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Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:07pm On Nov 09, 2021
Workch:
even at that, microevolution disproves Adam and Eve. If not, between Adam and Eve, who’s was Asian, Negroid or Caucasian?

Geology disproves Noah’s ark.
Gravity disprove Jesus ascension to heaven ( how can a man ascend without reaching escape velocity and no force propelled him?)
Statistic disproves the efficacy of prayers

Biology disproves Jesus birth. The Bible is just a bunch of lies

And you think you are okay to believe those nonsense?

The law of on and off botton on your creations does not apply to you their creator.

The law of self immobility on your creations does not apply to you.

The law of purchase and permanently possess to death does not apply to you their creator.

You do not need masts, internet and batteries to work unlike your creations.

So, it is the Proof of Creator when a Creator is not affected by Laws which affects all creations.

It's as simple as that!
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by IMAliyu(m): 1:10pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


The same way you refuse to look or even accept the evidence of God supplied.
Which were?
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:10pm On Nov 09, 2021
Workch:
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless you grin

Evidence and Proof of Insanity! grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:16pm On Nov 09, 2021
IMAliyu:

While a belief in a creator is not illogical. So far in observation every cause also has a cause, the chain reaction goes on.

So wouldn't it also be safe to assume, if a creator is present it should also have a cause?

Exactly as your car and laptop assuming and presuming that because they have batteries, you too must run on batteries, whereas, they can never know The Truth.

Presumption and Speculation are not Truths.

Till then, no presumptions for if you can presume, I can presume too, and I do presume (and know) that there is no Further Cause Where God is, therefore 1-1.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:23pm On Nov 09, 2021
IMAliyu:

A correction, humans are still apes, what evolution states is all apes descend from a common ancestor.

Does this not sound like a very convenient Lie?

Exactly as you query the Bible. Ape no one has seen except the writers of your Bible (geologist and all).

And they could all be Lying and are Lying because they do not want men Following God.

Is this not exactly the argument you raised against the Bible and God Followers?

Now that it is time to apply that thinking on this side you have all dispensed with it. DO YOU SEE HOW IMBALANCED YOU PEOPLE ARE?
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by kingxsamz(m): 1:29pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin You read it and you saw that you people are still Insane! grin

Nah, didn't read any part of it.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:47pm On Nov 09, 2021
kingxsamz:


Nah, didn't read any part of it.

Do we not know all Anti-God are Liars? grin abeg tell your phone dat one. cheesy Besides, your non-reading will not stop me from eating Grilled Fish and Potato Chips Tonight! grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by kingxsamz(m): 1:51pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Do we not know all Anti-God are Liars? grin abeg tell your phone dat one. cheesy Besides, your non-reading will not stop me from eating Grilled Fish and Potato Chips Tonight! grin
Doesn't change the fact that I didn't waste my time on your epistle. cheesy
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by IMAliyu(m): 1:52pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Does this not sound like a very convenient Lie?

What exactly
The humans are apes part?
Or the all apes share a common ancestor part?


And they could all be Lying and are Lying because they do not want men Following God.
That seems to just be the reaction you have.
The universe having a creator, and evolution being real are not mutually exclusive.

A deist could claim, God created and set the initial conditions that resulted in the evolution of humanity.

So, no I disagree.


Is this not exactly the argument you raised against the Bible and God Followers?

Now that it is time to apply that thinking on this side you have all dispensed with it. DO YOU SEE HOW IMBALANCED YOU PEOPLE ARE?
??
I'm genuinely confused on what you're crying foul about?

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Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Workch: 3:21pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Evidence and Proof of Insanity! grin
That's how I also feel when you tell me about your God
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Workch: 3:23pm On Nov 09, 2021
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Dtruthspeaker:


The law of on and off botton on your creations does not apply to you their creator.

The law of self immobility on your creations does not apply to you.

The law of purchase and permanently possess to death does not apply to you their creator.

You do not need masts, internet and batteries to work unlike your creations.

So, it is the Proof of Creator when a Creator is not affected by Laws which affects all creations.

It's as simple as that!
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Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:35pm On Nov 09, 2021
Workch:
That's how I also feel when you tell me about your God

grin I did not tell you about God, you of your own madness and in your insanity ask about Him. If you were probably not insane, may be you could have had a bottle of hot H2SO4 and be relieved. grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Workch: 3:36pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin I did not tell you about God, you of your own madness and in your insanity ask about Him. If you were probably not insane, may be you could have had a bottle of hot H2SO4 and be relieved. grin
Oh ok, then accept the flying spaghetti monster.

There's evidence that he created your God but we haven't find it yetb
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:52pm On Nov 09, 2021
IMAliyu:

??
I'm genuinely confused on what you're crying foul about?

You are confused because you are shocked that the exact queries which you and your kind raise against God and the Bible could be used against you.

