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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Sulele04(m): 12:18am On Jun 18, 2021
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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by SirNewtonNG: 7:07am On Feb 25, 2022
TAO11:
There is no primary evidence to substantiate these claims. They’re all a trickle down and fall out of Egharevba’s initial claims.

However, the point I am correcting is not even that. The point I am correcting is as follows:

(1) No Edo prince ruled as king in any part of Lagos — Island or mainland.

(2) No Bini conquered any part of Lagos — Island or mainland.

The original accounts which claims otherwise on these two points are the latter-day claims made by Chief Egharevba in the 1950s — hence historians call it the Benin account.

On the other hand, the account which originates from Lagos itself came more than 50 years earlier than the Benin account, and it states the very two points I noted above.

I’m preparing to make a thread on this soon. I’m trying to lay my hands again on some of the materials I’d be needing for the purpose.

TAO11 please we need you to make multiple threads on multiple topics ma. We meed topics controlled from us that will educate this miscreants grin

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by SirNewtonNG: 7:14am On Feb 25, 2022
TAO11:
Yes, this is quite true (at least up to the 1600s) and not only of Benin Royal, but for Benin kingdom and most region around the coast.

The people spoke the Yoruba language as a lingua-franca in addition to having their own various local dialects.

Father Comlumin of Nantes who visited Benin Kingdom in the 1600s and wrote from there, as an eyewitness observer, back home to the French authorities on the prospect of establishing a missionary base has the following to say:

In this Kingdom [of Benin] the people may very easily be led to embrace the faith, and priests can live here with greater ease than in other parts of Guinea because of the healthy climate ... Their language is simple it is called Licomin language [Yoruba languge] and is universally used in these parts, just like Latin in Europe.

@Etinosa1234, I noticed you updated your mention to @Obalufon with some very hilarious special pleading. cheesy

Did you really have to stretch yourself to the laughable extreme that the Father Columbin of Nantes must have found it difficult to ask who is Bini and who is not? smiley

You also had to lie to yourself that the Father (rather than asking the people what the universal language was) simply took it upon himself to guess it out. Lol.

These are very convenient jokes actually. I do hope that they served their purpose of helping you cope and deal with the unnecessary embarrassment you felt.

Moreover, the very Licomin lingua-franca spoken throughout the coast (including in Benin kingdom as reported by the Father) is the same Alkomijis which Dapper also wrote about.

Dapper wrote that the Yoruba language was also spoken as the lingua-franca in the Aja kingdom of Allada also on the coast. Dapper writes in relation to this same phenomenon in 1668 as follows:

Their own mother tongue is by them little regarded; therefore they seldom speak it; but they are obliged to speak mostly Alkomijis [Yoruba] which in their own country is regarded as a noble language.

In sum then, contrary to your assumption; this is not a phenomenon restricted to Benin kingdom alone, nor are these reports claiming that the Yoruba language is the only language which these people knew.

No! This is a phenomenon observed by the Europeans throughout much of the West African coast, around the 1600s.

Also, the peoples’ own native languages (or dialects) were never absent from them at any time even as they all speak the mutually intelligible lingua-franca.

Moreover, the Spanish Jesuit, Alonso de Sandoval, also in the 1600s, alluded to the fact that Lucumies were employed right in the palace administration of Benin.

In conclusion, this phenomenon of the Yoruba language been widely used throughout much of the coast was not an isolated phenomenon; and it is nothing to worry or feel inferior about.

Cheers!

Omo TAO11 the beni miscreants destroyer. This one na bulldozer in knife fight o. cool

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by SirNewtonNG: 11:58am On Feb 27, 2022
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Another pea-brained slowpoke surfaces. Segun Toyin Dawodu is your fellow Edo man, lmao! He didn't even come up with those praise names. He's the founder of Edonation.net, the number one revisionist site where ahistorical junks are made up for the consumption of you nitwits. But how would you know Segun Toyin Dawodu was your fellow Edo man when you people have stolen Yoruba things/names to the brim, lol. Bunch of shameless people. Oya, is Olumide Akpata a Yoruba man or Edo? Lmao.

I'm 100% sure that this so called segun put his name as yoruba on purpose for an agenda to show that maybe a yoruba person agrees with the their revisionism
Its now so funny to see how it has come back to bite them on this thread grin
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by jneutron4000: 11:25pm On Feb 28, 2022
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Oni was the chief priest of Ifa from the beginning before Awolowo changed Ooni priesthood into kingship. The ultimate king of Yoruba is Alaffi of Oyo.
The same position of Ooni was the position of Ogiefa of Benin, Ogiefa was the diviners and priest of Efa as Onni is priest of Ifa. Benin call it Efa, Urhobo call it Efa, Igbo call it Afa too, Yoruba call it Ifa.
#Photospeak.

TAO11 Oya come and start wailing grin

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