OkCornel:


See how you conveniently side stepped my questions

1) God killed Onan for spilling his seed on the ground. Men are doing this very well today, why isn't that same God striking men dead for doing so?

2) Oh, now it's now a "Israeli Civil Law" for a man to inherit his dead brother's wife. And this law came from God that never changes abi?

3) Why aren't Christians slaughtering their enemies like their Judaistic brothers did back then?

I repeat, God has never changed. It is the way men see, perceive and understand Him that changes over time.[/quot] the God of the bible both in the new testament never change in his character or nature.


[quote]and ask yourself why polygamy was acceptable in Judaism, but not tolerated in Christianity. Open your head and think.

And by the way, I am sure you can clearly see me disputing with Jesusjnr on Yahweh and Allah being one and the same being...but oh no, you are playing the ostrich to that.

solite3:
God has season and time for everything by the way who told you God doesnt strike men dead like before? Every sinner has its time for some their judgment comes very fast while for others it takes longer time.

solite3:


Israel's laws has different dimension, this shows your ineptitude concerning biblical issues.

solite3:

israelities slaughtering their enemies is justice on wicked nations without it israel cannot stand as a nation they didnt kill to spread their religion. christianity has a different purpose

solite3:


polygamy was a tradition inherited from older generations in the old testament God even discourage it.

solite3:

both you agree with him that the bible is not the written and complete word of God and you also agree with him against the gospel of Jesus Christ.
You are just like him.

Anas09:

My main issue in all of this Islam/Christian dichotomy is who Jesus is to both allah and YHWH.

YHWH from Adam had prophesied the birth of a Seed that wld save mankind from sin. That never changed through the years and from the mouth of different prophets who lived in different generations.

Angel Gabriel named that Seed 'Jesus', stated His mission on earth.

John the Baptist herald and announced him to the world.

Jehovah himself openly, to the hearing of men declared 'This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased'.

Jesus called Jehovah His father.

Then 600yrs later, allah appears to Muhammad in the version of an angel Gabriel and declared another version and said Jesus was not the Son but a slave of Allah?

This is the only point where I stand to say, One God, the same angle cannot tell the Israelites a different thing and tell an Arab a different thing.

YHWH CAN NOT LIE.
One has to be an impostor.

OkCornel:


Exactly.

The problem here is, Satan is quite good at mixing truth with a few lies to deceive many. The human mind is more often than not vulnerable to believe a cleverly packaged lie when it is mixed with the truth.

Just as how Satan deceived Eve in the Garden:
God says - don't eat that fruit, you will surely die.
Serpent says - eat the fruit you will not die (lie), but your eyes will open and you will be like God (truth).

Man eats and gets chased away. Later God says man is now like us, justifying what Satan earlier said. Yet man died, also proving that satan lied.

Lie (you shall not die)+ truth (you will be like God) = deception

Same old trick Satan keeps playing to deceive humanity.

OkCornel:


Come out clearly nau. Are you telling us that every man that uses the withdrawal method and spill their seed on the ground are sinners?

What a weak arse response. Tell us why the Law from an unchangeable God permits it, but yet, Christianity which originates from this same God discourages inheriting a dead brother's wife/polygamy.

So you are telling us it is perfectly alright for the Jews to slaughter their enemies, and yet the same God through Jesus tells us not to repay our enemies evil for evil?

The bolded part only shows your ignorance.
You mean the same God that told David He would have given him more wives only if he asked? rather than coveting Uriah's wife?

2 Samuel 12 v 7 - 8;

7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul.

8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more.

First off, let us be clear on which Bible you are talking about. The one with 66 books? or the first version of King James Bible that includes the Apocrypha? Or the Ethiopian Bible which is one of the world's oldest bible with over 80 books?

You mean the same Bible where John clearly mentioned that if all the acts of Jesus were recorded, even the whole earth cannot contain the books? And yet, a few set of books is now the COMPLETE WORD OF GOD?

