BKayy:

You know it is undeniable. Jo men weren't existing in Southern Nigeria until late 19th century.

Eh en?

BKayy:

How I wish you people imposed yourselves on those places to begin with.

Technically speaking, you people are not exerting any political right on any of those places. The last you people tried to make a decision there was resisted by Opobo, and they later disgraced you lots at the supreme Court.

So, I hope you understand that when the need rises, Ndigbo has more to gain in physical confrontation than Court arguments.

Yes I understand

JANK23H:


Erm....by the way,with all these outstanding findings from Crow and Co.When are you approaching the International court of whatever for settlement?

We don't have to first approach them. We just claim our territory. If you yarn shit, we just kill you guys off, and approach the ICC to declare you guys aggressive landgrabbers, with enough evidence to sink the Titanic.

Your down syndrome boyfriend Alabo7978 had better make sure not to be anywhere around Ubani at the appointed time, or we de-dick him and hang his solitary ball at the IbiniUkpabi entrance, as the Jo-men attornment for not worshipping their Aro gods for quite a while now

OfoIgbo:


We don't have to first approach them. We just claim our territory. If you yarn shit, we just kill you guys off, and approach the ICC to declare you guys aggressive landgrabbers, with enough evidence to sink the Titanic.

Your down syndrome boyfriend Alabo7978 had better make sure not to be anywhere around Ubani at the appointed time, or we de-dick him and hang his solitary ball at the IbiniUkpabi entrance, as the Jo-men attornment for not worshipping their Aro gods for quite a while now

Archived.

OfoIgbo

We will remember it

JANK23H:

abegi shift......

Like you would say,show us excerpts from a neutral source,from the 15th century to 18th century

All these Igbo doctored work dey pain my eye.

If make me vex, I'll bring out Alagoa's books now.

....What do you mean by doctored? How is Oru Igbo recent people?

....ORUmba, people, Oru East and West in Imo state and Ogba-ORU, Afor Oru who are all known since the beginning of Igbo civilisation and history are no longer Igbos?


....Go to google map and put Oru, whether they won't take you to Igbo land. You see all your priestest goddess who worship today were from Oru-Igbo people.

....They exported it all over the riverine areas in Niger-Delta.

JANK23H:

Na today you dey hear am?

Some days Nembe,Okrika and Kalabari are Igbos,and some days they are Ijos.

Watch how they will look for ways to divorce Oru from Ijo.

These guys have issues I swear.I told you they constantly shift their arguments.

You never SheeShomtin.

....There might be Ijawnised Oru today like Biseni, who still kept their Igbo surnames
.......However, ancient Oru are Igbos.

There are too many studies.

.....This talk is even needless, you must be trolling at this point.

Vintagepipes:


....There might be Ijawnised Oru today like Biseni, who still kept their Igbo surnames
.......However, ancient Oru are Igbos.

There are too many studies.

.....This talk is even needless, you must be trolling at this point.

Take Igbo doctored nonsense off my mention.

Biseni is Igbo now too?Oporopo!


Aren't you going to the International court again.The other one said you are going to attack physically instead.

Confused and desperate people.

Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos. Ibos spoken by a great number of tribes does not & never will make them ibo. It is only circumstantial that ibos are spoken, often times, adopted by these tribes. Sometimes, as a second language. The large number of ibos in the Niger delta gives ibos undue advantage and commanding influence over tribes with smaller numbers.

JANK23H
Alabo7978
Oyatz
Anonymous15

Putindbutt:
Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos.

JANK23H
Alabo7879
Oyatz

I know Binaowei,that's what they hold on to.I stated it severally on this platform that a lot of minority tribes were and still are classified as Igbos.I have been called Igbo on so many occasions.Some European writers made alot of these mistakes,and these people are holding on to it.

Until they they get to the ground and amongst the people before they realize their folly.

Putindbutt:
Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos.

