AntiChristian:


Jesus is god himself? So who is a god?

The God I worship is far above becoming a man. I mean Jesus that passed through the womb, birth canal, feed on breast milk, was circumcised, eat, slept, wept, was asked question which he didn't know and then later killed by death and human.

May you be cured!

What blindness..... You need sight.

Great testimony!

Mystery9:

What blindness..... You need sight.

I have sight and insight. Those who can't see are those who can't bring a flaw in my argument but only resort to abuse!

Jesus is god himself? So who is a god?

The God I worship is far above becoming a man. I mean Jesus that passed through the womb, birth canal, feed on breast milk, was circumcised, eat, slept, wept, was asked question which he didn't know and then later killed by death and human.

Speaklove:

If you believe that he is the son of God according to the scripture you quoted, then why are you having difficulties to believe
That he is God?
For if the Son of a man is also a man being that he came from (the sperm) inside man , then the son of God is also God being that he came from (the Spirit and word) inside God.

The concept of God/god in the Bible is deceptive and can easily be translated as one wishes.

Son of God
In the Bible we see that Moses is God for Pharaoh, Satan is the God of the world, Sons of God came to sleep with humans, God fought Jacob and lost, Jesus is the son of God, Even you are Gods. Most of these Gods are from "Elohim" in Hebrew. Elohim which can be translated as "gods" can be used in the singular sense for God, for god, Angels, Superhuman, and for people of authority such as a Judge or ruler.

Elohim as (God)
Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth.

Used as gods
Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11

“Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20

As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight God.)
“Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28

Human like god (Elohim)
Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1

“I said, ‘You are “gods" (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6

Yes you are very very very very very very very very very absolutely awesomely and wonderfully correct sir.
As it is written below

John 1:12
[12]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

So being a son of God does not even mean much as Sons of God came to have sex in Gen 6:1-4.
I have never seen a way of life where the concept of "Godship" is so flawed as these.

famozine1:
I love dis @speaklove ur replies I believe it's not from u but from the holy Spirit

Yes he speaks through us .
As it is written :
Matthew 10:19-20
[19]But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak;
[20]for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.


He craves to speak through believers who are willing to yield their mouth to him .

God beckons upon our generation ,and he is waiting for us to yield our members as vessels in his hands.

Thank you very much

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My Face To Face Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1

why did God allow Muhammad to bring is religion and was accepted all over the world,they go to Hajj every year,from different countries around the world,who created Muhammad that makes is followers posees the habit of killing ram like Abraham,the father of your religion...so because of music you heard from someone's house like naira Marley,holy Spirit enters your body...demon leaves your body and enter Qur'an,did you remember that Nollywood actress that smoked with Bible verse,more than 1000 people begs her to smoked with Qur'an verse if she get mind,till today,she no fit...all this your frame write up changes nothing in Islam...we worship 5times daily,how do you worship God...there is different between praising God and to worship him,you sing and dance to praise,and Jesus never did that...how do you worship God...you as a Catholic member,let assume,you leave Nigeria to China,but no Catholic Church in China,how do you worship God over there,in which you don't attend other churches,if you are going to church on Sunday in Lagos State,and you have a flat tire,before you fixed it, church don closed,how you going to worship alone or you go back home till following weekend....don't bring any frame story here!

uthlaw:
why did God allow Muhammad to bring is religion and was accepted all over the world,they go to Hajj every year,from different countries around the world,who created Muhammad that makes is followers posees the habit of killing ram like Abraham,the father of your religion...so because of music you heard from someone's house like naira Marley,holy Spirit enters your body...demon leaves your body and enter Qur'an,did you remember that Nollywood actress that smoked with Bible verse,more than 1000 people begs her to smoked with Qur'an verse if she get mind,till today,she no fit...all this your frame write up changes nothing in Islam...we worship 5times daily,how do you worship God...there is different between praising God and to worship him,you sing and dance to praise,and Jesus never did that...how do you worship God...you as a Catholic member,let assume,you leave Nigeria to China,but no Catholic Church in China,how do you worship God over there,in which you don't attend other churches,if you are going to church on Sunday in Lagos State,and you have a flat tire,before you fixed it, church don closed,how you going to worship alone or you go back home till following weekend....don't bring any frame story here!

No mind am! Na work and beauty of the world carry am go there. His eyes go clear but he no go fit go back except if Allah wills.

