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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by UMUAZEE: 4:34pm On Dec 26, 2021
TAO11:

An eyewitness’ account furnished with quotes and full references have its way of inflicting pains on folks with wonderfully low self esteem like you.

I feel your pains.

The only pains in your eye witness account is describing the palace of your so called most powerful king in ruins, run down and dilapidated more than 20 years after the Yoruba wars.. Now is that truly a great and powerful king living like a pauper?
Your eye witness only used a sweet way to humiliate your king. Who calls a mud hut a castle? or says it has high steps? we all know that is definitely not true..
Your witness comes from a place where there are real Castles, magnificent pillars and thick walls.. so he surely knows the difference.
He even said his horse climbed up the high steps.. To where? The Oni's living room? such disrespect of a "great king"

Go and sit down.. You are looking for ways to upgrade your low status, however you will remain down there.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 4:58pm On Dec 26, 2021
PS: Did I remember to teach you that Cyril Punch was here in the 1880s, 1890s, and early-1900s (when pack animals are now more accessible for trips) as opposed to the 1400s and earlier (which is the focus period of the Benin to Ife trip in question)?

UMUAZEE:
[s]You must really be stupid (though u have proven to be) to believe it will take almost 2 years to walk from Benin to Ife. The white man must have really filled your brains with dust and smoke before they released you people from slavery and returned to Africa. No wonder you believe Oduduwa fell from the sky in chains.

Can you ask your white overlords how long it took them to walk from one city to another when they were exploring Africa? Some of them
(like Mr. Cyril Punch) definitely visited Benin, Ife, Oyo and many other places during their exploration. so ask them how long it took them to walk from Benin to Ife, or from Ife to Oyo, or from Oyo to Benin.. Mumu like you.

An Edo man will walk from Benin to Ife in less than 2 weeks.[/s]
Again, I feel your misery. It is well expressed. cheesy

BTW, I noticed that even you yourself do not believe that your own reply here can match up with my actual comment which you attempted to reply here.

I know this because you are dead-scared to quote my comment in full — hence the reason why you cut out a huge and a crucial chunk of my comment.

The crucial chunk which you’ve cut out is as follows:

Datum 1: C. G. Okojie’s “Ishan Native Laws and Customs,” p. 210. provides the first data as follows:

The walking trip from Uromi (in Ishan) to Benin City on a course of some 50 miles “traditionally” took an average of 5 months.

~ Cited in A.F.C. Ryder (1965), p.27.


This piece of crucial information therefore confirms to anybody with a minimum of 1 brain-cell that the long distance trekking convention in this part of the world in ancient times is radically different from what a 21st century Nairaland troll wants it to be.

In other words, they must have evolved a convention of camping for ‘x’ period of time for every ‘y’ miles of trekking they make — especially when it’s a group of people of diverse ages as opposed to one person only; and especially when the olden texts also clearly admit that the messengers made slow paces.

The bottom line here, for the genuine seekers of facts, is that since Uromi to Benin city took an average of 5 months traditionally, it is absurd for any sane person to even contemplate that Benin to Ife would therefore have taken 2 weeks traditionally.

The following link shows my actual original comment in full. The comment which he was desperate that no one should see in full:

https://www.nairaland.com/6482972/name-lagos-called-ekonunuame-benins/26#104847778
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Oh, lest I forget, please do send my regards to your sky-king Ogiso who came from heaven and crash-landed at Benin city round-about.

Regards.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:09pm On Dec 26, 2021
UMUAZEE:
[s]The only pains in your eye witness account is describing the palace of your so called most powerful king in ruins, run down and dilapidated more than 20 years after the Yoruba wars.. Now is that truly a great and powerful king living like a pauper?
Your eye witness only used a sweet way to humiliate your king. Who calls a mud hut a castle? or says it has high steps? we all know that is definitely not true..
Your witness comes from a place where there are real Castles, magnificent pillars and thick walls.. so he surely knows the difference.
He even said his horse climbed up the high steps.. To where? The Oni's living room? such disrespect of a "great king"

Go and sit down.. You are looking for ways to upgrade your low status, however you will remain down there.[/s]
Your pain, misery, and inferiority is well expressed. grin

Whoever put you in this miserable, self-destructing & irredeemable condition will never know peace. Isee.

cheesy

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by googi: 4:31pm On Dec 27, 2021
These fabricators nor dey Taya?

