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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 9:36am On Oct 26, 2019
sgtponzihater1:


Read my word clearly mate. I never said nurses know Medicine more than dentist. I said many nurses know medicine and surgery but it does not make them doctors.

That said Nigeria is still at the prepubertial stage in medical practice, and its a misnormal that MDCN regulates Medicine and dentistry. In the UK Doctors write Plab or MRCP etc, their degree allows them to do so, Dentists write ORE as their own degree allows them to go that way. Medical Doctors can't write ORE because they are not Dentists and are not qualified to go that route, neither can dentist write Plab because they are not MBBS holders and are not qualified to do so. They also cannot write the USMLE steps. They also have totally different regulators GMC( General Medical Council ) for Medical Doctors, and GDC (General dental council) for dental surgeons, and GDC don't claim to be both MBBS and BDS combined. The US also have different regulators, the American Dental association. Never on their site do you see them selling a dual degree structure but dive right into their role. Kindly take away bias when reading through my context.

Cheers

Very funny, my friend hater.. We've been through this before. I remembered you apologized for a whole lot of things you didn't know about dentistry. Here you are again Lol.

First of all, Nurses study "Medical Nursing" and "Surgical Nursing" taught by Nurses. They don't study "Medicine" and "Surgery" so do not rotate or do postings as "doctors" in these fields. Dentists study "Medicine" and "Surgery" taught by Physicians and Surgeons, they rotate in the various units and write exams organized by these Doctors. We're also requested to perform series of procedures while rotating in these units. That is to show you dentists are Doctors too, but followed a different path towards becoming Doctors and specialists.

Secondly, you mentioned regulatory bodies and associations as obtained abroad. At my level, I understand things differently. When you get to this level you'll know better.

Go and read about the history of Surgeons (barber surgeons) and perhaps you'll understand why most dentists are separate.
It shows autonomy and how how really developed the specialty is. In time past, all surgeons follow a different path from physicians (just go and read), it was also for political reasons that dentists still stand alone in their favor.

But in postgraduate, they all unite again in the Colleges of Surgeons.

However, it's not a matter of the association you belong. It's a matter of what you do and who you really are. The titles, the salaries, the work etc all are a proof to who dentists are. I don't want to go into another educational parade of surgical procedures performed by dentists. You probably think it's just scaling and polishing and extraction Lol. Just educate yourself. However still, you may choose to believe whatever you want to believe if it gives you pleasure.

NB: Dentistry is the only specialty of human medicine which has carved out its own niche separate from other specialties, having its own Faculty from undergraduate level, but still involves training in general medicine while specializing at the same time. It shows uniqueness and Growth.

Enjoy

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by angiography(m): 10:58am On Oct 26, 2019
Mikolion87:


I'm tired of educating adamant medical students who feel threatened that there is a course (Dentistry) beginning to pull weight and adjudged to be the most strenuous .

My friend, have you asked yourself what dental students study in their 5th year after they separate with their classmates in Medicine (after part 2 or 3rd mbbs exam). They actually begin the main rotations and lecture series in internal medicine and surgery plus short postings (ENT, radiology, ophthalmology etc) and then write the exam sometimes with the final year medical students or independently as 4th BDS, after which they enter 6th year.

You will never know this because dentists are not interested in the facade of arguments of which course is better. At your level that is probably what you're interested in, but Doctors at our level who know their onions reason in another realm. Physicians and Dental surgeons know they are colleagues and do not concern themselves with such dilapidated talks.

Just face your studies and read so you can become a doctor. When you come to my level, perhaps you'll begin to see things differently.

You all just want to deviate this post by showing your insecurities.. There's no need for that. Learn the lessons and move on.




Loool... Just shut up already. You're embarrassing yourself too much o'er here.
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 11:47am On Oct 26, 2019
Fyi0:


1. I'll give an example with the university of Port Harcourt medical and pharmacy schools. Over here, 200 level pharmacy students offer 13 courses in the first semester and 13 courses in the second semester. Medical students offer 5 courses in their first semester and 5 courses (anatomy, physiology, medical Biochemistry, one other course and COMMUNITY SERVICE).
This should give you an insight of the work hours inputted. The pass mark for more than half of pharmacy courses is 60%. Where else would you get that?

