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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 12:31pm On Dec 18, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s]
Tao11 the pathological liar grin....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other cheesy


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people? grin

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence) cheesy

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" grin....how Igbo does that get? grin grin

cc Adadike

I knew obatala was igbo, you just clarified that now

Yorubas have nothing of thiers they are just borrowers
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Itohanprefa: 12:35pm On Dec 18, 2020
TAO11:
LMAO! You really can’t guarantee me that you won’t be crying to the mods like you did the last time ??

Wonderful! grin
My miserable little beech Tao!! grin

My little psychopath that likes his own posts with multiple accounts....My crackhead half-crazy beech grin

How did you like the new phase of life I opened in your miserable drug-addict life? cool

Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 12:45pm On Dec 18, 2020
TAO11:
LMAO! You really can’t guarantee me that you won’t be crying to the mods like you did the last time ??

Wonderful! grin

Those same mods that banned we edos unjustfully for destroying you and your brothers helping you to cry every minute

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 12:46pm On Dec 18, 2020
Itohanprefa:
My miserable little beech Tao!! grin

My little psychopath that likes his own posts with multiple accounts....My crackhead half-crazy beech grin

How did you like the new phase of life I opened in your miserable drug-addict life? cool

Lol, misrable beech
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Itohanprefa: 12:50pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:


Lol, misrable beech
The person behind that Tao11 handle is a drug addict, it's very obvious cheesy cheesy

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 12:57pm On Dec 18, 2020
Itohanprefa:
The person behind that Tao11 handle is a drug addict, it's very obvious cheesy cheesy

She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by LegendHero(m): 1:09pm On Dec 18, 2020
TAO11:
I really do hope you won't see me as a bully again when I begin with you? cheesy

Have you gathered enough stamina this time around? There must be no tears this time around. cheesy

Also, no crying to the mods like you did the last time. Again, do not call me a bully this time around.

Cc: LegendHero, does this guy look familiar? cheesy

I think he might be that other guy. I forgot his moniker, but he is the one that likes derailing thread on that Igbo civilization thread.

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Etrusen(m): 1:52pm On Dec 18, 2020
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gregyboy:


She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan
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gregyboy:


She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan
gregyboy:


She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:15pm On Dec 18, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s]
Tao11 the pathological liar grin....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other cheesy


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people? grin

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence) cheesy

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" grin....how Igbo does that get? grin grin

cc Adadike
we don't do folktales here Mr man or is it lady* in gregyboy voice* cite your source, the author and the date
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:18pm On Dec 18, 2020
Edeyoung:



Can you prove piunded yam and eguisi is yoruba
I never said pounded yam originated from Yoruba land, did I?
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:20pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:

I knew obatala was igbo, you just clarified that now
Yorubas have nothing of thiers they are just borrowers
obatala is Igbo?* clap hands* wonder shall never end,why you mumu like this?
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:25pm On Dec 18, 2020
Igbo's had no history until the colonial period, even Hausa's are well informed about their history, so how can people who had not been informed about their history be informed about the history of others.... Igbo people don't let me vex for you o
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:26pm On Dec 18, 2020
Itohanprefa:
My miserable little beech Tao!! grin

My little psychopath that likes his own posts with multiple accounts....My crackhead half-crazy beech grin

How did you like the new phase of life I opened in your miserable drug-addict life? cool
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:27pm On Dec 18, 2020
Itohanprefa:
My miserable little beech Tao!! grin

My little psychopath that likes his own posts with multiple accounts....My crackhead half-crazy beech grin

How did you like the new phase of life I opened in your miserable drug-addict life? cool
madam waitin happen? I sense hatred in this your reply

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:32pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:


She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan

actually you have never beaten Tao in any argument, it happens the other way round, Tao has smacked your butt several times, Even your Benin brothers bears witness, they couldn't save you from Tao because of your untame mouth, you kept in speaking trash the more you are been smacked till you entered mild depression
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Newton85: 2:50pm On Dec 18, 2020
Ideadoctor:

we don't do folktales here Mr man or is it lady* in gregyboy voice* cite your source, the author and the date

Lol, this miseducated dude Hellraiser77 is only regurgitating the ahistorical dross the late delusional Catherine Acholonu fed them. Infact, if you read Acholonu's nonsensical, spurious book "They Lived Before Adam," you'll read that all human beings on earth are descended from Igbos, lmao.

