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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by TheSameGuy(m): 6:08pm On Jan 16, 2022
Name that tribe that was abused Mr canceller.

Mention the tribe that was insulted
ObianujuAku1:
mynd44 lalasticlala Seun
Rule 2
insulting a tribe

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Prinxzona10: 6:15pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheRealestGuy:


Yes I agree that some Igbos can be very boastful and is full of himself especially when he's successful.

I also agree that denigrating other ethnic groups is unacceptable and I mentioned this in another comment that this can cause disaffection (even though Igbos also received their fair share of this denigration).

However, should this be the reason for intense hate to the extent of targeting them during riots or an Oba threatening their entire existence?

Every ethnic group has a stereotype and some form of weakness or Achilles heel that others really dislike (for example I could talk about Yorubas being cunning and not standing for principles or the Idoma/Ijaws being drunks - however these are mainly stereotypesthat do not necessarily hold as truth).

Talking about ethnic bigotry, we all know that all ethnic groups in Nigeria are guilty of this and this didn't make one group refuse to vote another based off of their ethnicity alone.

The part about Jonathan's administration is pure nonsense so I won't bother to comment on it.
Honestly,your thread is good devoid of any tribal inclination buh some people have started lamenting and calling you names just because they hate the truth and anyone that raises this kind of question is dune ipob immediately.
There's nothing you can say here to convince those people that have made up their minds to hate anything and everything Igbos because their minds have been programmed that Igbo man is the cause of Nigeria problems.
The guy you quoted was using psychological blackmail on other tribes to allure favor to themselves and to make others disperse the Igbos and we know the game very much here via by including Edo the south south in his silly write up(which have been their modus operandi since).
Please OP,can you ask the dude to provide the evidence where an Igbo people asked Goodluck Jonathan to exclude them from his government of which he wouldn't because it's the imagination of his hatefulness towards igbos(you can see how he cunningly included Fulani also,just to make it looked like igbos are against every tribes and imagine Fulani,the infamous owners of Nigeria niii).
I always read comments here when i'm free a bit and I perfectly understand every steps or comments even when someone is trying to cunningly sound unbiased with his or her statements here.
Though igbo people have pride too much and can be jealous for themselves than been jealous of an outsider buh that doesn't mean they hate themselves or can't unite to fight and achieve a common goal...every tribes in Nigeria have their own negative vibes buh when every negative vibes been attributed to one particular region from another particular region,then we call that one hate,imbibed hatred over common sense.
Finally,many people are opening thread to counter tinubu on why he shouldn't be president or why Yoruba people shouldn't try to run for the office via that it's not their turn yet and that they have held it for years and still holding it secondly now buh many of these guys here always call those people Igbo because every sane minds that doesn't support tinubu or who stands on justice,equity and fairness,automatically becomes igbos to them.they can abuse you to any length once you're against their selfish and wicked ambitions and according to them,the igbos don't deserve it and if table should turn now,I know they will not take half of all these nonsense things igbos have taken in nigeria talk more of depriving them the presidency.
NB:the real,intelligent,smart and great yorubas always stands for the truth and they don't support all these injustice in any way,it's only those that constitute nuisance here that supports everything against igbos including the killings of igbos by Nigerian securities and herdsmen and if that is not an undiluted hatred,then it may be pure love from Satan.
I rest my case...gracias!!!!

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 6:27pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheRealestGuy:


Yes many Igbos voted against Abiola simply because he was a crook who actually sponsored a number of military coups.

The Igbos generally don't support crooks for national positions, the same way someone like Orji Uzor Kalu or Rochas will be roundly rejected by Igbos if they ever contested for any national leadership position.

It is not primary elections that determine who becomes president but that rhe candidate must win in 2/3 of the states in the federation.

You don't have any cogent reason man.

Try again.

But you know so much about Tofa and he has the ability to run the country better than Abiola, and conveniently an Ibo man was his VP pick and his party controlled most SE states. Keep making excuses or trying to be clever. You were playing the politics you all accuse Tinubu of playing in 2015 but lack the courage to admit it.

The difference is you lost the 1993 election while Tinubu won his own 2015 election.

Your current hatred for him today is
disguised envy and jealousy of his ability to succeed while your people failed.

