MaxInDHouse:


We read, study and meditate!

The writers can't understand what transfusion is since it doesn't exist in their own time, so it's the scholars that will use their God's given brains to figure out the PRACTICAL APPLICATION.
We say it's having nothing to do with blood from other sources, we're not forcing our beliefs on you so if you don't agree with us go and practice what you want!

I choose to depend on the word of God and not someone else understanding. Just so you know, you eat blood anytime you eat meat. So you are not even keeping your own law.

tctrills:

If you choose to depend on the bible for your science, it's up to you. Your so-called faithless researchers have actually impacted much more to the world than the science of Isaiah and Job. But it's up to you to depend on Isaiah for your science.

Hitting the nail on the head. The children of this age are wiser or shrewd than the sons of the light . That is the words of Jesus paapaa. His own case is to condemn what others have put in place for their benefits while still enjoying such benefits.

Faithless Scientists produced ZOOM, produced vaccines and numerous measures the only FAITHFUL Scientists today are banking on to continue to further their religious gatherings and activities all over the world. You see them hyping virtual conventions all over the world at the same time. What they forget is the work of FAITHLESS Scientists that made such arrangements possible.

achorladey:


Hitting the nail on the head. The children of this age are wiser or shrewd than the sons of the light . That is the words of Jesus paapaa. His own case is to condemn what others have put in place for their benefits while still enjoying such benefits.

Faithless Scientists produced ZOOM, produced vaccines and numerous measures the only FAITHFUL Scientists today are banking on to continue to further their religious gatherings and activities all over the world. You see them hyping virtual conventions all over the world at the same time. What they forget is the work of FAITHLESS Scientists that made such arrangements possible.

That is my point. We can rely on the bible to lead us to God not as a science textbook.

tctrills:

If you choose to depend on the bible for your science, it's up to you. Your so-called faithless researchers have actually impacted much more to the world than the science of Isaiah and Job. But it's up to you to depend on Isaiah for your science.

There are faithful scientists like Moses and Isaiah who gave accurate information always even though faithless researchers also claiming scientists will be around to contradict them.
So choose for yourself!

tctrills:

I choose to depend on the word of God and not someone else understanding. Just so you know, you eat blood anytime you eat meat. So you are not even keeping your own law.

Now you're talking!
Just say God's word makes no sense to you, ill understand but coming to contradict God's word disguising as a believer you will fail when you face JWs.
God said "remove the blood before cooking it" so if you don't agree with that it's your own cup of coffee!

MaxInDHouse:

Now you're talking!
Just say God's word makes no sense to you, ill understand but coming to contradict God's word disguising as a believer you will fail when you face JWs.
God said "remove the blood before cooking it" so if you don't agree with that it's your own cup of coffee!

Actually, I am saying God's words make no sense to you. because when you attempt to explain it beyond the bible, you run into trouble

MaxInDHouse:

There are faithful scientists like Moses and Isaiah who gave accurate information always even though faithless researchers also claiming scientists will be around to contradict them.
So choose for yourself!

Whatever makes you sleep well at night. I don't use the bible for my science update.

tctrills:

Actually, I am saying God's words make no sense to you. because when you attempt to explain it beyond the bible, you run into trouble

Trouble with who?
We have millions of people who are OK with what i'm saying and they're happily living as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally.
So i don't care about whoever doesn't agree after all there is contradictions everywhere!

tctrills:

Whatever makes you sleep well at night. I don't use the bible for my science update.

Your PERSONAL opinion my friend!

MaxInDHouse:

Trouble with who?
We have millions of people who are OK with what i'm saying and they're happily living as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally.
So i don't care about whoever doesn't agree after all there is contradictions everywhere!

Having millions or billions of people who believe a wrong idea is not a big deal. My point remains, you do not add to God's word and you don't depend on your little human brain to interpret his words. Lastly, you are not smarter than God. If God is against Blood transfusion, he would state it. We wouldn't be hearing it from you but from him.

tctrills:

Having millions or billions of people who believe a wrong idea is not a big deal. My point remains, you do not add to God's word and you don't depend on your little human brain to interpret his words. Lastly, you are not smarter than God. If God is against Blood transfusion, he would state it. We wouldn't be hearing it from you but from him.

