Yes light from the stars which were also created on same day as the sun

Dtruthspeaker:


The sun is not the Source of all light for why do you see at night, when Nepa has taken the light and the torch, (the sun) is on the other side of the world?

Think and remember light rays move in straight lines!

And if you been in cave or in a house in a bush,you would know that there is Another light apart from the sun.

RuMiRgO1stSon:
Yes light from the stars which were also created on same day as the sun

In truth, there is still light even when it rains at night and the stars are covered.

That is the Wonder about the Light God created!

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO

What you have just said sounds like what I would expect from my 6-year old nephew.

So, why can't light exist independent of the sun?

You can't have light without a light source, something has to be generating light. What was the source of the light if there was no sun?

LordReed:
You can't have light without a light source, something has to be generating light. What was the source of the light if there was no sun?

Again, the writer tells you in Genesis 1 vs 14, that the idea expressed there in bold letters was implemented on the 4th day. So, what of that do you not get?

Kobojunkie:
Again, the writer tells you in Genesis 1 vs 14, that the idea expressed there in bold letters was implemented on the 4th day. So, what of that do you not get?

The writer believed light could made without a source?

LordReed:

The writer believed light could made without a source?

Your mind exists today in a world where a visible light source is required for all forms of lights your senses are able to percieve but he, the writer, tells you it was not always the case.

LordReed:


You can't have light without a light source, something has to be generating light. What was the source of the light if there was no sun?

True! That is why God's work are wonderful and their Intricate Connections when we obtain knowledge of them, is Marvelous and Amazing!

And hence the beauty of the words Uncover and Discover!

Kobojunkie:
Your mind exists today in a world where a visible light source is required for all forms of lights your senses are able to percieve but he, the writer, tells you it was not always the case.

Sounds far fetched but in theme with god dunnit. LoL

Dtruthspeaker:


The sun is not the Source of all light for why do you see at night, when Nepa has taken the light and the torch, (the sun) is on the other side of the world?

Think and remember light rays move in straight lines!

And if you been in cave or in a house in a bush,you would know that there is Another light apart from the sun.

lol
Really?
You are this ignorant?

Workch:
lol
Really?
You are this ignorant?

You do not know much and in fact you did not know that "ignorance" means to ignore information which is different from lack of knowledge or knowing.

And again you either do not know or you failed to remember the photosynthesis test for sun light and yet plant organisms grow in caves and pits where no sun is.

Carry out your own tests to know that which is True!

Stop being the lazy I don't know anything Nigerian youth who only accepts information he likes yet wondering why he is unemployable.

Trying knowing for a change!

Dtruthspeaker:


You do not know much and in fact you did not know that "ignorance" means to ignore information which is different from lack of knowledge or knowing.

And again you either do not know or you failed to remember the photosynthesis test for sun light and yet plant organisms grow in caves and pits where no sun is.

Carry out your own tests to know that which is True!

Stop being the lazy I don't know anything Nigerian youth who only accepts information he likes yet wondering why he is unemployable.

Trying knowing for a change!

so you don’t know that moon light is a reflection of sunlight at another wavelength that plants cannot absorb for photosynthesis?

This is so funny that you think you know a lot whereas you are so ignorant. Lol

Dtruthspeaker:


In truth, there is still light even when it rains at night and the stars are covered.

That is the Wonder about the Light God created!

damn

Workch:
so you don’t know that moon light is a reflection of sunlight at another wavelength that plants cannot absorb for photosynthesis?

This is so funny that you think you know a lot whereas you are so ignorant. Lol

You obviously have no knowledge of biology and geography if not your void of knowledge self would have known about moonless cycles and that there is no photosynthesis in the dark deep. So you are not fit to argue with me, after all as you said, I can not compell you to accept anything, so keep your anythings!

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously have no knowledge of biology and geography if not your void of knowledge self would have known about moonless cycles and that there is no photosynthesis in the dark deep. So you are not fit to argue with me, after all as you said, I can not compell you to accept anything, so keep your anythings!

Can you just stop talking?

LordReed:

Sounds far fetched but in theme with god dunnit. LoL

Duh!

RuMiRgO1stSon:
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?

Read on below for the response to this

foreverme1225:
3 And God said:
“Let there be light.” Then there was light.
4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.
How old are you?

Kobojunkie:
Forgive my confusion here , but are you somehow suggesting that the writer got the order wrong because he didnt write that God first made the sun before the light?

Dtruthspeaker:
Another new set of "Never knows" have come

Workch:
I think you are the person who doesn’t get op’s point.

