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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:38pm On Jun 13, 2023
MightySparrow:



Dó you mean Jehovah's False witnesses? The name Jehovah witness self is an error. You are a witness to what you know, not what you don't. These people go about the letter not the spirit.
Nah the same mouth wey you and your fellow Churchians dey use sing "Jehovah is your name" every Sunday.

Matthew 24:14 this gospel is a witness/testimony to all the nations, JWs are giving the witness.
Oga continue WAILING.
Ozuo grin grin grin


MightySparrow:


In the whole Bible: God is a spirit, a personality, Satan is a spirit, a being, angels are spirits, beings, only Holy Spirit of JWs is a force.

My brother, leave them to their delusion.
Jesus Christ says holy spirit is finger of God his Father.
God his Father is a Spirit.
Is the finger of a Spirit a person?

Ozuo grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MightySparrow: 10:49pm On Jun 13, 2023
Janosky:

Nah the same mouth wey you and your fellow Churchians dey use sing "Jehovah is your name" every Sunday.

Ozuo grin grin grin



Jesus Christ says holy spirit is finger of God his Father.
God his Father is a Spirit.
Is the finger of a Spirit a person?

Ozuo grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:39pm On Jun 13, 2023
tete7000:


You are just funny. Jesus used the word " I AM" and the Jews wanted to stone him for blasphemy for equating himself with God.
You are ADDED "blasphemy for equating himself with God" to John 8:58-59.
Wayo Trinitarians ADDING to the holy scriptures.
grin grin

According to the Hebrews the Jewish people,"I will be what I will be" @ Exodus 3:14 has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with John 8:58.
You can NOT tell the Jews how to speak or interpret their language @ Exodus 3:14.
They reject your FALSE claim. grin


tete7000:


I AM was the name God gave to Moses on Mt, Horeb when God called him to go and save the Israelites and he asked what name he should deliver the God's message to Israelites: Jesus came, used the same phrase to refer to himself, they picked to wanted to pebble him but he escaped. They wanted to dish to him punishment reserve in the old testament for those who blaspheme. I often wonder which scripture you people read, it definitely can't be the same one every sane one of us read.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. - Ex.3:14.

In the screenshots, the Jews speaking Hebrew their own language says "No,Sir."
The proper translation of Exodus 3:14 is "I will be what I will be",a Jewish/Hebrew idiom, not a name.

Nah your fellow Trinitarians dey confuse you. grin

2nd point.
Exodus 3:15 YHWH pronounced Yahweh/Jehovah is God's name to time indefinite.
Further expressed in Exodus 6:3.
Oga, Stop DECEIVING YOURSELF
.
tete7000:


You guys can keep denying the truth, it's a free world when we leave here you will come face to face with all the truths you have refused to believe.

John 8:38
"I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father"

John 8:38, Oga did your "I Am" speak to himself?
John 8:23-27,38,58, Jesus Christ PROVEN he is older than Abraham,Oga not proof of your FALSE claim.
John 8:23-27,38,58 Jesus Christ PROVEN You are DECEIVING YOURSELF. cheesy


tete7000:



Thomas made an error in amazement and Jesus, the truth, the way and life let that error go through without correcting it, even when he knew the damage it could caused later? When he knew the misinterpretation it can be given needing you to help you correct it? You guys can sound very ridiculous but I understand, you are not allowed to think anything through. You regurgitate everything you are told and you aren't allow to use your brain to philosophise and reason.


Oga,You are making FALSE claim.
@ John 20:18-26, did Thomas believe Jesus has risen?

No!

John 20:29, Jesus says Blessed are those who NEVER saw him risen yet believed he has risen.
John 20:17,Jesus Christ already refuted your FALSE claim, saying that he is a Worshipper of the God of his disciples, Acts 3:13.

Is Acts 3:13 deleted from your Bible?

John 20:28 (biblehub Evidence) ends with exclamation, Oga STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Oh my God! (as in John 20:28) is not a reference to God Almighty.
Oga STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:54pm On Jun 13, 2023
MightySparrow:

Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 & John 4:24.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit.
God's holy spirit is his finger.
According to Jesus Christ.

Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF & WAILING
grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:04am On Jun 14, 2023
tete7000:


Think about a family of three - father, mother and the child. By virtue of marriage, father and mother are two entities but one body; the child born out of the union can be said to be equally of the same stock as the parent. Now think of a situation where the three are perfect beings, whatever one upholds, the others do, to see and hear from the mother or son will be equal to hearing from the father because they will never contradict themselves.
So in marriage you have three distinct personalities with hierarchy but same in substance and dignity, the three are humans.