2. Have you tried studying pharmacognosy? Having to memorize the pathways and synthesis of various organised and unorganized vegetable drugs? The biosynthesis of natural products? Perhaps you should be told about the much dreaded pharmaceutical and medicinal chemistry courses. Or about the dispensing practical courses where a single mistake can get you out of the faculty.
I need not tell you about pharmaceutical technology or the dreaded pharmaceutical biotechnology practicals. The intensive pharmaceutics practicals?

Which other course do students do IT only on Fridays and Saturdays while at the same juggling it with 14 courses? I need not even talk about the clinical pharmacy courses and rotations.

2. Spare me that please. A very recent study by Havard University placed engineering as the most difficult course. In the list philosophy was the seventh most difficult course. What do you make of that?

3. Doctors are rewarded more than pharmacists in the hospital. The doctor is rightfully at the helm of affairs in running a hospital. Most pharmacists make multiples of what the doctor makes in their pharmacies. Pharmacists working in the industries, especially pharmaceutical industries get paid more handsomely than a doctor earns in the hospital.

4. Last academic session, the university of Port Harcourt admitted 70 students into pharmacy while 120 candidates where admitted to study medicine.
Pray tell me, which one is more competitive?

Cheers.
I remember when i was in part one, a faculty of science student was trying to tell me that they offer more courses and hence their lectures are tougher, simply because they offer 12 courses in first semester and 11 courses in second semester, while we offered only 4 courses for the whole session....
I had to make him understand that even the maths we do in my class ain't mates with all the math courses they offer in part one (our lecturer drills us as if we are in Mathematics department Lol) ....
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Nobody: 11:55am On Oct 26, 2019
Maid007:

I remember when i was in part one, a faculty of science student was trying to tell me that they offer more courses and hence their lectures are tougher, simply because they offer 12 courses in first semester and 11 courses in second semester, while we offered only 4 courses for the whole session....
I had to make him understand that even the maths we do in my class ain't mates with all the math courses they offer in part one (our lecturer drills us as if we are in Mathematics department Lol) ....
LOL.. Medical students and hype. Nothing come out las las.
Pharmacy courses are more numerous, bulkier and more complex. So?
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Elouise: 12:15pm On Oct 26, 2019
Mikolion87:


I like your view, however it's not wrong if someone decides to actually point out to the massively misinformed public what they actually studied to become Dentists. It's a matter of choice, I do that sometimes to educate people. And I have helped a lot who did not know what dentistry is all about gain admission into dentistry.

But I hate it when some dentists tour the path of Mediocrity. The doctor title given to dentists is not a joke, reason out of the box and don't limit your mind to the teeth, if so patients may die on your watch, that is why you're also trained by Physicians in Medicine. Many envy you because they don't have what you have. Put your knowledge to use or else you'll remain myopic and inferior.

I can only be inferior if I feel inferior, no one can make me.
yeah, I've witnessed "cool" OMFS surgeries. the last one being a mandibulectomy with a fibula graft reconstruction all done by the OMFS team. keeping calm and producing results isn't being inferior. some of y'all chase "glory" too much plus I've never been disrespected by my medical colleagues. No one can.
you seem to be too interested in proving a point and that's the problem. strife to be the best in whatever you do, you can only be know as that good doctor/dentist.
ps: I don't need to convince you about who I am

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Elouise: 12:16pm On Oct 26, 2019
angiography:



Loool... Just shut up already. You're embarrassing yourself too much o'er here.
leave this dude please

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 2:26pm On Oct 26, 2019
Fyi0:

LOL.. Medical students and hype. Nothing come out las las.
Pharmacy courses are more numerous, bulkier and more complex. So?
I am a student of dentistry and dental surgery by the way (just to be clear) ....when u say pharmacy is tougher than MBBS, u are also indirectly bringing BDS into the Picture....

