studentofTruth:


There are no Levites in Christendom!

There are Levites still around, their bloodline did not die completely.
They are the descendants of the Levi tribe of Jewish origin, they are in Jerusalem as we speak and certainly do not get any tithes from these pastors!

Shut up.

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Hear Jesus:

Mark 3:1-6 New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Heals on the Sabbath
Another time Jesus went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand,
“Stand up in front of everyone.”
Then Jesus asked them, “Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they remained silent.
He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus.


Jesus apparently broke the law of Sabath but for a greater good. You are a bloody Pharisee

You're just dumb and stupid.

alBHAGDADI:


What I typed sounds very bitter to all those critics, but it's the truth which is always bitter. The Reverend's words sounded sweet and pleasing to them because they are lies and lies are always sweet. That is just how the anti-christ will deceive many. He will tell them sweet lies and they will embrace it against the word of God

OkCornel:
And yet another tithe debate.

The more you love God and your neighbor, the more you will give to help with the things of God and the welfare of others, be it your money, your time, your talents, even down to the excess possessions you hold.

You are not giving because of what you’re expecting in return, which is a selfish and childish way of thinking.


You are giving because the Holy Spirit has replaced (or replacing) your selfish nature with the fruit of love, which is a selfless nature.


You will eventually see the joy in giving, not because of what you’re expecting from God, but for the joy that comes with putting a smile on God’s face for promoting His kingdom, and solving the challenges of others.

And in that, we can truly say "THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN"


Happy Sunday everyone.

I agree with u totally. Your submission above is the reason why 'tithing' as it was done in the old testament is no longer valid. For a man that pays 10% of his earnings every month does so to fulfill the law but not because of the love of God.

HabuD:
You have spoken my mind. People should do exactly what the bible commands and don't add anything or detract from it to suit man or a situation.

who are the Levites in Nigeria??

clefstone:
I agree with u totally. Your submission above is the reason why 'tithing' as it was done in the old testament is no longer valid. For a man that pays 10% of his earnings every month does so to fulfill the law but not because of the love of God.

Ask yourself this and be honest, who gives 10%

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

pls go and read deutronomy 14:22-27

clefstone:
I agree with u totally. Your submission above is the reason why 'tithing' as it was done in the old testament is no longer valid. For a man that pays 10% of his earnings every month does so to fulfill the law but not because of the love of God.

Well spoken my brother.

mhizsuzzy:


Tithe of those days were food to be kept in storehouse for fullness of the members and not of the pastor

True...so that they will be meat in my house...for everyone, not just a so called pastor.

alBHAGDADI:


They are both in charge of God's house

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

they are the new testament levites , they ar e solely sold out to the kingdom, and they are not have inheritance here chase the things of the world,)God would meet their needs supernaturally and they will have abundance here too via super supplies .But the way and manner our spiritual leaders go about this ain't majorly the proper way sir theres no way thite will hinder a man from making heaven , never never, that's heresy and I abhor that that's carnally and greed we are even not following the formulary we were asked to (that's if thite stillmplays a great role after DEATH AND RESURRECTION , I ALSO HOPE YOU KNOW CHRIST WAS A THITHE OF ALL ONCE PAID AND FOR ALL !

alBHAGDADI:


What you've done is to make it seem like Jesus said we can trample on the laws of God in certain situations. This means that if you are praying to God to show you the way to treat your mother and he hasn't answered, you can go meet a sorcerer, a thing he commands against?

The Sabbath is a day meant for no work. People were meant not to do any work that brings monetary profit. That's why they could take their bath, eat, keep the house clean etc. But trading and doing business was prohibited.

The Pharisees went extreme by preventing every other activities, that's why they were surprised that Jesus healed a man on Sabbath day, something that is not business nor brings monetary profit.

Jesus had to explain to them that Sabbath doesn't prevent them from doing certain things. They simply didn't understand what Sabbath represented.

Helping an accident victim is good but don't call it you paying your tithe. Help the person them go pay your tithe.

Ole.

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Just quoting scriptures yet beating about the bush... Who or what is God's house??! Is the church a building??!... Smh.

alBHAGDADI:


Before tithing was even mentioned to include agricultural produce, it was mentioned as anything one gets as increase. Remember, " Abraham gave a tithe of ALL". All means all, and all is all all means. This shows therefore that money is included in materials that can be tithed.