And you did not expect it, hence you do not have a rebuttal here and you are attempting to give yourself time to think about it by claiming "I am confused"!

IMAliyu:

What exactly
The humans are apes part?
Or the all apes share a common ancestor part?

Res ipsa loquitur.

You can agree with your club members that you are an ape or monkey, that is your Right, but I'm happy to stand with Nature, which has proven that I am different from gorrillas and baboons.

All in all, this is one of our several irreconcilable differences. You love the notion of No God and Accountability and Responsibility hence your pursuits and I want every criminal and evil and wicked person out there to be brought to "just is"
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:55pm On Nov 09, 2021
Workch:
Oh ok, then accept the flying spaghetti monster.

There's evidence that he created your God but we haven't find it yetb

grin No one listens to Mad men but they are amusing to workch! grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:59pm On Nov 09, 2021
kingxsamz:

Doesn't change the fact that I didn't waste my time on your epistle. cheesy

grin Your responses shout "eh! Sam you too dey Lie. Na becos e pain you after you read am na im you wan unread am come dey Lie say you know read am"! grin.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Workch: 4:14pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin No one listens to Mad men but they are amusing to workch! grin
That's how you sound to atheists when you talking yahweh
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:28pm On Nov 09, 2021
Workch:
That's how you sound to atheists when you talking yahweh

That's not true! As Evident by their continuous attack and unwarranted insults, we are a great and painfull Annoyance to you Anti-God, most especially when we do not remember you people exist but we are happy to hear your entertaining cries and queries.

It surely reminds people of how Fear Full and God is and His Fulfillment of His Prophecies.

And nairaland would be boring without you guys to spruce it up! grin

So keep it coming boys! grin grin it's great to be here in Nairaland Religion. grin And this is where the action is.

Car talk used to be like this but God's Plagues has dried it up, grin people no dey spoil dia moto to buy anoda one angry

But in religion with you people, there is no dull moment. grin

So workch on! grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by kingxsamz(m): 4:29pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Your responses shout "eh! Sam you too dey Lie. Na becos e pain you after you read am na im you wan unread am come dey Lie say you know read am"! grin.

You wish. cheesy
Next time make your responses short. If not I excuse them as rants.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:39pm On Nov 09, 2021
kingxsamz:

You wish. cheesy
Next time make your responses short. If not I excuse them as rants.

grin When I speak you read, grin

you hate to, but you gats to! grin

Just to check whether I have made a mistake so that YOU COULD SEE ME FALL! grin grin

You have no choice, you just gotta know if I am Fallible! grin

And of course after a few words, you are disappointed, as you already knew you shall be, when you see that it has not happened! grin

That is the Pain you live with Every Nairaland Religion Day. grin grin grin

Maybe, that they may come, but you just gat to wait for it, and be there to witness it! grin

So till then Sammy Boy, stay Pained grin grin grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by IMAliyu(m): 5:10pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


You are confused because you are shocked that the exact queries which you and your kind raise against God and the Bible could be used against you.

And you did not expect it, hence you do not have a rebuttal here and you are attempting to give yourself time to think about it by claiming "I am confused"!

Which enquires did you make? Highlight them.

You have a habit of avoiding being straight forward. So just highlight the enquiry, or save me the rambling.


You can agree with your club members that you are an ape or monkey, that is your Right, but I'm happy to stand with Nature, which has proven that I am different from gorrillas and baboons.

All in all, this is one of our several irreconcilable differences. You love the notion of No God and Accountability and Responsibility hence your pursuits and I want every criminal and evil and wicked person out there to be brought to "just is"

Ape definition : a mammal that has long arms and no tail or a short tail. A primate of the families Hylobatidae and Hominidae ( which includes chimpanzees, bonobos, orangutans, gorillas, and human beings).

I see you keep attempting to make things personal, with your false assumptions to detract from the topic at hand.

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Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by LordReed(m): 5:33pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

You love the notion of No God and Accountability and Responsibility hence your pursuits and I want every criminal and evil and wicked person out there to be brought to "just is"


LMAO! IMAliyu is not an atheist.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:43pm On Nov 09, 2021
IMAliyu:

Which enquires did you make? Highlight them.

You have a habit of avoiding being straight forward. So just highlight the enquiry, or save me the rambling.

I said "queries" and not "enquiries".

Secondly, stop acting as though you just joined nairaland whereas you have participated in countless attacks on Bible's report about the creation of this world while defending the Lie of Evolution.

So this is not a fresh debate and right now, it is your evolution that is being torn apart, with the very same weapons you and your kind used against the Bible which you have all conveniently "failed to ask" when it came to your evolution.