The codeine-influenced claim that Obatala was an Igbo came from Acholonu when she went to Cuba and saw an inscription "Obatala Oba Igbo" somewhere there and automatically concluded Obatala was Igbo, lol. So, if an award-winning "historian" like Catherine Acholonu could make up some ahistorical horseshit like Obatala being Igbo or that all human beings are descended from Igbos, what do you expect of a bunch of credulous dimwits on Nairaland?

The Bini will claim ownership of Yoruba deities/oracles like Ogun, Shango (which they call Ishango), Osun, Orunmila, Olokun, Eshu, while Igbos are now claiming Obatala. Yoruba don suffer, lol.

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 2:51pm On Dec 18, 2020
Newton85:


Lol, this miseducated IPOB dude Hellraiser77 is only regurgitating the ahistorical dross the late delusional Catherine Acholonu fed them. Infact, if you read Acholonu's nonsensical, spurious book "They Lived Before Adam," you'll read that all human beings on earth are descended from Igbos, lmao.

The codeine-influenced claim that Obatala was an Igbo came from Acholonu when she went to Cuba and saw an inscription "Obatala Oba Igbo" somewhere there and automatically concluded Obatala was Igbo, lol. So, if an award-winning "historian" like Catherine Acholonu could make up some ahistorical horseshit like Obatala being Igbo or that all human beings are descended from Igbos, what do you expect of a bunch credulous dimwits on Nairaland.

The Bini will claim ownership of Yoruba deities/oracles like Ogun, Shango (which they call Ishango), Osun, Orunmila, Olokun, Eshu, while Igbos are now claiming Obatala. Yoruba don suffer, lol.
my brother I tire,na so Yoruba culture too sweet

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 3:10pm On Dec 18, 2020
Newton85:


Lol, this miseducated dude Hellraiser77 is only regurgitating the ahistorical dross the late delusional Catherine Acholonu fed them. Infact, if you read Acholonu's nonsensical, spurious book "They Lived Before Adam," you'll read that all human beings on earth are descended from Igbos, lmao.

The codeine-influenced claim that Obatala was an Igbo came from Acholonu when she went to Cuba and saw an inscription "Obatala Oba Igbo" somewhere there and automatically concluded Obatala was Igbo, lol. So, if an award-winning "historian" like Catherine Acholonu could make up some ahistorical horseshit like Obatala being Igbo or that all human beings are descended from Igbos, what do you expect of a bunch of credulous dimwits on Nairaland?

The Bini will claim ownership of Yoruba deities/oracles like Ogun, Shango (which they call Ishango), Osun, Orunmila, Olokun, Eshu, while Igbos are now claiming Obatala. Yoruba don suffer, lol.


Isango, olokun, orunomila are edo deities

Osun is not ours
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 3:35pm On Dec 18, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s]
Tao11 the pathological liar grin....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other cheesy


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people? grin

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence) cheesy

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" grin....how Igbo does that get? grin grin

cc Adadike


While I acknowledged TAO11 was talking trash but this is another load of a higher trash.

Igbos are not so stupid to believe in useless fabrications.


You called obatala and it sounds igbo to your own meaning and you are regurgitating nonsense.

Education is a waste in Nigeria.

I remember so very vividly when Ooni of Ife referenced the obatala nonsense to igbo but was immediately cautioned by well seasoned scholars who are sound in learning.

While they acknowledge obatala might means something in igbo, they clearly told Ooni that there was no shared history and obatala as a Yoruba word has its meaning and interpretation to the Yorubas and means nothing to an igbo man


Nairaland is full of pathetic and one book historians.


As far as this is concerned, the word and name has no meaning to an Igbo man and it is an outright nonsense for someone to even write this gibberish.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 18, 2020
Ideadoctor:
Igbo's had no history until the colonial period, even Hausa's are well informed about their history, so how can people who had not been informed about their history be informed about the history of others.... Igbo people don't let me vex for you o

Yorubas is a recent acronymn. stop the noise.

Unless we table the colonial history of Yorubas here in a fatal way.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 3:41pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:


I knew obatala was igbo, you just clarified that now

Yorubas have nothing of thiers they are just borrowers

Obatala is nothing near igbo let alone an igbo man.

Using words that sounds and have meaning maybe in igbo to say that obatala is Igbo is stewwwpiddity in another angle.

Infact the obatala of an issue is alien to ndigbo and as such the fallacy is dead and buried.

Obatala is yoruba and that's yoruba history.

Anyone fabricating nonsense deserves to be flogged.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 3:42pm On Dec 18, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Yorubas is a recent acronymn. stop the noise.