God that has been in existence even way before mankind learnt how to write and record things suddenly has ALL HIS WORDS completely written in a set of books. Try and record all the words God has spoken to every man from Adam up till today, then see how it fits into a few sets of books ehn...

Guy, go and think very well.

Anas09:

I don't regret my stance there Bros.

If you followed that thread from the beginning, you'd notice that i tried to gently correct EnthronedbyGod but he called me a distraction and an agent of satan.

I had to take it out on him the way I did because his actions there didn't depict someone who was interested in projecting Christ.

I don't play Christian, I am a Christian.
And a Christian is a soldier. I am ready and open to any critique.

Praivit:


What you stated here is contrary to what happened there my sister. I was there from the onset so please stop the lies. I thought you had repented from your ways, but you obviously haven't.
I dont hate you please, so don't misunderstand me.
I believe we are all still growing and should learn from our mistakes, but you obviously haven't.
Shalom

solite3:

Genesis 38:9
And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
@bolded the motive behind it made it evil.

solite3:

christianity does not prohibit marrying dead brothers wife.
State your accusation against God, Mr reprobate

solite3:

God directing the jews to slaughter of their enemies was an act of judgment. Are you against God judging sinners?

solite3:

2 Samuel 12:8 does not record God’s approval of polygamy but God’s gift of the possessions that He gave David. The gifts had previously been given to King Saul. Because of King Saul’s sin, which is recorded in 1 Samuel 15:10-23, Saul lost the kingdom given to him by God. Then God gave the kingdom and all of its possessions to David.

solite3:

when you are clueless of which one? There is only one bible and it has 66 books.

solite3:

if they were written right? So it was not written meaning it wasnt part of God's word to man

solite3:

stupidity of the highest level the first law given to moses was written by God's figer, telling you that God is interested in putting down his word in written from so that satanist like you will have no excuse. Keep heaping Judgment on yourself.

solite3:

2 Peter 2:9-10, 18 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Anas09:

You mean I am lying by saying that I tried to call EnthronedbyGod's attention to the fact that he was dwelling to much on demons?
Which one is the lie pls?

Praivit:


My beloved sister in Christ, I'm sorry but I won't respond to you again on this issue.
The facts are there on that thread to speak for itself.

OkCornel:


So why have other men with similar motives not struck down by this same God?

Am I reading this properly? SO YOU ARE TELLING US POLYGAMY IS PERMISSIBLE IN CHRISTIANITY HMMM? Can you give examples of Polygamist christians in the Bible?

Titus 1 v 5-6;
5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

Ephesians 5 v 31;
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Mark 10 v 7-8;
7‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
8[b]and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh[/b]

Please why didn't this same God instruct believers through Jesus to also slaughter their enemies as an act of judgment nau? Abi did God change overnight?

Matthew 5 v 43-45;
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Why are you twisting an obvious truth here? God clearly mentioned through Prophet Nathan that He gave THE WIVES of Saul to David.

2 Samuel 12 v 7 - 8;
7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul.
8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more.

Did God ever condemn Saul or David for polygamy?

Meaning King James was wrong to include other books in the first and original version (1611 KJV)?
Meaning your fellow believers in Ethiopia, Eritrea and the Catholics are carrying falsified bibles. Well done. An eternal God has ALL THE WORDS HE HAS SPOKEN completely written in only 66 books.

Hahaha, wait so the other things Jesus said and did that were not written, those ones are not the word of God because they were not written abi?

Lol, and those things Jesus said, but were not written. He was talking to aliens...not men abi

When I keep saying you think properly, you will shout again. Please how does the first law given to Moses automatically translate to mean THE COMPLETE WORD OF GOD? Can't you see how you giving totally unrelated answers to my queries?

Abi Moses was the only person God spoke to ba? Go and get your thoughts in order, religious zealots only give emotional responses devoid of rational thinking.

And the relevance of this verse to our discussion is what again exactly?