RIGHT or WRONG depends on the angle from where you're seeing things.
If you feel my interpretation is wrong that's exactly how i feel about yours, so keep yours for those who will join you in worshiping your God while i'll keep mine for those who will worship my own God.
No wahala!

MaxInDHouse:


RIGHT or WRONG depends on the angle from where you're seeing things.
If you feel my interpretation is wrong that's exactly how i feel about yours, so keep yours for those who will join you in worshiping your God while i'll keep mine for those who will worship my own God.
No wahala!

My very point, when we depend on our feelings for interpretation, we end up in different churches. This has nothing to do with God but everything to do with human differences.

tctrills:
My very point, when we depend on our feelings for interpretation, we end up in different churches. This has nothing to do with God but everything to do with human differences.

Inconsistency exposed you as a liar!

If you don't trust God's word on issues having to do with science,then what makes you feel the Bible didn't condemn blood transfusion?
You're not ready to rely on the book yet you want to argue on what the book says, how does that sound to you yourself?

Well if you must know, only Jehovah's Witnesses fully believe (trust) the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:

Inconsistency exposed you as a liar!

If you don't trust God's word on issues having to do with science,then what makes you feel the Bible didn't condemn blood transfusion?
You're not ready to rely on the book yet you want to argue on what the book says, how does that sound to you yourself?

Well if you must know, only Jehovah's Witnesses fully believe (trust) the Bible!

I want to reply to what you just said especially because you called me a liar but I am not sure I understand your point. God's words have to do with salvation, not science. I am not sure I would read the bible if I am researching genetics.

tctrills:

I want to reply to what you just said especially because you called me a liar but I am not sure I understand your point. God's words have to do with salvation, not science. I am not sure I would read the bible if I am researching genetics.

The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so believers in God's word fully trust what God says above anything else. If you want to trust in God's word then it's only on aspects not mentioned in His word that you're free to choose not when God say something and you decide to take what others say asserting they know better than God.
Any topic you prefer is your own cup of coffee but when BELIEVERS are talking about God's word upon which our faith is built please keep quiet because you're not ready to comply fully with what is written in God's word!

MaxInDHouse:

Inconsistency exposed you as a liar!

If you don't trust God's word on issues having to do with science,then what makes you feel the Bible didn't condemn blood transfusion?
You're not ready to rely on the book yet you want to argue on what the book says, how does that sound to you yourself?

Well if you must know, only Jehovah's Witnesses fully believe (trust) the Bible!

do you TRUST the bible enough by agreeing or accepting blood transfusions or blood fraction transfusion as the case applies since your bible states abstain from it?

Do your religious organization trust the bible when they give you permission to transfuse blood and blood fractions since the bible states abstain from it?

The INCONSISTENCY regarding this blood issues and the policies used by the organization you belong ko legbe. Just go check the number of times the NO BLOOD CARD and DPA have been edited over the years including the policy document guiding your HLC personnel within this your organization.

Any topic you prefer is your own cup of coffee but when
BELIEVERS are talking about God's word upon which our faith is built please keep quiet because you're not ready to comply fully with what is written in God's word!.....MaxInDHouse

this is the reason for your cut and paste blood transfusion news report and saga. Loooool. The bible did not mention blood transfusion. Leave it to the scientist then. It is not a biblical topic on its own

MaxInDHouse:


The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so believers in God's word fully trust what God says above anything else. If you want to trust in God's word then it's only on aspects not mentioned in His word that you're free to choose not when God say something and you decide to take what others say asserting they know better than God.
Any topic you prefer is your own cup of coffee but when BELIEVERS are talking about God's word upon which our faith is built please keep quiet because you're not ready to comply fully with what is written in God's word!

Trusting God's words is one thing but adding to God's words is another. You do not add to God's words. If you trust God's words as you claim then why add salt and pepper and why depend on your brains.

Also, not everything in the bible is God's words. For example, Paul told Timoty to take a little wine for the belly. That was Paul's medical advice. Modern medicine has better medications for indigestion than wine. So when a doctor gives you drugs for the belly, you don't reject it and drink wine instead.

tctrills:

Trusting God's words is one thing but adding to God's words is another. You do not add to God's words. If you trust God's words as you claim then why add salt and pepper and why depend on your brains.

