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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by samuk: 3:30pm On Dec 15, 2020
gregyboy:



The oba of benin version is also a lie ridoff our history from myth i beg you.....

You will think you're doing it good but you ain't

The oba of benin version is a lie too

Guy, the purpose of what I posted was not to show or imply that the Oba of Benin version was right, how could you even come to such conclusion when the same reference said archeological findings dates Ife to the 16th century.

If you are familiar with the Benin/Ife relationship, you would realised that Oranmiyan coming to Benin was dated to the 12th century, how could this be if archeological findings only dates Ife to the 16th century?

Please always read and understand. I submitted and highlighted the bit that was relevant to my argument, I could have deleted the rest I didn't agree with but it would have been disingenuous.

I like to present the full picture and then debate it rather than presenting half of what was said.

I hope I have made myself clear enough, besides this is not the first time of reading my submissions on Benin/Ife relationship and I expected you to have known my stand on it by now.

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by samuk: 3:38pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:

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how logical is your statement above, you said the Yoruba until recent call Benin people as IFA people, you said the Benin taught IFA divinations to the Yorubas.....are you serious or just been mischievous? through out the world everyone knows that the Yoruba people invented the IFA divination system, the IFA chants are recited in Yoruba, mentioning the experience and life of Yoruba orishas and prominent deified anscenstor. Orunmila was the actual founder of IFA, with his philosophy of " what has happen before is still what will happen,nothing is new under the son" orunmila traveled the length and breadth of Yoruba cities teaching them IFA, orunmila had compiled 256 0du( verses) these verses contain all experiences that everyman pass through in life, in order to memorize the enormous odus,orunmila used the mnemonic device of chanting, chanting makes it easy and fun to learn the 256 odus, any one who succeeded in learning the odus is called a " Babalawo" an initiate,to recognized and distinguish odus orunmila use a form of binary coding, a specific odu is represented by a specific pattern, palm nut is used to acquire pattern of odus for divination,opele is another instrument used for divination..... Yoruba ifa divination was introduced to colony States such has Dahomey and Bini, it was introduced to the igalas through normal religious influence, IFA as gone worldwide as a result of the Atlantic slave trade. please we should not misinform people just to feed our tribal pride and ego

It's obvious you are not very well versed in Yoruba history and it will be had work trying to educate you assuming you genuinely want to learn.

For a start there where no such people called Yoruba people in Nigeria before the 1800s, if you can provide evidence there were, maybe I can take you serious.

To start debating Yoruba history, you must first know how Yoruba people came to be.

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 3:41pm On Dec 15, 2020
[quote author=samuk post=97095227]

It's obvious you are not very well versed in Yoruba history and it will be had work trying to educate you assuming you genuinely want to learn.

For a start there where no such people called Yoruba people in Nigeria before the 1800s, if you can provide evidence there were, maybe I can take you serious.

To start debating Yoruba history, you must first know how Yoruba people came to be.[/quote



there was nothing like Benin until the Portuguese call you that your name is bini

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by samuk: 3:50pm On Dec 15, 2020
[quote author=Ideadoctor post=97095328][/quote]

there was nothing like Benin until the Portuguese call you that your name is bini

Can you now see why I said it will be very difficult to educate you? Your knowledge of history is very limited.

The Portuguese didn't name Bini, they met the name bini, Ubini which they anglicised Benin.

But there was nothing in resemblance to Yoruba in Nigeria before 1800s that was either misspelt or anglicised.

Maybe it's best you stick to your Fulani rulers in Kwara rather than trolling Benin related history to display your ignorance.

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by gregyboy(m): 3:54pm On Dec 15, 2020
samuk:


Guy, the purpose of what I posted was not to show or imply that the Oba of Benin version was right, how could you even come to such conclusion when the same reference said archeological findings dates Ife to the 16th century.

If you are familiar with the Benin/Ife relationship, you would realise that Oranmiyan coming to Benin was dated to the 12th century, how could this be if archeological findings only dates Ife to the 16th century?

Please always read and understand. I submitted and highlighted the bit that was relevant to my argument, I could have deleted the rest I didn't agree with but it would have been disingenuous.

I like to present the full picture and then debate it rather than presenting half of what was said.

I hope I have made myself clear enough, besides this is not the first time of reading my submissions on Benin/Ife relationship and I expected you to have known my stand on it by now.


Sorry about that these yoruba makes me angry when they play with myth as history
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by samuk: 3:56pm On Dec 15, 2020
gregyboy:



Sorry about that these yoruba makes me angry when they play with myth as history

No worries. Archeological dating of Ife to the first decade of the 16th century already killed the Benin/Ife relationship story.