If Tofa had won and gotten the 1993 presidency won't one Ibo be positioned and expect to align with North to produce the president after 8 years?

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Prinxzona10: 6:33pm On Jan 16, 2022
hammer567:
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2023, IS GOING TO BE A SWEET VICTORY FOR THE IGBO NATION, WHICH EVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.


WHETHER YOU LIKE OR NORTH, IGBO WILL HAVE THEIR OWN LEADER AFTER 2023.


BE IT IN NIGERIA OR OUTSIDE NIGERIA.



ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

OP was thinking that he's relating with human beings not knowing that these guy's souls are filled with super hatred for the igbos and there's no preaching to wash it off..
Their minds have been programmed already to hate anything and everything igbos including the OP,of which they have assumed that he's igbo and shouldn't sound sane...they want everybody to be hailing them in their wickedness,foolishness,greediness and in their stupidity.
Just watch their silly games,the way he brought south south into this,via that the igbos also hate them,so that south south will start seeing the igbos like them buh it will certainly clear from their eyes before their unambitious 2023 nii.
You leave your regions and start spitting two brothers to hate themselves,what can we call that....love or hate??.
NB: I don't even wish the igbos to be president because it's useless and it benefits no man...just their(politicians) business as usual and if you doubt me,ask Hausas,fulanis and even Yoruba if their land have turned to Dubai since they have held the post for many years,so it's a total rubbish and waste of time...
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 6:33pm On Jan 16, 2022
hammer567:



2023, THEY HAVE NO CHOICE AND WE MUST MAKE THEM AWARE THAT 2023 IS A REFERENDUM VOTE.



THE OUTCOME OR RUN-UP EVENTS WILL RESULT IN SE EXIT FROM NIGERIA.



WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY YORUBA OR FULANI MAN TO RULE OVER US.

Shut up, your people gave a Fulani man 80% of your votes in 2019 and are set to repeat it again in 2023, but who cares? It's same results, failure
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jan 16, 2022
oyatz:


You can't really take Nairaland banters to be the representative views of the whole ethnic group.

I am a bonafide Lagosian with real business and social involvement on the ground in Nigeria. I dont lie and never make false claims. Even against those I detest.

Nairaland reinforces the reality on the ground I see that many deny just to play to the gallery and be politically correct. I dont play to the gallery and dont do PC. Ever. Igbos are irredeemably clannish and hateful on and offline.

I express shock at what I read on that thread not because I think Igbos are incapable of such. I was shocked they are foolish and ungaurdedly naive to publicly vent like that.

We need restructuring so everyone can go and build from their regional base and according to their shared identity rather than having 'one Nigeria' forced on them.
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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Prinxzona10: 6:44pm On Jan 16, 2022
hammer567:
WHEN YOU START DOING CALCULATION AND THE RESULT OR THE OUTCOME IS THE SAME.


THEN YOU KNOW IT IS DESTINY.



DO THE CALCULATION YOURSELF, CAN TINUBU CONTROL A MAJOR CONFLICT THAT HAS BEEN BREWING NATIONWIDE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SE AND SS?




IS IT OSINBANJO THAT WILL BE ABLE TO CONTROL SUCH CONFLICT?



BUHARI HAS BARELY SURVIVED AND IS LEAVING BEHIND A MOUNTAIN OF PROBLEMS.



IN 2015, NIGERIA DID NOT HAVE ARMED GROUPS IN EVERY REGION, TODAY(2023) WE DO.


Believe me,I don't think Nigeria will stand after 2023 because either ways, Biafrans are going and do you know the either ways?
If Northerner becomes the President, the south will never accept that especially the south west(because tinubu will cause commotion and scatter the remaining table with all these his urchins and social media miscreant,agberos etc) and if southerner becomes the president (the south south,the south east or the south west)the north will make it hell fire for the person via that the fights or war going on in the north now from the terrorist and the bandits are just a child's play compare to what's coming,if you doubt me,ask buhari via that his infamous quote about fight against boko haram,is a fight against the north.
95% of the northerners will be in support of them and you wouldn't dare to kill them,if not they will revolt against your government....
Any which ways,Nigeria is doomed already and that's the truth because God want to set the masses free from these evil,wicked and selfish politicians.
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jan 16, 2022
LLiKYekoba:





Igbos will continue to progress in a bullish manner in all ramifications while you scavenge for human parts in Oshogbo in a bid to have a piece to eat.
Your litanies of Islamic ewedugerian lamentations changes nothing about the supremacy of Igboism. cheesy

Gay mofo, in social media interpretation, do you know what it means for a man to be posting pictures of other men adoringly?