God's word must be interpreted for others to understand that's why Jesus promised those anointed as teachers:
 “I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come John 16:12-13
This is the group that God's Holy Spirit will teach {John 14:26} then they will in turn teach others! Matthew 28:20
So if you don't know the anointed teachers of God's word, i'm sorry for you!

tctrills:

Also, not everything in the bible is God's words. For example, Paul told Timoty to take a little wine for the belly. That was Paul's medical advice. Modern medicine has better medications for indigestion than wine. So when a doctor gives you drugs for the belly, you don't reject it and drink wine instead.

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
Because i believe he/she must first believe in God before thinking of how to help me medically!

MaxInDHouse:

God's word must be interpreted for others to understand that's why Jesus promised those anointed as teachers:
 “I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come John 16:12-13
This is the group that God's Holy Spirit will teach {John 14:26} then they will in turn teach others! Matthew 28:20
So if you don't know the anointed teachers of God's word, i'm sorry for you!

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.

Because i believe he/she must first believe in God before thinking of how to help me medically!

I agree with you, God's word is interpreted by those who have the spirit. iF YOU don't have the spirit you would never understand.

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
I kind of believe you have your own personal bible. How did you know that Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks? So would you give alcohol to your baby for stomach pain? Since you claim wine is God's inspired treatment for stomach pain.
also, would you use your inspired wine for every single belly illness? You take wine for kidney stones, for running stomach, for stomach infection, for canscer of the liver.

MaxInDHouse:

God's word must be interpreted for others to understand that's why Jesus promised those anointed as teachers:
 “I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come John 16:12-13
This is the group that God's Holy Spirit will teach {John 14:26} then they will in turn teach others! Matthew 28:20
So if you don't know the anointed teachers of God's word, i'm sorry for you!

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
Because i believe he/she must first believe in God before thinking of how to help me medically!

Just so you know, the faithless greeks used wine as medication years before Paul was born. And so you know, we now have more advanced medication than wine.

tctrills:

Just so you know, the faithless greeks used wine as medication years before Paul was born. And so you know, we now have more advanced medication than wine.

SCIENCE before SCIENCE!
Manufacturers of drugs use many ingredients (including hard substances like ALCOHOL) so when Paul told Timothy to use alcohol, God's Holy Spirit was revealing to us what will become of such hard substance in the future.
Where were you and your faithless researchers when the greatest Scientist (GOD) created flying creatures thousands of years ago with rubber filled legs that will protect them from electric wires?
My friend go and relax, God's word has always been ahead of your faithless researchers claiming scientists!

tctrills:

I agree with you, God's word is interpreted by those who have the spirit. iF YOU don't have the spirit you would never understand.

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
I kind of believe you have your own personal bible. How did you know that Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks? So would you give alcohol to your baby for stomach pain? Since you claim wine is God's inspired treatment for stomach pain.
also, would you use your inspired wine for every single belly illness? You take wine for kidney stones, for running stomach, for stomach infection, for canscer of the liver.

The credit for advancements technology and manufacturing of drugs is not for faithless researchers but all scientists, so don't tell me that the credit should be given to faithless ones like you!

See how they use style change the thread from 100years of fruitless efforts to another lie of blood transfusion

Emusan:
See how they use style change the thread from 100years of fruitless efforts to another lie of blood transfusion

Don't mind the OP jàre, he was the one who switched over to blood transfusion when he found out that the 100 years issue doesn't put JWs in a bad light as he expected!

RussellRutherfo:


I had a friend who had a medical condition when he was little. He confessed to me after awaking from the dead organization that if his parents were to be Jehovah witnesses when he was born with a medical condition that needed blood transfusion.

He won't have been alive today. That shocked me and is a reminder why all hands must be on deck to continue to expose the dark deeds of this evil Watch Tower Babble Society and liberate many under the capitivity of this brainwashing cult. I can only imagine how many children have been given no chance to live by an organization that makes up teachings on the go that are not biblical and have continued to change their teachings over the years.