What light was the Bible talking about here?

Genesis 1:1-5, 14-19
'1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
The First Day
3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4And God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
5God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.”
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
The Fourth Day
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night,
and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years.
15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
16God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night.
And He made the stars as well.
17God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth,
18to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.'

By default, day and night were already, established before the turning up and or advent of lesser lights, like the sun , moon and stars.

The thing is that, day, when described in term of the solar system, is any period of 24 hours while night is any countable period between sunset and sunrise. Without the sun and moon, you have no means of counting the period of hours in a day or know what length of night one is in.

The sun and moon, makes its possible to know the divisions in days and night. No starkest blunder of the writer of the creation account, that's just you imagining wrong.

Notice in Genesis 1: 14, how God said:
'Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night'

@Workch, it depends on what (L)light(s) you want talked of here, especially, if its come to your notice, that there's singular light in Genesis 1:3 plural lights in Genesis 1:14 and the Light Himself.

Notice Workch, darkness, in this discourse, is the constant and light's, the modifier, now watch Genesis 1:2-3, to see that darkness preceded light, as light was called into being by God. Then at Genesis 1:4, when God saw the light was good, He began dividing the light from the darkness and at which, He called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night, and this all led to having an evening and then morning, which He called, first day.

The creation and separation of light from darkness happened six times, hence the six days of creation and resting on the seventh day. There was the first evening, and there was first morning, hence, the first day (i.e. the first cycle of making things visible, make things appear, make things exist etc)

The main focus of God is creation, bringing things into existence, hence the light, to start with, what He called “day,” and separating the darkness He called “night.” The expanse of darkness preceding the creation of the light, was tackled six times, and then for God, leading and setting an example, to rest on a seventh time round

Weeping may last for the night, But a shout of joy comes in the morning (i.e. Psalm 30:5b) Now, the question, I would expect anyone to ask, is what's the reason(s) why the word, evening, is used, in reference to the first day, rather than the word, night, in the six times, the 'the evening and the morning' phrase was used?

BassReeves:
Read on below for the response to this







Genesis 1:1-5, 14-19
'1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
The First Day
3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4And God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
5God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.”
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
The Fourth Day
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night,
and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years.
15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
16God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night.
And He made the stars as well.
17God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth,
18to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.'

By default, day and night were already, established before the turning up and or advent of lesser lights, like the sun , moon and stars.

The thing is that, day, when described in term of the solar system, is any period of 24 hours while night is any countable period between sunset and sunrise. Without the sun and moon, you have no means of counting the period of hours in a day or know what length of night one is in.

The sun and moon, makes its possible to know the divisions in days and night. No starkest blunder of the writer of the creation account, that's just you imagining wrong.

Notice in Genesis 1: 14, how God said:
'Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night'

@Workch, it depends on what (L)light(s) you want talked of here, especially, if its come to your notice, that there's singular light in Genesis 1:3 plural lights in Genesis 1:14 and the Light Himself.

Notice Workch, darkness, in this discourse, is the constant and light's, the modifier, now watch Genesis 1:2-3, to see that darkness preceded light, as light was called into being by God. Then at Genesis 1:4, when God saw the light was good, He began dividing the light from the darkness and at which, He called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night, and this all led to having an evening and then morning, which He called, first day.

The creation and separation of light from darkness happened six times, hence the six days of creation and resting on the seventh day. There was the first evening, and there was first morning, hence, the first day (i.e. the first cycle of making things visible, make things appear, make things exist etc)

The main focus of God is creation, bringing things into existence, hence the light, to start with, what He called “day,” and separating the darkness He called “night.” The expanse of darkness preceding the creation of the light, was tackled six times, and then for God, leading and setting an example, to rest on a seventh time round

Weeping may last for the night, But a shout of joy comes in the morning (i.e. Psalm 30:5b) Now, the question, I would expect anyone to ask, is what's the reason(s) why the word, evening, is used, in reference to the first day, rather than the word, night, in the six times, the 'the evening and the morning' phrase was used?

I still do not see how this makes sense, what light was it talking about on the first day?
Is it the sun? If no
How can you determine 4days without the sun?
Can you just read little astronomy before you answer? The Bible cannot be reliable for things like this.

LordReed:


You can't have light without a light source, something has to be generating light. What was the source of the light if there was no sun?

Maybe the person that can create the stars from nothing can also create light without a light source.
Makes perfect sense when talking about an all-powerful being.
If He created stars to produce light, I assume He wasn't constrained to some higher law above himself. He likely arbitrarily assigned stars as a light source. It doesn't mean that from his point of view that stars would be the only way.
Yes, from observation we can say that stars are the sources of light. But if we assume his existence like in genesis, then like I said earlier, He arbitrarily chose to be so.