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 6:57pm On Jan 16, 2022
sirp9898:
Biafra is the answer to Africa technology that is y yorubas and co are afraid of biafra or Igbo presidency. They are use to suffering and at the same time complaining.
Until Igbo's have their freedom Nigeria and Africa can never grow rich, not the riches of egosm but the riches of the masses.
In GOD Igbo's trust.

You are still playing the Zik playbook of God of Africa made the Ibo to be leaders and liberator of Africa that has put you in the current predicament. The lie is seem in your inability to excel in the little enclave given to you to manage.

It's not a curse but your situation will take a very long time to get solution

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 6:59pm On Jan 16, 2022
Grayoso:


Indeed. Till today no Igbo can honestly expalin why they are the only ones, of the over 100 ethnic group residing in Lagos, always claiming to own Lagos and bragging irreverently and falsely they have "bettered" Yorubas in their land.

I would like for even one Igbo to explain why they are the only ones guitly of such ungrateful, offensive, treacherous and totally unwarranted bad mouthing of others they shoukd celebrate and be grateful to.

What Igbo do is the lowest form of treachery akin to abusing and betraying the kindness, tolerance and benevolence of others in the worst way humanly possible.

Yet not a single Igbo is honest enough to say "we are offensive and need to change our ways towards others".

Instead they keep disturbing us with stupid and revisionist threads like this one where they pretend to be innocent victims.

The pretend amnesia of Igbos just shows their devious and sociopathic nature.

Yet non of them has seen the success of Dangote and Rabiu in Lagos. Just imagine Dangote were to be an Ibo

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by omoharry(f): 7:01pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheRealestGuy:
I ask this question cos it is bewildering and quite shocking to see the reactions of a lot of Nigerians whenever the question of an Igbo presidency is brought up.

Bear in mind that historically, Igbos have voted for a Yoruba man for presidency (Obasanjo in '99 & '03), an Ijaw man (GEJ in '11) as well as twice for core Fulani men (Yar'adua and Atiku). Therefore, any accusations of hate of other tribes by Igbos is laughable and obviously untrue.

Furthermore, Igbos can arguably be said to be the most integrated ethnic group in Nigeria since there's no LGA or Town in the country where you won't find a sizable number Igbo people most likely engaging in business, paying taxes and adding their quota to the economic and social development of the state.

Now I know the issue of the 1966 coup might come up but remember that this was a military affair which cannot be blamed on the average Igbo man and that the coup plotters weren't solely of Igbo origin. Also, those involved in the coup have written several books as to the reason why it was carried out (e.g. Why We Struck by Col. Ademoyega) hence, ruling out any idea that it was an ethnic cleansing.

Finally, it is on record that an Igbo officer was the one who foiled the coup and arrested the officers involved (even though he could have handled it much better by meting out justice asap). Also, if the 1966 coup were to be the reason for the irrational distrust, haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

Last thing I can think of is that they are afraid that an Igbo president will push for referendum to be reinserted into the constitution. Question is how is that a negative thing? Remember that the right to self determination is something that every progressive country should have and in a democracy, all discussions no matter how sensitive must be allowed as that is how a democracy matures - it is tested continuously.

EDIT: Issues of being boastful and denigrating to other Nigerians in towns and cities where Igbos conduct their businesses have come up. While I agree that the average Igbo man's big ego is a weakness that can cause him to be disliked by others, I do not believe it is a cogent enough reason to perpetually refuse to give them a chance at steering the affairs of a country where they form one of the major ethnic groups.


So I'm asking directly - If you're one of those vehemently opposing the idea of an Igbo president, can you give a good/cogent reason for this decision?
I personally don't have anything against Igbo presidency.
However, I sometimes feel the ticket might be wasted, if given to a candidate from the SE.This is becos, the Igbos will never put thier individual egos' and self interest aside to support who ever emerges as the presidential candidate amongst them .