Also, remember that Pharisee who "paid a tithe of ALL I possess". Jesus didn't condemn him for that but for something else.

you are right tithing should be taken to the house of God

alBHAGDADI:


Yes, God doesn't live in houses built by men, because he lives in Heaven with his presence everywhere. This doesn't mean that he doesn't own buildings by men. If you doubt me, go and desecrate a church and see how your life will turn out.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Jesus told the rich man to sell all his properties. There's no way he would pay tithe from it because it's not an increase. We pay tithe from an addition or increasing, not from selling our belongings.

Yes, the pastor plays a role in keeping God's house, but if his word doesn't go in line with God's word, we are to reject it. It's simply a heresy.



We're you expecting Jesus to pay tithe? He's Good and should never be required to pay tithe. Can you see how wrong you are?

Nobody is saying you shouldn't help the needy. Just don't do it with God's money. Leave that to the church. You guys sound like you truly help the needy. Have you done that this year? How much did you give?




Paying tithe is a MUST. That's why God said you are robbing him when you don't pay. If it's not a must, then it's not robbery. Can you see how wrong you are again?

Donating the tithe somewhere else is the same as withholding it from God who said to bring it to his house in Malachai 3. If you donate it somewhere else, it means you have robbed God for not bringing it to his house.



So because the Bible didn't record that Paul and Peter used the toilet, it now means they didn't?



If I give to the man, I won't call it tithe. My tithe is different.

The Bible said bring your tithe to the gates and give it to the Levite’s, the fatherless, the widows and the needy. So who ever you give your tithe to is your choice, as long as they’re needy and fatherless.

In the Bible, tithes were usually paid once in three years, and on crops and harvest. It was not monthly. I’m not Daddy Freeze o, but if we can change tithes from just crops and animals to money, and change the timeline from once in 3 years to every Sunday, why can’t we change the means through which we are giving to the poor?

Yes, Paul and Peter didn’t use the toilet, cause there was no toilet at that time.

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Seeing christians go after christians on this page fear me o...

The place where Christians gather together with a pastor in charge is God's house. If you want to help the poor please do but tithe is special even Judas iscariot complained about what mary Magdalene gave to Jesus and that it should be sold and given to the poor what did Jesus say?

alBHAGDADI:
This is a pure rubbish teaching coming from a Catholic Bishop of gay kingdom.

Where did God order that we should do what this preacher said with our tithe? Nowhere. What God said in Malachai 3:10 is that we should bring the tithe to his house. He didn't say we should branch somewhere else with it.

Yes, the pastor's idea seems like a reasonably brilliant and kind one, but that doesn't make it right in God's eyes. Remember that the way man thinks is different from the way God thinks.

Man thinks it is a good thing to give the tithe to someone in need of it. But where did God say such about tithe? Nowhere. He only said to bring it to his house and from there it is distributed to the needy.

Think of it this way: You are on your way to the hospital with 100k to pay for your child's medical bills. Suddenly you found a needy man. Be honest with yourself, will you give the money to the needy man to the detriment of your child in the hospital?

I can bet you won't. So why do you now think it is right to give your tithe to the needy man? Remember, it is God's money and you have no right to decide how to help God spend it, especially when he gave you no such order.

Look, don't let people bamboozle you weird scenarios like the one given by the preacher. Always stand by God's command. The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else.

They may even use your child as an example, saying what if your child is sick and the money needed for treatment is equivalent to the tithe money you have, which is your last dime.

What will I say in this case? Give that money to God because it is his. At this point many will be kicking against me. Little do they know that they are kicking against Jesus who said...


Mathew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Why do you think Abraham is referred to as a friend of God today? Because he obeyed God by proceeding to sacrifice his son Isaac as commanded by God. He didn't think twice. But people who are not worthy of Jesus are the ones who will disobey him by doing the thoughts of their heart instead of his word.

Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Your foolishness knows no bounds...

gidjah:
in this era of new testament you mean ?

Yea

Under the new covenant, it is unlawful for the believer who has been baptised into the spirit of Jesus Christ to pay tithe. All believers are priests; priests don't pay tithe.

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Thats the word of God. In Deuteronomy 26 verse 12 the Bible said we should give our tithe to the poor and fatherless. Thats the Bible

erico2k2:

what did the bible refer to as tithe?

The FIRST and the LAST time tithe was ever mentioned in Bible, we see it as a tenth of ALL. It was first mentioned in the Old Testament then lastly mentioned in the New Testament. Both verses talked about the same subject


Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Hebrews 7:2
To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

sexyking1:

Jesus never mentioned tithe in the Bible, but He specifically and emphatically mentioned giving to the poor as the only access to the kingdom of God! But because of your greed and one store church your loots opens all over Nigeria, you embrace that verse in old testament and forsake other verses in the same old testament.