JANK23H
Alabo7879
Oyatz

From evidences, including the snippets that is acknowledged by Alabo7978 which featured the Nembe dialect Baikie met when he toured Nigeria. The dialect he later compared with Isuama dialect. The evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that Nembe indigenes then spoke in Igbo.

By the way, which minority are you talking about?
Are you talking about the same Minorities that are currently committing Cultural Genocide on the people of Bonny?
The same minority that changed the name of someone's ancestor from Pepple to Perekule?
The same Minority that once challenged the legal existence of Opobo?
The same minority that is blackmailing the indigenes of Bonny, Opobo and Bom (New Calabar) by attaching a stigma to their Igbo heritage?

The minority that have conditioned the indigenes of Nembe to second fiddle and is now advocating to totally eradicate the origins and culture of Bonny people?

The minority that is doing this below?

Bkayyy:

From evidences, including the snippets that is acknowledged by Alabo7978 which featured the Nembe dialect Baikie met when he toured Nigeria. The dialect he later compared with Isuama dialect. The evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that Nembe indigenes then spoke in Igbo.

By the way, which minority are you talking about?
Are you talking about the same Minorities that are currently committing Cultural Genocide on the people of Bonny?
The same minority that changed the name of someone's ancestor from Pepple to Perekule?
The same Minority that once challenged the legal existence of Opobo?
The same minority that is blackmailing the indigenes of Bonny, Opobo and Bom (New Calabar) by attaching a stigma to their Igbo heritage?

The minority that have conditioned the indigenes of Nembe to second fiddle and is now advocating to totally eradicate the origins and culture of Bonny people?

The minority that is doing this below?

Guy I've told you to go and rest.

Indigenes of Nembe.

Alabo7879 Dem say you no be Indigene o.Better find another village o.

JANK23H:

Take Igbo doctored nonsense off my mention.

Biseni is Igbo now too?Oporopo!


Aren't you going to the International court again.The other one said you are going to attack physically instead.

Confused and desperate people.

.......So, Oxford University is doctored

...........So Chukwudi now owns Google map?

.......Jell-Bahlsen is now an Igbo woman?

...........Put the drink down Bro........

JANK23H:

Guy I've told you to go and rest.

Indigenes of Nembe.

Alabo7879 Dem say you no be Indigene o.Better find another village o.

You people might have recorded a huge success in Nembe but I assure you that Bonny would not just be tough nut to crack but an impossibility for you pirates.
Do you know why?
Because their history says so.

BTW, Ofoigbo, Ekealterego and SlayerForever forever look at number 15 of their cultural genocide template, you'll see what contemporary Bonny Indigenes call house. They call it Ụlọ like other Igbo people but here, the pirates wants us to believe that their mother tongue says Wari.

Putindbutt:
Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos. Ibos spoken by a great number of tribes does not & never will make them ibo. It is only circumstantial that ibos are spoken, often times, adopted by these tribes. Sometimes, as a second language. The large number of ibos in the Niger delta gives ibos undue advantage and commanding influence over tribes with smaller numbers.

JANK23H
Alabo7879
Oyatz

......Bro, I hope you are not vision impaired.

...... I can clearly see Itu, Ekunakuna and they were not acknowledged as Igbos

.......and they are minorities living close to the Igbos.

.......I hope it's not what I am thinking.

JANK23H:

I know Binaowei,that's what they hold on to.I stated it severally on this platform that a lot of minority tribes were and still are classified as Igbos.I have been called Igbo on so many occasions.Some European writers made alot of these mistakes,and these people are holding on to it.

Until they they get to the ground and amongst the people before they realize their folly.

It is a shame, moreso, a big fraud to think such a thing among the minorities who clearly have their own histories. This fraud did not start with the modern generation of ibos but it was the manual that was handed to them by the whites.
Have you noticed that ibos would label you ibo just because you bear an ibo name or remotely have a similar dialect as any of the ibo dialects.

