horpeyemmi66:


Good God Almighty. Are the following not licenses(given the context) ICAN, ACCA, FWACS, FPSN, FMCDS?

midnighter:


Nobody is gullible. Stop being arrogant in your interactions with people and stop acting as if youre superior to me because I asked for information on a subject that I am unfamiliar with. Were you born a dental student?

If you want to explain something to someone then do it, otherwise dont bother.

By the way, you should remember that you are studying a professional course in which you will also be assessed on your ability to relate with others. Are you going to go about snarking at your patients for asking simple questions?

No need to look down on others over information that you were given for a fee.

angiography:



I am just laughing here at how much he's trying to prove a point he shouldn't have pointed out ab initio.

In my school here, dentistry students rotates medicine and surgery in part 4 with medicine students ...together with path and pharm.

Afterwards, they have nothing in common anymore, medicine students go on to O&G, paediatrics, psychiatry, dermatology, orthopaedics, radiology, in part 5, then medicine, surgery and community health in part 6.

Meanwhile dental students don't rotate with them in these.. Yet he said "dental students don't just do few medicine courses"�

horpeyemmi66:


Madam, if you do not understand a subject/concept/anything kindly ask questions.

You just don't go around online writing stuffs that are in the very least irritating because you feel you have an idea about the subject of discourse.

I have a degree in Physiology from the UI and I'm a Dental Surgery student at the ABU, Zaria. So I know my onions to a large extent which means mikolion87 isn't seeking any cheap publicity for himself, at all.

Dentist/Dental Surgeons are Doctors just like the Medical Doctors. They do ALL courses the Medicine guys do except Obstetrics and Gynaecology. They earn the same remuneration and are as "medically qualified" as the medical doctors.

The exams are usually labelled MBBS/BDS exams. There is no difference in the kind of questions. They are required to attempt the same questions under the same conditions. What's more they earn the same salaries. They belong to the same associations. They are the only two who can be Provost/CMD.

As per the requirements for being an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon. The requirements vary by country. In Nigeria you have to complete a residency in oral and Maxillofacial Surgery. What you stated up there is the Canadian requirement.

horpeyemmi66:

Elouise:


baba he is seeking cheap publicity. TBH, you don't need all these stories and alot of us that have done a bit of clinical dentistry know this. I do not need to downgrade my medical colleagues to make myself look bigger, that shows insecurities. even though I did quite alot of medical stuff, the curriculum was designed that way for me to appreciate and see patients as a whole. if i see an oral manifestation of a systemic disease I can call the attention of a physician to it, the goal is the patient and y'all seem to be forgetting that. even though I had more stuff than my friend i will refer too whilst we were doing rotation. he's got the degree, the experience and he's qualified to treat that's all that matters. stop stroking your egos. you're going to be in the same body stop creating unnecessary animosity!

horpeyemmi66:

Lol. Chill.

In all Mikolion87 has written, what was so difficult and implicit?

You guys can be quite impossible sometimes. You see the truth, it doesn't match your expectations/fantasy, you either discard, disregard or subjugate it.

Doctors are Humanbeings too(some patients can be impossible too!)

Honestly!.

midnighter:


Okay, hopefully he does that because I dont see why people will just be importing drugs anyhow

And people will come here with one kind of rash on their face that they rubbed cream from the chemist and it didnt work. Was that place actually a pharmacy with a licensed pharmacist

Umorosky17:
You are a joker, it's obvious you know nothing about medicine and surgery.

Maid007:

Getting withdrawn after repeating twice doesn't make a course tough..... The bulky nature and how brain tasking a course is, makes it tough.....
Now quote me let's talk about the bulkiness of both courses (med and pharm)

horpeyemmi66:


Dude, I stumbled upon a certain thread concerning Medicine and Dentistry and there you were spewing trash. Here you are again yarning dust. If you do not understand a thing, it costs nothing for you to unlearn and relearn what you think you know.

Some of the things you wrote on that thread make me wonder if the neurons in your cerebrum are still firing.

To argue is not my forté, as I observed you have a knack for arguing. Always looking for an avenue to start a controversy.