Now, u can't compare a course that writes sessional exams with a course that writes exams in semesters....
U said u offered 13 courses in first semester and another 13 in second semester right?? 13+13=26.... Now, Imagine having to write exams for the whole of those 26 courses at the end of the session...... now that's bulky.....
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Jabarzee(m): 2:45pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maid007:

I am a student of dentistry and dental surgery by the way (just to be clear) ....when u say pharmacy is tougher than MBBS, u are also indirectly bringing BDS into the Picture....

Now, u can't compare a course that writes sessional exams with a course that writes exams in semesters....
U said u offered 13 courses in first semester and another 13 in second semester right?? 13+13=26.... Now, Imagine having to write exams for the whole of those 26 courses at the end of the session...... now that's bulky.....

Are u minding him
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 3:06pm On Oct 26, 2019
Mikolion87:


Very funny, my friend hater.. We've been through this before. I remembered you apologized for a whole lot of things you didn't know about dentistry. Here you are again Lol.

First of all, Nurses study "Medical Nursing" and "Surgical Nursing" taught by Nurses. They don't study "Medicine" and "Surgery" so do not rotate or do postings as "doctors" in these fields. Dentists study "Medicine" and "Surgery" taught by Physicians and Surgeons, they rotate in the various units and write exams organized by these Doctors. We're also requested to perform series of procedures while rotating in these units. That is to show you dentists are Doctors too, but followed a different path towards becoming Doctors and specialists.

Secondly, you mentioned regulatory bodies and associations as obtained abroad. At my level, I understand things differently. When you get to this level you'll know better.

Go and read about the history of Surgeons (barber surgeons) and perhaps you'll understand why most dentists are separate.
It shows autonomy and how how really developed the specialty is. In time past, all surgeons follow a different path from physicians (just go and read), it was also for political reasons that dentists still stand alone in their favor.

But in postgraduate, they all unite again in the Colleges of Surgeons.

However, it's not a matter of the association you belong. It's a matter of what you do and who you really are. The titles, the salaries, the work etc all are a proof to who dentists are. I don't want to go into another educational parade of surgical procedures performed by dentists. You probably think it's just scaling and polishing and extraction Lol. Just educate yourself. However still, you may choose to believe whatever you want to believe if it gives you pleasure.

NB: Dentistry is the only specialty of human medicine which has carved out its own niche separate from other specialties, having its own Faculty from undergraduate level, but still involves training in general medicine while specializing at the same time. It shows uniqueness and Growth.

Enjoy


Read my write up clearly. I haven't said Dentist are not Doctors, nor did I say nurses know more Medicine and Surgery than Dentist. However I maintain MBBS (Medical Doctors) is a totally different professions to Dentistry/BDS(Dental Surgeons).

Cheers

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Nobody: 4:39pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maid007:

I am a student of dentistry and dental surgery by the way (just to be clear) ....when u say pharmacy is tougher than MBBS, u are also indirectly bringing BDS into the Picture....

Now, u can't compare a course that writes sessional exams with a course that writes exams in semesters....
U said u offered 13 courses in first semester and another 13 in second semester right?? 13+13=26.... Now, Imagine having to write exams for the whole of those 26 courses at the end of the session...... now that's bulky.....

During the 1990s and early 2000s in OAU, every student wrote exams just once in a session. Then there weren't semester exams, just sessional examinations. Note that this applied to every student in the university.

Or you mean being given the whole of first semester year three to prepare for MBBS? What more could be better?

I don't really know much about dentistry but I believe even that is harder than the normal medicine and surgery. This opinion is based on the yearly attrition rates in the university (specifically university of Port Harcourt). So I wouldn't really know.
. Pharmacy has the highest attrition rate in UNIPORT. Over the years. Again and again.
To the best of my knowledge you guys don't offer up to 13 courses in a semester.
10 is the least number of courses you would ever offer in pharmacy school (from 200 level up) and that's during second semester final year. Now tell me, what do you make of this?

