I ask this question cos it is bewildering and quite shocking to see the reactions of a lot of Nigerians whenever the question of an Igbo presidency is brought up.

Bear in mind that historically, Igbos have voted for a Yoruba man for presidency (Obasanjo in '99 & '03), an Ijaw man (GEJ in '11) as well as twice for core Fulani men (Yar'adua and Atiku). Therefore, any accusations of hate of other tribes by Igbos is laughable and obviously untrue.

Furthermore, Igbos can arguably be said to be the most integrated ethnic group in Nigeria since there's no LGA or Town in the country where you won't find a sizable number Igbo people most likely engaging in business, paying taxes and adding their quota to the economic and social development of the state.

Now I know the issue of the 1966 coup might come up but remember that this was a military affair which cannot be blamed on the average Igbo man and that the coup plotters weren't solely of Igbo origin. Also, those involved in the coup have written several books as to the reason why it was carried out (e.g. Why We Struck by Col. Ademoyega) hence, ruling out any idea that it was an ethnic cleansing.

Finally, it is on record that an Igbo officer was the one who foiled the coup and arrested the officers involved (even though he could have handled it much better by meting out justice asap). Also, if the 1966 coup were to be the reason for the irrational distrust, haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

Last thing I can think of is that they are afraid that an Igbo president will push for referendum to be reinserted into the constitution. Question is how is that a negative thing? Remember that the right to self determination is something that every progressive country should have and in a democracy, all discussions no matter how sensitive must be allowed as that is how a democracy matures - it is tested continuously.

EDIT: Issues of being boastful and denigrating to other Nigerians in towns and cities where Igbos conduct their businesses have come up. While I agree that the average Igbo man's big ego is a weakness that can cause him to be disliked by others, I do not believe it is a cogent enough reason to perpetually refuse to give them a chance at steering the affairs of a country where they form one of the major ethnic groups.


So I'm asking directly - If you're one of those vehemently opposing the idea of an Igbo president, can you give a good/cogent reason for this decision?

Politics in Nigeria is a 'winner takes all' affair. The igbos as astute in marketing as they are, don’t know how to market themselves in politics, that’s why. You can either be President or you can choose to keep fighting for a phantom country, but u can’t have both! "The Yoruba are snakes and come from a brown roof republic", "the Hausas are murderers", "the Middle-belters are Fulani enablers", "the South-South are living in Biafraland". You’ll always stand alone when ure a know it all, that’s a fact! If the Igbo want support from the rest of the country, let them build bridges and not cheer as MNK burns them to the ground.

Because they are scared

KillIgbohoN0W:
Because they are scared

Scared of what exactly?

TheRealestGuy:


Scared of what exactly?

Lest Nwafors turn Nigeria to our property like we have turned Lagos.

They want presidency through emotional blackmail

Igbos by default are not political leader and administrator material. People easily overwhelmed with emotions are not to be trusted with power.

KillIgbohoN0W:


Lest Nwafors turn Nigeria to our property like we have turned Lagos.

This is not the thread for useless chest beating please.

Thanks.

Hmmm! That's a question I can't answer properly, but all I know is this,we Igbos don't know how to play national politics well.Moreover we are not even united in one accord on the issue.Ordinary Ohanaeze Ndigbo presidency, and we were already tearing ourselves apart,forming two opposing factions in the sociocultural group.
If Biafra should come,is that how the nation would be ruled?
Enugu man against Anambra man,Anambra against Abia,Abia against Imo.
But one thing is sure,if Biafra should come, Ebonyi would be heavily marginalised because other Igbo subgroups see them as second class.

SlyDev:
Igbos by default are not political leader and administrator material. People easily overwhelmed with emotions are not to be trusted with power.

By default?

Who measures the indices for this your default?

I dare say that Zik of Africa was one of the best political leaders and admistrators Nigeria ever had.

As a matter of fact, it was his nationalistic outlook and idealist principles that made him lose to other more tribalistic leaders like Awo and Ahmadu Bello in the scheme of things at the time.

Your reason is not only awkward but a figment of your imagination.

This WEEK, Good 5 days Monday to Friday is Sit-at-Home in the South East.

We dont want that to happen at the national using the security architecture to enforce a federal Sit@Home policy.

THIS IS NOW OLD AND OUT-DATED AFONJA PROPAGANDA.



THE PRESIDENCY OF 2023, CAN ONLY COME FROM THE SE REGION, OTHERWISE GOOD BYE NIGERIA.

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TheRealestGuy:


This is not the thread for useless chest beating please.

Thanks.

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Afonja don run in the face of truth.

Nwafors will own Nigeria with just 4 years of Presidency unlike Afonjas that have spent 12 years there with nothing to show for it except being slaves to Fulani Bororo.

The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.