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 3:59pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:


rant on,while we rule on, Yoruba no be your mate

Lol we ain't mates, even for Lagos na the non Yorubas when dey occupy the best places grin

Ẹdo na Boss grin
Fulani be your Overlord

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by gregyboy(m): 4:02pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:


rant on,while we rule on, fulani no be your mate


That's true we pass them

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 6:36pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:


Lol we ain't mates, even for Lagos na the non Yorubas when dey occupy the best places grin

Ẹdo na Boss grin
Fulani be your Overlord


Give just 8 reasons why Edo be the boss

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 6:37pm On Dec 15, 2020
samuk:


there was nothing like Benin until the Portuguese call you that your name is bini

Can you now see why I said it will be very difficult to educate you? Your knowledge of history is very limited.

The Portuguese didn't name Bini, they met the name bini, Ubini which they anglicised Benin.

But there was nothing in resemblance to Yoruba in Nigeria before 1800s that was either misspelt or anglicised.

Maybe it's best you stick to your Fulani rulers in Kwara rather than trolling Benin related history to display your ignorance.





he be like say you don drink before you con mention me,what did I say what did you say,I beg shift

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 6:45pm On Dec 15, 2020
gregyboy:



You respect the sultan not ooni
you still get mouth to dey talk, you Edo bastard

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 6:47pm On Dec 15, 2020
samuk:


Guy, the purpose of what I posted was not to show or imply that the Oba of Benin version was right, how could you even come to such conclusion when the same reference said archeological findings dates Ife to the 16th century.

If you are familiar with the Benin/Ife relationship, you would realise that Oranmiyan coming to Benin was dated to the 12th century, how could this be if archeological findings only dates Ife to the 16th century?

Please always read and understand. I submitted and highlighted the bit that was relevant to my argument, I could have deleted the rest I didn't agree with but it would have been disingenuous.

I like to present the full picture and then debate it rather than presenting half of what was said.

I hope I have made myself clear enough, besides this is not the first time of reading my submissions on Benin/Ife relationship and I expected you to have known my stand on it by now.

can you imaging useless Edo youth calling their Oba a liar

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 6:53pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:



Give just 8 reasons why Edo be the boss

A slave has no right to ask me such questions grin

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 7:00pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:


A slave has no right to ask me such questions grin


if you can't answer,Yoruba supremacy remains, awa ni baba yin,iwaju bayi leti ma bawa

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 7:03pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:



if you can't answer,Yoruba supremacy remains, awa ni baba yin,iwaju bayi leti ma bawa

Your over lords doing a nice job grin.
Iye wẹ mwẹnmwen cheesy

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 7:05pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:

Your over lords doing a nice job grin. Iye wẹ mwẹnmwen cheesy




rant on we are still ruling

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Etinosa1234: 7:10pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:


Your over lords doing a nice job grin.
Iye wẹ mwẹnmwen cheesy

This one loud grin

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 7:16pm On Dec 15, 2020
Etinosa1234:


This one loud grin

Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 7:17pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:






rant on we are still ruling

Wail on cheesy
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 7:18pm On Dec 15, 2020
[quote author=valirex post=97101306]
* yawns and stretch* wow you children really made my day,if you want more spanking mention me tomorrow, I want to sleep now,princes don't stress themselves.

Cc.
Etinosa 1234
Gregyboy
samuk
valirex

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 7:21pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:

* yawns and stretch* wow you children really made my day,if you want more spanking mention me tomorrow, I want to sleep now,princes don't stress themselves.

Cc.
Etinosa 1234
Gregyboy
samuk
valirex

You are a coward if you run now undecided

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by AreaFada2: 7:46pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:


you can as well educate me as well
Go to my old posts. They are all there.
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 8:11pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:


You are a coward if you run now undecided
you just like to dey run mouth, especially you and gregyboy

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 8:12pm On Dec 15, 2020
AreaFada2:
Go to my old posts. They are all there.

I have read,doesn't make sense

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 8:27pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:
you just like to dey run mouth, especially you and gregyboy

Lol, coward grin
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 8:43pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:

Lol, coward grin
you mean you

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 9:21pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:


you mean you

No dummy, you grin
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 9:23pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:

No dummy, you grin
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no better argument again, just boring insult... am fed up

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Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by AreaFada2: 9:30pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:


I have read,doesn't make sense

When you have been indoctrinated, it will not make sense to you if you hear that night and day exist. Not everyone has the acumen to make sense of what they hear or read. Pele o. cheesy grin
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by valirex: 9:34pm On Dec 15, 2020
Ideadoctor:

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no better argument again, just boring insult... am fed up

Don't be, you have your whole life to serve your overlords grin
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 9:37pm On Dec 15, 2020
valirex:

Don't be, you have your whole life to serve your overlords grin
. your colo mental is still intact I presume?
Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by Ideadoctor(m): 9:38pm On Dec 15, 2020
AreaFada2:


When you have been indoctrinated, it will not make sense to you if you hear that night and day exist. Not everyone has the acumen to make sense of what they hear or read. Pele o. cheesy grin

.yeah,anything associated with lie doesn't make sense to me

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