JANK23H:

I know Binaowei,that's what they hold on to.I stated it severally on this platform that a lot of minority tribes were and still are classified as Igbos.I have been called Igbo on so many occasions.Some European writers made alot of these mistakes,and these people are holding on to it.

Until they they get to the ground and amongst the people before they realize their folly.

Even in 2021, many Nigerians wrongly classify many tribes as belonging to the nearest large tribe.


On the eve of the 2011 election, I was discussing about the election with some of my co-workers in Your State, I was surprised that so many (educated) Yobe people wrongly assumed that Goodluck Jonathan is an Igbo man.
I took time to educate them that Jonathan is an Ijaw man and the Ijaws aren't parts of the Igbo ethnic group.

Bkayyy:

You people might have recorded a huge success in Nembe but I assure you that


Bonny would not just be tough nut to crack but an impossibility for you pirates.
Do you know why?
Because their history says so.

BTW, Ofoigbo, Ekealterego and SlayerForever forever look at number 15 of their cultural genocide template, you'll see what contemporary Bonny Indigenes call house. They call it Ụlọ like other Igbo people but here, the pirates wants us to believe that their mother tongue says Wari.

Wherever the Igbo consciousness is alive it is impossible to surpress. Look at Nembe for instance, it is an Ijaw town by and large. But the Igbo there keeps sticking out. Despite all revisionism Igbo refuses to go away.

All these people doubting that Igbo is spoken in Nembe till today, I will share videos tomorrow.

oyatz:


Even in 2021, many Nigerians wrongly classify many tribes as belonging to the nearest large tribe.


On the eve of the 2011 election, I was discussing about the election with some of my co-workers in Your State, I was surprised that so many (educated) Yobe people wrongly assumed that Goodluck Jonathan is an Igbo man.
I took time to educate them that Jonathan is an Ijaw man and the Ijaws aren't parts of the Igbo ethnic group.

....Many Igbos also mistook GEJ to be an Ijaw man

.....but he does not speak Ijaw, Izon or Ijoid.

.........He speaks Ogbia as his native language.


The guys here accurately described the people.

....He even described an event that happened and called specific names.

Bkayyy:

From evidences, including the snippets that is acknowledged by Alabo7978 which featured the Nembe dialect Baikie met when he toured Nigeria. The dialect he later compared with Isuama dialect. The evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that Nembe indigenes then spoke in Igbo.

By the way, which minority are you talking about?
Are you talking about the same Minorities that are currently committing Cultural Genocide on the people of Bonny?
The same minority that changed the name of someone's ancestor from Pepple to Perekule?
The same Minority that once challenged the legal existence of Opobo?
The same minority that is blackmailing the indigenes of Bonny, Opobo and Bom (New Calabar) by attaching a stigma to their Igbo heritage?

The minority that have conditioned the indigenes of Nembe to second fiddle and is now advocating to totally eradicate the origins and culture of Bonny people?

The minority that is doing this below?

Nembe is now the new grab.
The eyes of land grabbers are now fully shifted on Nembe.

By the time una grab all tribes of Niger delta, una body go rest. It was not a crime that the forefathers of the minorities learned ibo language for trading purposes and name their children after ibo as friendly gestures, only if they knew that ibos would operate a manual decades down the line. But i promise you, una don fail.

Putindbutt:

It is a shame, moreso, a big fraud to think such a thing among the minorities who clearly have their own histories. This fraud did not start with the modern generation of ibos but it was the manual that was handed to them by the whites.
Have you noticed that ibos would label you ibo just because you bear an ibo name or remotely have a similar dialect as any of the ibo dialects.

A fraud? But ever since the war ended, you people have been working earnestly to wipe the history and languages of these Igbo towns.
You have succeeded to a great extent in Nembe and other Oru villages, now your eyes is set at Bonny, Bom and Okirika.

If they are distinct from Ndigbo and related to you, why are you committing cultural genocide on them?
Why are you stigmatising their language and heritage?