The Atiku/Obi case was an eye opener. While other ethnic group had accepted and endorsed Obi after he was handpicked by Atiku, the Igbo ethnic group were still scrupling among themselves as to why Obi was chosen over some them.

Other Ethnic group had to appeal for the SE to support thier own for the an Atiku/Obi ticket .
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by QueenAgbo(f): 7:30pm On Jan 16, 2022
omoharry:
I personally don't have anything against Igbo presidency.
However, I sometimes feel the ticket might be wasted, if given to a candidate from the SE.This is becos, the Igbos will never put thier individual egos' and self interest aside to support who ever emerges as the presidential candidate amongst them .

The Atiku/Obi case was an eye opener. While other ethnic group had accepted and endorsed Obi after he was handpicked by Atiku, the Igbo ethnic group were still scrupling among themselves as to why Obi was chosen over some them.

Other Ethnic group had to appeal for the SE to support thier own for the an Atiku/Obi ticket .


They will deny it never happened.You know those guys lie with bold face.
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by omoharry(f): 7:30pm On Jan 16, 2022
Grayoso:


OP, you have your answer in the response above. Other Nigerians don't like Igbos and never will as long as the average Igbo has the mindset of the douchebag above.

Nigerians tolerate you but they don't like you because of your arrogance and insultive disrespect, based on nothing and totally unwarranted, towards them.

Even a spare part hustler in Ladipo, barely getting by, will be bragging Igbos "own" Lagos.

You are tolerantly supported and allowed to thrive in Lagos in the SW and far from your barren SE enclave. Yet how do you pay back your hosts? With enmity and demeaning insult.

Meanwhile , we don't hear ingrate noise from the more than 100 ethnic groups in Lagos to include successful ones like Edos etal.

Only Igbos will be insulting Yorubas that they" "own" Lagos and have turned Yorubas to slaves in their own land when those statements are ridiculous lies any sane person should be ashamed to tell.

You won't question your folks for having such a troublemaking and offensive mindset.

Instead you start threads like this where you pretend to be the victim of discrimination.

Your thread is mischievous and indicts you as insincere because, if honest to yourself, you should know the annoying behavior of your own people that makes them difficult to like let alone support to lead other Nigerians.

We all saw what you made of the Jonathan Presidency when he is actually Ijaw. You vindictively demanded everyone else, especially Yorubas and Fulanis, be excluded, marginalised, oppressed and punished. You demanded the Presidency be used as a tool to satisfy your lust for vengeance against others.

What will you then demand if an actual Igbo is President? How can Yorubas and Fulanis, for example, ever support an Igbo to be President when you have shown your hands of ethnic bigotry and hate to them uncountable times?
When it comes to the two ethnic group that throws jabs at one another online ,the Igbos and the Yorubas have thier own fair share of abusing one another. So ,dont start with only the Jabs that have be thrown against the Yorubas by the Igbos, without capturing some horrible jabs that have been thrown at the Igbo by the Yorubas.
Stop playing the victim here- as if both ethnic group have not be at each others throat since 2015. If you know you don't have the stomach for unecessary insult, then your guys must stop throwing insulting statement all over the place just to annoy the other ethnic group. Don't you know it pinches them as much as it does to you ?
So, when it comes to insulting one another online , both the Igbos and the Yorubas are guilty of horrible comments against the other ethnic group .
However, that are not the reasons why people are skeptical of the Igbo presidency.
I think some of them as as follows:
1) Pro-Divsion advocate: I feel other ethnic group don't believe the Igbos will unit Nigerians, becos they are Pro-dis-integration of the country ,which the elite from the north don't want to hear.They feel that through an Igbo presidency, Nigeria can easily divide .

(2) Lack of Unity : The Igbos are not united . They don't have that unity of purpose to support a choosen & credible candidate among them, without allowing thier Ego and pride to get in the way .E.g Atiku/Peter Obis' case .

