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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by sidvinci(m): 10:10pm On Dec 16, 2020
If you register the goods with a logistic or courier service , the company bears the cost in as much as you provide receipt . And while filling form the will ask the nature and price of goods.
Dude screenshot or not. Get payment evidence and save or screenshot their reply here on nairaland . Go to state CID or to those police that wear black and black not mopol and register the case with them . You are not a fool by paying for complete package and sleeping in a filling station as pump attendant . Get them arrested or their family arrested so that the will learn next time. If you can't get their address , with police report you can get their next of kin from bank . That account you paid money into.
They stopped picking your call.......374000 naira is more than 1000 naira savings a day for one year , more than minimum wage a year. If you add am small thing na my house rent

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:11pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lamijay:


Hmm, I disagree with you. As a seller, I know that when a buyer wants an item and it has to be waybilled,I would try to get the buyers own choice on the method to be used, after doing that and handling the phone over to the company/driver, that phone is no longer under my custody

I can and will provide after sales services, but nothing to do with waybill.

Omicpet did what he was told to do, waybill a phone to ibadan.

Seller was not supposed to include the handling fee and transport within lagos to the 4k for waybill


In this case buyer according to his post had no idea how his item was to be sent he was promised a waybill number.

Not trying to discard how you run your biz sir,I am just trying to argue in line with this case.

Question is,was the buyer preinformed what the breakdown of 4k was meant for?the buyer claimed they agreed 3-5k and he paid 4k as an estimated fee.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by revcompaty(m): 10:12pm On Dec 16, 2020
Harryfrosh:
i sent you 4k ... you asked for my home address which i sent to you... you promised to get back to me with the number...
Really sorry for your loss bro.
Like you earlier said you didn't use a whatsapp phone through out your conversation so there's no traceable backup.
Since you sent an sms indicating your address, get another phone to snap or (screenshot if it was on a bigger phone) that sms showing the address detail, the reciever and time message was sent down here.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:12pm On Dec 16, 2020
Harryfrosh:
when i received the driver call 7.30pm yesterady... i called him that im confused of which package because dis is not the agreement... i am still thinking on when to call him for the waybill number then the driver call entered and i called him immediately and he told me on phone that he himself is still waiting for the number but i should go and if i receive the phone... i should call him

Please allow him reply me sir,we are all trying to be fair and just to all parties involved here,I understand how losing 370k can feel like,just be patient sir.
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by gameboy727(m): 10:15pm On Dec 16, 2020
This is interesting. My condolence goes out to whoever bears the grunt of the losses incurred in this deal.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Somto5: 10:18pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lamijay:


Hmm, I disagree with you. As a seller, I know that when a buyer wants an item and it has to be waybilled, I would try to get the buyers own choice on the method to be used, after doing that and handling the phone over to the company/driver, that phone is no longer under my custody.

I can and will provide after sales services, but nothing to do with waybill.

Omicpet did what he was told to do, waybill a phone to ibadan.

Seller was not supposed to include the handling fee and transport within lagos to the 4k for waybill.

Thank God ignorant sellers like you are being exposed.
In online sales, it's either buyer receives what he paid for or his money. Why he doesn't receive the goods isn't even his business. The consequencial thing is that he didn't receive it.
The moment you agree to sell to someone in a manner that requires waybill/delivery, it's ur duty to ensure it gets to the buyer whereas it's the buyer's responsibility to pay for the shipping or delivery.
To minimize risks, sellers can recommend specific logistics coy that he feels safest with. Any buyer that declines the recommended coy would now be on his own.
Seller actually recommended Omicpet.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by sirlop(m): 10:19pm On Dec 16, 2020
Somto5:

There is nothing to talk about in line 1-4.
It's obvious, even to a slowpoke, that the seller has explanations to make viz a viz delivery agreement with the seller and amount he received for delivery.

That said, your explanation clearly indicates that you do not know the description and scope of the service you claim you render.

