gregyboy:


Yes the itsekiri and the Europeans knew why they addressed the benin as angry people and called it a land of blood

Every yoruba we came in contact we defeated them even the village empire called oyo

AreaFada2:

Hahahaha. Again, the history of the elders from which the first ogiso emerged is out there. Ashanti have said the golden stool didn't come from the sky yet outsiders still claim so.

King Bling Frederick and Ooni in their writings about Oduduwa still do not match. Olugbo even claims seniority to Ooni.
Your people here still claim chain from the hill, sky, Egypt, Israel.

TAO11:


Is that why ordinary baby Ibadan decimated your Benin Kingdom??

gregyboy:


Were are you from



The other nigga said his but you keep hiding yours......

I know you have sworn to drag benin into your mythical dreams


Even going around alk thread bad mouthing me to the igbos

As god will have it even your brothers accepted oba is indegenous to benin



You know how nollywood movies end on wicked people that would indeed be your end

gregyboy:


Yes the itsekiri and the Europeans knew why they addressed the benin as angry people and called it a land of blood

Every yoruba we came in contact we defeated them even the village empire called oyo

TAO11:


Is this how you will explain why Ibadan crushed your Benin Kingdom.

AreaFada2:

Yes, action is what they called anger. No time to bark, brag, raise dust and then be doing suwegbe or pick race when action time comes.

I remember one day one Asaba guy (a fellow Bendelite as we were then) saw okpor JuJu belonging to a Yoruba boy inside his trainers in the morning.. It was after a house party and everyone slept off later.

Whenbthe Asaba guy voiced his displeasure over how the okpor got into his shoe. The Yoruba boys there surrounded the Asaba guy to hush him and intimidate him. Oh boy, we Bendel guys got them scampering for safety. 4 of us against 10 or eleven of them.

Chai, I laugh tire that day. I used to consider those guys "brothers" until I saw their tribalism at work. Carrying tribalism all the way to diaspora.

They were later saying these Anini people nor dey joke o.

TAO11:


If I sama you e-slap with your moronic lying tongue!

No be only older than Ife. Na older than Egypt you for talk.

Where is the archaeological dating result?

You think every sane person buys into your nonsensical king list of Ogiso and pre-Ogiso jokes??

Bring archaeological results like that of Paul Ozanne or Robin Horton that have variously adduced archaeological evidence dating many settlements in the Ife bowl to at least 500BC.

Not your feel-good imaginations with which you Binis compensate desperately for your inferiority complex.

Nonsense and Oba Ovoranmwen.

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illicit:

Yes. Am here
No carbon dating can prove what he is saying.
Archaeological remains in Ife are older than that of Benin.
As a linguist I know that the yorubas used the word oba and Ogboni first before the benins too....

He wants to rewrite history ni.

TAO11:


Who do we believe among these Bini versions:

Ogiso Igodo from Egypt

or

Ogiso Igodo from Ife

or Ogiso Igodo from the sky to Benin City round about.

Even you yourself are embarrased to add your own version.


Mind you, while all these conflicting versions about your Ogiso are authoritative, the accounts of Israel, Egypt, Mecca are not found originally in Yoruba traditions.

They are either classical Hausa views or modern blog writings. Nothing indigenous or scholarly.

Same can't be said of your Ogiso.

illicit:

Yes. Am here
No carbon dating can prove what he is saying.
Archaeological remains in Ife are older than that of Benin.
As a linguist I know that the yorubas used the word oba and Ogboni first before the benins too....

He wants to rewrite history ni.

illicit:

Yes. Am here
No carbon dating can prove what he is saying.
Archaeological remains in Ife are older than that of Benin.
As a linguist I know that the yorubas used the word oba and Ogboni first before the benins too....

He wants to rewrite history ni.

AreaFada2:

Your problem is you copy and paste anything you see. Like I mentioned elsewhere before, I grew up in a house with a rich library. Books and journal articles were written in my presence. For you anything written is impressive.

Not me who saw history being written and can discern.

You will probably learn that with time. Experience is the best teacher.

Well, Muslim scholars wrote your history and gave you Yoruba/Yoruba name. My part of SW is Ado-Akure.

Not Islamic baptismal name. To tell them Alakubar to correct your history.

gregyboy:
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TAO11:


Hurray!! ... gregyboy finally cites his trusted "scholar" and "authority".




