TheRealestGuy:


They're just there for livelihood?

To the extent that they raise kids, inter marry, build houses and even have second generations there?

For all you huff and puff you haven't said what patriotism means to you?

You're likely one of those who think shouting one Nigeria at every opportunity is being patriotic, even with glaring injustice and nepotism.

You're notorious for your views on Igbos anyway so this is my last reply to you.

Most Nigerians (not just the Igbos) are not patriotic.


I don't see anything wrong with an Igbo candidate winning the presidential election.

mrvitalis:

How do u want Igbos to pay tax when their is no federal presence in Igbo land ..... fairness n equity ...we radiate back any energy given to us ...

E pain u sha

How much have u given to an Igbo man through trade and services this month ?

Thanks tho for helping to develop Igbo land

Dry

Grayoso:


That thread was really shocking. I am aware of Igbos hatred of the Yorubas but the anti-Yoruba sentiments on that thread shows who/what Igbos are and why they must never be entrusted with ultimate power.

Imagine advocating that the Presidency be used to "punish" and marginalize Yorubas?

If they are asking that of an Ijaw man, what will they demand from Anyim, Kalu or Obi?

You can't really take Nairaland banters to be the representative views of the whole ethnic group.

Grayoso:


[s]Odoyo. For everything you claim Igbos are doing, Yorubas are factually doing same a 100 times bigger and better. We have factually established this reality, to death, on Nairaland.

For any nation or people, human resources is King. The fact that Igbo human resources is largely ignorant, unexposed, dishonest, duplicitous and unrefined is the reason the bragaddocious noise of Igbos never match the reality we know about you people from your wretched 5 Stated that are the traditional home of Igbos in the world.

Igbos are the only people I know in the world who do not appreciate that charity must begin at home for a people who want to be taken seriously.

You leave your pathetic, barren and hopeless land ,you are unable to develop optimally, to scavenge for opportunities everywhere worldwide.

Even a child can tell that you people are fraudsters.[/s]

LILTJAY1:
african immigrants have been getting political appointments in europe and north america so there is nothing there to chest beat about stupid igbo man...
Even a minority luo tribe produce the POTUS..
But you are irrelevant politically in nigeria hahahaha

Igbos will continue to progress in a bullish manner in all ramifications while you scavenge for human parts in Oshogbo in a bid to have a piece to eat.
Your litanies of Islamic ewedugerian lamentations changes nothing about the supremacy of Igboism.

hammer567:


ONE THING I WILL COMMEND YORUBA MEN, IS THEIR OBSESSSION AND COMMITMENT TO CONTINUED OBSESSION OVER THE IGBO RACE.


THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, 2023 BELONGS TO THE IGBO AND WE WILL NOT WAIT FOR OSINBANJO TO CONCLUDE VP AND ENTER PRESIDENCY.



YORUBA WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GOVERN NIGERIA IN ONE PEACE.



WHICHEVER WAY YOU DO THE MATHS, YORUBA CANNOT RULE NIGERIA IN 2023, BE IT OSINBANJO OR TINUBU.

But you hope to get one of you become president in one piece or in peace?
E go shock you

Because they're bereaved of the intellectual capacity to Govern a Nation.

Evidence of how their region is govern is there.

Because they're full of hate and have no Political value as far as Nigeria Politics is concerned now.

Because they wish this country bad, call it a zoo. So animal like them won't be allowed to rule this country.



NEVER will they rule this country

gidgiddy:


Did you Nigerians care that Fulani herdsmen were butchering people across Nigeria when you elected a Fulani man like Buhari as President?

If IPOB or ESN are responsible for violence, it is only in the South East

But Fulani herdsmen are killing people in all 6 geopolitical zones, yet it was no problem when it came to electing a Fulani man president

Actually Fulani killer herdsmen became emboldened and widespread after Buhari came to power.

TheRealestGuy:


By default?

Who measures the indices for this your default?

I dare say that Zik of Africa was one of the best political leaders and admistrators Nigeria ever had.

As a matter of fact, it was his nationalistic outlook and idealist principles that made him lose to other more tribalistic leaders like Awo and Ahmadu Bello in the scheme of things at the time.