LMAO! Oh dear Andromeda.

uthlaw:
why did God allow Muhammad to bring is religion and was accepted all over the world,they go to Hajj every year,from different countries around the world,who created Muhammad that makes is followers posees the habit of killing ram like Abraham,the father of your religion...so because of music you heard from someone's house like naira Marley,holy Spirit enters your body...demon leaves your body and enter Qur'an,did you remember that Nollywood actress that smoked with Bible verse,more than 1000 people begs her to smoked with Qur'an verse if she get mind,till today,she no fit...all this your frame write up changes nothing in Islam...we worship 5times daily,how do you worship God...there is different between praising God and to worship him,you sing and dance to praise,and Jesus never did that...how do you worship God...you as a Catholic member,let assume,you leave Nigeria to China,but no Catholic Church in China,how do you worship God over there,in which you don't attend other churches,if you are going to church on Sunday in Lagos State,and you have a flat tire,before you fixed it, church don closed,how you going to worship alone or you go back home till following weekend....don't bring any frame story here!

What are you talking about ?

You do not know what you worship
But we know what we worship

John 4:23-24
[23]But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
[24]God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”


Worship begins from the heart .
It's not an exercise as you do .
We Christians pour out our hearts to god through the songs we sing
But what is the meaning of your bowing and raising while saying the same thing everyday ?

The one you claim to worship already knows what you will say tomorrow when you appear before him
It's the same thing you said yesterday that you will say tomorrow ,and the process continues withiout change but your heart do Change ,even your place of worship changes but you carry out the same exercises with different heart posture .
So your are not worshipping god but exercising your body .

We pour out our hearts everyday in different ways through different means because our hearts are renewed our conditions and lives changes .
Even days are not the same .
God want us to speak to him freely from our own heart what we desire ,and not to forcefully or mandatory say things that are penned down hundreds of years ago which might differ from the very things we might desire to say unto him .

May God give you understanding my friend

LordReed:
LMAO! Oh dear Andromeda.

My dear lordreed
How are you doing ?

Hope you are meditating on what you've read (did you even read or just commented ?)

If you did ,then please take time to think about it withiout sentiment but with a pure conscience free of prejudice .

AntiChristian:


No mind am! Na work and beauty of the world carry am go there. His eyes go clear but he no go fit go back except if Allah wills.

You darkens counsel by words withiout knowledge .

Your are simply sentimental in your judgment

Of this testimony ,and it's you who should be careful because I am fully convinced of where I belong but you don't know your left from your right.

I claimed to have seen the God I worship and that's a great deal
But you have no witness that is beyond the natural to back up your faith in Islam .

I have tasted the heavenly gift but there are many river on earth that you've never set your eyes upon talk less of drinking from therein .

Be wise for yourself

Speaklove:


My dear lordreed
How are you doing ?

Hope you are meditating on what you've read (did you even read or just commented ?)

If you did ,then please take time to think about it withiout sentiment but with a pure conscience free of prejudice .

I was a Christian longer than you have been alive. LoLz.

AntiChristian:


The concept of God/god in the Bible is deceptive and can easily be translated as one wishes.

Son of God
In the Bible we see that Moses is God for Pharaoh, Satan is the God of the world, Sons of God came to sleep with humans, God fought Jacob and lost, Jesus is the son of God, Even you are Gods. Most of these Gods are from "Elohim" in Hebrew. Elohim which can be translated as "gods" can be used in the singular sense for God, for god, Angels, Superhuman, and for people of authority such as a Judge or ruler.

Elohim as (God)
Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth.

Used as gods
Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11

“Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20

As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight God.)
“Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28

Human like god (Elohim)
Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1

“I said, ‘You are “gods" (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6



So being a son of God does not even mean much as Sons of God came to have sex in Gen 6:1-4.
I have never seen a way of life where the concept of "Godship" is so flawed as these.

You problem is :
You think God is too great to be ascribe with a thing or to something that can be found among men .

And that's understandable
But you don't know the simplicity of God .

God is so simple than you think he is great

You commune with men and relates with them as a father would his child and has a comrade his fellow comrades .

I understand that god is to be highly magnified for he is above human imagination s ,and he himself knows how he is fearfully glorified by men .

But men can not adequately have the kind of relationship that God desired to have with man by only the revelation of his greatness ,power ,glory and Majesty .

God created man to exercise domion over the earn through mans fellowship and spiritual alignment with the mind of God ,

But man fell from that posture .

So God made a way for restoration ,but that way can not be thread upon by men without the revelation of God's love for humanity .

Humanity before now knew God as one who is to be highly reverend ,fearfully and carefully worship .
In fact some thought God was a sadist who took pleasure in afflicting those who refused to obey his commandments .(and some still do till today)

So God knew that the hearts of men has been set and cemented by the notion that God is too strict .

God needed to change the perception of men concerning him before they would be able to receive the gift of his salvation .

So he brought out the revelation of his love,simplicity,mercy and kindness
Through Jesus Christ .

As it is written

John 3:16-17
[16]For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
[17]For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.


So when we talk about God in a certain way and it looks strange to you ,I want you to know that its all because you lack the revelation of the simplicity that is in God which was demonstrated to the world through that life and death of Jesus Christ .

My friend I understand that you love to reverence God and that is good ,but God does not save the world through reverence but through is simplicity which is love .