This analogy can to some extent help you comprehend trinity. When next JW come with argument against trinity, ask them how is it possible in marriage to have two become one.

You are a polytheist Worshipping 3 spirits- 3 Hims.
Oga, did Jesus Christ Worship 3 Spirits?
Your Trinitarian mentors at Nicene 326 AD said your 3 Spirits are equal, how come you are talking about hierarchy?


1 Corinthians 11:1-3 & John 4:23-24 nah the correct way.
IYKYK.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:21am On Jun 14, 2023
Janosky:

Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 & John 4:24.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit.
God's holy spirit is his finger.
According to Jesus Christ.
Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF & WAILING grin

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

you must believe that the Holy Spirit is the literal finger of God, you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


the finger of God is referring to the power of The Holy Spirit

and even so you false jw's love to blaspheme Him


Luk 11:20  "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Lord Jesus cast out demons by The Holy Spirit


The Holy Spirit certainly is a Person, just some of many:

John 14:26, “the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Acts 8:29, “the Spirit said to Philip, ‘Go over and join this chariot.’

Acts 13:2, “While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, ‘Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.'”

Acts 15:28, “it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements.”

Ephesians 4:30, “do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

Hebrews 10:29, “How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has . . . outraged the Spirit of grace?”

Acts 5:3, 4, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? . . . You have not lied to men but to God‘”

Romans 8:26-27, “the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.”

John 15;26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:12pm On Jun 14, 2023
johnw47:


Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

you must believe that the Holy Spirit is the literal finger of God, you so dum, aren't you:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


the finger of God is referring to the power of The Holy Spirit

and even so you false jw's love to blaspheme Him


Luk 11:20  "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Lord Jesus cast out demons by The Holy Spirit


The Holy Spirit certainly is a Person, just some of many:

John 14:26, “the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Acts 8:29, “the Spirit said to Philip, ‘Go over and join this chariot.’

Acts 13:2, “While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, ‘Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.'”

Acts 15:28, “it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements.”

Ephesians 4:30, “do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

Hebrews 10:29, “How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has . . . outraged the Spirit of grace?”

Acts 5:3, 4, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? . . . You have not lied to men but to God‘”

Romans 8:26-27, “the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.”

John 15;26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me


The scriptures NEVER said "power of the holy spirit" LYING dimwit.

Jesus breathed holy spirit into the disciples, Jesus did not breath any entity into them.
Your KJV says "spirit itself", Romans 8:16,26.
This John W MUMU
grin grin grin

Power is NOT a person.

Holy spirit is finger of God, full STOP.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:30pm On Jun 14, 2023
Janosky:

The scriptures NEVER said "power of the holy spirit" LYING dimwit.
Jesus breathed holy spirit into the disciples, Jesus did not breath any entity into them.
Your KJV says "spirit itself", Romans 8:16,26.
This John W MUMU grin grin grin
Power is NOT a person.
Holy spirit is finger of God, full STOP.

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw and false accuser janosky

most dum one, truly the term "finger of God" is referring to the power of The Holy Spirit


and of course you don't believe God's word showing the Holy Spirit is a person, oh son of your father of lies the devil:

johnw47:

John 14:26, “the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Acts 8:29, “the Spirit said to Philip, ‘Go over and join this chariot.’

Acts 13:2, “While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, ‘Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.'”

Acts 15:28, “it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements.”

Ephesians 4:30, “do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

Hebrews 10:29, “How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has . . . outraged the Spirit of grace?”

Acts 5:3, 4, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? . . . You have not lied to men but to God‘”

Romans 8:26-27, “the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.”

John 15;26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me


Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:42pm On Jun 14, 2023
lost fraud jw janosky

"itself" is said once, and "He" is said regarding The Holy spirit very many times, oh dum believer of any lies they tell you

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:55pm On Jun 14, 2023
johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

"itself" is said once, and "He" is said regarding The Holy spirit very many times, oh dum believer of any lies they tell you


Romans 8:16,26 king James Version


16. "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered"

John W MUMU slave of Trinity.
Continue your LYING on this forum.

Ozuo.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Aemmyjah(m): 1:39pm On Jun 14, 2023
Janosky:


Romans 8:16,26 king James Version


16. "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered"

John W MUMU slave of Trinity.
Continue your LYING on this forum.

Ozuo.

Trust ya
You'd better leave him to his delusions
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:10pm On Jun 14, 2023
Janosky:

Romans 8:16,26 king James version
16. "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered"

lost fraud jw janosky

oh, "itself" is said by the one person twice, while "He" regarding The Holy Spirit is said by multiple persons very many times, oh dum believer of all the lies they tell you.