Now their kins have come to their rescue by presenting superior evidence on their heritage and language so that they won't be ashamed to say outside what they do their rooms due to the fear of being tagged slaves by those holding most political offices in the states they were allocated to and you have problems with it.

What do you have against Bonny people speaking the language they do with their mother at Organisations?
What do you have against Bonny people telling their own history?

oyatz:


Even in 2021, many Nigerians wrongly classify many tribes as belonging to the nearest large tribe.


On the eve of the 2011 election, I was discussing about the election with some of my co-workers in Your State, I was surprised that so many (educated) Yobe people wrongly assumed that Goodluck Jonathan is an Igbo man.
I took time to educate them that Jonathan is an Ijaw man and the Ijaws aren't parts of the Igbo ethnic group.

It quite sad.Unfortunately,we on this divide do same to Northerners.

We classify all of them as Hausa/Fulani,when there are so many distinct ethnic groups in the North.

The perception of Jonathan as an Igbo man and his soft spot for Igbos caused him alot as president.

Putindbutt:

It is a shame, moreso, a big fraud to think such a thing among the minorities who clearly have their own histories. This fraud did not start with the modern generation of ibos but it was the manual that was handed to them by the whites.
Have you noticed that ibos would label you ibo just because you bear an ibo name or remotely have a similar dialect as any of the ibo dialects.

The British brought about the confusion by grouping together certain tribes they think should belong to one ethnic group based on the similarities the European observed without interviewing the native peoples if they consider each other as one ethnic group.

The large ethnic groups like the Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo and Kanuri are actually fusions of several smaller similar tribes.

Some tribes accept the ethnic tags while some reject it. E.g After 1960, the Isoko have persistently made it clear that they don't belong to the Urhobo ethnic group.

Putindbutt:

Nembe is now the new grab.
The eyes of land grabbers are now fully shifted on Nembe.

By the time una grab all tribes of Niger delta, una body go rest. It was not a crime that the forefathers of the minorities learned ibo language for trading purposes and name their children after ibo as friendly gestures, only if they knew that ibos would operate a manual decades down the line. But i promise you, una don fail.

This is the blackmail you people want to use to stigmatise the language a group speak with their own parents.
You have designed it in such a way that they can't boldly answer the name their parents call them outside of their house.

But I assure you, Bonny, Bom and Okirika will be the end of your schemes. They are born warriors and will resist your advances to the end. Bad news for you pirates, their kins have come to their rescue.

Vintagepipes:


......Bro, I hope you are not vision impaired.

...... I can clearly see Itu, Ekunakuna and they were not acknowledged as Igbos

.......and they are minorities living close to the Igbos.

.......I hope it's not what I am thinking.

See as e heavy for your mouth. Just 2 out of a lot?
Need i remind you that efik & the Calabar neighbors sold ibos off as slaves. So, there is a clear distinction in that regard.

SlayerForever:



Wherever the Igbo consciousness is alive it is impossible to surpress. Look at Nembe for instance, it is an Ijaw town by and large. But the Igbo there keeps sticking out. Despite all revisionism Igbo refuses to go away.

All these people doubting that Igbo is spoken in Nembe till today, I will share videos tomorrow.

Those are the remaining warriors of Nembe holding unto their indigenous language despite the stigma from Jo men pirates.
They are worth celebrating.

Putindbutt:

It is a shame, moreso, a big fraud to think such a thing among the minorities who clearly have their own histories. This fraud did not start with the modern generation of ibos but it was the manual that was handed to them by the whites.
Have you noticed that ibos would label you ibo just because you bear an ibo name or remotely have a similar dialect as any of the ibo dialects.

Yes I have.

Infact they've gone as far as the SW to claim areas with seeming Igbo names as having Igbo connection.

The British really whittled our (Ijos) powers and influence.Just like they did to the Benin empire. They were more disposed to the Igbos and elevated them.If only they knew Nigeria gave them more than they had.