Get this very clear, your responsibility does not end when you hand over package to driver and establish communication between driver and recepient.
You (or ur staff, on your behalf) assigned the role of taking the package to Ibadan to the driver. you paid him and this exactly is why you're to be held responsible.
Like you rightly pointed out, "directive was to Ibadan", that was what you were paid for and that didn't happen.
The job given to you was to get the package to Ibadan where the recepient will receive it but because you do not have the resources to convey it to destination, you paid a driver to do that (on your behalf) and any ish emanating from the driver would definitely end on your desk.
It wasn't the recepient who had a deal with the driver, neither was it even the seller. It was you.
The seller's case is different.
You don’t just lay unnecessary blames without hearing from both sides. Anytime I insist on using Driver, Omicpet always warns me it’s at my own risk. Sometimes, I take the risk. After reading through, all I have to tell the buyer is to hold the driver responsible. Communication was established between driver and buyer. How come only his item was stolen? I suspect the driver. He has questions to answer
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by henrixx(m): 10:21pm On Dec 16, 2020
bobo65:


This one tough
Sorry for your loss bro
lol. undecided

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

You don’t just lay unnecessary blames without hearing from both sides. Anytime I insist on using Driver, Omicpet always warns me it’s at my own risk. Sometimes, I take the risk. After reading through, all I have to tell the buyer is to hold the driver responsible. Communication was established between driver and buyer How come only his item was stolen? I suspect the driver. He has questions to answer

And did omicpet warn the buyer on the risk of using a driver befor sending??
This would have been valid if the driver made contact with the buyer befor he left the park,that is how any sensible park to buyer package works,sender insists driver calls buyer and they agreed on a planned location for meetup,
But buyer claimed he was expecting a waybill number and he got a call at 7:30pm from a driver,in which he got confused,seller also claimed he received the call at around 7:30pm from buyer.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by revcompaty(m): 10:32pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

You don’t just lay unnecessary blames without hearing from both sides. Anytime I insist on using Driver, Omicpet always warns me it’s at my own risk. Sometimes, I take the risk. After reading through[b], all I have to tell the buyer is to hold the driver responsible[/b]. Communication was established between driver and buyer. How come only his item was stolen? I suspect the driver. He has questions to answer

Hold the driver responsible for what Sir?

Was the buyer notified of his good coming through the bus /car park medium?

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Onyeka90210(m): 10:37pm On Dec 16, 2020
Harryfrosh:
yes i have that... let me go and find someone phone to do the screenshort..
That'll be the deal breaker, you actually sending the seller your home address to receive the package.
You paid for it to be delivered at the comfort of your home, only for you to spend the night at a gas station waiting for your phone. It's the sellers responsibility to make sure the item gets to your front door cause you texted him the address and he used his means of dispatch

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Majikman(m): 10:40pm On Dec 16, 2020
Harryfrosh:
and funny enough none is ready to come to a middle ground on what to do or way to go...
Dats very very bad
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by justianoo(m): 10:40pm On Dec 16, 2020
At the very least you send the package via a service that can be held responsible if anything happens.Buyer needs to get some greedy lot arrested.
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by sirlop(m): 10:42pm On Dec 16, 2020
revcompaty:


Hold the driver responsible for what Sir?

Was the buyer notified of his good coming through the bus /car park medium?


The driver contacted him. How come only his item got missing. There’s something the driver is yet to tell him.Omicpet dispatched the items as instructed by seller. Seller stated that buyer never insisted on home delivery. From the breakdown, the delivery guy received 3k and out of that, 1500 was for waybill as he stated. He did his job and sent out the item based on the amount he received. I still insist he should hold the driver responsible for not protecting an item in his custody.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by sirlop(m): 10:44pm On Dec 16, 2020
justianoo:
At the very least you send the package via a service that can be held responsible if anything happens.Buyer needs to get some greedy lot arrested.
Even taking this measure may not be the solution. Most of us devalue our items so that we pay lower delivery fees.
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:47pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

The driver contacted him. How come only his item got missing. There’s something the driver is yet to tell him.Omicpet dispatched the items as instructed by seller. Seller stated that buyer never insisted on home delivery. From the breakdown, the delivery guy received 3k and out of that, 1500 was for waybill as he stated. He did his job and sent out the item based on the amount he received. I still insist he should hold the driver responsible for not protecting an item in his custody.

For someone who claimed we should not take sides unjustly,you seem to be doing just that,
You missed the part where the buyer claimed he paid for home delivery too?how come you believe the seller and all of a sudden discarded the buyer claims,without any evidence
And again I am asking you was the buyer told of any break down charges,even when the seller called the buyer to tell him it was 3k,did he inform the buyer he sent it by bus?did the seller know all this information and hid it from.the buyer who tot his item was coming via home delivery and was promised a waybill number?
Seller never indicated he broke down the charges the way omicpet broke it down,
So try to calm down and let everyone tell there side of the story justly.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:51pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

Even taking this measure may not be the solution. Most of us devalue our items so that we pay lower delivery fees.