Unless we table the colonial history of Yorubas here in a fatal way.
yes Yoruba us is a recent acronym, but you, you have no history

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Ideadoctor(m): 3:44pm On Dec 18, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Obatala is nothing near igbo let alone an igbo man.

Using words that sounds and have meaning maybe in igbo to say that obatala is Igbo is stewwwpiddity in another angle.

Infact the obatala of an issue is alien to ndigbo and as such the fallacy is dead and buried.

Obatala is yoruba and that's yoruba history.

Anyone fabricating nonsense deserves to be flogged.
now you are talking
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 3:45pm On Dec 18, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Obatala is nothing near igbo let alone an igbo man.

Using words that sounds and have meaning maybe in igbo to say that obatala is Igbo is stewwwpiddity in another angle.

Infact the obatala of an issue is alien to ndigbo and as such the fallacy is dead and buried.

Obatala is yoruba and that's yoruba history.

Anyone fabricating nonsense deserves to be flogged.

Researchers have it that obatala came from tge east, from the igbos to the west
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 3:48pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:


Researchers have it that obatala came from tge east, from the igbos to the west

Mr there is nothing like that..

Such researcers are totally lazy..

Igbos don't encourage nonsense and this fabrications is an outright nonsense.


We don't go about fabricating history, Igbos history stands out and glare without any single logic to it.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by gregyboy(m): 3:49pm On Dec 18, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Mr there is nothing like that..

Such researcers are totally lazy..

Igbos don't encourage nonsense and this fabrications is an outright nonsense.


We don't go about fabricating history, Igbos history stands out and glare without any single logic to it.


Hellraiser77 objects this
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:



Hellraiser77 objects this

I am not interested unless maybe the obatala is from his community and local government...case closed.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by Newton85: 4:06pm On Dec 18, 2020
gregyboy:



Isango, olokun, orunomila are edo deities

Osun is not ours

So, Isango (Bini's corruption of Yoruba deity Shango/Sango) is Edo? Olokun, which is the god of the sea and literally means "owner of the sea" in Yoruba is Edo? Orunmila Agbonniregun baba Ifa is also Edo? Is Ayelala, the Ilaje deity worshipped by you Edo/Bini people the next Yoruba deity you want to steal? Lol, go and sleep Edeyoung, you're drunk.

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by samuk: 4:51pm On Dec 18, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s]
Tao11 the pathological liar grin....you have ressurected me by mentioning Igbos again in your unending stream of lies which I will thrash one after the other cheesy


( 1) Igbos remain the oldest Distinct group of people in modern day Nigeria with a history dating back to 6,000 years ago
The remains in Iwo eleru(which are not really human remains as you claimed) dates back to 43,000 years while yorubas only started settling the area around 12th century, how could this be the ancestors of Yoruba people? grin

Igbo people that spoke a language very closely related to modern igbo resided in Ile ife before yoruba started coming into the area from modern day Kogi state.

(2) Obatala who is the first Oba in Ile ife(Igbo omoku) is an Igbo priest, so clearly Igbos ruled yoruba in Igbo omoku (ask me for evidence) cheesy

Agreed the moremi episode has Little to do with modern day south Eastern Igbos but with a distinct Igbo group that inhabited ife(Igbo omoku) prior to yoruba arrival(s).

The moremi stories are absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them, the Igbos mentioned in the moremi story are now in ondo state as the ugbo people and they preserve alot of their Igbo traits till this day.


To anybody doubting the Igbo roots of ugbo people note that the most successful ruler of ugbo/igbo people while they where in ile Ife(Igbo omoku) is named "Ekenwa" grin....how Igbo does that get? grin grin

cc Adadike

I believe the present Ooni of Ife actually stated that Igbo people were the original inhabitants of Ife. I know those without any link to Ife will argue this and even insult the Ooni.
Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by TAO11(f): 4:53pm On Dec 18, 2020
samuk:
I believe the present Ooni of Ife actually stated that Igbo people were the original inhabitants of Ife. I know those without any link to Ife will argue this and even insult the Ooni.
According to Ife religious belief, every human in the world is from Ife.

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Re: Oguta Land In Imo State Is An Extension Of Benin Empire by samuk: 4:55pm On Dec 18, 2020
TAO11:
According to Ife religious belief, every human in the world is from Ife.

So what is your argument with Hellraiser77

Ooni of Ife and the Igbo-Yoruba relationship
ON AUGUST 11, 20193:05 AMIN THE ORBIT


By Obi Nwakanma


The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.

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