Mean are weak so God came to men in the shape if a weak man so that he could relate with them and they with him on the same ground .

Nevertheless God is above man and should always be reverend ,honored and glorified .

LordReed:


I was a Christian longer than you have been alive. LoLz.

Wow !
Well I think the journey back home is shorter for you than you thought .
But you kept looking at a door far away that never existed while thinking the one you came out from was that box people say to think out of .

Christianity is not a box that cages your mind
No!
It's like barriers put in place to help keep you out of danger while it leads you to a place you desire to be but can't describe because you haven't seen it ,and that led to series of doubts.

You want to walk on the paths of this world without some barriers restricting you ?

It's like that little girl trying to cross a service lane (where vehicles run on the highest speed) without you holding her hands .

You hold it because you love her right?

See !
He is waiting for you to say
"Hold my hands once again and lead me like a father leads his daughter .

the hand he wants to hold is your heart

Speaklove:


Wow !
Well I think the journey back home is shorter for you than you thought .
But you kept looking at a door far away that never existed while thinking the one you came out from was that box people say to think out of .

Christianity is not a box that cages your mind
No!
It's like barriers put in place to help keep you out of danger while it leads you to a place you desire to be but can't describe because you haven't seen it ,and that led to series of doubts.

You want to walk on the paths of this world without some barriers restricting you ?

It's like that little girl trying to cross a service lane (where vehicles run on the highest speed) without you holding her hands .

You hold it because you love her right?

See !
He is waiting for you to say
"Hold my hands once again and lead me like a father leads his daughter .

the hand he wants to hold is your heart

Would you consider going to a Buddhist temple to listen to what a priest has to say?

LordReed:


Would you consider going to a Buddhist temple to listen to what a priest has to say?

Well ,there is wisdom in everything ,but everything is not Profitable for everybody .

Going there would be to hear the priest's view ,but my heart wouldn't be hardened against any truth he mights say.

Speaklove:


Well ,there is wisdom in everything ,but everything is not Profitable for everybody .

Going there would be to hear the priest's view ,but my heart wouldn't be hardened against any truth he mights say.

Exactly my attitude towards your religion. While there are some good things about it there are definitely lots to throw away as well.

Jesus Christ is pagan worship.

Better to start worshiping The Most High God directly

Speaklove:



You problem is :
You think God is too great to be ascribe with a thing or to something that can be found among men .

And that's understandable
But you don't know the simplicity of God .

God is so simple than you think he is great

You commune with men and relates with them as a father would his child and has a comrade his fellow comrades .

I understand that god is to be highly magnified for he is above human imagination s ,and he himself knows how he is fearfully glorified by men .

But men can not adequately have the kind of relationship that God desired to have with man by only the revelation of his greatness ,power ,glory and Majesty .

God created man to exercise domion over the earn through mans fellowship and spiritual alignment with the mind of God ,

But man fell from that posture .

So God made a way for restoration ,but that way can not be thread upon by men without the revelation of God's love for humanity .

Humanity before now knew God as one who is to be highly reverend ,fearfully and carefully worship .
In fact some thought God was a sadist who took pleasure in afflicting those who refused to obey his commandments .(and some still do till today)

So God knew that the hearts of men has been set and cemented by the notion that God is too strict .

God needed to change the perception of men concerning him before they would be able to receive the gift of his salvation .

So he brought out the revelation of his love,simplicity,mercy and kindness
Through Jesus Christ .

As it is written

John 3:16-17
[16]For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
[17]For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.


So when we talk about God in a certain way and it looks strange to you ,I want you to know that its all because you lack the revelation of the simplicity that is in God which was demonstrated to the world through that life and death of Jesus Christ .

My friend I understand that you love to reverence God and that is good ,but God does not save the world through reverence but through is simplicity which is love .

Mean are weak so God came to men in the shape if a weak man so that he could relate with them and they with him on the same ground .

Nevertheless God is above man and should always be reverend ,honored and glorified .

More words that lack content! How does all this refute the concept of God in Christianity using Elohim as a case study? In Islam, Allah is the Lord, God. Nothing else bear that name anywhere in the universe or in the heavens.

Same mumbo jumbo that all Christians say that they can't explain.

Man is so weak but instead of God to make him strong He decided to make himself weak!

How illogical. Anyways na Christian thing!

Speaklove:


You darkens counsel by words withiout knowledge .

Your are simply sentimental in your judgment

Of this testimony ,and it's you who should be careful because I am fully convinced of where I belong but you don't know your left from your right.

I claimed to have seen the God I worship and that's a great deal
But you have no witness that is beyond the natural to back up your faith in Islam .

I have tasted the heavenly gift but there are many river on earth that you've never set your eyes upon talk less of drinking from therein .