Camp of water ko, camp of ocean ni.

The days you guys used to go on social media and spew trash are over. Your idle monikers got away with it for too long.

TAOII kudos.




Eko= camp
Ame= waters

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(m): 5:22pm On Dec 28, 2021
googi:
These fabricators nor dey Taya?

Camp of water ko, camp of ocean ni.

The days you guys used to go on social media and spew trash are over. Your idle monikers got away with it for too long.

TAOII kudos.


Hold your mouth





Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by UMUAZEE: 5:02pm On Jan 01, 2022
TAO11:
PS: Did I remember to teach you that Cyril Punch was here in the 1880s, 1890s, and early-1900s (when pack animals are now more accessible for trips) as opposed to the 1400s and earlier (which is the focus period of the Benin to Ife trip in question)?

Again, I feel your misery. It is well expressed. cheesy

BTW, I noticed that even you yourself do not believe that your own reply here can match up with my actual comment which you attempted to reply here.

I know this because you are dead-scared to quote my comment in full — hence the reason why you cut out a huge and a crucial chunk of my comment.

The crucial chunk which you’ve cut out is as follows:

Datum 1: C. G. Okojie’s “Ishan Native Laws and Customs,” p. 210. provides the first data as follows:

The walking trip from Uromi (in Ishan) to Benin City on a course of some 50 miles “traditionally” took an average of 5 months.

~ Cited in A.F.C. Ryder (1965), p.27.


This piece of crucial information therefore confirms to anybody with a minimum of 1 brain-cell that the long distance trekking convention in this part of the world in ancient times is radically different from what a 21st century Nairaland troll wants it to be.

In other words, they must have evolved a convention of camping for ‘x’ period of time for every ‘y’ miles of trekking they make — especially when it’s a group of people of diverse ages as opposed to one person only; and especially when the olden texts also clearly admit that the messengers made slow paces.

The bottom line here, for the genuine seekers of facts, is that since Uromi to Benin city took an average of 5 months traditionally, it is absurd for any sane person to even contemplate that Benin to Ife would therefore have taken 2 weeks traditionally.

The following link shows my actual original comment in full. The comment which he was desperate that no one should see in full:

https://www.nairaland.com/6482972/name-lagos-called-ekonunuame-benins/26#104847778
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Oh, lest I forget, please do send my regards to your sky-king Ogiso who came from heaven and crash-landed at Benin city round-about.

Regards.

I know you are frustrated that I am punching holes in your useless write ups lol..
abeg just ask your white colonial masters if it took them that long to travel from one city to another during their exploration of Africa..
You can even research their journals.. You will definitely find their travel times in the journals.

Mugu like you.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by christistruth01: 5:46pm On Jan 01, 2022
Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Olu317(m): 7:06pm On Jan 01, 2022
christistruth01:


Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


CC Udele1, Blessedom,Tao11, render1,Olu317,,Samuk,gregboy,Areafada,Macof,
Great and humble heart with wisdom of God. Kindly continue to shine forth in a Gregorian Calendar's New Year. Much love from Olú. Wishing you all the best in your endeavor.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 8:01pm On Jan 01, 2022
Welldone o, Mr. perforator-the HoLe puncher cheesy.

Your real moniker should be MUMUazee — cos you mumu well-well no be small. grin

UMUAZEE:
[s]I know you are frustrated that I am punching holes in your useless write ups lol..
abeg just ask your white colonial masters if it took them that long to travel from one city to another during their exploration of Africa..
You can even research their journals.. You will definitely find their travel times in the journals.