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by midnighter(f): 4:49pm On Oct 26, 2019
To an extent here is nothing like "tougher" because they are testing different types of skill. You may be a chemistry whizz but still cannot make head or tail of the most basic philosophical theory

Number of places available on a course depends on demand for that course and departmental resources. It has nothing to do with whether the field of study is "difficult" or not

What you will talk about is the amount of material that one needs to grasp within the timeframe

How much of the material is conceptual and how much is rote-learning

How knowledge is tested. Practical, written exams, presentations, written assignments

Real objective comparison and not vain quasi-realistic posturing

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 5:59pm On Oct 26, 2019
midnighter:
To an extent here is nothing like "tougher" because they are testing different types of skill. You may be a chemistry whizz but still cannot make head or tail of the most basic philosophical theory

Number of places available on a course depends on demand for that course and departmental resources. It has nothing to do with whether the field of study is "difficult" or not

What you will talk about is the amount of material that one needs to grasp within the timeframe

How much of the material is conceptual and how much is rote-learning

How knowledge is tested. Practical, written exams, presentations, written assignments

Real objective comparison and not vain quasi-realistic posturing

Wise words there.

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 1:11pm On Oct 27, 2019
sgtponzihater1:


Read my write up clearly. I haven't said Dentist are not Doctors, nor did I say nurses know more Medicine and Surgery than Dentist. However I maintain MBBS (Medical Doctors) is a totally different professions to Dentistry/BDS(Dental Surgeons).

Cheers

I'll take it that you're saying the mouth is different from the body.. Lol. I'm sure you can now see how laughable your premise is.

The whole body functions together. Anything affecting one part can affect the rest.

The only difference I see here is that Dentists begin to specialize early enough while being trained in general medicine as well. Like I said earlier, it shows autonomy and development. Allow me to enlighten you also that, Orthopedic surgery has separated from Faculty of Surgery to have its own Faculty (Faculty of orthopedic surgery) just like Faculty of Dental surgery in the West African College of Surgeons. That shows improvement not inferiority, neither does it mean they are no longer surgeons as the rest.

You're not a doctor so you won't understand these things. But if you're humble enough to learn, you'll be properly guided.

Cheers my friend.

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 1:21pm On Oct 27, 2019
Elouise:


I can only be inferior if I feel inferior, no one can make me.
yeah, I've witnessed "cool" OMFS surgeries. the last one being a mandibulectomy with a fibula graft reconstruction all done by the OMFS team. keeping calm and producing results isn't being inferior. some of y'all chase "glory" too much plus I've never been disrespected by my medical colleagues. No one can.
you seem to be too interested in proving a point and that's the problem. strife to be the best in whatever you do, you can only be know as that good doctor/dentist.
ps: I don't need to convince you about who I am

I honestly like your view, and it's alright. However, for me it's not necessarily about the "glory" as you put it. It's about education and enlightenment. I could care less, it won't change my title neither will it reduce all the privileges that I get as a doctor, but it won't do any good to very many young ones who do not know anything about the course hence do not feel it in Jamb.

I have received a lot of appreciation by many dental surgery students who opted into Dentistry just because of my previous posts and comments on different threads pertaining to the study of Dentistry. For these ones I get encouraged to do what I do.

Cheers

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 1:27pm On Oct 27, 2019
angiography:




Loool... Just shut up already. You're embarrassing yourself too much o'er here.


Lol.. you don't have to show everyone you lack manners. Obviously you're the one embarrassing yourself. I won't reduce myself to trading words with you.

Everything I wrote about the study of Dentistry is the way it is, especially in the institution I attended. There may be a slight variation in other institutions. You're probably too proud to accept it. But I understand.

If you're ready to speak in a civilized manner, I would be willing to clear your doubts. Ask your questions or go research for yourself. Daalu

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 1:37pm On Oct 27, 2019
kman3000:
to start with, there isn't really anything like course in MBBS, it is all, from cover to cover. You need to be proud of your profession as a dentist, you don't need to attempt downgrading mbbs for bds to make ur profession seem more difficult to attain. MBBS is MBBS, BDS is BDS, we are professional colleagues. Imagine you easily saying you didn't just do some courses further attempting to massage an ego you don't have. You are a dentist period, I'm a doctor and I'm proud of it. You making sound as though you could be called upon for obstructed labour, or burst abdomen. All these points to inferior complexities, and you don't need it. Dentistry is a good course likewise medicine.

