have all gone except for MuttleyLaff and Olaadegbu, but I stayed back and this is why, the Sheep.

Pls, stay.

Anas09:

Your guy says 'Allah is Jehovah' , What that means is that Jesus is not the son of God because Jesus is not the son of allah.

Allah says he was not born and he has no child, and that anyone who attributes a son to him is an Apostate so shd be killed.

Jesusjnr has just declared Jesus what the muslims say he is, Nothing but an ordinary Human.

When I bin dey talk, una say I dey attack this man. Shey una don dey see am now.

OkCornel:
Jesusjnr, that God blessed Ishmael (which makes up the stock of Arabic nations today) is one thing.


To say that Allah and Yahweh are one and the same entity is another thing.


What is the link between these?

By the way, I've also heard Freeze one numerous occasions saying Allah and God is one and the same. The basis for his argument is that Jesus spoke Aramaic, and in Aramaic, God is translated as Il-Lah or something like that. Still too weak an argument to connect the dots in my opinion. For example, Salaam Alekum (Islam/Arabic) and Shalom Aleichem (Judaism/Hebrew) means the same thing. Yahweh and Allah? What’s the line connecting the dots between them?


Remember, I said there is who God truly is, and there is what man thinks God is. Let's not substitute one for the other. Lest, we might also conclude Odin is God Almighty...and Val-hala is Heaven.

OkCornel:


Did you see me taking sides with the OP on this matter?

Every mallam to their own kettle.

One party strongly believes God has nothing against homosexuality.

One party strongly believes Job was attacked because he didn't tithe.

Another party believes Yahweh and Allah are one and the same.

Yet another party believes God mandates Christians to give monetary tithes,.and if they don't, the devourer will come for them.


Nna mehn, another day another drama.