paxonel:
The bible never mentioned anything about intersex individuals or any kind of mutants resulting from inbreeding depression or loss of hybrid vigor. Although we heard cases in the bible where angels came down from heaven to have canal knowledge(mate) with humans, as a result there was proliferation of unusual people such as giants who started committing havac to the creation, many of them were wiped out by the great flood of Noah generation.

But we still see unusual traits today like people having four fingernails instead of five, one hand or eye balls bigger in size than the other and even intersex you mentioned, non of these traits were ever mentioned significantly in the bible, only giants were mentioned.

Talking about whether people having these unusual traits like intersex can be Christians or will make heaven?

John 3:16 ...whosoever believes in him..

Mark the word WHOSOEVER.
That means there are no distinction in traits or characters
No distinction in race, tribe or culture or whatever.

Righteousness2:


My Precious Daddy Deliver this young man in JESUS Name

TroubleMaker47:

You are the uninformed person, transgender is simply taking hormonal drugs(e.g Progenisis) to amplify the female hormes and make them more feminine by growing boobs and having feminine curves.
IT IS NOT A NATURAL PROCESS

henryobinna:
I think you're actually confused. Transgender persons actually go through surgeries and sometimes homone altering medications to become their desired gender, what that means is they were not naturally born that way(desired gender).

A popular example is Bruce Jenner who's now known as Caitlyn Jenner, he was a man(an Olympic medalist)
and fathered Children(ex. kylie jenner) before going through the processes I mentioned above to become Caitlyn(a woman).

That being said, you're actually misinforming people.

istina:
What does the bible really say about INTERSEX? By this I do not mean TRANSGENDERS who are entirely different set of people . Socrates said ‘the beginning of wisdom is definition of terms’, so for clarity purpose I think it’s best we define both terms.

TRANSGENDER: Someone appearing as, wishing to be considered as, or having undergone surgery to become a member of the opposite sex.
In a nutshell, a Transgender is someone who wishes to be considered as a member of the opposite sex.

INTERSEX: An organism possessing several sex characteristics of both male and female such as chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones or genitals. It is a situation whereby a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of ‘female’ or ‘male’. Think of someone with all the female physical appearance but has a penis instead of a vaginal.

One of the major differences between the two classes of people is that while INTERSEX is natural, TRANSGENDER is unnatural.

Having known the difference , the question now is what does the bible say concerning those who were naturally born as INTERSEX . Can they be Christians? Can they make heaven?

Jokerman:
Go read apocryphal books, and study about what the fallen Angel's and their nephilim children perpetrated on earth before God had to use the deluge to wipe out humanity?, and understand that INTERSEX or TRANSGENDER etc, is not of God...

istina:
What does the bible really say about INTERSEX? By this I do not mean TRANSGENDERS who are entirely different set of people . Socrates said ‘the beginning of wisdom is definition of terms’, so for clarity purpose I think it’s best we define both terms.

TRANSGENDER: Someone appearing as, wishing to be considered as, or having undergone surgery to become a member of the opposite sex.
In a nutshell, a Transgender is someone who wishes to be considered as a member of the opposite sex.

INTERSEX: An organism possessing several sex characteristics of both male and female such as chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones or genitals. It is a situation whereby a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of ‘female’ or ‘male’. Think of someone with all the female physical appearance but has a penis instead of a vaginal.

One of the major differences between the two classes of people is that while INTERSEX is natural, TRANSGENDER is unnatural.

Having known the difference , the question now is what does the bible say concerning those who were naturally born as INTERSEX . Can they be Christians? Can they make heaven?

henryobinna:
I think you're actually confused. Transgender persons actually go through surgeries and sometimes homone altering medications to become their desired gender, what that means is they were not naturally born that way(desired gender).

A popular example is Bruce Jenner who's now known as Caitlyn Jenner, he was a man(an Olympic medalist)
and fathered Children(ex. kylie jenner) before going through the processes I mentioned above to become Caitlyn(a woman).

That being said, you're actually misinforming people.

chatinent:


You will die bro.

There's more to John 3:16.

AntiChristian:
Hmmm, this one no dey Bible o!

istina:
What does the bible really say about INTERSEX? By this I do not mean TRANSGENDERS who are entirely different set of people . Socrates said ‘the beginning of wisdom is definition of terms’, so for clarity purpose I think it’s best we define both terms.

TRANSGENDER: Someone appearing as, wishing to be considered as, or having undergone surgery to become a member of the opposite sex.
In a nutshell, a Transgender is someone who wishes to be considered as a member of the opposite sex.

INTERSEX: An organism possessing several sex characteristics of both male and female such as chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones or genitals. It is a situation whereby a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of ‘female’ or ‘male’. Think of someone with all the female physical appearance but has a penis instead of a vaginal.

One of the major differences between the two classes of people is that while INTERSEX is natural, TRANSGENDER is unnatural.

Having known the difference , the question now is what does the bible say concerning those who were naturally born as INTERSEX . Can they be Christians? Can they make heaven?