Vintagepipes:

.......So, Oxford University is doctored

...........So Chukwudi now owns Google map?

.......Jell-Bahlsen is now an Igbo woman?

...........Put the drink down Bro........

That book chapter has Igbo editors Oga.Don't think we are all novices here.

JANK23H:

It quite sad.Unfortunately,we on this divide do same to Northerners.

We classify all of them as Hausa/Fulani,when there are so many distinct ethnic groups in the North.

The perception of Jonathan as an Igbo man and his soft spot for Igbos caused him alot as president.

q

Actually, the classification as done by the British can be correct IF we want it to stand and it can be wrong if we object to it. Both sides have valid points because;


Most Tribes in Southern Nigeria are actually related.

Yoruba, Bini, Urhobos, Esan, Ijaw, Igbo, Igala, Itsekiri overlap to varying degrees and their languages support this athropological fact.

We evolve into different peoples by;

1) Absorbing waves of immigrants over time.

2) Living separately in different places over time e.g the Indigenes of Atakpame, Togo are Yoruba people often called Anago/Ife tribes in Togo. A typical Yoruba man from Osun State can hear about 80% of the dialect they now speak.

Putindbutt:
Take a look at the snippet below, what do you discover?

The whites had done a great disservice to the minority tribes of the Niger delta by classifying a lot of the tribes as ibo. I would be less harsh on the whites for the fact that they lacked the understanding of the unique dialectical and geographical distribution of many tribes of the Niger delta, thereby wrongfully lumping together a lot as being ibos.
Ibos started began leaving the hinterland through slavery and then after, heavy migration to settle among many tribes of the Niger delta. By their huge population concentration, ibos could easily submerged, overwhelm & greatly influence their host minorities. Little wonder, many of their surrounding neighbors with whom they share boundaries are heavily influenced and most times, acculturated.

The submission of the author in No72 is a great injustice against the minorities who clearly have their own distinct identities different from the ibos. Ibos spoken by a great number of tribes does not & never will make them ibo. It is only circumstantial that ibos are spoken, often times, adopted by these tribes. Sometimes, as a second language. The large number of ibos in the Niger delta gives ibos undue advantage and commanding influence over tribes with smaller numbers.

JANK23H
Alabo7879
Oyatz

These European historians were very meticulous in dealing with details its mind blowing. I know we like to counter many works carried out by local historians for bias , and , this includes the work of the treacherous Alagoa. But , are you aware in the book , Lower Niger and its Tribes by Leonard Glynn , Olu/ Oru were documented as a completely separate group from Ijaw?

Henceforth, you can't pick and chose whichever historians account that supports your arguments and reject the rest....remember nobi ogogoro joint we dey. Point being, in the beginning of European exploration , Ijaw nowhere in the site and nobody knew them but the Oru people were clearly identified as a separate group.

Bkayyy:

This is the blackmail you people want to use to stigmatise the language a group speak with their own parents.
You have designed it in such a way that they can't boldly answer the name their parents call them outside of their house.

But I assure you, Bonny, Bom and Okirika will be the end of your schemes. They are born warriors and will resist your advances to the end. Bad news for you pirates, their kins have come to their rescue.

Is there anything you have ever won?. Name just one, i dare you.

Bkayyy:

Those are the remaining warriors of Nembe holding unto their indigenous language despite the stigma from Jo men pirates.
They are worth celebrating.

When there is problem and emotions are high these people's Igbo language will come out.

Well, till tomorrow.

Putindbutt:

See as e heavy for your mouth. Just 2 out of a lot?
Need i remind you that efik & the Calabar neighbors sold ibos off as slaves. So, there is a clear distinction in that regard.

.......The emphasis was to show Nembe and not the rest...

........it was zoomed. Look at the numbering

....When you people argue this way, it makes you guys look unintelligent...

........Look at the numbers before it.