Blabbermouth:

See, inasmuch as I love this Jesusjnr guy, he doesn't relax and listen. I studied the Quran and the amount of blasphemy it contains is unimaginable. The islamic religion is the best crafted Antichrist movement I have seen disguised in light.

solite3:
you lack comprehension. Where did I insinuate christianity support polygamy?

solite3:

Good for you to note that God does not support polygamy both in the old and new testament.

solite3:

You pretended like your were a Christian to decieve simple people. Please where did you hear that commanded the Israelites to slaughter all their enemies?

solite3:

The difference between christianity and the israelities is base on the covenants.

solite3:

the fact God permits polygamy does not make it his original plan.
Polygammy was a way to protect women against the alot of vices of those times.
But God himself discourages it because for Kings of Israel because it would be a trap for them, after the death of saul, the best thing was to hand his wives to david so he would take care of them.

solite3:

yes king james was wrong in including those other books thank God, God led them to remove them.

solite3:

Ethopian churches has fallen a long time ago. Roman catholic religion is a false religion.

solite3:

The 66 books of the bible is the complete word to man today. Yes the bible contains all of God's words, if God speak at any other time it must be in agreement of what is already written. In Christianity we dont go beyond what is written.

solite3:

which thing Jesus said that was not written, can you tell me?

solite3:

your brain is not working well, where did I say what was given to moses was the complete bible?

solite3:

you son of belia, talking about reasoning even animals have more reasoning than you.

solite3:

You think you will go free? Men will give account of all their works, thoughts and words before God. You insulted yahweh because you just like jesurjnr hates the truth.

OkCornel:


Look at what you said in the screenshot some moments ago. You don dey change mouth again abi?



Seems you are still struggling with the basics here. So which God was prophet Nathan talking about that gave David the WIVES OF SAUL? Abi that one is not polygamy ni?






Can you start by reading Numbers 31? then put that side by side with Jesus' instructions in Matthew 5 v 43-45;

Infact, I'll put those two passages in my next post.



A God that never changes gives one covenant where killing of enemies is justified, and yet gives another covenant where you repay your enemies good for evil.

DID GOD CHANGE? OR WAS IT MAN'S VIEW OF HIM THAT CHANGED OVER THE YEARS?









What are you saying here? Wait so those vices in those times that justified polygamy back then, according to you are totally absent today abi?

I love how this goal post is shifting First you said God is against polygamy in the Old testament, yet you are also saying God permitted it. God permitted something He is against, very interesting







God led who to remove which books?


The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo church fell at which time? Wetin this guy dey talk?


The same 66 books that said if all the acts of Jesus were written, the whole world will not contain the books. Those 66 books are now the complete word of God. This is real comic relief mehn.






Why not ask apostle John and the other eye witnesses?

John 22 v 25;
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.




It is increasingly obvious I am discussing with a religious zealot who is incapable of rational thinking.
Go through the second screenshot and tell me how the Law of Moses in anyway addressed the issue I raised.



Yet more thoughtless emotional outbursts from a religious zealot.





Tell us where I have insulted Yahweh. You have only displayed zealotry here, no rational thinking at all.



GOD HAS NEVER CHANGED, IT IS MAN'S VIEW OF GOD THAT KEEPS CHANGING. Get that into your head, religious zealotry will take you nowhere.

solite3:


Sorry I dont go round in circles

OkCornel:


More like, you have nothing sensible left to say...except for more emotional outbursts and insults

solite3:

Your posts were not sensible.

OkCornel:


It cannot be sensible for those who have traded understanding for religious zealotry.

Proverbs 4 v 5-7;
5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

solite3:


In the era of the prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah. God seemed to reasoning back and forth with Israel and by extension humanity...like a father would reason with a bull-headed teenager

Bolded where words of one that clearly lacked wisdom.
What God said through the prophets were back and forth reasoning.
Even the devil quote the bible you are his servant is not an exception.
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

It is clear okcornel doesnt believe the bible is the inspired word of God, the bible has withstood more opposition than you offer but it overcome,
Like it or not the bible is the complete inspired word of God and will remain so.

Anas09:

Ah, the mad man.
Hope you know Islam does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God?