KaluwisxPRO:


Black people has the highest amount of Transgender in the world. Bruce is a millionaire and can afford whatever procedure he wants, hence he went for it. Natural born trans do not, Bruce and your Bobrisky are cross dressers who wishes they were Trans.

Uninformed individuals like you need to go to Vietnam and Thailand to see millions of Transgenders, then come back and tell me they all took medication. Read an actual book Mr

FYI, there are lots and lots of natural born trans in Nigeria, but our society still see them as unnatural being with our I-too-holy-better pass mentality.

1Alex:
Op are you one? You did not create yourself. You are normal in the sight of God.

AntiChristian:
Hmmm, this one no dey Bible o!

paxonel:
The bible never mentioned anything about intersex individuals or any kind of mutants resulting from inbreeding depression or loss of hybrid vigor. Although we heard cases in the bible where angels came down from heaven to have canal knowledge(mate) with humans, as a result there was proliferation of unusual people such as giants who started committing havac to the creation, many of them were wiped out by the great flood of Noah generation.

But we still see unusual traits today like people having four fingernails instead of five, one hand or eye balls bigger in size than the other and even intersex you mentioned, non of these traits were ever mentioned significantly in the bible, only giants were mentioned.

Talking about whether people having these unusual traits like intersex can be Christians or will make heaven?

John 3:16 ...whosoever believes in him..

Mark the word WHOSOEVER.
That means there are no distinction in traits or characters
No distinction in race, tribe or culture or whatever.

post=107209027:
From a biblical perspective, the answer is “no.” Despite the fact that a tiny fraction of the population faces life with an intersex condition, Scripture teaches that humans are made in God’s image as male and female, and that there’s a complementarity of the sexes that uniquely brings forth new life and – mysteriously – reflects who God is (Gen. 1:27). Clearly, gender and sexuality matter to God.

Yet, we humans live in a fallen state – and in a fallen world – which impacts us spiritually, emotionally, mentally and even physically. Indeed, there are a number of genetic, biological and congenital conditions that manifest themselves in ways that preclude certain activities and plague our physical existence.
But we know that God is good and He intends to show Himself strong in our weaknesses. Moreover, His mercies are new every morning (Lam. 3:23) and He promises us the ongoing and sufficient grace we need (2 Cor. 12:9) in order to walk in ways that bring Him glory and more fully reveal Himself to a broken and dying world.

So how should we, as Christians, minister to those among us who deal with the unique and often traumatic circumstances associated with intersexuality?
Some intersex individuals will marry, and some may never discover their underlying condition. But Jesus’ own words, as recorded in Matthew 19, should serve as our guide for those who cannot or don’t marry due to intersex issues.

Recall that in this passage Jesus is discussing eunuchs who were “born” that way, “made that way” by men, or have “renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven.” While the context of this statement by Jesus is clearly centered on the questions of divorce, marriage, and God’s created intent for human sexual expression, it’s comforting to note that Jesus frames both the beginning and end of his comments here with an acknowledgment that not all can accept this word – indicating deep compassion on His part with those who find themselves in circumstances whereby they are unable to enter into the “one-flesh union” of marriage, whether by design, mutilation or personal decision. Moreover, Jesus indicates that this calling is given to only a few – implying that abundant grace is afforded to those who, for whatever reason, are to bear what Paul refers to as the gift of singleness (1 Cor. 7).

Culled

KaluwisxPRO:
Who told this man that being a transgender is unnatural? This is the effect of what bobrisky has caused, making Nigerians thinks Transgenders are surgically done. (Transgender and crossdresser) I believe what this idiot meant is a cross dresser and not a trans. Because actual trans have natural organs but opposite gender hormones.

Please read an actual book and know the difference between intersex, cross dresser and transgenders and stop misinforming the public with your half brain

TripleOh7:



The problem of Transgenders on the other hand isn't biological but psychological. Unfortunately, society encourages them to chase shadows by changing their bodies through surgery and using hormone blockers when all they need is therapy with psychologists or psychiatrists.

henryobinna:
The problem you have is you don't know the appropriate word/term to use. The 'trans' in the word literally means they transferring or moving from one gender to another. If they were born naturally that way why then do they need to 'transfer' to another gender( so to speak)?



The people you're talking about I believe are those this thread is specifically discussing about and that is intersex, those who were naturally born with both reproductive organs or features.


The other group are people who were born a particular gender(sex) say Male but feel like and wish to be the other gender(female) those are transgender and Bruce is one of those and not even Bobrisky as I'm not sure has undergone any surgery like Bruce.

I'm aware that sometimes intersex people are sometimes considered as transgender but on this discussion that's not what we're talking about as we've already classified them as intersex (and they're naturally born).

I don't even see the essence of the insults.

manlawal:
I think you are the idiot here there no way you can change from one gender to the another without surgery , trans doesn't have opposite hormones they take injections of the opposite sexx to regulate their hormone

nijaomegacode:
I don't know.
What I do know is this.
NEVER marry a woman you did not disvirgin. She's a curse to her children: born and unborn.