3) Past Sins: They still have not been forgiven for the killings of thier leaders in the first Republic.( Though the north have done worse than the Igbos and they still get elected ,so what is thier own) The general north still hold majority of the vote and nobody would want to risk thier ticket with an ethnic group that is not in good terms with the north .
4) No national figure from the Igbo extraction had been tested and praised by his works. Just like Osibanjo from the S.W. He managed to showed his leadership skills with the little time he was given to lead the country. On the other hand , most of the Igbo leaders from both APC & PDP have been a big disappointment and leave less to he desired .
The only person from the SE I know is Peter Obi &Umahi from PDP . Obi, Who is known on a national level becos of the last presidential election as a VP to Atiku. Umahi on the other hand, is good but he is not known on a national level.
Aside from these two ,the rest contenders, especially from the APC party are nothing to right home about .They are a complete disaster just like our other politicians.
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 7:32pm On Jan 16, 2022
franchasng:
The reasons Yorubas and Northerners are scared of Igbo President is this:



The North is scared that an Igbo President may end up splitting Nigeria, which will be a total disaster for the North who depend mostly on Southern crude oil.



The Yorubas are scared of Igbo President simply because Yorubas know that the only tribe that outsmarts them in Nigeria are the Igbos and giving an Igbo man President poses a threat to Yoruba region economic dominance of Nigeria, as in Lagos factor. They feel an Igbo President will open up Southeast and Southsouth trade and economic channels to the disadvantage of Lagos the heartbit of Yoruba nation.



Its all fear of uncertainty. They fear Igbo dominance of Nigerian affairs just as it was after the independence that Igbos dominated all sectors of Nigeria to the envy of several major tribes. They desperately don't want that era to repeat again.



They know an Igbo President will correct a lot of injustices against Southeast region since the end of the civil war that reduced Southeast economic power in Nigeria, for example Southeast is the only geopolitical zone with 5 states.




It is a generational hatred, they don't have any genuine or justifiable reason, just normal rhetorical excuses and fallacies of hasty generalizations.



My own advice to the Yorubas is this, Yorubas have tried in the past to remain just and neutral in their affairs with Igbos and other regions in the past, but take it from me, if Yorubas dont retreat from this recent greed to grab it all at all time without considering equity, fairness and justice in the name of political sophistication or whatever they may call it, and decide that they can use the civil war and IPOB secession propagandas to demarket Igbos and cury Northern people favour and support and grab the 2023 Presidency, the same law of nature that balances life events and rewards injustices of human to fellow humans will raise a sword among Nigerians that will make that Yoruba man's tenure worst than Buhari's tenure today.


In fact, what my instinct is telling me to say about the future of Nigeria after 2023 political higyhaga is scary and I don't wanna say it out for now.


Yeah right, that's why Jonathan surrounded by Ibos for 6 years were unable to solve a single one out of all the Ibo itemized issues with Nigeria. Now Buhari is already solving 3 problems - Zik Mausoleum, Federalroadsand 2nd Niger bridge

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 7:37pm On Jan 16, 2022
franchasng:
Igbos have more than over competent hands to rule Nigeria but the internal party politics which will be based on tribal sentiments and secession propagandas wont allow an Igbo candidate to emerge as party flag bearer of any major party and thats why Igbos are kind of screaming that competent Igbo candidates should be given a fair chance to flag their party tickets and see what happens.



We all know that Nigerian Presidential elections are won from party primaries and most times the party primaries are rigged by the party stalwarts who are mostly incumbent President's mercenaries.



Please note, Igbos dont want


Orji Uzo Kalu
Rochas Okorocha

and some others.



Igbo Peoples choice candidates are:


Peter Obi
Dave Umahi
Dr Ogbonnaya Onu
Ngozi Okonjo Iweala
Kingsley Moghalu
Osita Chidoka


and many others

Yet you voted in 1999 against the SW candidate Falae and now sing song that you have cooperated with SW in voting Obasanjo.

Do on to others what you won't mind them doing on to you.

I think SW is fully prepared for SE not voting for it's preferred candidate in 2023 and will surely understand

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by LLiKYekoba: 7:38pm On Jan 16, 2022
Grayoso:


Gay mofo, in social media interpretation, do you know what it means for a man to be posting pictures of other men adoringly?