At least with registered mail,likes of gig,DHL we all hav at least 99% assurance item would land in peace,the 1% except village people is involved,not like those registered mail don't suffer loses too,but it's not rampant,and as well it doesn't not translate park waybill is bad,intact 99% of all I sent to ib,ekiti,Ife and the likes na via park waybill.
But in cases like this,we should just hope we don't get affected,the loss can be devastating
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by justianoo(m): 10:51pm On Dec 16, 2020
noobody:


For someone who claimed we should not take sides unjustly,you seem to be doing just that,
You missed the part where the buyer claimed he paid for home delivery too?how come you believe the seller and all of a sudden discarded the buyer claims,without any evidence
And again I am asking you was the buyer told of any break down charges,even when the seller called the buyer to tell him it was 3k,did he inform the buyer he sent it by bus?did the seller know all this information and hid it from.the buyer who tot his item was coming via home delivery and was promised a waybill number?
Seller never indicated he broke down the charges the way omicpet broke it down,
So try to calm down and let everyone tell there side of the story justly.
Na there way be that.More are still coming to support them.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:54pm On Dec 16, 2020
justianoo:
Na there way be that.More are still coming to support them.

I am not saying anyone should not support anyone,at least support and be reasonable,this can happen to anyone.370k can't just be lost like that without even any form of compassion,that is totally wrong!
We are all free to support who ever we wish to,as long as you can argue it down and be reasonable enough to show how both parties are at fault or not,simple as that.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Harryfrosh: 10:55pm On Dec 16, 2020
Onyeka90210:

If this is true can you take a picture of the SMS of your home address to his number, you can block out the address, we just need proof, due to the absence of WhatsApp screenshots

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 10:57pm On Dec 16, 2020
[quote author=Harryfrosh post=97141627][/quote]

Bdemix,your response please!!

Did you receive this text or not?

Why was this address sent to you?

You don't need to reply me or quote my post,we all just need to know why!simple.
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Harryfrosh: 10:59pm On Dec 16, 2020
[quote author=Harryfrosh post=97141627][/quote] the last picture said 12/12/2020 which is last week saturday when he called me the phone is now in nigeria ... after sending him dis message as requested... i called him to confirm it... which he did... and he promised to send me the waybill delivery number

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Harryfrosh: 11:09pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

The driver contacted him. How come only his item got missing. There’s something the driver is yet to tell him.Omicpet dispatched the items as instructed by seller. Seller stated that buyer never insisted on home delivery. From the breakdown, the delivery guy received 3k and out of that, 1500 was for waybill as he stated. He did his job and sent out the item based on the amount he received. I still insist he should hold the driver responsible for not protecting an item in his custody.
i just upload the pictures... he should come out to tell the members here thats not his name... he called me few hours ago ... now changing words ... like no waybill and all that.. people should please fear God... i told him on the first day on phone that im new ibadan and i want it to be to my place.. you dont expect me to sent 4k for park delivery ... dis will not be my first item to receive online... i received all the phone accessories last week via home delivery and mass peace and i paid 2k for those deliveries and 3k... and all are here with me...

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by justianoo(m): 11:11pm On Dec 16, 2020
Harryfrosh:
i just upload the pictures... he should come out to tell the members here thats not his name... he called me few hours ago ... now changing words ... like no waybill and all that.. people should please fear God... i told him on the first day on phone that im new ibadan and i want it to be to my place.. you dont expect me to sent 4k for park delivery ... dis will not be my first item to receive online... i received all the phone accessories last week via home delivery and mass peace and i paid 2k for those deliveries and 3k... and all are here with me...
bro just chill.you have no fault.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Onyeka90210(m): 11:12pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

The driver contacted him. How come only his item got missing. There’s something the driver is yet to tell him.Omicpet dispatched the items as instructed by seller. Seller stated that buyer never insisted on home delivery. From the breakdown, the delivery guy received 3k and out of that, 1500 was for waybill as he stated. He did his job and sent out the item based on the amount he received. I still insist he should hold the driver responsible for not protecting an item in his custody.
You're getting it wrong, let me put it this way, let's say he used logistics, and they misplaced the package, who do you think the logistics will call to issue a refund?
And between the buyer and the seller, who would you think will take the matter up with the logistics?
The seller obviously, because the buyer is not the one that paid for their service,
The buyer has no business with the driver, he didn't give the driver the item, neither did he pay the driver, the only person that can hold the driver responsible is the one that gave him the item

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Harryfrosh: 11:16pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