Onyiiobi7735:
Hmmm! That's a question I can't answer properly, but all I know is this,we Igbos don't know how to play national politics well.Moreover we are not even united in one accord on the issue.Ordinary Ohanaeze Ndigbo presidency, and we were already tearing ourselves apart,forming two opposing factions in the sociocultural group.
If Biafra should come,is that how the nation would be ruled?
Enugu man against Anambra man,Anambra against Abia,Abia against Imo.
But one thing is sure,if Biafra should come, Ebonyi would be heavily marginalised because other Igbo subgroups see them as second class.

What you are referring to is simply competitiveness.

Igbos are known to be very competitive and while this may seem as a weakness, it is actually a strength because it ensures that only the best come out on top.

As for your assertions on Ebonyi, it is mere conjecture simply because if you take a stroll to every state in the SE, we have people from Ebonyi living and working and doing business peacefully.

Eboes did not vote a Yoruba ,at any time

Spare that story for the gods.

You contested against Obasanjo and were defeated.

So why don't you contest against Tinubu or whoever and defeat them.

If you are successful in clinching the tickets of PDP AND APC then see if Nigerians will vote for you

Do not make false comparisons

You MUST COMPETE AT THE PARTY LEVEL and clinch tickets there . Do not expect any party to gift you their candidacy because you are Eboe

Entitled propaganda using every means to get what you want will not work via cheap blackmail.

hammer567:
THIS IS NOW OLD AND OUT-DATED AFONJA PROPAGANDA.



THE PRESIDENCY OF 2023, CAN ONLY COME FROM THE SE REGION, OTHERWISE GODD BYE NIGERIA.

Randerl:
This WEEK, Good 5 days Monday to Friday is Sit-at-Home in the South East.

We dont want that to happen at the national using the security architecture to enforce a federal Sit@Home policy.

We all know that IPOB does not represent Igbos.

The only group that can be said to represent Igbos to an extent at the national level is Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

So your reason is comical at best.

aribisala0:
Eboes did not vote a Yoruba ,at any time

Spare that story for the gods.

You contested against Obasanjo and were defeated.

So why don't you contest against Tinubu or whoever and defeat them.

If you are successful in clinching the tickets of PDP AND APC then see if Nigerians will vote for you

Do not make false comparisons

You MUST COMPETE AT THE PARTY LEVEL and clinch tickets there . Do not expect any party to gift you their candidacy because you are Eboe

Is it the parties primary elections that make any one president? It is on record that Igbos voted for OBJ massively on both ocassions even when Ojukwu was a contestant under another party in 2003.

Please think before you comment.

Randerl:
Entitled propaganda using every means to get what you did not work for via cheap blackmail.

ONE THING I WILL COMMEND YORUBA MEN, IS THEIR OBSESSSION AND COMMITMENT TO CONTINUED OBSESSION OVER THE IGBO RACE.


THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, 2023 BELONGS TO THE IGBO AND WE WILL NOT WAIT FOR OSINBANJO TO CONCLUDE VP AND ENTER PRESIDENCY.



YORUBA WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GOVERN NIGERIA IN ONE PEACE.



WHICHEVER WAY YOU DO THE MATHS, YORUBA CANNOT RULE NIGERIA IN 2023, BE IT OSINBANJO OR TINUBU.

IPOB represents the SE. IPOB IS THE PROPAGANDA POLICY ARM OF THE SE REGION.

TheRealestGuy:


We all know that IPOB does not represent Igbos.

The only group that can be said to represent Igbos to an extent at the national level is Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

So your reason is comical at best.

TheRealestGuy:
I ask this question cos it is bewildering and quite shocking to see the reactions of a lot of Nigerians whenever the question of an Igbo presidency is brought up.

Bear in mind that historically, Igbos have voted for a Yoruba man for presidency (Obasanjo in '99 & '03), an Ijaw man (GEJ in '11) as well as twice for core Fulani men (Yar'adua and Atiku). Therefore, any accusations of hate of other tribes by Igbos is laughable and obviously untrue.

Furthermore, Igbos can arguably be said to be the most integrated ethnic group in Nigeria since there's no LGA or Town in the country where you won't find a sizable number Igbo people most likely engaging in business, paying taxes and adding their quota to the economic and social development of the state.

Now I know the issue of the 1966 coup might come up but remember that this was a military affair which cannot be blamed on the average Igbo man and that the coup plotters weren't solely of Igbo origin. Also, those involved in the coup have written several books as to the reason why it was carried out (e.g. Why We Struck by Col. Ademoyega) hence, ruling out any idea that it was an ethnic cleansing.

Finally, it is on record that an Igbo officer was the one who foiled the coup and arrested the officers involved (even though he could have handled it much better by meting out justice asap). Also, if the 1966 coup were to be the reason for the irrational distrust, haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

Last thing I can think of is that they are afraid that an Igbo president will push for referendum to be reinserted into the constitution. Question is how is that a negative thing? Remember that the right to self determination is something that every progressive country should have and in a democracy, all discussions no matter how sensitive must be allowed as that is how a democracy matures - it is tested continuously.