As an atheist myself, I think it is a meaningless argument the op is making.

NairalandSARS:

Maybe the person that can create the stars from nothing can also create light without a light source.
Makes perfect sense when talking about an all-powerful being.
If He created stars to produce light, I assume He wasn't constrained to some higher law above himself. He likely arbitrarily assigned stars as a light source. It doesn't mean that from his point of view that stars would be the only way.
Yes, from observation we can say that stars are the sources of light. But if we assume his existence like in genesis, then like I said earlier, He arbitrarily chose to be so.

As an atheist myself, I think it is a meaningless argument the op is making.

Yeah if you assume this all powerful being there is no limit to what you imagine it able to do. Which is why I dropped it, can't argue with that. LMAO!

BassReeves:
Read on below for the response to this







Genesis 1:1-5, 14-19
'1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
The First Day
3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4And God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
5God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.”
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
The Fourth Day
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night,
and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years.
15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
16God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night.
And He made the stars as well.
17God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth,
18to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.'

By default, day and night were already, established before the turning up and or advent of lesser lights, like the sun , moon and stars.

The thing is that, day, when described in term of the solar system, is any period of 24 hours while night is any countable period between sunset and sunrise. Without the sun and moon, you have no means of counting the period of hours in a day or know what length of night one is in.

The sun and moon, makes its possible to know the divisions in days and night. No starkest blunder of the writer of the creation account, that's just you imagining wrong.

Notice in Genesis 1: 14, how God said:
'Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night'

@Workch, it depends on what (L)light(s) you want talked of here, especially, if its come to your notice, that there's singular light in Genesis 1:3 plural lights in Genesis 1:14 and the Light Himself.

Notice Workch, darkness, in this discourse, is the constant and light's, the modifier, now watch Genesis 1:2-3, to see that darkness preceded light, as light was called into being by God. Then at Genesis 1:4, when God saw the light was good, He began dividing the light from the darkness and at which, He called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night, and this all led to having an evening and then morning, which He called, first day.

The creation and separation of light from darkness happened six times, hence the six days of creation and resting on the seventh day. There was the first evening, and there was first morning, hence, the first day (i.e. the first cycle of making things visible, make things appear, make things exist etc)

The main focus of God is creation, bringing things into existence, hence the light, to start with, what He called “day,” and separating the darkness He called “night.” The expanse of darkness preceding the creation of the light, was tackled six times, and then for God, leading and setting an example, to rest on a seventh time round

Weeping may last for the night, But a shout of joy comes in the morning (i.e. Psalm 30:5b) Now, the question, I would expect anyone to ask, is what's the reason(s) why the word, evening, is used, in reference to the first day, rather than the word, night, in the six times, the 'the evening and the morning' phrase was used?

Chief, can you tell what is that light that was created on the first day?
And for there to be day&night the unknown light will have to be emerging and disappearing just as the sun does.
Unless the light was a kind of site lighting

RuMiRgO1stSon:


Chief, can you tell what is that light that was created on the first day?
And for there to be day&night the unknown light will have to be emerging and disappearing just as the sun does.
Unless the light was a kind of site lighting

LoL @ site lighting. The god was using universal flood lighting. LMFAO!

RuMiRgO1stSon:
So it was recorded in the Bible's book of Genesis that God created the sun and the moon in the fourth day; how then is the writer manage to count the days when its the suns set & risen that determines day?

Hello, my name is David A.O., I wrote the book the science of God and life. A book that’s on sale for a token at https://www.davidaobooks.com/product/the-science-of-god-and-life/. If you don’t mind a token as a support for my project then you can get it and read to understand some of the things you speak of.

But before you do, I’ll like to point out the fact that you’re sure that the writer of the Bible is wrong. I find this to be a usual weakness in humans. No human likes to take blame and accept that they may be Ignorant or at fault, instead they usually blame the other person. Just as you’ve clearly shown and not accept that you may be ignorant of what you’re saying, instead you put the blame on the book and it’s writer.

As a person, I have come to realize that it’s not wise to always put blame on others but instead accept the blame so that I can rationalize better but when you’ve already put the blame on the other person, that will hinder you from rationalizing bc you’re already perfect in ur eyes. Everyone is always perfect in their eyes. Nobody ever says I’m wrong, it’s my fault. Or I’m ignorant, I’ll learn.