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TAO11:


I'm from all parts of Yoruba as my parents have parents, and their parents also with parents, and so on adinfinitum all iver Yorubaland.

Is their anyway an answer to that question will help you explain why ordinary Ibadan attacked, raided, and decimated your Benin Kingdom??

TAO11:


I'm from all parts of Yoruba as my parents have parents, and their parents also with parents, and so on adinfinitum all iver Yorubaland.

Is their anyway an answer to that question will help you explain why ordinary Ibadan attacked, raided, and decimated your Benin Kingdom??

AreaFada2:

Better do hydrogen dating. Then do Uranium dating.
Carbon dating will not be enough. A linguist educated where? Ife, Ibadan, Lagos or where?

I read up to 5 books to get a balance view of Napoleon Bonaparte. All in original languages. It took the American and Swiss authors to give the most balanced narrative. The British and French authors were either writing about a hero or a villain.
Lol.

illicit:
you can ask yourself why the oba of Benin is referred to as omonoba.
Omo oba in yoruba means a prince

gregyboy:





Sicko



Omo n'oba nedo ukwakpolopolo title

Eware11 = name


Calling just oba as the title is incorrect oba is just an abbreviations of the full name

The question should be why did the yorubas adopt the word oba to represent kingship in yoruba land was the power of power so strong among yoruba territories just like we nigerians adopted king as an English title for our king.....



You guys simply adopted the title oba into your lexicon in the early 30s

gregyboy:





Sicko



Omo n'oba nedo ukwakpolopolo title

Eware11 = name


Calling just oba as the title is incorrect oba is just an abbreviations of the full name

The question should be why did the yorubas adopt the word oba to represent kingship in yoruba land was the power of power so strong among yoruba territories just like we nigerians adopted king as an English title for our king.....



You guys simply adopted the title oba into your lexicon in the early 30s

illicit:


oh boy you don't get it.

what language do u speak.

Oba in Yoruba translates to "he who presides"


omo oba means the Scion of he who presides.

omonoba nedo.... means the prince in edo....

what does oba mean in your language. answer that.

am a linguist you know.


Obadiah or whatever you are quoting from Edom has nothing to do with this.
No linguistic correlation.

How do you even know the right pronunciation for Obadiah....

Moneywomen17:
shut up and stop lying oba is yoruba word. The title otunba a very prominent title in all yoruba land means king right hand man. So tell me how yoruba copy Benin when it’s clear as day it’s the other way around. Every market in Yoruba land there is oja oba. Even the Europeans wrote about it. The truth is Benin adopted the word when oranmiyab from came to rule ur people. Cuz the word oba has no meaning regarding leadership in Benin language while it does in Yoruba.

illicit:


oh boy you don't get it.

what language do u speak.

Oba in Yoruba translates to "he who presides"


omo oba means the Scion of he who presides.

omonoba nedo.... means the prince in edo....

what does oba mean in your language. answer that.

am a linguist you know.


Obadiah or whatever you are quoting from Edom has nothing to do with this.
No linguistic correlation.

How do you even know the right pronunciation for Obadiah....

gregyboy:




Nigga if oba is who preside that is oba for Yoruba

Our own is not oba but omo no ba not omo oba



Omo no ona( a shinny one)



Yoruba have so many word for king

Olu=one who preside
Ooni=one who preside
Kaybeysi=one who preside
Deji=one who preside

The world oba is borrowed by the yoruba will overlorded the entire weak Yoruba tribe

Moneywomen17:
shut up and stop lying oba is yoruba word. The title otunba a very prominent title in all yoruba land means king right hand man. So tell me how yoruba copy Benin when it’s clear as day it’s the other way around. Every market in Yoruba land there is oja oba. Even the Europeans wrote about it. The truth is Benin adopted the word when oranmiyab from came to rule ur people. Cuz the word oba has no meaning regarding leadership in Benin language while it does in Yoruba.

gregyboy:



Oromiyan that samuel johson didnt even write that he came from ife go sit down nor be only oromiyan

You expect me to believe your myth lol



We have more than 30king who heritage are benin tell me why the word oba wont be adopted to the yorubas lexicon


Unlike oromiyan who some authors believe never existed


In the entire Edo state show me three kings who have Yoruba ancestory


The truth is edo overlorded you guys


Oduduwa is a political canopy to escape oyo rule


So emir title in kwara is also a Yoruba title

Benin - ife never had connections oga go sit-down