The driver contacted him. How come only his item got missing. There’s something the driver is yet to tell him.Omicpet dispatched the items as instructed by seller. Seller stated that buyer never insisted on home delivery. From the breakdown, the delivery guy received 3k and out of that, 1500 was for waybill as he stated. He did his job and sent out the item based on the amount he received. I still insist he should hold the driver responsible for not protecting an item in his custody.
holding the drivers responsible... i remembered when i called @bdemix himself dis morning around 4.30am ... he himself is the one telling me to go that the person who sent the package from @omicpet office will be the one to held responsible for it ... he told me he was expecting waybill number ... he is now trying to change all the narative... but i dont sent 4k for such park delivery

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Majikman(m): 11:16pm On Dec 16, 2020
[quote author=Harryfrosh post=97141627][/quote]

Good ... You have proof, the odds are in ur favour !

bdemix u definitely received this text .
If the buyer didn't state home delivery, he wouldn't have texted u his home address!

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by gidieberry(m): 11:18pm On Dec 16, 2020
sirlop:

You don’t just lay unnecessary blames without hearing from both sides. Anytime I insist on using Driver, Omicpet always warns me it’s at my own risk. Sometimes, I take the risk. After reading through, all I have to tell the buyer is to hold the driver responsible. Communication was established between driver and buyer. How come only his item was stolen? I suspect the driver. He has questions to answer
bro, don't bring ya relationship with omicpet to this matter. I remembered I had 2 dealings with you, when you told me to despatch from Lagos to Oweri, I told ya point blank that I can't provide such due to reasons like this, that if I am to do such it's GIG only but you declined that the first time, second occasion I asked you to use the medium as the first time.
Back to this matter, buyer obviously wanted waybill with a registered logistic provider hence the monie paid, how is he to know bdemix using omicpet as handler, item will be delivered via Interstate bus.
Let's be logical, don't always bring personal relationship into this sorta matter.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by revcompaty(m): 11:18pm On Dec 16, 2020
noobody:


For someone who claimed we should not take sides unjustly,you seem to be doing just that,
You missed the part where the buyer claimed he paid for home delivery too?how come you believe the seller and all of a sudden discarded the buyer claims,without any evidence
And again I am asking you was the buyer told of any break down charges,even when the seller called the buyer to tell him it was 3k,did he inform the buyer he sent it by bus?did the seller know all this information and hid it from.the buyer who tot his item was coming via home delivery and was promised a waybill number?
Seller never indicated he broke down the charges the way omicpet broke it down,
So try to calm down and let everyone tell there side of the story justly.
Thanks so much for this, so apt.

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by revcompaty(m): 11:19pm On Dec 16, 2020
[quote author=Harryfrosh post=97141627][/quote]
Now this is more like it.
Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by Harryfrosh: 11:20pm On Dec 16, 2020
noobody:


And did omicpet warn the buyer on the risk of using a driver befor sending??
This would have been valid if the driver made contact with the buyer befor he left the park,that is how any sensible park to buyer package works,sender insists driver calls buyer and they agreed on a planned location for meetup,
But buyer claimed he was expecting a waybill number and he got a call at 7:30pm from a driver,in which he got confused,seller also claimed he received the call at around 7:30pm from buyer.
yes 7.30 and i called @bdemix immediatly because i am confused because i dont expect such call... and secondly 7.30pm from lagos to ibadan... if i want park delivery... i could have sent 2k .. the phone is 370k and i sent 374k... with my address details

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Re: Note 20 Ultra Lost by noobody(m): 11:20pm On Dec 16, 2020
Onyeka90210:

You're getting it wrong, let me put it this way, let's say he used logistics, and they misplaced the package, who do you think they will call to issue a refund?
And between the buyer and the seller, who would you think will take the matter up with the logistics?
The buyer has no business with the driver, he didn't give the driver the item, neither did he pay the driver, the only person that can hold the driver responsible is the one that gave him the item

More like the person(seller) who directed the person(omicpet)to give the driver the item,
Some angu are clear to us now,some aren't yet,I believe omicpet acted as instructed from seller,he was instructed to send phone to Ibadan,in which he had no prior knowledge whatever the seller and buyer discussed about waybill or anything(I stand to be corrected if I am wrong),he used bus driver,but his reply as to owner holding driver responsible might not be too kind and pleasing to someone who just lost 370k thou.
Now the issue is the seller,why was he sent a home delivery address if there was no discussion of home delivery?
He can only make all these clear to us if he comes and explains why he received that address.
Did seller know he was supposed to do home delivery and failed to inform omicpet?

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