BKayy:
Shame on anybody that fell for Alagoa.
Shame on UniPort that gave him Prof Emeritus.
Shame on all UniPort students and Alumni. If you live close to UniPort or do business there, shame on you as well.

Modified: University of Ibadan is the real culprit.
Shame on University of Ibadan and every brown roofian in Ibadan.
Shame on Afonjas Worldwide.

God bless University of Swansea.

Special Announcement to Afonjas: If you want to fight Ndigbo, come direct and stop going through the Corners.
Shameless Cowards.

OfoIgbo:


Alabo7978 the miscreant. Haven't you yet recovered from the Dr. Baikie blow? I figured you wanted to make Dr. Baikie the cornerstone of your landgrabbing claim, until you got knocked out by Dr. Baikie's writing that Ubani people claim Igbo descent. Since then, I know I have been giving you sleepless nights, with my Igbo brothers infusing terrible nightmares to your rest.

Ubani (Okoloma) and Opubo will forever be Igbo estates. You can jump off a cliff, if you are not happy with this state of affairs

izac82:

Those guys are evil. They just pray and work tirelessly for Igboland to remain down so there seaport will keep booming.

Liebermantic:
Anytime I posted this history to Bonny Facebook pages,they became terrified..In fact, I chatted with one of the admins, and sent him and all the documents. his response was "this is an eye opener". We are getting there my people.The guy is asking me for more historical books to spread the gospel of Truth.Bro, we are winning now with Truth, Let's create YouTube Channels to challenge the ones created by unscrupulous Jo sea pirates,those savages masquerading as Ijaw.

Alabo7978:

Ode said "Dr baikie's blow"
And do you see how you spelt Opobo by it's original name Opubo? An ijo name, and OKOLOMA the original Bonny name??
You keep Putting your comrades to shame that's why I have a soft spot for your stupidity because it puts you and your agenda including your circus in a tight corner.
well, I love Dr baikie's blow so much on the first screenshot, and on the second screenshot; choke on the ijo lingua and the Ethnic dialect under it as ascertained by every linguist and historian
#ijoid
#okoloma
#opubo
#countingsystem

nku5:
Interesting thread

I was expecting fact-based responses to this technical dismantling of Alagoa's book but so far it's just emotional outbursts and name calling. It leads me to believe that there is little or no defence to these findings

OfoIgbo:


Here we go again with your usual present day, meant to confuse, writeups by modern landgrabbing Jos.
The only ancient attachment you sent in, was the snippet from Ajayi Crowther. Now the obvious question will be this. Who are these Bonny indigenes? What language(s) do they speak?
Now I will obliterate your 419 stuff with references from just Baikie.

The first attachment was from the Appendix of Baikie's book. In it, the numbering system of both Ndigbo, and the Kalabari language also known as Ibani were supplied by King Pepple. You see, he didn't only supply Ibani. He gave both Ibani and Igbo.

The second attachment, also from Baikie, clearly stipulates that Bonny people claim Igbo ancestry.
Even the Ibani people, around this time, claimed to have come from Ngwa in Igboland.

You see, the above puts everything into perspective. You are going nowhere. Ubani people are really from Ndoki and Ngwa stocks in Igboland.

Fejoku:

Below is another excerpt from Major Aurthur Glyn Leonard of the British Army published in 1906. These were his findings on the origin of Bonny people.

OfoIgbo:


Here we go again with your usual present day, meant to confuse, writeups by modern landgrabbing Jos.
The only ancient attachment you sent in, was the snippet from Ajayi Crowther. [/b]Now the obvious question will be this. [b]Who are these Bonny indigenes? What language(s) do they speak?
Now I will obliterate your 419 stuff with references from just Baikie.

The first attachment was from the Appendix of Baikie's book. In it, the numbering system of both Ndigbo, and the Kalabari language also known as Ibani were supplied by King Pepple. You see, he didn't only supply Ibani. He gave both Ibani and Igbo.

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Alabo7978:

if the British picked up the ijos in Togo and brought them to their present region, then who did the Portuguese meet in the 1400s?
I'm curious.

Malawian:


The Aborigenes, who you Ijaw Agents seems to have now strangulated under your Ijaw franchise. You Ijaw have really benefited from Igbophobia in the Niger-Delta and i wonder if it didn't originate from you guys as a pretext to separate those smaller tribes from Igbo protection.

We lived peacefully for centuries with all those tribes and peoples until the British and their Ijaw came to Nigeria. you sef check am.

Alabo7978:

Every circus freak just want to speak English to seem intelligent but they're not.