The next thing wld be for you to deny that Jesus is God and then change your moniker.

Zither:


Seriously, you have spare time for that preacher of heresy. His delusion has progressed by leaps and bounds. Been a while, Anas. Hope you are good.

Praivit:


My beloved sister in Christ, I'm sorry but I won't respond to you again on this issue.
The facts are there on that thread to speak for itself.

Anas09:

Ah, the mad man.
Hope you know Islam does not believe that Jesus is the Son of God?

The next thing wld be for you to deny that Jesus is God and then change your moniker.

Praivit:


What you stated here is contrary to what happened there my sister. I was there from the onset so please stop the lies. I thought you had repented from your ways, but you obviously haven't.
I dont hate you please, so don't misunderstand me.
I believe we are all still growing and should learn from our mistakes, but you obviously haven't.
Shalom

Anas09:

If you loose the appetite to come here then the few sheep remaining shall be eaten up by wolves. I hope you see the damning heresies Jesusjnr preaches? If we all leave here. Who wld care for the sheep?

Satan send his agents who have crept into our midst with false teachings. Biko, no leave.

I wld ve even left Nairaland entirely, as all the people that were here then have all gone except for MuttleyLaff and Olaadegbu, but I stayed back and this is why, the Sheep.

Pls, stay.

OLAADEGBU:


We praise the Lord for the Chief Shepherd of our souls.

Anas09:

I'm good my dearest. How are you too?

Happy New Month.

I'm great . Happy new blessed and prosperous month to you. Took a leave as I was unable to endure the repulsive ignorance of the likes of jesusjnr and other misguided folks. However, you stayed. Really commendable. There is yet hope for them. Stay blessed, Anas, and have a wonderful month ahead.

jesusjnr:
I'm not surprised that she lied that EnthronedbyGod called her an agent of Satan, because that's the typical anas09 for you.

A true christian can have differences with his fellow christian, but for a Christian to have to resort to lies and false allegations as Anas09 does at every opportunity is not just unchristlike, but ungodly.

When I saw her do that severally to me, even when it was uncalled for, it made me realize that she was surely not of God, because those who are truly of God don't lie against someone at any opportunity just to nail the person regardless of how they hate that person. I mean she could have just accused me with just truth me never lies.

But I've come to realize that resorting to lies and false allegations against someone she hates is just anas09 being her true self.

Anas09:

You calling me a liar is like Satan calling the Lord Jesus a liar. Shd I be surprised?

Now you are propagating Islam, all the questions I asked you fell on deaf ears but you found time to keep mentioning me like a broken record.

Nicolai the false teaching what has finally exposed himself by preaching the satanic gospel of allah.

Why not answer me Jesusjnr, who is Jesus to allah according to the koran you now preach?

jesusjnr:

If there was ever a chance of any one of us ever becoming an atheist and deny Jesus is the Christ, it is a hundred percent you, for there's no chance in hell for that to happen with me

jesusjnr:

Keep deceiving yourself and those who blindly fall for your many deceits and lies.

jesusjnr:

Calling someone "mad" is a trait of the Antichrist Pharisees.

John 10:20 (KJV)

And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

John 8:48 (KJV)

jesusjnr:

Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

John 8:52 (KJV)

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

John 8:49 (KJV)

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

Jesus called many names but never used the word "mad"! He was the one that was called "mad" many times for "having a devil" means the same thing as being "mad".

So you are continuing to prove how Antichrist you are.

.

Anas09:
Demon possessed mad man.

Oh yeah? A minute ago you were the only righteous believer in Nairaland, now you heard the Lord telling you that he indeed is the same as allah.
What if you sleep this night and he tells you that he didn't exist, won't you wake up and declare him nonexistent?

After all your focus now is longer heaven. What will be your next revelation? Heaven and hell doesn't exist? Jesusjnr, I see through you so clearly.
I will be here watching you.


Shouldn't you be quoting the koran now?

This is why I say you are mad. Pls treat this mental illness before you go naked on the streets.