The guy is oozing super Igbo testosterone. I sure you be fagg0t maggot na why you dey think like that.
Show that Okoro picture to your yoruba wife or sister and see if she won't get wet automatically in her panties. grin

Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 7:52pm On Jan 16, 2022
LLiKYekoba:


The guy is oozing super Igbo testosterone. I sure you be fagg0t maggot na why you dey think like that.
Show that Okoro picture to your yoruba wife or sister and see if she won't get wet automatically in her panties. grin

Odoyo. Why are you worshipping any man if an assured alpha male? See how you insecure and weak dunces, used to hiding behind other men, make a fool of yourselves?

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Ovamboland(m): 7:54pm On Jan 16, 2022
xelly:


How did the other candidates convince voters?

What are the records of the other candidates
The choice of not voting Buhari in SE is the evidence of what we see in Nigeria today.

Nigerians should have lined behind SE in making choice of candidate for 2023 since they warned us before hand about the calamity of Buhari.

But now you're commanding the same Buhari-led party to select one of you as his successor, you see how childish you are?

You can't calculate anything successfully without a currency sign in front
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by JaroMan: 8:23pm On Jan 16, 2022
Onyiiobi7735:
Hmmm! That's a question I can't answer properly, but all I know is this,we Igbos don't know how to play national politics well.Moreover we are not even united in one accord on the issue.Ordinary Ohanaeze Ndigbo presidency, and we were already tearing ourselves apart,forming two opposing factions in the sociocultural group.
If Biafra should come,is that how the nation would be ruled?
Enugu man against Anambra man,Anambra against Abia,Abia against Imo.
But one thing is sure,if Biafra should come, Ebonyi would be heavily marginalised because other Igbo subgroups see them as second class.
I doubt your identity but if true, learn this;
1. After the war, an Igbo man became VP, speaker of HoR. Despite the suspicion at that time, they got these posts.
2. In 1993, they were prominent in SDP and NRC. Vice to Tofa, while Nzeribe was very strong in SDP.
3. In 1999, Alex Ekwueme formed PDP. If not annulment of June 12, he would've won that ticket fair and square because while those you think know politics, were busy with AD and APP, Ekwueme played national politics, yet lost.
In same 1999, Ogbonnaya Onuh won APP ticket against all odds.
So Igbos were prominent in north based APP and also nationally spread PDP. Yet they lost out.
4. In 2003, APGA came up, Igbos voted overwhelmingly for APGA, yet they rigged the election. Yet they said we played tribal politics, forgetting that APP and AD won majority in north and all SW respectively.
So in all these, Igbos have always been with the party at the until 2015.
I always think that all you kids started following politics in 2015. How painful it will be discussing politics with y'all.
Ohaneze election was Superb and Amb Obiozor is the chairman. Same can't be said of ACF who divided into ACF and NEF. Or haven't you noticed the drag for space for the two bodies? I guess you're blind.
Afenifere has Renewal and other factions. You're blind to see it.
Like I said, I strongly doubt your identity and I hope I'm wrong. But if I'm right, shame shall be your lot.

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by franchasng: 8:27pm On Jan 16, 2022
Ovamboland:


Yet you voted in 1999 against the SW candidate Falae and now sing song that you have cooperated with SW in voting Obasanjo.

Do on to others what you won't mind them doing on to you.

I think SW is fully prepared for SE not voting for it's preferred candidate in 2023 and will surely understand
I know Obasanjo is an Hausa man abi? Sighs undecided
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Daveconsult007: 8:32pm On Jan 16, 2022
SlyDev:
Igbos by default are not political leader and administrator material. People easily overwhelmed with emotions are not to be trusted with power.

Story story.

Yet they're heading leadership position in global institutions like World Bank and WTO

Even most developed countries they winning Elections.

I'm not Igbo but let's not decieve ourselves.

Shebi na Fulani and Hausa that have leadership and administrative material.