Look at the stupid thing you inferred "Nurses know more about Medicine than Dentist". How more inept can you be?

Fyi0:


Ehen... I've quoted you.
Pharmacy is bulkier, more complex and far more tasking than medicine and surgery.

Veterinary medicine is even more tasking than human medicine. These are the facts.

Elouise:
in my school, i rotated through all of internal medicine, surgery, paediatrics and did a bit of radiology but i get your point. i really hate that people always point it out that they did bla bla bla. if my dental degree pay the bills and I'm good at it, hell yeah I'm a dentist and I don't have anyone to prove anything too.

sassysure:
All u guys have complexes.
Pharmacy is bulkier,
Mbs is the same as mbbs,
Mbbs is not the same as mbs.

So very shameful.

Yet, when push come to shove, patients are transported outside Nigeria to be treated by real specialists not people that started with this mindset.

Pharmacist that can't produce malaria tablets or so called medical drs( mostly not specialists), that misdiagnose daily.
Mtcheew.
Bloated egos everywhere

midnighter:


Your training will be wasted if you dont know how to talk to people. 50% of being a healthcare professional is gaining the trust of your patient. "Bedside manner"

All that condescending grammar you are vomiting will not help you when you are face-to-face with a patient who gets offended and reports you to management for your arrogant and facetious behaviour.

I asked a simple question which you started obfuscating all over just to make yourself feel better. Who told you to quote me if I'm so "impossible"?

Very bad. Grammar, vituperations and inanities over a simple question which I asked politely.

sgtponzihater1:


Says someone who has completed Medicine and Surgery, completed all the specialities in Medicine and Surgery then went into pharmacy.

sgtponzihater1:


Nigeria is a Mad house. Most professionals come abroad and experience real culture shock initially.

I have seen Pharmacists who went ahead to study MBBS again, but not the other way round. Something made them unfulfilled and decided to go ahead to study Medicine again. Same with all other health professionals except Dentists.

Fyi0:

I'm not talking about the specialties now. I'm simply putting the undergraduate coursework of both disciplines into perspective.

Fyi0:


What will you gain by peddling false assertions. I have also seen medical doctors that go back to school to get a PharmD.

In the US, 40% of medical schools have pharmacists that are professors of medicine. Not professors of pharmacology.
Professors of medicine, and they didn't acquire an MBBS to do so.
It is not not possible to see a medical doctor who is a professor of pharmacy.

sgtponzihater1:


You have given a percentage and a country. Its smart to give a link or source as proof to your percentage. A pharmacist becoming a professor of Medicine without MBBS. The internet never forgets. Also claiming you know many people that studied Medicine completed it and went on to study PharmD. That's another big assertion too

sgtponzihater1:


Maybe you studied undergraduate Medicine and then studied undergraduate pharmacy.

At least I have a cousin who did pharmacy, then went ahead to study Medicine. If she said this maybe I'll listen. But looking at others and diminishing their efforts over yours is not right.

I studied Medicine but would never wake up to say its tougher than Mechanical Engineering, because I have never been one, though I have several friends and roommates who studied Engineering and came out flying.

However, even If I wanted to compare, I'll use certain empirical yardstick:

1. What is the overall unit hours/Points for Medicine vs Pharmacy. Note this forms the basis of placing people on a scale in Civil service. With credit hours, that of Medicine is often even wrongly counted. Didactic lecture hours running from 8am-6pm with an hour breaks, running into days and months, in part 4 have not been counted adequately. Night duty often with intimidation teachings and bashing by the bedside have been totally discarded, yet these should add to the credit hours.

2. Doing ENT, Opthamology, Dermatology, orthopedics, psychiatry as professional offshoots as well as the core Medicine and Surgery. And reading the very excruciating Robbins and Coltran, while still having to do heamatology, microbiology, chemical pathology and writing professional exams in these is enough pain to see someone diminish other peoples effort.

2. The making of a doctor is well documented on YouTube. It's an award winning documentary sponsored by the German foundation, WHO, etc. You can Google it. Why did they say expressly that Medical School is the most excruciating educational training anyone could attempt. Maybe they know less.