Proverbs 4:19
The wicked continue to stumble in darkness.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't mind the OP jàre, he was the one who switched over to blood transfusion

Reading what he wrote, he didn't switch over but only brought that as a point.

when he found out that the 100 years issue doesn't put JWs in a bad light as he expected!

It actually did because if not you & your brother won't still be on this thread pushing it to 8pages.

One of your brother even called the OP "EWU" I guess you know the meaning.

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Lastly, did I quote you before you reply my post?

MaxInDHouse:


SCIENCE before SCIENCE!
Manufacturers of drugs use many ingredients (including hard substances like ALCOHOL) so when Paul told Timothy to use alcohol, God's Holy Spirit was revealing to us what will become of such hard substance in the future.
Where were you and your faithless researchers when the greatest Scientist (GOD) created flying creatures thousands of years ago with rubber filled legs that will protect them from electric wires?
My friend go and relax, God's word has always been ahead of your faithless researchers claiming scientists!

So why are you banking on the works of FAITHLESS scientists when you can just use the greatest scientist creatures to do whatever you want to do?


God's word has always been ahead of your faithless Scientists yet you abandoned abstaining from blood and go into blood transfusion and blood fractions transfusions medical procedures.

Wetin una dey use am do

God's word has always been ahead of you, what are you and your religious organisation doing on ZOOM when the HOLY SPIRIT can just connect all of you together with no physical aids paapaa?

God words has always been ahead of you, what are you doing with corona vaccines when you only need the creatures of the greatest scientist to tap vaccines from?

You and this your regimented kind of thinking.

Emusan:


Reading what he wrote, he didn't switch over but only brought that as a point.



It actually did because if not you & your brother won't still be on this thread pushing it to 8pages.

One of your brother even called the OP "EWU" I guess you know the meaning.

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Lastly, did I quote you before you reply my post?

Lastly, did I quote you before you reply my post


He will comeback and say he wants to quench your thirst just like the case of rich man and Lazarus

Wahala for the person wey like to quench the taste or thirst of others.

MaxInDHouse:


The credit for advancements technology and manufacturing of drugs is not for faithless researchers but all scientists, so don't tell me that the credit should be given to faithless ones like you!

The credit for advancements technology and manufacturing of drugs is not for faithless researchers but all scientists

Emphasis on all scientist. Faithless Scientists included abi?

MaxInDHouse:

God's word must be interpreted for others to understand that's why Jesus promised those anointed as teachers:
 “I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come John 16:12-13
This is the group that God's Holy Spirit will teach {John 14:26} then they will in turn teach others! Matthew 28:20
So if you don't know the anointed teachers of God's word, i'm sorry for you!

Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired!
Timothy must be one of those who don't take alcoholic drinks, Paul is here telling him to take it for his stomach illness.
Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
Because i believe he/she must first believe in God before thinking of how to help me medically!

Perhaps you've forgotten so i'll repeat myself. If a doctor doesn't believe in God i won't even patronize him talkless taking medical advice from him.
Because i believe he/she must first believe in God before thinking of how to help me medically

Emphasis on your doctor believing in God

I am curious to which God

A. The God of Jehovah's witnesses

B. The God of Christendom of which you call (God of confusion)

C. I choose to quench your thirst

D. I look elsewhere

E. Apostate alert.

F. It is the fault of regimented thinking

MaxInDHouse:


The credit for advancements technology and manufacturing of drugs is not for faithless researchers but all scientists, so don't tell me that the credit should be given to faithless ones like you!

I was talking specifically about the faithless Greeks who used alcohol as medication even before the birth of Paul

MaxInDHouse:


SCIENCE before SCIENCE!
Manufacturers of drugs use many ingredients (including hard substances like ALCOHOL) so when Paul told Timothy to use alcohol, God's Holy Spirit was revealing to us what will become of such hard substance in the future.
Where were you and your faithless researchers when the greatest Scientist (GOD) created flying creatures thousands of years ago with rubber filled legs that will protect them from electric wires?
My friend go and relax, God's word has always been ahead of your faithless researchers claiming scientists!

I really don't know your point. No one reads the bible to understand science and no one reads science to understand God. You keep conflicting everything. You seem to be one of those that went to bible school and feel they are qualified to speak on every topic