Abeg make ị hear word
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by franchasng: 8:34pm On Jan 16, 2022
JaroMan:

I doubt your identity but if true, learn this;
1. After the war, an Igbo man became VP, speaker of HoR. Despite the suspicion at that time, they got these posts.
2. In 1993, they were prominent in SDP and NRC. Vice to Tofa, while Nzeribe was very strong in SDP.
3. In 1999, Alex Ekwueme formed PDP. If not annulment of June 12, he would've won that ticket fair and square because while those you think know politics, were busy with AD and APP, Ekwueme played national politics, yet lost.
In same 1999, Ogbonnaya Onuh won APP ticket against all odds.
So Igbos were prominent in north based APP and also nationally spread PDP. Yet they lost out.
4. In 2003, APGA came up, Igbos voted overwhelmingly for APGA, yet they rigged the election. Yet they said we played tribal politics, forgetting that APP and AD won majority in north and all SW respectively.
So in all these, Igbos have always been with the party at the until 2015.
I always think that all you kids started following politics in 2015. How painful it will be discussing politics with y'all.
Ohaneze election was Superb and Amb Obiozor is the chairman. Same can't be said of ACF who divided into ACF and NEF. Or haven't you noticed the drag for space for the two bodies? I guess you're blind.
Afenifere has Renewal and other factions. You're blind to see it.
Like I said, I strongly doubt your identity and I hope I'm wrong. But if I'm right, shame shall be your lot.
Most of them are nodowells in real life who derive their joy only in hating and bashing Igbos online.



Can any of these online lapdogs have the courage to look at me eyeballs to eyeballs?


They keep hating Igbos and playing tribal card against Igbos online but in real life, they rely on the same Igbos for various helps and assistances.


I have more than 3 Yorubas on my payroll, I cherish them but sometimes when I read their evil propagandas and hatred for Igbos online, I Just feel like sacking them.



Most of them dont even know Tinubu in person and will never benefit under Tinubu Presidency but may benefit hugely under an Igbo person presidency, but just because of foolish ego and to brag that their tribesman is the President, they rather use their mouth to destroy the Igbo person that may end up being more beneficial to them than their so called tribesman.



Stupidity run in the hearts of most Nigerians honestly.

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Daveconsult007: 8:37pm On Jan 16, 2022
headSmasher:
They want presidency through emotional blackmail

President was submitted to Yoruba in 1999 for same purpose....... Emotional blackmail.

In lead up 2015 elections, the North argued that the presidency be returned to the region to complete Late Musa Yaradua's tenure.

Is that not emotional blackmail but when it's ibos, Nigerians lose their senses.

Very disgusting
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by tit(f): 8:42pm On Jan 16, 2022
hammer567:



2023, THEY HAVE NO CHOICE AND WE MUST MAKE THEM AWARE THAT 2023 IS A REFERENDUM VOTE.



THE OUTCOME OR RUN-UP EVENTS WILL RESULT IN SE EXIT FROM NIGERIA.



WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY YORUBA OR FULANI MAN TO RULE OVER US.

Mumu dey worry you
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Daveconsult007: 8:42pm On Jan 16, 2022
Aufbauh:
The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.


You lie man.

I'm not Igbo but those people took nigeria as theirs.

Their investments across Nigeria have defeated your false claim... I know how much investment and jobs they created in my town, I wish I could say that for other ethnic groups in Nigeria.
.. Even though they are not perfec because no one is.
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Daveconsult007: 8:45pm On Jan 16, 2022
aribisala0:
Eboes did not vote a Yoruba ,at any time

Spare that story for the gods.

You contested against Obasanjo and were defeated.

So why don't you contest against Tinubu or whoever and defeat them.

If you are successful in clinching the tickets of PDP AND APC then see if Nigerians will vote for you

Do not make false comparisons

You MUST COMPETE AT THE PARTY LEVEL and clinch tickets there . Do not expect any party to gift you their candidacy because you are Eboe

The only person who contested against OBJ was a Yoruba, Olu Falae.
Please don't twist the history
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by aribisala0(m): 8:54pm On Jan 16, 2022
Daveconsult007:


The only person who contested against OBJ was a Yoruba, Olu Falae.
Please don't twist the history
Ekwueme contested . He suffered a humbling defeat
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by xelly: 9:04pm On Jan 16, 2022
Ovamboland:


But now you're commanding the same Buhari-led party to select one of you as his successor, you see how childish you are?

You can't calculate anything successfully without a currency sign in front

I am not a hypocrite. Meanwhile, Buhari is not the electorate.

Hope you are aware of the current state of ECA? PDP was a disaster as we said in 2015. What could be better than Buhari lead government of APC?

You are only making noise now. I assure you that you will soon weep for Nigeria if you actually love this country.