Mugu like you.[/s]
You have done a great job expressing your misery, low self-esteem, and frustration. Kudos boy. smiley

We curse your tormentor now, today & forever. Ise. Sorry ehn. cheesy [I’m dying holding back my laughter] grin

Having said that, since you had switched on your Edo blind-mode; I will have to re-debunk you again by doing a copy/paste of what you were too scared to read earlier. See the comments below. Ring a bell?

Did I remember to teach you that Cyril Punch was here in the 1880s, 1890s, and early-1900s (when pack animals are now readily accessible for trips, especially trade) as against the 1400s and earlier which is the focus period of the Benin to Ife ritual trip?

Also,

Datum 1: C. G. Okojie’s “Ishan Native Laws and Customs,” p. 210. provides the first data as follows:

The walking trip from Uromi (in Ishan) to Benin City on a course of some 50 miles “traditionally” took an average of 5 months.

~ Cited in A.F.C. Ryder (1965), p.27.


Cheers boy.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by samuk: 8:02pm On Jan 01, 2022
christistruth01:


Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


CC Udele1, Blessedom,Tao11, render1,Olu317,,Samuk,gregboy,Areafada,Macof,

The rice is very colourful. Hopefully it will be as delicious as it looks. Happy New year.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by macof(m): 8:27pm On Jan 01, 2022
christistruth01:


Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


CC Udele1, Blessedom,Tao11, render1,Olu317,,Samuk,gregboy,Areafada,Macof,
lol.
Happy New year to you too

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 8:40pm On Jan 01, 2022
christistruth01:


Happy New year !!

This is your fried rice


CC Udele1, Blessedom,Tao11, render1,Olu317,,Samuk,gregboy,Areafada,Macof,
Happy New Year

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Christistruth00: 8:18pm On Jan 11, 2022
TAO11:

When the debate is lost, self-refuting slanders quickly become the tool of the loser. cheesy

Your goal here is to trick your gullible Bini brothers & sisters into thinking that the above picture was taken at old-Oyo, i.e. the Oyo which was the empire.

However, your attempt here is another epic fail for the following reasons and facts:

(1) The embedded metmuseum link to the picture says the photo was taken in the early-1900s. It reads:

Date: Early 20th century.





(2) The location of old-Oyo (i.e. farther north and not far from the Niger River) had become uninhabited and abandoned since the early/mid-1800s.

(3) Your photo is thus not of the imperial palace of the Oyo Empire (i.e. old-Oyo) as the empire ended and its location was abandoned since the 1800s.

(4) Your photo thus was taken at an entirely different location some hundred years after the empire ended and was abandoned for a new camp-location south.

(5) For a taste of what the “imperial palace” of old-Oyo (i.e. the Oyo empire) looked like, please refer to my 1st attachment below.

Its annotation reads: King’s Palace (Afin) Oyo.
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PS: See also my 2nd attachment (from a 1903 paper) to have an educated grasp of the office of the Ooni in comparison to the office of the Alaafin.

Regards.




Tao11 I saw something very interesting in Oba Akiolu’s Interview at 9mins,
Did you know he is a descendant of Aromire the. son of Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfuminire and the owner of Lagos Island on both his mother and fathers side ?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI42zAgzXNA
Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:07pm On Jan 12, 2022
Christistruth00:

Tao11 I saw something very interesting in Oba Akiolu’s Interview at 9mins,
Did you know he is a descendant of Aromire the. son of Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfuminire and the owner of Lagos Island on both his mother and fathers side ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI42zAgzXNA

.

I didn’t know about his mom and dad before now, but it’s not so surprising that they’re descended from the founders of Eko, viz. the Aromirẹ family.

What I knew before now is that Aṣipa (i.e. the father of Ado who was born of a Benin mother) was one of the Awori chiefs at Iṣẹri of Ifẹ descent; according to what historians call the Lagos account.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 12:06am On Dec 11, 2022
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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(m): 11:13am On Feb 06, 2023
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Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(m): 4:59pm On Dec 03, 2023
Edo own lagos

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