Alabo7978:

Ofoigbo again compromising...
That's why I said I have a soft spot for you. You have exposed the lies from your circus once more.
First you acknowledged the first snippet from crowther(that is good)
And you asked "WHO ARE THE BONNY INDIGENES AND WHAT LANGUAGE DO THEY SPEAK"
lol, is it that you consume this meth drug more than the others?
I will gladly answer your question on The Bonny indegenes and the language they speak with my first attachment which your friend Ekealterego drugfully gave me

Look at the Excerpt you sent, you didn't obliterate me with it, you obliterated your circus, LMAO. Let me also call Ezecanada who was calling God and I told him God doesn't side with liars and criminals.
Now look at the excerpt YOU YOURSELF SENT, look at the bracketed languages and the similarities.... Don't you see "Oru"(ijo) in the far right? Don't YOU know another name for ijo is Oru(known by the Europeans) LMAO
Now look at the 3rd screenshot I sent you, doesn't it tally with baikie's Language collection??
God hasn't even started exposing you, this is meth exposing before God himself will do the final exposure.

OfoIgbo:


Nnaa your illiteracy knows no bounds. The bit you bracketed was just a comparison of various languages, showing how related they are to the Igbo language. It has nothing to do with the languages spoken in Ubani. The first attachment contains a snippet in the same book by Dr. Baikie, alleging that there are commonalities among those languages and Igbo. So stop making a fool of yourself in this regard.

I have resent that attachment again, please spend a few seconds to read the message inbetween the tables. You will notice that the second table, contains the numbering system of both Igbo and Ibani, both of which were supplied the the Igbo ex-king of Ubani, King Pepple.

The whole thread has really been about who the original Bonny people are. And it has been severally proven, from documents put together by neutral observers, that the original founders of Ubani were Igbos. You cannot destroy this point. Alagoa and Fombo cannot destroy this point.

Malawian:

Read what you just posted. Your language is not even Niger-Congo, meaning your language is the only unrelated language in all of the Niger-Delta. Does that not tell you that you are aliens in that place?

horsepower102:


You can trace all these weaknesses to the civil war and the effects that it had on Igbos afterwards.

It was a war that we never planned and the envious minorities around us were for the first time given power over us.

Alabo7978:

Ode said "Dr baikie's blow"
And do you see how you spelt Opobo by it's original name Opubo? An ijo name, and OKOLOMA the original Bonny name??
You keep Putting your comrades to shame that's why I have a soft spot for your stupidity because it puts you and your agenda including your circus in a tight corner.
well, I love Dr baikie's blow so much on the first screenshot, and on the second screenshot; choke on the ijo lingua and the Ethnic dialect under it as ascertained by every linguist and historian
#ijoid
#okoloma
#opubo
#countingsystem

Alabo7978:

Ofoigbo again compromising...
That's why I said I have a soft spot for you. You have exposed the lies from your circus once more.
First you acknowledged the first snippet from crowther(that is good)
And you asked "WHO ARE THE BONNY INDIGENES AND WHAT LANGUAGE DO THEY SPEAK"
lol, is it that you consume this meth drug more than the others?
I will gladly answer your question on The Bonny indegenes and the language they speak with my first attachment which your friend Ekealterego drugfully gave me

Look at the Excerpt you sent, you didn't obliterate me with it, you obliterated your circus, LMAO. Let me also call Ezecanada who was calling God and I told him God doesn't side with liars and criminals.
Now look at the excerpt YOU YOURSELF SENT, look at the bracketed languages and the similarities.... Don't you see "Oru"(ijo) in the far right? Don't YOU know another name for ijo is Oru(known by the Europeans) LMAO
Now look at the 3rd screenshot I sent you, doesn't it tally with baikie's Language collection??
God hasn't even started exposing you, this is meth exposing before God himself will do the final exposure.

horsepower102:


You can trace all these weaknesses to the civil war and the effects that it had on Igbos afterwards.

It was a war that we never planned and the envious minorities around us were for the first time given power over us.

BKayy:

Oru was never and will never be Ijaw.

The question that should be asked concerning the Comparison of Words Baikie got from Isuama, Oru and Nembe Districts and the one he got from Pepple is not whether Bonny is Igbo but how Igbo Nembe is

SlayerForever has been saying this, Nnamdi Kanu has been hammering on it but now it is becoming obvious to the blind. Judging from the attack on Nembe Palace by the Youths and the language spoken in the Video with the report from Baikie, One need to ask himself "when Nembe started being Ijaw"

Baikie stated that "Throughout the district of Nembe, Oru and Bonny all spoke but one language"
From his report and the words he got from Pepple, that is three (Nembe, Oru and Isuama) are what he saw while that of Bonny was what he got from Pepple in a haste , one will notice that Nembe and Oru spoke in FULL IGBO.
The question is where are the words spoken today in Bonny there?
The answer is still from Baikie's book. Look at the part he described the condition he met Pepple. His health and otherwise.