So I'm asking directly - If you're one of those vehemently opposing the idea of an Igbo president, can you give a good/cogent reason for this decision?

igbos are economic Nigerians been in every nook of Nigeria is economic and not for nation building .even within the nook they stay within there enclave .they faslely assume they are the smartest (crime )Nigerians and abuse hospitality.

TheRealestGuy:


By default?

Who measures the indices for this your default?

I dare say that Zik of Africa was one of the best political leaders and admistrators Nigeria ever had.

As a matter of fact, it was his nationalistic outlook and idealist principles that made him lose to other more tribalistic leaders like Awo and Ahmadu Bello in the scheme of things at the time.

Your reason is not only awkward but a figment of your imagination.

Emotional tantrum as usual, Zik is one of the reason also

olisaEze:
Politics in Nigeria is a 'winner takes all' affair. The igbos as astute in marketing as they are, don’t know how to market themselves in politics, that’s why. You can either be President or you can choose to keep fighting for a phantom country, but u can’t have both! "The Yoruba are snakes and come from a brown roof republic", "the Hausas are murderers", "the Middle-belters are Fulani enablers", "the South-South are living in Biafraland". You’ll always stand alone when ure a know it all, that’s a fact! If the Igbo want support from the rest of the country, let them build bridges and not cheer as MNK burns them to the ground.

Your comments in quotes are simply banter that we all do to each other.

Similar to "Igbo man fit sell him family or use him mama for rituals, dem too like money". These banks should not form basis of treating them like second class citizens and keeping them away from the presidency perpetually.

The average hausa-fualni has been killing Igbos and other southerners since the 1950s for one flimsy reason or another. This did not make Igbos to not vote Yar'adua or hate Atiku.

About Igbos not "knowing how to market themselves in politics" the thing is that the average Igbo man does not conform to herd thinking and tries to be as republican in nature as possible. Also, I'm not sure what marketing Yar'adua ever did or GEJ, for them to be elected presidents.

Despite armed Fulan herdsmen killing people across Nigeria, Nigerians had no problem electing a Fulani man like Buhari President of Nigeria

Despite OPC wrecking havoc in the South West in the 90's, killing people and driving non indigenes out, Nigerians had no problem electing a Yoruba man like Obasanjo President in the late 90's

Despite Ijaw Niger Delta militants destroying and killing people in the South South, Nigerians elected an Ijaw man called Jonathan President

It is only when it comes to Igbos that people start making unnecessary noise they did not make with others

Munamoqel:
igbos are economic Nigerians been in every nook of Nigeria is economic and not for nation building .even within the nook they stay within there enclave .they faslely assume they are the smartest (crime )Nigerians and abuse hospitality.

It is a known fact that Igbos integrate wherever they find themselves and also assimilate other cultures - if that isn't nation building then what is?

As for your last statement, yes Igbos do sort of have a superiority complex which can be a real cause of disaffection but I don't agree that having a superiority complex should be the reason why they are a target for killing at every instance of Riots in the North or why they should never be in the presidency in Nigeria.

SlyDev:


Emotional tantrum as usual, Zik is one of the reason also

You haven't added anything to the discussion.

Now run along boy.

SlyDev:
Igbos by default are not political leader and administrator material. People easily overwhelmed with emotions are not to be trusted with power.

You be Otondo

gidgiddy:
Despite armed Fulan herdsmen killing people across Nigeria, Nigerians had no problem electing a Fulani man like Buhari President of Nigeria

Despite OPC wrecking havoc in the South West in the 90's, killing people and driving non indigenes out, Nigerians had no problem electing a Yoruba man like Obasanjo President in the late 90's

Despite Ijaw Niger Delta militants destroying and killing people in the South South, Nigerians elected an Ijaw man called Jonathan President

It is only when it comes to Igbos that people start making unnecessary noise they did not make with others

It is quite baffling to be honest.

Nigerians of other ethnicities hold Igbos to a standard that they've never held others to, most especially their own people.

Because I hate igbos with all my heart

KillIgbohoN0W:
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Afonja don run in the face of truth.

Nwafors will own Nigeria with just 4 years of Presidency unlike Afonjas that have spent 12 years there with nothing to show for it except being slaves to Fulani Bororo.

Zik was president, what did he do?.. spent all his time devising ways to hijack western region from Awolowo & divide it into Mid west.. No national achievements.
Aguiyi was in power, what did he do?.. destroyed regional federalism.
Ekwueme was the VP, what did he do?.. Zilch!
Better shut da fook up and run along

The answer to your question is obvious.

Envy, anger and frustration against the Igbo. They never believe a day will come when all eyes will be on Igbo to salvage what is left of Nigeria.


Just take a clue at the idiot above throwing tantrum around. He is not even born when zik, ironsi, ekwueme existed yet that hatred in them is still playing out..