If you are honest, you should have dissociated from Buhari by now but because of hypocrisy, you will come here to defend him and go back to your closet to destroy him.

You would have been helpful to this nation if not for your hypocrisy.
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by LLiKYekoba: 9:14pm On Jan 16, 2022
Grayoso:


Odoyo. Why are you worshipping any man if an assured alpha male? See how you insecure and weak dunces, used to hiding behind other men, make a fool of yourselves?

Gayoso, I am an IGBO alpha male and you know it. That pix is not far from what I really look like. grin
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jan 16, 2022
omoharry:
I personally don't have anything against Igbo presidency.
However, I sometimes feel the ticket might be wasted, if given to a candidate from the SE.This is becos, the Igbos will never put thier individual egos' and self interest aside to support who ever emerges as the presidential candidate amongst them .

The Atiku/Obi case was an eye opener. While other ethnic group had accepted and endorsed Obi after he was handpicked by Atiku, the Igbo ethnic group were still scrupling among themselves as to why Obi was chosen over some them.

Other Ethnic group had to appeal for the SE to support thier own for the an Atiku/Obi ticket .

that's a fallacy. the SE was the only zone that gave Atiku over 75% of its vote.Even Atiku couldn't get 60% from his region- I don't even think that he got 50.
As usual, you guys will put the blame on an Igbo man.

personally,I don't fancy an Igbo man getting the president 2023.

1) I don't like politicians (those who have declared )from the SE going for the presidency. Am yet to see someone competent and bold.

2) you guys will as usual heap the blame of every wrong both past and present on our (igbo) door.We will be judged differently and harshly just like happened to goodluck.

3) our present crop of politicians loosing the presidency will understand that in the actual run of things, the SE is considered inconsequential to Nigeria. peeps like ouk and Ayim will be retired permanently and the vicious new breed will take over (unfortunately ,ipob will just have more ammunition for it's armoury) but such heartbreak will serve as a rallying point for the resurgent Igbo nationalism

4) Nigeria needs a competent unifying hand like the late umaru musa yaradua of blessed memory ,the last 7 years and remaining 1 year was/is a disaster across every bond.


5) I think focus of the SE politicians at times like this should be primarily on the SE first. Charity begins at home. let the SW or North battle over the spoils, our day will surely come
Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by Aufbauh(m): 10:52pm On Jan 16, 2022
Daveconsult007:



You lie man.

I'm not Igbo but those people took nigeria as theirs.

Their investments across Nigeria have defeated your false claim... I know how much investment and jobs they created in my town, I wish I could say that for other ethnic groups in Nigeria.
.. Even though they are not perfec because no one is.

Okoro, when has investment outside one's locality culminates to an act of patriotism?
They're simply investing for values and returns.
So we should conclude that all those who invested in Dubai are patriotic to UAE.

Pls check the dictionary meaning of Patriotism.
It's simply Love for ones country.
You & I know that this is not true about those that consistently refer to their own country as 'Zoo', detest & defile constituted authorities of their own country.

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Re: Why Do A Lot Of Nigerians Of Other Ethnic Groups Reject Igbo Presidency? by NapoleonHill: 10:53pm On Jan 16, 2022
TheRealestGuy:


Your comments in quotes are simply banter that we all do to each other.

Similar to "Igbo man fit sell him family or use him mama for rituals, dem too like money". These banks should not form basis of treating them like second class citizens and keeping them away from the presidency perpetually.

The average hausa-fualni has been killing Igbos and other southerners since the 1950s for one flimsy reason or another. This did not make Igbos to not vote Yar'adua or hate Atiku.

About Igbos not "knowing how to market themselves in politics" the thing is that the average Igbo man does not conform to herd thinking and tries to be as republican in nature as possible. Also, I'm not sure what marketing Yar'adua ever did or GEJ, for them to be elected presidents.

If you're an Igbo person, you're about the calmest and most analytical I've seen on this space in a long time. This is the way to engage a conversation but your kinsmen don't have the emotional intelligence, sorry to say, to make such engagement.

That said, I want to inform you that what you call mere banters are, in fact, not so. They form the core and basis of what eventually goes to play in reality. They influence, ignite, and trigger people even in their daily activities with other tribes. The truth is, these banters are popular opinions among tribes and may not be overlooked at all.

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