Your reason is not only awkward but a figment of your imagination.

then why are you not proud of what zik did? He made sure that there is no seccession in our constitution.
At that time igbos are majority in government, military, civil servant but they had nothing interms of natural minerals and their land was not good for agriculture. It was a greedy decision taken by Zik.
When IRONSI also came to power, he made sure that the the regionalization of the country is cancelled because igbos had nothing to show in their region. That is what we called greediness.
Ojukwu also was greedily chasing the seat of power but he didn't get it, he became a terrorist when he discovered that he will not get that seat of power.
When Adaka Boro decleared Niger delta republic, IRONSI and ojukwu fought him, killed his people and jailed him because of greediness.
An igbo man only focus his eyes on what is achievable within that period, they don't look forward to see what the future holds.
Greediness, greediness, greediness is what the past Igbo leaders know. They take decision based on their selfish interest without thinking of how it will affect them in the future when the table turn.

Apparently, fools on both sides of the argument have overrun the thread.

If above has any reasonable input please mention the original post and I will try to respond.

So far, there's not been any reasonable cause of the irrational fear for an Igbo presidency (except the 1966 saga which I addressed after someone raised it as a comment).

If North want to end Terrorism and banditry, they should vote Igbo man as president of this country.

If our northern MUSLIM leaders are sincere to end Terrorism let us vote IGBO man as president wallahi every Boko Haram and fulani Terrorists will run away from Nigeria.

Just like Trump.

LLiKYekoba:





[s]Igbos will continue to progress in a bullish manner in all ramifications while you scavenge for human parts in Oshogbo in a bid to have a piece to eat.
Your litanies of Islamic ewedugerian lamentations changes nothing about the supremacy of Igboism. [/s]

smelling afikpo miscreant..
Abeg go look for some human meat to consume and leave political discussion for learned pepple

Na Just hate, jealousy, and every other factor that’ll make you not to wish someone well.

The name Igbo drive some people crazy and mad.

Aufbauh:
The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.

Can you explain patronising to me?

aribisala0:
Eboes did not vote a Yoruba ,at any time

Spare that story for the gods.

You contested against Obasanjo and were defeated.

So why don't you contest against Tinubu or whoever and defeat them.

If you are successful in clinching the tickets of PDP AND APC then see if Nigerians will vote for you

Do not make false comparisons

You MUST COMPETE AT THE PARTY LEVEL and clinch tickets there . Do not expect any party to gift you their candidacy because you are Eboe

When children talk, you can easily spot them. How was the voting by vote count? Which candidate of Yoruba origin didn't get votes from Igbos?

Just tell lies to your kids provided you are cool doing that.

You are still not Educated to spell Igbos?

SlyDev:


Emotional tantrum as usual, Zik is one of the reason also

The way you guys tag everything emotional is worrisome. Can you give standard of measurement for emotional and non emotional tantrum?

What in Nigeria is not emotional?

Can we do without emotions and critically analyse candidate so as to get the best?

Example, we line the candidates, judge them by the same parameter so as to screen unqualified out. This is when we do things without ethnic tags which is emotion.

Example of indices we can lookout for in all candidate;

1) Qualification Minimum of Msc
2) Age max. of 60years
3) Achiements
4) Job creation
5) Book written
6) Investment across Nigeria
7) Criminal Record

Anything short of same standard for all candidate is emotional.

TheRealestGuy:


Your comments in quotes are simply banter that we all do to each other.

Similar to "Igbo man fit sell him family or use him mama for rituals, dem too like money". These banks should not form basis of treating them like second class citizens and keeping them away from the presidency perpetually.

The average hausa-fualni has been killing Igbos and other southerners since the 1950s for one flimsy reason or another. This did not make Igbos to not vote Yar'adua or hate Atiku.

About Igbos not "knowing how to market themselves in politics" the thing is that the average Igbo man does not conform to herd thinking and tries to be as republican in nature as possible. Also, I'm not sure what marketing Yar'adua ever did or GEJ, for them to be elected presidents.

Only in your region do we see 85-95% of votes going to one candidate, what else do we call herd thinking?

Ovamboland:


Only in your region do we see 85-95% of votes going to one candidate, what else do we call herd thinking?

How did the other candidates convince voters?

What are the records of the other candidates
The choice of not voting Buhari in SE is the evidence of what we see in Nigeria today.

Nigerians should have lined behind SE in making choice of candidate for 2023 since they warned us before hand about the calamity of Buhari.

gidgiddy:
Despite armed Fulan herdsmen killing people across Nigeria, Nigerians had no problem electing a Fulani man like Buhari President of Nigeria

Despite OPC wrecking havoc in the South West in the 90's, killing people and driving non indigenes out, Nigerians had no problem electing a Yoruba man like Obasanjo President in the late 90's

Despite Ijaw Niger Delta militants destroying and killing people in the South South, Nigerians elected an Ijaw man called Jonathan President

It is only when it comes to Igbos that people start making unnecessary noise they did not make with others

Look inwards to see where the real problem lies, why would your people be universally disliked even in India, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia etc

TheRealestGuy:
haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

He killed the premier of the north and made fun about how he killed him in a videoed interview.