Lol... I noticed I keep being banned each time I try to reply this very comment of yours. I don't know if you're the one doing it. If you're, that is very immature of you. We should all be educated enough to dialogue like colleagues without showing any animosity.

I cannot misinform the public especially when I know that some here know me personally. Everything I stated about the study of Dentistry is true especially in the institution I studied. However, there may be slight changes in various institutions.

Concerning surgeries.. I laugh. If I start enumerating the surgeries dentists perform both on a tooth and jaws (maxilla and mandible), you'll be pleasantly amazed.

Perhaps when you have a relative requiring our expertise, you won't need someone to tell you who we really are.
Cheers

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Mikolion87(m): 1:43pm On Oct 27, 2019
Elouise:

leave this dude please
Lol... Funny

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 2:40pm On Oct 27, 2019
Mikolion87:


I'll take it that you're saying the mouth is different from the body.. Lol. I'm sure you can now see how laughable your premise is.

The whole body functions together. Anything affecting one part can affect the rest.

The only difference I see here is that Dentists begin to specialize early enough while being trained in general medicine as well. Like I said earlier, it shows autonomy and development. Allow me to enlighten you also that, Orthopedic surgery has separated from Faculty of Surgery to have its own Faculty (Faculty of orthopedic surgery) just like Faculty of Dental surgery in the West African College of Surgeons. That shows improvement not inferiority, neither does it mean they are no longer surgeons as the rest.

You're not a doctor so you won't understand these things. But if you're humble enough to learn, you'll be properly guided.

Cheers my friend.

God bless and keep you.

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by 0monnak0da: 4:59pm On Oct 27, 2019
sgtponzihater1:


Read my write up clearly. I haven't said Dentist are not Doctors, nor did I say nurses know more Medicine and Surgery than Dentist. However I maintain MBBS (Medical Doctors) is a totally different professions to Dentistry/BDS(Dental Surgeons).

Cheers
Dentists are NOT "doctors" they are dentists. It is clear the story is a lie. What is not clear is WHY?

What motivates such behaviour
I do not believe the OP is either a dentist or a doctor.
He is a liar
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 6:55pm On Oct 27, 2019
0monnak0da:
Dentists are NOT "doctors" they are dentists. It is clear the story is a lie. What is not clear is WHY?

What motivates such behaviour
I do not believe the OP is either a dentist or a doctor.
He is a liar

Shameful why Nigerians cannot say the truth. Several Dentist I have met outside Nigeria and even optometrists simply say I am a Dentist or an Optometrist. However in Nigeria they all claim Medical Doctor.

I once met a lecturer in a college of education, and I asked his job and he said he is a Doctor. Only on probing further did I note he was a teacher. I would want to attribute it to the ego mixed with inferiority complex of a black man, more acutely the Nigerian man

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 8:36pm On Oct 27, 2019
https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/roles-doctors/surgery/oral-and-maxillofacial-surgery/entry-requirements-skills-and-interests

Here is a link to show that even the UK calls those who studied MBBS as studied Medicine and those that studied BDS as studied Dentistry. The only bridge between Medicine and Dentistry Is actually OMS.
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by seunH: 8:55pm On Oct 27, 2019
Let me first of all state here, that I'm a neutral observer (Veterinarian). And I will use our veterinary model as a guide in this piece. It is not a hidden secret that more than 50% of vets in Nigeria actually wanted to study MBBS, but later found themselves in vet school. However, one good thing is that in vet school, they immediately orientate you that you are a vet doctor and not a human doctor and inasmuch as there are enormous similarities with what a MBBS student and Vet student does "YOU ARE NOT LICENSED TO TREAT A HUMAN" and also in the sight of the law the intervention a vet is licensed to give a human accident victim is NOT different from that of a lawyer, banker or engineer even though the vet has far more knowledge of what to do than the above. The reasons why they give us the above orientation is in order to avoid the mistake the OP is making. My dear OP, dentistry is a prestigious course, that's why the prefix "Dr" in front of your name and the fact that in civil service you start from GL 12 just 4 ranks to be perm sec which goes a long way in showing how prestigious your course is. But trying to identify your profession with MBBS as very similar or the same thing is injurious to the integrity of your profession. It should be noted however that as a dentist you have the right to be referred to as a medical doctor and even refer to your school as medical school but that would be misleading to the common man (that is the qualms you are having with your MBBS counterparts on this thread). I would advice next time that whenever you want to make reference to your profession, strictly indicate that you're a dentist (God willing a renowned dentist) from the beginning and all through, references should be made to that fact. I for one always refer to myself as a veterinarian not a "doctor" although I'm legally allowed to do so, but if I do so, that will be misleading to a lot of people which will be unethical and degrading to my profession.