Janosky:
John W MUMU slave of Trinity.
Continue your LYING on this forum.
Ozuo.

i have said many times that in the beginning there were two not three,
of which mad max has copied me in also saying.
but you liars/false accusers cannot ever stop lying and falsely accusing, can you oh image of the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


habitually lying is a sure sign that you false jw's are not of God,
you are of your god the father of lies though, john 8:44 above

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:19pm On Jun 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:

Trust ya
You'd better leave him to his delusions

lost false jw aemmy

how you false jw's love to encourage each other in your lies

point out the delusions oh son of the devil/the father of lies,

now you come back with them, you hear:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


your sewer mouthed mad max has both of his accounts banned this time,
you all such lawless ones, aren't you dum dum

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Aemmyjah(m): 2:57pm On Jun 14, 2023
Janosky:


Romans 8:16,26 king James Version


16. "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered"

John W MUMU slave of Trinity.
Continue your LYING on this forum.

Ozuo.

You are doing well sir.
Let fools lick foolishness

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:47pm On Jun 14, 2023
Aemmyjah:

You are doing well sir.
Let fools lick foolishness

lost false jw aemmy

like i said and like you keep showing
you false jw's love to support each others lies

the father of lies is clearly the god of you false jw's:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.



habitually lying is a sure sign that you false jw's are not of God,
you are of your god the father of lies though

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:47pm On Jun 15, 2023
Janosky:

The scriptures NEVER said "power of the holy spirit" LYING dimwit.
Jesus breathed holy spirit into the disciples, Jesus did not breath any entity into them.
Your KJV says "spirit itself", Romans 8:16,26.
This John W MUMU
grin grin grin
Power is NOT a person.
Holy spirit is finger of God, full STOP.

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


most dum lost fraud jw janosky

it is not incorrect for the writer to refer to the Holy Spirit as "itself",
as spirit is neutra gender, neither male of female

of course that doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit is not a person
God is a Spirit, so according to your logic, God is not a person

you false jw's are so dum, aren't you, but then you love to deny
and even blaspheme The Holy Spirit:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:00am On Jun 16, 2023
Janosky:

The scriptures NEVER said "power of the holy spirit" LYING dimwit.

truly lost fraud jw janosky

the finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit:

Rom_15:13  Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

most dum one, Jesus cast out demons by the finger of God/by the power of the Holy Spirit in Him:

Luk 11:20 "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.


you not only false teacher/liar like your daddy, you false accuser like him too:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

Janosky:
Power is NOT a person.

duh, the Holy Spirit has power
finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit

Janosky:
Holy spirit is finger of God, full STOP.

not full stop at all most dum one, more specifically: the finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit

false teacher:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


false jw's are: false teachers, false prophets, false accusers, etc.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2023
johnw47:


truly lost fraud jw janosky

the finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit:

Rom_15:13  Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

most dum one, Jesus cast out demons by the finger of God/by the power of the Holy Spirit in Him:

Luk 11:20 "But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.


you not only false teacher/liar like your daddy, you false accuser like him too:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.



duh, the Holy Spirit has power
finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit



not full stop at all most dum one, more specifically: the finger of God is referring to the power of the Holy Spirit




[s]false teacher:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


false jw's are: false teachers, false prophets, false accusers, etc[/s].

@ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Stop DECEIVING YOURSELF and twisting the holy scriptures, was "power of the holy spirit" written there in Luke's and Matthew's gospel?

LYING dullard DECEIVING himself.

Romans 15:13 "power of the holy spirit = the power of the finger of God, @ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28.
Jesus Christ PROVEN that @ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28.

God's finger carrying enormous extraordinary unlimited power.
You either get it or forget about it. grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:12am On Jun 18, 2023
Janosky:
@ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Stop DECEIVING YOURSELF and twisting the holy scriptures, was "power of the holy spirit" written there in Luke's and Matthew's gospel?
LYING dullard DECEIVING himself.

lost fraud jw janosky

matthew 12:28 is about Jesus casting out demons by the Spirit of God,
luke 11:20 is about Jesus casting out demons by the finger of God,

which you say is Jesus casting out demons by the Holy Spirit,
i say more specifically is about Jesus casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit
which is of course correct, you must think Jesus cast out demons by the weakness of the Holy Spirit
you are so dum, aren't you

post the quotes where i lied and twisted the Holy scriptures, oh cannot stop lying false accuser:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Janosky: Romans 15:13 "power of the holy spirit = the power of the finger of God, @ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28.

trouble with you false jw's is you believe The Holy Spirit is power and not a Person,
the verse you mentioned shows that The Holy Spirit is not power but has power:

Rom 15:13  Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit


Janosky: Jesus Christ PROVEN that @ Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28.
God's finger carrying enormous extraordinary unlimited power.
You either get it or forget about it. grin grin

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


yes in your confusion you say something right for once,
God's finger/the Holy Spirit is very powerful:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 8:14pm On Jun 18, 2023
johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

matthew 12:28 is about Jesus casting out demons by the Spirit of God,
luke 11:20 is about Jesus casting out demons by the finger of God,

which you say is Jesus casting out demons by the Holy Spirit,
i say more specifically is about Jesus casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit
which is of course correct, you must think Jesus cast out demons by the weakness of the Holy Spirit
you are so dum, aren't you.

JohnW LIAR, I said God's finger is powerful & you are making FALSE claims , you CAN'T read my mind neither do you know what I think,so continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

johnw47:


post the quotes where i lied and twisted the Holy scriptures, oh cannot stop lying false accuser:

Is the expression "power of the holy spirit" written in Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28?

No ?
God is a Spirit.
Is his finger another distinct 3rd person being?
@Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Jesus Christ says No.
Is the finger of any Spirit another being?
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT, Jesus Christ is a spirit too, you said is God. Is his finger another being?

Trinity na Scam jare.
grin

johnw47:


Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Empty RANTS of a deluded WAILER wey no know holy scriptures..

johnw47:

The trouble with you false jw's is you believe The Holy Spirit is power and not a Person,
the verse you mentioned shows that The Holy Spirit is not power but has power:

Rom 15:13  Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit

The finger of any Spirit is NEVER another distinct person.
Please cure your DELUSION.

johnw47:


Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


yes in your confusion you say something right for once,
God's finger/the Holy Spirit is very powerful:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

You confessed I'm very correct to say God's finger is powerful.
For your mind filled delusion you label it confusion & misquote 1 Corinthians 14:33 & Ecclesiastes 7:6
grin cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:43am On Jun 19, 2023
Janosky:

JohnW LIAR, I said God's finger is powerful & you are making FALSE claims , you CAN'T read my mind neither do you know what I think,so continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

lost fraud jw janosky

you said God's finger is powerful, you also said God's finger is the Holy Spirit,
well once again i say to you, you are right, God's finger/the Holy Spirit is powerful,

but you are confused as hell, what you really believe is that God's finger/the Holy Spirit = power,
so according to you, the power is powerful, u very dum aren't you false accuser like your daddy the devil:

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


Janosky: Is the expression "power of the holy spirit" written in Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28?
No ?

oh duh most dum one, what does that matter, truly Jesus cast out demons by the power
of the Holy Spirit in Him

Janosky: God is a Spirit.
Is his finger another distinct 3rd person being?
@Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Jesus Christ says No.
Is the finger of any Spirit another being?
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT, Jesus Christ is a spirit too, you said is God. Is his finger another being?

oh duh most dummest one, the finger of God is not literally God's finger
but is referring to the Holy Spirit


Janosky:
Trinity na Scam jare. grin
Empty RANTS of a deluded WAILER wey no know holy scriptures..
The finger of any Spirit is NEVER another distinct person.
Please cure your DELUSION.
You confessed I'm very correct to say God's finger is powerful.
For your mind filled delusion you label it confusion & misquote 1 Corinthians 14:33 & Ecclesiastes 7:6
grin cheesy

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


i of course never misquote 1 Corinthians 14:33 & Ecclesiastes 7:6 ,
you do laugh like a fool at your own confused babel, just look at your above quote for one :

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

also:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.



really oh Holy Spirit denier and blasphemer, the Holy Spirit isn't just a power, a active force,
as you false jw's say.

The Holy Spirit has power:
Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit




Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Aemmyjah(m): 1:35am On Jun 19, 2023
Janosky:


JohnW LIAR, I said God's finger is powerful & you are making FALSE claims , you CAN'T read my mind neither do you know what I think,so continue DECEIVING YOURSELF. [/b]


Is the expression "power of the holy spirit" written in Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28?

No ?
God is a Spirit.
Is his finger another distinct 3rd person being?
@Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, Jesus Christ says No.
Is the finger of any Spirit another being?
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT, Jesus Christ is a spirit too, you said is God. Is his finger another being?

Trinity na Scam jare.
grin


Empty RANTS of a deluded WAILER wey no know holy scriptures..


The finger of any Spirit is NEVER another distinct person.
Please cure your DELUSION.