So exactly as you told those churchgoers who did not know their stuff, I tell it to you, either you address those issues I raised or hold your peace for WE ALL KNOW THAT EVOLUTION IS A LIE! EVEN WORKCH CONFESSED THIS IN ONE THREAD SOME TIME BACK.

For the avoidance of doubt, did I not put this to you

"Does this not sound like a very convenient Lie?

Exactly as you query the Bible. Ape no one has seen except the writers of your Bible (geologist and all).

And they could all be Lying and are Lying because they do not want men Following God.

Is this not exactly the argument you raised against the Bible and God Followers?"

and your response was to PLAY AVOIDANCE, which of course I expected because you did not expect this line of attack?
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:46pm On Nov 09, 2021
LordReed:


LMAO! IMAliyu is not an atheist.

He always supports atheists, and he is always against the God, the Bible and God Followers.

That is complete proof of an atheist.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by kingxsamz(m): 5:50pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin When I speak you read, grin

you hate to, but you gats to! grin

Just to check whether I have made a mistake so that YOU COULD SEE ME FALL! grin grin

You have no choice, you just gotta know if I am Fallible! grin

And of course after a few words, you are disappointed, as you already knew you shall be, when you see that it has not happened! grin

That is the Pain you live with Every Nairaland Religion Day. grin grin grin

Maybe, that they may come, but you just gat to wait for it, and be there to witness it! grin

So till then Sammy Boy, stay Pained grin grin grin




Didn't read this too bro.
You're only exciting yourself for no reason.
Type less next time. cheesy
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by LordReed(m): 5:51pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


He always supports atheists, and he is always against the God, the Bible and God Followers.

That is complete proof of an atheist.

I don't think he always supports atheists, what I do know is he always supports the correct statements of science.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:56pm On Nov 09, 2021
LordReed:

I don't think he always supports atheists, what I do know is he always supports the correct statements of science.

Proof of atheism. Atheists support science and attack God, the Bible, God Followers.

And he does all these.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:04pm On Nov 09, 2021
kingxsamz:


Didn't read this too bro.
You're only exciting yourself for no reason.
Type less next time. cheesy

grin Sammy boy, i know you are in pain and I have left you alone why do you bring me back? Oh, you have become a last word man

Okay, pluck the last word na, so that you can have a space in your crying! grin
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by kingxsamz(m): 6:10pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Sammy boy, i know you are in pain and I have left you alone why do you bring me back? Oh, you have become a last word man

Okay, pluck the last word na, so that you can have a space in your crying! grin

Don't force it bro. cheesy
You can masturbate over the thought of me being bothered about your posts all you want, still doesn't change the fact that I didn't read nor care care about your epistles.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by LordReed(m): 6:36pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Proof of atheism. Atheists support science and attack God, the Bible, God Followers.

And he does all these.

Then you an atheist. Atheists brush their teeth every morning, take their baths, eat breakfast and go to work, same as you therefore you're an atheist! LMAO!
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by IMAliyu(m): 6:48pm On Nov 09, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


He always supports atheists, and he is always against the God, the Bible and God Followers.

That is complete proof of an atheist.
Lol, what if I told you, that in practice I'm still muslim, just not an Orthodox one, and on the ultimate question of "does God exist" I'm just agnostic.
This I will say, we hold wildly different ideas of a creator should one exist.

The concepts of religious faith and belief, have become alien to me. I've seen the consequences of blind and fanatical religious faith. I've had some of what I strongly believed was solid and unshakable truth in religion and reality, shaken when I myself placed them under scrutiny.
So what I want is a form of empiricism to the approach of the question of religion and God, but all I find is disappoinment. https://www.nairaland.com/5942094/how-should-one-find-out#90930629

And I have a love for science and distaste for people that will try to distort science or attribute false claims to it, intentionally or ignorantly to further a propaganda. So I will always try to correct or educate them.
Re: Science Does Not Disprove The Existence Of A Creator But Establishes it. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:12pm On Nov 09, 2021
IMAliyu:

Lol, what if I told you, that in practice I'm still muslim, just not an Orthodox one, and on the ultimate question of "does God exist" I'm just agnostic.
This I will say, we hold wildly different ideas of a creator should one exist.

The concepts of religious faith and belief, have become alien to me. I've seen the consequences of blind and fanatical religious faith. I've had some of what I strongly believed was solid and unshakable truth in religion and reality, shaken when I myself placed them under scrutiny.
So what I want is a form of empiricism to the approach of the question of religion and God, but all I find is disappoinment. https://www.nairaland.com/5942094/how-should-one-find-out#90930629

And I have a love for science and distaste for people that will try to distort science or attribute false claims to it, intentionally or ignorantly to further a propaganda. So I will always try to correct or educate them.

Yeah, I know. You have said this before. BUT MY COMMENT IS BASED ON WHAT I SEE YOU DO AND DOING!

And you are a lot more adverse to Lying than the others.

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