Be wise for yourself

Same mumbo jumbo again!
No one can see God so how does your God look like? I guess a majestic king on a throne with three heads and one body representing the father, son and spirit plus 1+1+1=1.

I am pretty sure you're deluded and need psychiatric evaluation.

What witness have you got?
What heavenly gift?
How do you know the heavenly gift is not satanic?

That the God you saw isn't Lucifer and the witness is Satan himself?

It's you who doesn't know your left from your right when you were a Muslim till when you became a Christian.

LordReed:


I was a Christian longer than you have been alive. LoLz.

Lol, that one no really work for Christianity. You can be young in the faith like Paul and be more useful for God and to God than older eldest believers.

Image123:


Lol, that one no really work for Christianity. You can be young in the faith like Paul and be more useful for God and to God than older eldest believers.

Yeah sure your age doesn't determine how steeped into the Jewish mythology you are but the longer you are in the more chance you have to hear most of it.

LordReed:


Yeah sure your age doesn't determine how steeped you are.

This is just perfect.

LordReed:


Exactly my attitude towards your religion. While there are some good things about it there are definitely lots to throw away as well.

The things you call good are those you were able to comprehend by exercising your intellect or at face value .
But those you think you have issues with are the deep .
Deep has to call unto deep for you to perceive what you find difficult to grasp .

You don't decide what's good or not for yourself because your mind and the way you think as been subjected to different set of education instituted by men which might differ from the ways of God.

As it is written
Isaiah 55:8-9
[8]“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
[9]“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.


God is the law giver ,so one must submit to the law giver and align with his thoughts and how he sees things.

As it Is written
Isaiah 33:22
[22](For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us);

You can't decide what is right or wrong by your own self because what ever choice you will ever make will surely not be independent of any inspiration from another entity.

Your life is a product of inspiration ,and you will forever be influenced and inspired by your environment ,and people around you .

You can't create or chose your own truth or your own evil .
You will always have to chose from what has been on ground .

And God is the best to chose from

AntiChristian:


More words that lack content! How does all this refute the concept of God in Christianity using Elohim as a case study? In Islam, Allah is the Lord, God. Nothing else bear that name anywhere in the universe or in the heavens.

Same mumbo jumbo that all Christians say that they can't explain.

Man is so weak but instead of God to make him strong He decided to make himself weak!

How illogical. Anyways na Christian thing!

What is the word for "God " in Arabic ?

And what is the name of the" Islamic God "

Answer these question if you claim to know much .

AntiChristian:


Same mumbo jumbo again!
No one can see God so how does your God look like? I guess a majestic king on a throne with three heads and one body representing the father, son and spirit plus 1+1+1=1.

I am pretty sure you're deluded and need psychiatric evaluation.

What witness have you got?
What heavenly gift?
How do you know the heavenly gift is not satanic?

That the God you saw isn't Lucifer and the witness is Satan himself?

It's you who doesn't know your left from your right when you were a Muslim till when you became a Christian.

You are answering me from a sentimental heart .
Yiu don't think about what I said ,but only rush to rebut me.

You have to work on your mind ,and stop reacting in defense if your religion instead of the truth .

But how can you even the defend a thing you don't even know ?

Speaklove:


What is the word for "God " in Arabic?

And what is the name of the" Islamic God "

Answer these question if you claim to know much .

The name of God the creator of Adam is Allah. He is the Islamic/Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek God.

The general name for other gods/deity/things people worship apart from Allah is ILAAH!

Mind you i never claimed i know anything!

Allah knows best!

AntiChristian:


The name of God the creator of Adam is Allah. He is the Islamic/Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek God.

The general name for other gods/deity/things people worship apart from Allah is ILAAH!

Mind you i never claimed i know anything!

Allah knows best!

You answered off point !

I didn't ask you for the name of whatever God you think was the one who created Adam
No!

I said " what is the word of " God" in Arabic

And what is the name of the" Islamic God "

The Quran wasn't written in Aramaic ,Hebrew or Greek but Arabic ,so why are you dodging my question ?

Answer me directly or explain with point

Speaklove:


You answered off point !

I didn't ask you for the name of whatever God you think was the one who created Adam
No!

I said " what is the word of " God" in Arabic

And what is the name of the" Islamic God "

The Quran wasn't written in Aramaic ,Hebrew or Greek but Arabic ,so why are you dodging my question ?

Answer me directly or explain with point

God/Islamic God is Allah in Arabic.

Speaklove:


You are answering me from a sentimental heart .
Yiu don't think about what I said ,but only rush to rebut me.

You have to work on your mind ,and stop reacting in defense if your religion instead of the truth .

But how can you even the defend a thing you don't even know ?

You have no proof here against the concept of God from Elohim i proved earlier!
Do you even know what you accept?

AntiChristian:


God/Islamic God is Allah in Arabic.

You haven't answer the question in the right oder still .

You know you are running away from the truth