samuk:
Ooni of Ife and the Igbo-Yoruba relationship
ON AUGUST 11, 20193:05 AMIN THE ORBIT


By Obi Nwakanma


The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.

Thank you for buttressing my point with more details.

All humans (including south-easterners and Chinese, et al.) are from Ife according to Ife religious belief.

“Even the white man’s sovereign will be shown the spot in Ife from where his ancestors left.”

~ Paraphrase of Chief Seriki of Ijebu-Ode reply to Higgins’ team in the late 1800s.

Newton85:


So, Isango (Bini's corruption of Yoruba deity Shango/Sango) is Edo? Olokun, which is the god of the sea and literally means "owner of the sea" in Yoruba is Edo? Orunmila Agbonniregun baba Ifa is also Edo? Is Ayelala, the Ilaje deity worshipped by you Edo/Bini people the next Yoruba deity you want to steal? Lol, go and sleep Edeyoung, you're drunk.

Dont put yourself in trouble by claiming all this idol are yorubas

Inshort were did olokun originate from according to you

samuk:


So what is your argument with Hellraiser77

Ooni of Ife and the Igbo-Yoruba relationship
ON AUGUST 11, 20193:05 AMIN THE ORBIT


By Obi Nwakanma


The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.

That religious belief is not necessarily a presentation of history, dullard!

In other words, the south eastern-Igbos are not necessarily historically descended from Ife just as the Chinese aren't necessarily historically descended from Ife.

That you need this to be broken down to you is very telling. How old are you? LMAO!

gregyboy:


I knew obatala was igbo, you just clarified that now

Yorubas have nothing of thiers they are just borrowers

Stale...

Edeyoung:




Grand master of everlasting slavery even in modern days



The language of the slave yoruba


The modern day slaves..... To the hausa

Twale for una


TAO11
TAO12
Balogunodua
Newton
Gomojam
Ideadoctor

Lolzzz....

We all know who the real undisputed slaves are in Nigeria those whose sisters, aunties and mothers are been trafficked on daily basis all over Europe for prostitution...haha...what a shame

TAO11:
That religious belief is not necessarily a presentation of history, dullard!

In other words, the south eastern-Igbos are not necessarily historically descended from Ife just as the Chinese aren't necessarily historically descended from Ife.

That you need this to be broken down to you is very telling. How old are you? LMAO!

You are such a fool to think insults wins arguments, those that find it easier to insults don't usually have anything in their brains. If you believe in the power of your argument and submissions why quick to insults?

As usual what you presented as evidence has no relevance to the debate on Igbo being the original inhabitants of Ife.

As I initially predicted those without links to Ife are now indirectly insulting the Ooni for saying Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife.

adadike:
being the oldest tribe in Nigeria, I believe the great igbos once rule over Benin empire and to an extent yorubaland. The story of moremi even confirmed it. I also heard that in those days even till date, that before a new king will ascend the throne of Benin , emmisaries must be sent to Nri. I heard it's done in secret to avoid pride and insults

Moremi has nothing to do with Igbos (Ibos) so stop spreading false information.....go back to politics section.

samuk:


You are such a fool to think insults wins arguments, those that find it easier to insults don't usually have anything in their brains. If you believe in the power of your argument and submissions why quick to insults?

As usual what you presented as evidence has no relevance to the debate on Igbo being the original inhabitants of Ife.

As I initially predicted those without links to Ife are not indirectly insulting the Ooni for saying Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife.

Trash............................

Newton85:


So, Isango (Bini's corruption of Yoruba deity Shango/Sango) is Edo? Olokun, which is the god of the sea and literally means "owner of the sea" in Yoruba is Edo? Orunmila Agbonniregun baba Ifa is also Edo? Is Ayelala, the Ilaje deity worshipped by you Edo/Bini people the next Yoruba deity you want to steal? Lol, go and sleep Edeyoung, you're drunk.

Everything is yoruba mugu


So Benin went to all Yoruba people and stole them and started worshiping it



They went to lagos, stole lagos deity, went to ilaje
Stole that of ilaje, when to oyo stole ogboni
Went ife stole ifa

Benin they theif sha, can you imagine our bini ancestors waka full Yorubaland go they theif their idol dey worship, them nor only theif am from one Yorubaland but all Yoruba places

Lol, abi na some people nor just get common sense of reasoning

When one becomes kin to defend his people even the wrongs of his people against another becomes justify by him..... Foolishness indeed begins to abound gradually


Where are you from young man if you're a yoruba man from the middle belt or a Yoruba Muslim i will understand the reason for your writeup maybe little knowledge about core yoruba or little educational background that inflicts the north

But if you're a Yoruba Christian from the south then you must be on drugs

My next question is, how did the said idol get to benin, if they were originally from Yorubaland


How many yoruba tribe are you from that you are boasting like you're were fathered by all men from all yoruba clan so you know and have authority to defend idols ownerships around all yoruba tribe

Or are you just moved with some yoruba tribalistic obsession, being obsessed over a thing makes one mad Tao11 is one mad lady right now, i dont want you to be like her

Before you mention me again go to my profile and look for olokun worship thread i created after seeing it, you can then decide if you would mention me again

Bye bye yoruba obsessed nigga

samuk:
[s]You are such a fool to think insults wins arguments, those that find it easier to insults don't usually have anything in their brains. If you believe in the power of your argument and submissions why quick to insults?

