freshboi88:


I gave u the baptism of Cornelius and his house hold. U did like u did not see it bro

madegreatbygrace:
And I stand to be corrected that water baptism was only performed twice in the book of Acts. The first was done by Phillip with the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 , and the second is Peter in the house of Cornelius in Acts 10. That should tell you something.

madegreatbygrace:
And I stand to be corrected that water baptism was only performed twice in the book of Acts. The first was done by Phillip with the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 , and the second is Peter in the house of Cornelius in Acts 10. That should tell you something.

Tcwork:

No passage in the bible tells how Cornelius was baptized in your terms

quote author=Tcwork post=96904694]I do not know If I am understanding you. Are you saying that baptism is no longer relevant or that the mode of baptism is lost from the scripture or what really?

quote author=Tcwork post=96904738] More than twice. Remember Paul was baptized

madegreatbygrace:



It’s no longer relevant

freshboi88:


No rush

Do u now agree that scripturally baptism of water doesn't have to be in a body of water like u earlier said?

Tcwork:

No I dont, unless you quote that from a scripture

quote author=Tcwork post=96906445]
Oh oh oh.. your point has been that baptism is no longer relevant anymore. Wow. This is a first time.
Would you mind some scriptural backing?

quote author=[quote]Tcwork post=96906400]

madegreatbygrace:





Read all my posts on this thread

author=Tcwork post=96907478]
Acts 9.18

madegreatbygrace:




You must know the difference between water baptism and being baptized in the name of the Lord.

“Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

One of the several meanings of baptism is to be immersed into something, which is not always water.

When a man hears the gospel and believes, he’s instantly baptized(immersed) into the body of Christ . This has nothing to do with water.

In the foregoing, and many other instances in the book of Acts, Paul heard the gospel and believed and was baptized (NOT With water) into the body. This is when he was officially welcome into the body of Christ. You can’t become a member unless you’re immersed into the body of members.

Here are other instances:

“Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:41‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The instances above are not water baptism but baptism into the body, which is the same as baptism into the name of the Lord.

When it came to water baptism, water was mentioned and it was clear, precise and unequivocal. There are only two instances:

“Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from

I would leave you with the words of Jesus in
John3.5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
It is either you are right or Jesus Christ is right. Who do we believe?
You are claiming that there is another type of baptism. None of those verses you quoted even slightly suggest such.
You just decided on your own that these verses must be talking of another type of baptism.
No single verse in the bible talks ofor 2 different kinds of baptisms.
The book of Ephesians talks about one baptism.
Any man nothe born of water and the spirit cannot enter the kingdom of God

madegreatbygrace:




You must know the difference between water baptism and being baptized in the name of the Lord.

“Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

One of the several meanings of baptism is to be immersed into something, which is not always water.

When a man hears the gospel and believes, he’s instantly baptized(immersed) into the body of Christ . This has nothing to do with water.

In the foregoing, and many other instances in the book of Acts, Paul heard the gospel and believed and was baptized (NOT With water) into the body. This is when he was officially welcome into the body of Christ. You can’t become a member unless you’re immersed into the body of members.

Here are other instances:

“Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:41‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The instances above are not water baptism but baptism into the body, which is the same as baptism into the name of the Lord.

When it came to water baptism, water was mentioned and it was clear, precise and unequivocal. There are only two instances:

“Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


““Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have? ””
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:47‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

madegreatbygrace:



Before you start jumping up and down, note this.
The problem most Christians have is that they don’t read the Bible together. Reading the Bible together means reading the whole book from Genesis to revelation consistently, so as to get a better understanding.

Kenneth Hagin once said this:

“ You can’t build a doctrine around the book of acts because the narratives revolve around a young church that had not fully understood the finished work “.


I totally agree with him on this.

Why?

Because the early church didn’t get everything right at the early stage. It is an eyewitness account and not a book of revelation which can be used for doctrines. They made mistakes. They learnt, unlearned and relearned.


Examples?

“But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:35‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I’m sure Peter had wished he didn’t make the above statement because God doesn’t accept those who WORK righteousness. He accepts those that have faith in Christ Jesus.

I could give you more instances where they initially got it wrong.


Now consider this:

“I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭1:14-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What!

A whole Apostle is thanking God he only baptized a few. He went on further to say Christ didn’t send him to baptize. This is when the full revelation came, when they finally realized the significance of water baptism.

Freshboi87:


MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.

Stop saying what you don't know sir. Read Jesus's command.

Tcwork:

I am not getting your point. All baptism is done in the name of the father son and holy ghost.
Baptism is not just taking a bath. It's a spiritual ordinace done in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost.
That is the meaning of baptism.
Simple it means to immerse in water in the name of the Father the Son and Holy Ghost.
Please if there is another way kindly explain it

Tcwork:
You keep showing me scripture's that talk about getting baptized. I agree to all those scriptures. The issue is that you are saying these scriptures were talking ofor a new kind of baptism. Yet you have not shown anything to prove this.
Where was it indicated that these baptism was carried out without water?