You confessed I'm very correct to say God's finger is powerful.
For your mind filled delusion you label it confusion & misquote 1 Corinthians 14:33 & Ecclesiastes 7:6
grin cheesy

You are doing well
Don't mind deluded man who always blow hot and display ignorance
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:46am On Jun 19, 2023
Aemmyjah:
You are doing well
Don't mind deluded man who always blow hot and display ignorance
lost false jw aemmy

all you can do being of like mind with other false jw's is agree with their confusion and lies:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


when are you going to tell us all those things
that only you know, oh fraud jw
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:20am On Jun 19, 2023
lost fraud jw's janosky & aemmy

since when does Holy Spirit = active force


Holy = sacred, pure
Spirit = air

active = operating
force = power


Holy does not = active
Spirit does not = force

but the Holy Spirit certainly is forceful/powerful:

Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 3:52am On Jun 19, 2023
Aemmyjah:

You are doing well
Don't mind deluded man who always blow hot and display ignorance

lost false jw aemmy

point out the delusions oh fearful one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:35am On Jun 19, 2023
johnw47:
lost fraud jw's janosky & aemmy

since when does Holy Spirit = active force


Holy = sacred, pure
Spirit = air

active = operating
force = power


Holy does not = active
Spirit does not = force

but the Holy Spirit certainly is forceful/powerful:


Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit


JohnW LIAR, MUMU slave of Trinity.

Read the dictionary definition and receive SENSE.

What is the simple definition of force?
a(1) : strength or energy exerted or brought to bear : cause of motion or change : active power. the forces of nature.
Force Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:01pm On Jun 19, 2023
Janosky:
JohnW LIAR, MUMU slave of Trinity.
Read the dictionary definition and receive SENSE.
What is the simple definition of force?
a(1) : strength or energy exerted or brought to bear : cause of motion or change : active power. the forces of nature.
Force Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary

false accuser like your daddy, lost fraud jw janosky

oh duh most dum one, i said force = power, and really: Holy Spirit doesn't = active force


"Holy Spirit" doesn't mean power/active force
the Holy Spirit has power:

Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit




false accuser
Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

confused
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

liar
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

blind
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

johnw47:
lost fraud jw's janosky & aemmy

since when does Holy Spirit = active force


Holy = sacred, pure
Spirit = air

active = operating
force = power


Holy does not = active
Spirit does not = force

but the Holy Spirit certainly is forceful/powerful:

Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 8:09pm On Jun 19, 2023
johnw47:


false accuser like your daddy, lost fraud jw janosky

oh duh most dum one, i said force = power, and really: Holy Spirit doesn't = active force


"Holy Spirit" doesn't mean power/active force
the Holy Spirit has power:

Rom 15:13 Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit




false accuser
Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

confused
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

liar
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

blind
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them


Ozuo pro max grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:49pm On Jun 19, 2023
Janosky:

Ozuo pro max grin grin grin grin

talk about fool, read your posts oh so confused dum dum

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


Act_13:2  While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."

Act_16:6  They passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia;

etc. etc.etc.



lost janosky referring to the Christians Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of the Bible:

"the three dogheads"


lost janosky referring to the Christian's Holy Spirit of the Bible:

"the ole demon ghost"


Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:43am On Jun 26, 2023
i realize the Jehovah witnesses have trouble understanding the written Word of God: but if they were to just open up their dusty old bibles they will see it's written not only in other bibles-its written in their own NWT bible:
{Genesis 1:1} In the beginning {GOD} created the Heavens and the Earth.
{Genesis 1:2} And the {SPIRIT OF GOD} was hovering over the surface of the waters's.
So already we have two beings GOD AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD as One working together both created all things.
{John 1:1} In the beginning the {WORD} already existed, The {WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD}
{John 1:2} He existed in the beginning with {GOD} {GOD CREATED EVERYTHING THROUGH HIM}
So now we have three separated beings {GOD THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD} working together-three beings as One GOD created all things.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:43pm On Jul 06, 2023
{John 1:6-14} There was a man sent from God whose name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe.
He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.
He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
The Jehovah witnesses claim they are God's people, and yet the Word say's His own did not recognize Him. so the Jehovah witnesses do not recognize Him.
Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:46am On Aug 04, 2023
It is written: there's darkness found in those that choose to walk outside the Kingdom of God: spreading false doctrines across the globe, leading people to their deaths without Jesus Christ there is no other God.
I blame the Watchtower: with their disorderly conduct" their corruption their deceit, their misleading lies and wonders leading those claiming to be Jehovah witnesses, they themselves haven't the slightest idea Jesus Christ Lives in the hearts of every man women and child who have chosen to believe.
Where in fact no other name is above Christ Jesus-no other name can save you-and there's no other name we are baptized with, there's only one LORD and Savor. Jesus Christ.

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