I'm not from Arewa, but back then in ABU Zaria, I could easily gather from my conversations with colleagues that therein lies the forever problem.

I don't think the relationship between the east and north will get better in time.

Ovamboland:


Look inwards to see where the real problem lies, why would your people be universally disliked even in India, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia etc

But if the same people say they want to go their as Biafra, it will be people like you that will be ready to pick up gun and fight war

How can you fight to be with people you dont like? That one I will never understand

izac82:
Ndi Igbo are still suffering from the vendetta of the civil war, after the defeat. Nigeria feasts on Igbo resources. Igboland was balkanized to achieve this purpose. Most Igbo clans were forced to deny their roots, as to fit in and be accepted.
The fear of an Igbo presidency reversing the injustice is enshrined on soul of the determinants of Nigerian leadership. The truth is they are scared an Igbo president can dare change the statuesque, and that is not what they want. The structure must remain as it is, so the resource drain can continue.

They are pressing your neck and are not about to lift the boot

gidgiddy:


But if the same people say they want to go their as Biafra, it will be people like you that will be ready to pick up gun and fight war

How can you fight to be with people you dont like? That one I will never understand

Go where? Animals don't get to leave the zoo, they grow old and die there

Ovamboland:


Look inwards to see where the real problem lies, why would your people be universally disliked even in India, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia etc

Too much development. They tend to over develop any place they are found but people are not grateful

Randerl:
In other words, IPOB/ESN was created to achieve a SE presidency via violence.

Ehen now!

Ok

JOemmy:
It's actually envy that they have allowed to turn into hate and fear of the igbo man the only solution still remains either restructuring or the outright division of nigeria any other thing is just prosponing the evil day cause it's very obvious to even the blind that the three major ethnic groups in nigeria will always be suspicious of each other and can never trust themselves even in a million years time.

or expunging the 4 Biafra state from Nigeria cos Ebony have rejected it.

TheSameGuy:
Because they're bereaved of the intellectual capacity to Govern a Nation.

Evidence of how their region is govern is there.

Because they're full of hate and have no Political value as far as Nigeria Politics is concerned now.

Because they wish this country bad, call it a zoo. So animal like them won't be allowed to rule this country.



NEVER will they rule this country

mynd44 lalasticlala Seun

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TheRealestGuy:


You are repeating the same mantra that I've tackled in my OP.

If Igbos are still living and carrying out their businesses in other parts of Nigeria, even in the heavily terrorised North where they are targets of over religious zealots, isn't that proof enough that they are deeply embedded in the Nigeria project?

What is your measure of patriotism? Is it by mouthing it or actually putting systems in place to ensure that justice and meritocracy is practised in all spheres of the nation?

Your reasons aren't quite cogent man. Try again.

Ibos are the only group who have taken up arms on sustained basis to dismember the country, it's normal to be viewed with suspicion.
To make matters worse many of your people now carry around the flag and symbols of that Biafra that took the lives of thousands of patriots to quell. You now turn around to be handed the keys to 'nuclear codes' of the same country, haba manna?

If Biafra had succeeded, with the Rivers area and Calabar considering the stance of Saro Wiwa, Adaka Boro who joined the Federals, how long will it take to hand over control of Biafra to those you said we're saboteurs?

If after 50 years of Biafra independence, Ogonis or Ijaws started agitating to join Nigeria or making flags and wears in Nigeria colours, will you entrust Biafra into their hands and risk an Ijaw president of Biafra handing your independence to Nigeria?

Munamoqel:
Okor expunging the 4 Biafra state from Nigeria cos Ebony have rejected it.

Sorry what are you saying?

How am I those people you mentioned Mr canceller?

Prove yourself and stop dragging me into your matter

ObianujuAku1:
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In their hearts, they wish Igbo should not become president of united Nigeria

TheSameGuy:
Sorry what are you saying?

How am I those people you mentioned Mr canceller?

Prove yourself and stop dragging me into your matter

mynd44 lalasticlala Seun

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where is the tribe ?expunge to remove the 4 state out of Nigeria .is it not una dream now it abuses