As usual what you presented as evidence has no relevance to the debate on Igbo being the original inhabitants of Ife.

As I initially predicted those without links to Ife are now indirectly insulting the Ooni for saying Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife.[/s]

I never insulted you. I only called you a dullard.


Moreover, all Yorubas have some links to Ife. I am Awori/Ijebu — hence, I am from Ife. My mother is a princess of Ife.

You, on the other hand, are a juvenile slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. Hence you remain my slave forever?

Moreover, all humans in the world are originally descended from Ife (including south-eastern Igbos and Chinese) according to Ife belief.

So, the statement you mindlessly attributed to the Ooni only serves to confirm this belief.

gregyboy:



Everything is yoruba mugu


So Benin went to all Yoruba people and stole them and started worshiping it



They went to lagos, stole lagos deity, went to ilaje
Stole that of ilaje, when to oyo stole ogboni
Went ife stole ifa

Benin they theif sha, can you imagine our bini ancestors waka full Yorubaland go they theif their idol dey worship, them nor only theif am from one Yorubaland but all Yoruba places

Lol, abi na some people nor just get common sense of reasoning

When one becomes kin to defend his people even the wrongs of his people against another becomes justify by him..... Foolishness indeed begins to abound gradually


Where are you from young man if you're a yoruba man from the middle belt or a Yoruba Muslim i will understand the reason for your writeup maybe little knowledge about core yoruba or little educational background that inflicts the north

But if you're a Yoruba Christian from the south then you must be on drugs

My next question is, how did the said idol get to benin, if they were originally from Yorubaland


How many yoruba tribe are you from that you are boasting like you're were fathered by all men from all yoruba clan so you know and have authority to defend idols ownerships around all yoruba tribe

Or are you just moved with some yoruba tribalistic obsession, being obsessed over a thing makes one mad Tao11 is one mad lady right now, i dont want you to be like her

Before you mention me again go to my profile and look for olokun worship thread i created after seeing it, you can then decide if you would mention me again

Bye bye yoruba obsessed nigga

You TAO11 your nightmare..

Trolling and insults won't stop her from dealing with you you even went as far as aligning with the same hellraiser77 who called you TAO's rag to attack her confused Edo miscreant...

Balogunodua:

You TAO11 your nightmare..

Trolling and insults won't stop her from dealing with you you even went as far as aligning with the same hellraiser77 who called you TAO's rag to attack her confused Edo miscreant...

She/he is scared to quote me anymore because i keep fucking her into exile


Did Tao11 pay you to cry for hef kwara boy

TAO11:
I never insulted you. I only called you a dullard.


Moreover, all Yorubas have some links to Ife. I am Awori/Ijebu — hence, I am from Ife. My mother is a princess of Ife.

You, on the other hand, are a juvenile slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. Hence you remain my slave forever?

Moreover, all humans in the world are originally descended from Ife (including south-eastern Igbos and Chinese) according to Ife belief.

So, the statement you mindlessly attributed to the Ooni only serves to confirm this belief.

You have dealt with them to the extent of confusion Ooni said this...Ooni said that but they won't believe if Ooi said Oba of Benin is the son of Oranmiyan...

gregyboy:


She/he is scared to quote me anymore because i keep fucking her into exile

Opposite....

Balogunodua:

You have dealt with them to the extent of confusion Ooni said this...Ooni said that but they won't believe if Ooi said Oba of Benin is the son of Oranmiyan...

I mean, I actually don’t mind if they accept the Ife belief that south-eastern Igbo people (just every human belong in the world) are originally from Ife.

Every religion and culture wants its beliefs out there as far as possible.

What doesn’t exist (at least yet) is historically evidence to substantiate the belief.

Balogunodua:

You have dealt with them to the extent of confusion Ooni said this...Ooni said that but they won't believe if Ooi said Oba of Benin is the son of Oranmiyan...

if we apply that logic to benins against yorubas you guys become victim


You guys agree with the oba of benin that Oronmiyan was a king in benin

But when he says oduduwa is from benin all your head suddenly becomes to heavy

Last last oduduwa story na made up myth

Balogunodua:

Opposite....

Then tell her to mention me and reply me, if you wont see part two play

TAO11:
I never insulted you. I only called you a dullard.


Moreover, all Yorubas have some links to Ife. I am Awori/Ijebu — hence, I am from Ife. My mother is a princess of Ife.

You, on the other hand, are a juvenile slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. Hence you remain my slave forever?

Moreover, all humans in the world are originally descended from Ife (including south-eastern Igbos and Chinese) according to Ife belief.

So, the statement you mindlessly attributed to the Ooni only serves to confirm this belief.

You reduced and rubbished what the Ooni said to myth which has no historical backing by your suggestion that the whites and Chinese are also from Ife.