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by midnighter(f): 8:58pm On Oct 27, 2019
sgtponzihater1:
https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/roles-doctors/surgery/oral-and-maxillofacial-surgery/entry-requirements-skills-and-interests

Here is a link to show that even the UK calls those who studied MBBS as studied Medicine and those that studied BDS as studied Dentistry. The only bridge between Medicine and Dentistry Is actually OMS.

This is what I am trying to ask them but they will start writing long paragraphs full of insults

what a world!
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by 0monnak0da: 9:00pm On Oct 27, 2019
sgtponzihater1:


Shameful why Nigerians cannot say the truth. Several Dentist I have met outside Nigeria and even optometrists simply say I am a Dentist or an Optometrist. However in Nigeria they all claim Medical Doctor.

I once met a lecturer in a college of education, and I asked his job and he said he is a Doctor. Only on probing further did I note he was a teacher. I would want to attribute it to the ego mixed with inferiority complex of a black man, more acutely the Nigerian man
Not a Nigerian phenomenon ,I disagree. I have experienced it elsewhere though usually in the form of non-medical Phds in a hospital environment
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by midnighter(f): 9:02pm On Oct 27, 2019
sgtponzihater1:


Wise words there.
Thank you.
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:11pm On Oct 27, 2019
seunH:
Let me first of all state here, that I'm a neutral observer (Veterinarian). And I will use our veterinary model as a guide in this piece. It is not a hidden secret that more than 50% of vets in Nigeria actually wanted to study MBBS, but later found themselves in vet school. However, one good thing is that in vet school, they immediately orientate you that you are a vet doctor and not a human doctor and inasmuch as there are enormous similarities with what a MBBS student and Vet student does "YOU ARE NOT LICENSED TO TREAT A HUMAN" and also in the sight of the law the intervention a vet is licensed to give a human accident victim is NOT different from that of a lawyer, banker or engineer even though the vet has far more knowledge of what to do than the above. The reasons why they give us the above orientation is in order to avoid the mistake the OP is making. My dear OP, dentistry is a prestigious course, that's why the prefix "Dr" in front of your name and the fact that in civil service you start from GL 12 just 4 ranks to be perm sec which goes a long way in showing how prestigious your course is. But trying to identify your profession with MBBS as very similar or the same thing is injurious to the integrity of your profession. It should be noted however that as a dentist you have the right to be referred to as a medical doctor and even refer to your school as medical school but that would be misleading to the common man (that is the qualms you are having with your MBBS counterparts on this thread). I would advice next time that whenever you want to make reference to your profession, strictly indicate that you're a dentist (God willing a renowned dentist) from the beginning and all through, references should be made to that fact. I for one always refer to myself as a veterinarian not a "doctor" although I'm legally allowed to do so, but if I do so, that will be misleading to a lot of people which will be unethical and degrading to my profession.

Another wise word. I strongly advice you continue to use the word Doctor as ur appellation since u earned it. The problem we have is people have inferiority about their profession. I kept asking a young man what he does one day we were traveling on a bus and kept telling me his is a medical Doctor not knowing he was a Dentist infact. What stops him from simply saying I am a Dentist. Also in strict terms Medical Doctor refers to MBBS. Dentists are Dentist, and the closest they can get to being Medic is specializing in Oral Maxillofacial Surgery, and I have posted a link to validate this on this post. So as not just to speak without fact. Again I attach the link here.