3. Why are on peer to peer basis, Doctors rewarded more per Hour than Pharmacy. Even were I hustle which is a very saner place.

4. From the very beginning, entry requirements and grade of Medicine vs Pharmacy in term of cut off.

In the end stand with what you believe but be empathetic towards other peoples effort. People go through a lot in their field to have their efforts diminish to get yours upgraded. And if you want to, be empirical about it.

Cheers

Fyi0:


1. I'll give an example with the university of Port Harcourt medical and pharmacy schools. Over here, 200 level pharmacy students offer 13 courses in the first semester and 13 courses in the second semester. Medical students offer 5 courses in their first semester and 5 courses (anatomy, physiology, medical Biochemistry, one other course and COMMUNITY SERVICE).
This should give you an insight of the work hours inputted. The pass mark for more than half of pharmacy courses is 60%. Where else would you get that?

2. Have you tried studying pharmacognosy? Having to memorize the pathways and synthesis of various organised and unorganized vegetable drugs? The biosynthesis of natural products? Perhaps you should be told about the much dreaded pharmaceutical and medicinal chemistry courses. Or about the dispensing practical courses where a single mistake can get you out of the faculty.
I need not tell you about pharmaceutical technology or the dreaded pharmaceutical biotechnology practicals.

Which other course do students do IT only on Fridays and Saturdays while at the same juggling it with 14 courses?

2. Spare me that please. A very recent study by Havard University placed engineering as the most difficult course. In the list philosophy was the seventh most difficult course. What do you make of that?

3. Doctors are rewarded more than pharmacists in the hospital. The doctor is rightfully at the helm of affairs in running a hospital. Most pharmacists make multiples of what the doctor makes in their pharmacies. Pharmacists working in the industries, especially pharmaceutical industries get paid more handsomely than a doctor earns in the hospital.

4. Last academic session, the university of Port Harcourt admitted 70 students into pharmacy while 120 candidates where admitted to study medicine.
Pray tell me, which one is more competitive?

Cheers.

horpeyemmi66:
Lady, if you feel I go around with a chip on my shoulder and a air of disgusting hubris, good for you.

ctex4real:
Guys, go back to work, there are bills to be paid. @Midnighter, I love you for your savvy responses.

sgtponzihater1:


You've totally left the fact. Admitting 70 pharmacy student has to do with capacity and not competition. I also attended Uniport some years ago, and even the basic cutting off for Medicine was excruciating. And doing Anatomy, physiology etc is not just, those are several courses marshes up into one. Again I can't compare any two course because I only studied one, and would not use mine to diminish the efforts of others.

bonnyhope:


maybe he crossed over to surgery after 300L in dentistry

angiography:



I am just laughing here at how much he's trying to prove a point he shouldn't have pointed out ab initio.

In my school here, dentistry students rotates medicine and surgery in part 4 with medicine students ...together with path and pharm.

Afterwards, they have nothing in common anymore, medicine students go on to O&G, paediatrics, psychiatry, dermatology, orthopaedics, radiology, in part 5, then medicine, surgery and community health in part 6.

Meanwhile dental students don't rotate with them in these.. Yet he said "dental students don't just do few medicine courses"�

Elouise:
in my school, i rotated through all of internal medicine, surgery, paediatrics and did a bit of radiology but i get your point. i really hate that people always point it out that they did bla bla bla. if my dental degree pay the bills and I'm good at it, hell yeah I'm a dentist and I don't have anyone to prove anything too.

Elouise:


baba he is seeking cheap publicity. TBH, you don't need all these stories and alot of us that have done a bit of clinical dentistry know this. I do not need to downgrade my medical colleagues to make myself look bigger, that shows insecurities. even though I did quite alot of medical stuff, the curriculum was designed that way for me to appreciate and see patients as a whole. if i see an oral manifestation of a systemic disease I can call the attention of a physician to it, the goal is the patient and y'all seem to be forgetting that. even though I had more stuff than my friend i will refer too whilst we were doing rotation. he's got the degree, the experience and he's qualified to treat that's all that matters. stop stroking your egos. you're going to be in the same body stop creating unnecessary animosity!