TAO11:
I mean, I actually don’t mind if they accept the Ife belief that south-eastern Igbo people (just every human belong in the world) are originally from Ife.

Every religion and culture wants its beliefs out there as far as possible.

What doesn’t exist (at least yet) is historically evidence to substantiate the belief.

That make her decieve you, in that screenshot after debunking her claims she became ventfull

And scornful and she started spitting firey curse words from her mouth all for what because i disprove her ife/bini claims, i told her she should stop quoting me until she learns some manner of approach...

But instead she kept quoting me upon my several
Warnings until i decided to go rogues in her before she has sense

Cc: Balogunodua

Refer to timestamp 1:26 for an amazing disclosure from a bold Edo man whose default lies hit minimum.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqso2h2gRDw

Moreover, refer him to the screenshots below as a gentle reminder for why he was disqualified.

samuk:
[s]You reduced and rubbished what the Ooni said to myth which has no historical backing by your suggestion that the whites and Chinese are also from Ife.[/s]

Insecure mumu boy! How old are you? LMAO!

Yes, Europeans, Chinese, South-Eastern Nigerians, and all humanity for that matter are originally descended from Ife — according to Ife beliefs.

Yes, it is mythology. A religious belief of the Ife and all Yorubas — a belief which I also uphold till date! Haha!

“Even the English king can be shown the spot at Ile-Ife from where his ancestors went out.” ~ Chief Ogunsigun of Ijebu-Ode to Henry Higgins, 1886.

“the Ifes ... were the fathers of all and all people came from Ife.” ~ Alaafin of Oyo to Henry Higgins, 1886.



Kill ya self!

TAO11:
Cc: Balogunodua

Refer to Refer to timestamp 1:26 for his revelation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqso2h2gRDw

Moreover, refer him to the screenshots below as a gentle reminder for why he was disqualified.

Should i bring the screenshot that says ooni ogboni is fron bini by a yoruba man

TAO11:
Insecure mumu boy! How old are you? LMAO!

Yes, Europeans and Chinese, south-easterners, and all humans are originally from Ife — according to Ife beliefs.

Yes, it is mythology. A religious belief of the Ife and all Yorubas — a belief which I also uphold till date! Haha!

Kill ya self!

Balogunodua thanks for the trutg, truth fit you better than lies

Juliusmalema:
While I acknowledged TAO11 was talking trash but this is another load of a higher trash. •••

You appear to agree with everything I said; but you still, for some reasons, manage to regard those very things as trash.

Is everything okay with you?

gregyboy:


She/he is scared to quote me anymore because i keep fucking her into exile


Did Tao11 pay you to cry for hef kwara boy

She has made you irrelevant in culture section

TAO11:


You appear to agree with everything I said; but you still, for some reasons, manage to regard those very things as trash.

Is everything okay with you?

Agree? Hmmm

The moment you feel you are right in everything then there is no need to even add my voice to it.

Moreover I am more of a spectator in culture section because I am not active here in anyway.

Finally, I don't like arguing what doesn't exist, I term it waste of time and space and that's the more reason I watch from sideline as you and Edos put your histories to right perspective to some how agree and disagree.

I have no business Interfering, it is a bad attitude.

gregyboy:



Balogunodua thanks for the trutg, truth fit you better than lies

What is your point exactly

Balogunodua:

Lolzzz....

We all know who the real undisputed slaves are in Nigeria those whose sisters, aunties and mothers are been trafficked on daily basis all over Europe for prostitution...haha...what a shame

when people are talking about slavery, Edo people should keep shut,you don't play with fire when you have fuel on you.....walahi gregyboy if you provoke me I will post the pictures of your sex slaves sister who were recently rescued, African slavery has ended but not for Edo people, why?

gregyboy:


Then tell her to mention me and reply me, if you wont see part two play

You are begging for her attention....

Ideadoctor:
when people are talking about slavery, Edo people should keep shut,you don't play with fire when you have fuel on you.....walahi gregyboy if you provoke me I will post the pictures of your sex slaves sister who were recently rescued, African slavery has ended but not for Edo people, why?

Slavery is in their blood (DNA)....

Juliusmalema:
Agree? Hmmm

The moment you feel you are right in everything then there is no need to even add my voice to it.

Moreover I am more of a spectator in culture section because I am not active here in anyway.

Finally, I don't like arguing what doesn't exist, I term it waste of time and space and that's the more reason I watch from sideline as you and Edos put your histories to right perspective to some how agree and disagree.

I have no business Interfering, it is a bad attitude.

I debunked the idea that south-eastern Igbo people have anything to do historically with Ile-Ife and hence the Moremi episode.

You reiterated that very same point I made, but you still found a way of calling it trash. This is the specific issue I’m calling you out on.

How you get to know what I’m feeling inside me (per the bolded), or where you got such idea from is not really what I “Quoted” you for.

Cheers!

Balogunodua:

What is your point exactly

I wonder oo. He keeps repeating the screenshot like he stumbled upon a scientific invention.