Everyone is a pillar of knowledge in their own sense and this is why people are ignorant bc they refuse to learn. Can you learn what you already think you know? Especially when you already think the person is wrong, would you still learn from that person? Just as you’re refusing to learn from the Bible bc you think it’s wrong and you’re right.

You’ve clearly spoken ignorantly here but you can’t see bc you’ve already put the blame on the Bible. Your ignorance isn’t peculiar to the Bible, it spreads scientifically, philosophically and even diabolically. You won’t realize this but I’ll tell you. I’m sorry if it may seem like I’m speaking to you roughly but if it’s not the truth, I wouldn’t say it.

To the basis of discussion. The universe is just a time space, every part of the universe experiences time. For this reason, it becomes unreasonable to say there wasn’t time before the sun. In fact, it’s both unreasonable and illogical to say there wasn’t time before the sun. Every part of the universe is timed, there had been time since the big band and the sun wasn’t even built at that time.

I think you should read wide so that you can speak with knowledge in another time. But if you don’t, you’ll say this somewhere someday and you’ll be looked liked as a fool. Go and do research, and you’ll see that there had already been time before the sun just as the Bible says and science and philosophy confirms it.

The Bible is perfect the way it’s bro, it’s you who has a problem in your heart. Books don’t lie, people read book and give it a meaning according to their level of understanding. This post you made doesn’t look like you know science that much and from where I can see, it doesn’t look like you know the Bible either. So you see? It’s ur fault and not the Bible.

You can read the book I mentioned, I promise it’ll help you understand somethings better. Do not be ashamed and act in defense, be humble and learn. If you’re not humble, life will always find a way to put you where you truly deserve. Also, I’ll greatly appreciate it if you read the book bc it’ll mean that a lot more people are coming to awareness of the truth. There’s a lot to discuss from the verses you pulled. Like which is the lesser light and greater light. I know you’d authoritatively say the sun is the greater light with no evidence other than ur eyes yet perception is not reality. Facts reveal the reality. These are more phenomena discussed in the book. How the Bible talks about time, relativity of time, light, relationship of light, Movement of light etc. the Bible also talks about time dilation and length contraction. It all depends on who’s reading. For example you’re seeing this aren’t you? Would a blind man see it? No they won’t and it’s bc of them not bc of what I have written. Life is plain, the interpretation we have is a testament of our own person. Books are plain, interpretation is based on our person and not the book. A fool will go into a house full of wisdom and still come out foolish, they the wise will go there and come out with wisdom. It all depends on ur bro. See you on the other side of reality

RuMiRgO1stSon:
Chief, can you tell what is that light that was created on the first day?

Darkness, actually is the absence of light. Darkness keeps things from being seen etc, so the light that was created on the first day, is radiation that came from the Light

RuMiRgO1stSon:
And for there to be day & night the unknown light will have to be emerging and disappearing just as the sun does.
Unless the light was a kind of site lighting

Light or light(s) are earlier mentioned is a modifier

Workch:
I still do not see how this makes sense ...

If you cant, then let go

Workch:
... what light was it talking about on the first day?
Is it the sun? If no
How can you determine 4days without the sun?

Day was determined before the creation of sun wasn't it?

Workch:
Can you just read little astronomy before you answer?

I do that now and then in my pastime

Workch:
The Bible cannot be reliable for things like this.

The Bible can be reliable for things like this, if you're experienced enough and know where to look or how to look. Astronomy,beloved, doesnt have all the answer

LordReed:


LoL @ site lighting. The god was using universal flood lighting. LMFAO!

did I just said that
But since nobody knows what light was in the first day, I think speculation is allowed nah

BassReeves:
If you cant, then let go

Day was determined before the creation of sun wasn't it?

I do that now and then in my pastime

The Bible can be reliable for things like this, if you're experienced enough and know where to look or how to look. Astronomy,beloved, doesnt have all the answer

Do you understand basic astronomy?

BassReeves:
Darkness, actually is the absence of light. Darkness keeps things from being seen etc, so the light that was created on the first day, is radiation that came from the Light

Light or light(s) are earlier mentioned is a modifier

a light without name or source

Workch:
Do you understand basic astronomy?

More than you can ever imagine

RuMiRgO1stSon:
a light without name or source

A Light without source? Yes.
A Light without a personal name that is known? Yes
Light emanated a light from the Light? Yes

BassReeves:
More than you can ever imagine

ok, so what do you understand about planetary system formation?

Workch:
ok, so what do you understand about planetary system formation?

Is Muhammed a muslim?

BassReeves:
Is Muhammed a muslim?

We are talking about planets.