Having said that, I will like to clarify the "idol" part where he recorded "ọwụ" for Nembe and Oru but juju for Bonny and Isuama.
The ọwụ he recorded for Nembe and Oru is still Igbo (Aboh dialect) for charm. Northern Igbo call it "ọgwụ"

The "orisa" part is obvious Igbo as recorded in the book. The people of Aboh call God "Orisa".
Most of Northern Igboland maintain the word "Olisa" for God. That's why we have the name NwaOlisa, Olisa etc.

Ekealterego, Ofoigbo and Igboid , are you guys seeing undeniable facts in SlayerForever and MNK's ascertion in the Igboness of Nembe and Parts of Bayelsa respectively?

Ekealterego:


The reason why I don't want to go too deep into that one is that a whole lot changed in those areas since the past 100 years and the analysis can only be best done by UNBIASED erudite historians.

But this brings my mind to Dr. Horton in 1860s... Definitely Bonny didn't change.

However, Okirika did change linguistically or at least evolved and fused into something different because those areas are new settlements.

See this reason why I didn't dig out Horton because it will lead us down a different rabbit hole. Let's stick to Bonny.

Just to show you a snippet of Horton.

Read this excerpt. 1864-6

BKayy:

True, Language is dynamic but one question Southerners should be asking themselves is "who exactly are these modern Ijaw people"
Both what you posted and reports from Baikie clearly states that Oru and Nembe are Igbo speaking areas and are still today. Nembe's own only comes out when dispute arises.

Ekealterego:

This is a whole big topic that will lead to so many different rabbit holes.

You can still see the metamorphosis of the Oru and acculturalisation or switch till today.
Oru are not technically split between from the Igbos into forming "Ijoid" groups..
From Ukwani (Aboh), Egbema, Ndoni, Ogbaru, Oguta and many of the places in around those areas are the home base of the ancient Orus...
The one who ventured down the Orashi and the Niger River towards the Atlantic shaped the modern Bayelsa and many other places.

For the ones still experiencing the metamorphosis, you can see it in Biseni people. Till today, most Biseni people, their great great father and surnames are 100% Igbos with some aspect of their culture but politically, they are either independent or politically a different group. Many didn't lose their names or culture, but they lost or evolved their language.

I don't know exactly when the sea pirates left their boats to influence these areas which they "infested" but something culturally significant was clearly evolving.

This is what the Ijos hang on or use to intimidate these minorities into submission because they have been able to get a collection of Igboid, Edoid and Ibibiod people.

If for instance they want to brainwash Abua/Odual and Andoni people, they will send representatives from Ogbia/Kugbo and send them in the name of "Ijaws".

BKayy:

Oru was never and will never be Ijaw.

The question that should be asked concerning the Comparison of Words Baikie got from Isuama, Oru and Nembe Districts and the one he got from Pepple is not whether Bonny is Igbo but how Igbo Nembe is

SlayerForever has been saying this, Nnamdi Kanu has been hammering on it but now it is becoming obvious to the blind. Judging from the attack on Nembe Palace by the Youths and the language spoken in the Video with the report from Baikie, One need to ask himself "when Nembe started being Ijaw"

Baikie stated that "Throughout the district of Nembe, Oru and Bonny all spoke but one language"
From his report and the words he got from Pepple, that is three (Nembe, Oru and Isuama) are what he saw while that of Bonny was what he got from Pepple in a haste , one will notice that Nembe and Oru spoke in FULL IGBO.
The question is where are the words spoken today in Bonny there?
The answer is still from Baikie's book. Look at the part he described the condition he met Pepple. His health and otherwise.

Having said that, I will like to clarify the "idol" part where he recorded "ọwụ" for Nembe and Oru but juju for Bonny and Isuama.
The ọwụ he recorded for Nembe and Oru is still Igbo (Aboh dialect) for charm. Northern Igbo call it "ọgwụ"

The "orisa" part is obvious Igbo as recorded in the book. The people of Aboh call God "Orisa".
Most of Northern Igboland maintain the word "Olisa" for God. That's why we have the name NwaOlisa, Olisa etc.

Ekealterego, Ofoigbo and Igboid , are you guys seeing undeniable facts in SlayerForever and MNK's ascertion in the Igboness of Nembe and Parts of Bayelsa respectively?

SlayerForever:



Nembe, Brass, Kalabari (which has no meaning in Ijaw!) are very different from Ijaw people!

BKayy:

They don't even speak the same language.

Have you noticed that all the opposition from the Jo men have always been based on how different a part of Igbo like Bonny is from the rest or another part of Igbo.
They have never compared relationships between them and the places. By relationships, I mean with actual Jo men or Ijaw or whatever they call themselves these days.

BKayy:

True, Language is dynamic but one question Southerners should be asking themselves is "who exactly are these modern Ijaw people"
Both what you posted and reports from Baikie clearly states that Oru and Nembe are Igbo speaking areas and are still today. Nembe's own only comes out when dispute arises.