Jesus didn't mention tithe? Are you sure? Below is Jesus saying we shouldn't neglect it nor leave it undone.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV)
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

When you guys fail to accept the truth, you start to say falsehood.

studentofTruth:

And what did you learn from the parable of the Good Samaritan?

Did the Samaritan use his tithe money?

lloyds:
Twisting the Bible to gain cheap popularity. .

Am not a pastor at all, but I read the book of the law.

Cheap popularity?
Fr. John oluoma is actually the most popular priest in Abuja. Now hide your face in cheap shame

I want to ask you just one question

If every pastor you know should die now who will you pay your tithe to?

Thank you my good friend, all this criminals claiming to be men of God preaching tithes here and there will never read this to their congregations rather they will be quoting Malachi chapter 3, arm (god) robbers everywhere

Dozi05:


PLease see the origin of tithing.
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 New International Version (NIV)
Tithes
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.


Read previous chapters to understand why moses made it a law. I dont have strength for tithing arguments this sunday Morning. I dont tithe i do works of charity instead with the money so if you tithe and it works for you go ahead. Besides I have been blessed beyond measures

so what is your understanding to this quote?

alBHAGDADI:


Jesus didn't mention tithe? Are you sure? Below is Jesus saying we shouldn't neglect it nor leave it undone.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV)
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

When you guys fail to accept the truth, you start to say falsehood.

Al BHAGDADI
"The tithe is his, and the only thing you can do with it is to take it to his house, nowhere else."

In line with your submission in the above quote then, the house (temple of God) of God is the body of the believer and not a structure made by human hands.

Therefore, by your own argument, I can use my tithe on my person as I desire: and also on others - which is in line with what God clearly states in the book of Deuteronomy.

Jesus's Great Commission is for His followers to "go ye into all the world, making disciples of all; AND TEACHING THEM ALL THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU" The summary of all the commandments of Jesus is to:
1) love God
2) Love your neighbour to the same standard as you love yourself
3) Treat all, as you would like to be treated. (- in the best manner within your capacity)

Do today's Church ever mention these? I doubt it - except perhaps for the Catholic Church (im Pentecostals, not Catholic).

Clear examples of the first Church are recorded in the book Acts Chapters 2 and 4, where collections were TOTALLY VOLONTARY and 100% applied to the care of the poor and the needy; with the Apostles declining to handle any but choosing to devote themselves to prayer and the ministry.
Which church does that today

Also in the entire ministry of Jesus Christ, He NEVER once collected tithes or offering, neither did he preach them. Instead, he would not only feed the people who attended his crusades but give them take-away meals.

Today, the poor are not only manipulated and exhorted to pay tithes and offering in order to feed the Pastors, they are also scammed and coerced into funding and labouring for free, at their busineses and funding their obscene lifestyle, luxuries and hugh amounts of cash stored away in 'safe heavens' and other tax-evasion schemes.

It was a deliberate thing that Jesus NEVER bought or even rented a boat, Ass a or Camel. Same with the Apostles. As widely travelled as Apostle Paul was, he never bought any either. He paid like any other paying passenger.

That was to set an example for future disciples to follow but trust our people who never fail to take advantage of the vulnerable and plunder them into desolation!
They just have to imitate their Obas, Igwes, Ezes, Emirs and Military dictators, running their own Empires, justifying and securing them by any means necessary!
IMITATING JESUS AND THE APOSTLES IS JUST TOO BORING AND UNPROFITABLE FOR TODAY'S CHURCH BUSINESSES!

Every MOG is preaching the gospel that suits his pocket and his delusions of an Empire.

Those who fail to study the Bible for themselves, especially the NEW TESTAMENT, the miracle chasers, those looking for short-cuts; and the death of their enemies (who are mere stepping stones to goodness and greatness - for the informed and the knowledgeable) are in for a very long thing!

GOD SAID:
1) GET KNOWLEDGE.

2) WHATEVER IT COSTS YOU, GET UNDERSTANDING.

3) TO THOSE WHO HAVE REJECTED KNOWLEDGE L, I, THE LORD, HAVE ALSO REJECTED YOU AND YOUR GENERATION!
(Kindly note that both knowledge and ignorance are generational that is, they can be passed from one generation to the next, etc).

You have made yourselves mince-meat in the hands of MOG aka GOM!!!

Thank you Fr. Chinenye Oluoma for this. Flesh and Blood did not reveal this to you but the Spirit of God. God bless you. God bless the Catholic Church, the One True Church. Amen