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/roles-doctors/surgery/oral-and-maxillofacial-surgery/entry-requirements-skills-and-interests

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:22pm On Oct 27, 2019
Addendum:
My boss, Academic Mentor and Erudite Professor of Dentistry in the University of Port Harcourt once said to me and I paraphrase; " I wanted to Study Medicine and Surgery to become a Medical Doctor, but was given Dentistry. Initially I felt down, but later accepted the course and decided to get to the very peak. I also chose OMS because it was the closest specialty in Dentistry to be a Medical Doctor". If a Once provost of Dentistry can say this, I wonder where these young folk get the idea of always stressing the MBBS more than their BDS. I even remember MDCN induction brochure put it this way, "Induction of Medical Doctors and Dental Surgeons" In the Ceremony they start with Induction of Medical Doctors, that's the induction MBBS gets, then they proceed to induct Dental surgeon, that's the induction Dentists gets. It simply means any Dentist claiming Medical Doctors is an aimless, esteem deficit impostor.
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:32pm On Oct 27, 2019
Another excerpt from Study.com explaining difference between a Medical doctor and a dentist.

Both dentists and medical doctors must complete several years of postsecondary training and residency programs in order to work in their field. They both treat and diagnose patients, but their specific focus differs. While dentists concentrate on teeth and oral health, medical doctors may treat a range of injuries or illnesses affecting any part of the body.
Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:37pm On Oct 27, 2019
Another Excerpts for the OP and his bunch of friend claiming the Medical Doctor appellation with links. Maybe you'll understand your calling better and face it squarely instead of claiming that it's an offshoot of MBBS

Are Dentists, Doctors (Dr)?

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Dentists are not doctors in the traditional sense of the word. Although they do undergo extensive medical training so they can become proficient at treating medical issues occurring with the teeth and gums, they are not doctors of medicine (MDs). Although many dentists are entitled to use the title 'doctor' as their training results in a doctorate, the term can also apply to many other fields of study for example professors holding a PHD. Although dentists will receive some rudimentary training in the basics of medicine, this is mainly so they are able to provide emergency care if their patients react badly to anaesthetics used during dental treatments. The majority of the training dentists receive however is studying diseases and treatments for health issues occurring with the teeth and gums.

In much the same way as a medical doctor, dentists can choose to enter into a speciality in different fields of dentistry. For instance, after undergoing their general dental practitioner training, they may choose to specialise in oral surgery, Orthodontics or paediatric dentistry. Specialists are often used by general dental practitioners to refer patients who have complex needs connected to their speciality.

In order to become a dentist, you first need a degree in dentistry from an acknowledged university. Dentistry programmes tend to last five years including subjects such as pathology, anatomy, biochemistry and a range of other scientific fields. The course also involves a practical section, which ensures that trainee dentists are able to put the theory they have learned into practice. Once the trainee dentist has completed their education, they need to be registered with the General Dental Council in addition to working for a set amount of time in a dental practice. Depending on the career path the trainee wishes to take, they may need to continue their education and training, enabling them to acquire new techniques and treatments. Some dentists choose specialities and cosmetic


https://www.healthcentre.org.uk/dentistry/faqs-are-dentists-doctors.html

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:55pm On Oct 27, 2019
This is an except from the General Dental Council, warning Dentist not to mislead the public that they are Medical practitioners when in fact they are not. But the OP is doing just that. Here is the except and link below:


Yet they do note that; “Dentists who choose to use the title must ensure that it is not used in a way which could mislead the public, for example by giving the impression that the dentist is a registered medical practitioner if they are not.” And it is this final point which is being upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) when complaints are raised in connection with adverts for dentists and their services which refer to the practitioner using the doctor title.


https://www.consultingroom.com/Blog/352/are-dentists-allowed-to-call-themselves-doctors?-no,-say-the-asa.

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Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:57pm On Oct 27, 2019
More free education to the OP with empirical links:

When someone says they're going to the doctor, they're usually referring to a medical doctor, also known as a physician. A dentist is a doctor, too, but completes a post-baccalaureate program at a college of dentistry rather than a college of medicine. Though their training has some similarities, dentists and physicians generally have different scopes of practice.

https://work.chron.com/dentist-vs-doctor-17565.html

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