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Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 1:57am On Jun 25, 2011
Pleep in your dreams Cameroon is not Equatorial Guinea or Togo wink
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by youngies(m): 8:31am On Jun 25, 2011
@Nayah
You are a very funny lady. I like the humour though.
I can't understand what could be a more insulting and disturbing news than a man has ruled a country for more than 150 years.
Really, this is a big slap on the face of all Cameroonians
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by LADYOKIKI: 9:06am On Jun 25, 2011
@ Nayah not sure how u can say cameroon is peaceful when Biya has been president for all my life and people are sooo scared to voice their opinions and challenge the government. Cameroonians are scared to fight for what we believe in so we just accept the wrongs layed out by Biya and live with it. If that is your idea of peaceful then I prefer naija anyday
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 10:27am On Jun 25, 2011
Youngies and Lady Okiki this is not ME who say Cameroon is peaceful but it's a fact no matter what you can say, plus I think as a Cameroonian I know what I'm talking about no offense grin. Managing a huge number of different ethnic groups while your surroundings are quite instable, is a thing wa have to recognize as quite smart and especially in Africa, now as for Biya I thought I've said this is not my favourite President and acutally I think Cameroon could have been better, but please the fact is here.: Cameroon is one of the most peaceful country in Africa. I'm not talking about what you think fellows but it's about a fact

I was anwsering to a brother who ask me to tell more about Cameroon and its special aspect, and peace is among these
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by LADYOKIKI: 10:31am On Jun 25, 2011
Nayah I am cameroonian born and raised. Just came back from cameroon last month so I also do know what I am talking about however I guess we all see the world we live in through different eyes. Just because it is written in a paper it doesn't always make it true.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 11:22am On Jun 25, 2011
Lady Okiki so welcome sister me to I've been to Cameroon and I've never said Cameroon is perfect I repeat, but peace is a core of Cameroonian society sorry my dear and it's not just about paper.

Yes we can fight ( with jokes) each others sayin Bamiléké are the best, Bassa are strong, Duala are like this but when we talk about Cameroon we talk about Cameroon and not about, Bafia or Bulu or whatever again this is a fact.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 11:25am On Jun 25, 2011
Anyway this is not the topic, just want to have your opinion about the geographical position sister.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 1:52pm On Jun 25, 2011
Cameroon is a Middle African country. There is nothing like Central African region.



Middle Africa:

Angola
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Congo
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Gabon
Sao Tome and Principe

source: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm#africa

Egypt was a peaceful country 6 months ago, Libya too, Yemen, Syria etc. until the people said enough of this fake peace and took to the streets demanding their rights. There is fear in Cameroon and not peace. And it's worse when a youth with "education" like you is singing praises of an unfounded peace in a completely totalitarian country like that.

The only country in Africa you will never get a news about, good or bad for a whole year due to hardline sensorship by the dictator. Go and sing praises of your country to the people that want to hear that, French people.

We know the situation of Cameroon sister.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 2:38pm On Jun 25, 2011
Romeo"nothing like Central African region" what do you call Central African Region so? if the countries you mentioned are middle African countries, what's the difference? Central African Republic would not be in a Central African region? come on brother this is just words Besides do you know what we call CAEM or CEMAC? when you'll find it then tell me if Cameroon is nothing like Central African region. I think you're talking about Great lakes, cause in French it's "Afrique Centrale"

As for Egypt and so on , let me tell you something every country has its own history and reality, even though we got some similarities, not all African countries look alike. I mean what about Gabon and his population where Bongo Father died, everybody would have bet for a civil war, even though it's a very close french "friend" nothing really happened except little riots after the elections

In order to analyse a country politically you have to know its culture and history very very well. Cameroon in case you don't know has already known its darkest pages of its History back in the days (60's and 70's) and the repression was one of the most bloody in Africa together with Algeria and Madagascar especially in Bassa and Bamiléké land (ask cameroonians and you'll see) , so  that people are not ready to initiate any trouble and that's deep in the cameroonian mind

So you say know Cameroon and its situation, but allow me to tell you you do not completely and what you call a dictator somewhere can be interpretated in another way elsewhere, changing president doesn't mean organisation and peace. I prefer having a Khaddafi for 42 years and rising the Lybian living standard than 10 years of Abdoulaye Wade or 5 years of Sarkosy
Democracy as western countries point of view is not adpated to African realities sorry take the example of Rawlings then you'll get my point, but in terms of peace I strongly say, Cameroon is a example of what we call live together, fact

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Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 10:33pm On Jun 25, 2011
Dios!! Se me echa encima con mala leche. LoL. cheesy Mañana ok.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by youngies(m): 1:13pm On Jun 26, 2011
@Nayah
Your views as it regards credible democracy is very disappointing, especially coming from an educated person.
The worst democracy is still better than the best dictatorship.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 12:00am On Jun 27, 2011
youngies no as for me the deception is coming from some brothers who think democracy as tought by some civilisation to push down the others, is the best way of thinking, and this is because I'm an educated person that I 'm tell you this I'm trying not to take things superficilally

I assume and say I prefer one Khaddafi that 5 Abdoulaye Wade ( cause if I follow your position democracy means change regularly gvts) ok but I'm prooving that it's not always true and dictature is relative Rawlings was a "dictator" but now we all see this "totalitarism regime" was not so bad

Biya might not be the best African President, I agree cause I don't like his way of handling domestic Affairs, but I'm objective and again in terms of social cohesion Cameroon has it all.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Obiagu1(m): 1:36am On Jun 27, 2011
Cameroon is West African but joined the wrong union. They should have joined ECOWAS.
Many people know that they "belong" to central africa union (ECCAS) but find it hard to admit it.
Most articles on Cameroon will always say they are west africans, not that they are ignorant, but they know that's where they should be.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by tpia5: 3:53am On Jun 27, 2011
Cameroon is not west africa and i cant say i've met any who claim to be though admittedly i'm not sure i even asked.

But their culture is central african, not west african
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 12:19pm On Jun 27, 2011
Obiagu Cameroon has just ONE boundary with a west Africa country, just ONE, and about 5 with Central Africa. Plus our culture is closer to those countries and is the leader of this ECCAS as for articles it depends i know many of them who talk about "Afrique Centrale" in fact most of them
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 3:23pm On Jun 27, 2011
Nayah:

youngies no as for me the deception is coming from some brothers who think democracy as tought by some civilisation to push down the others, is the best way of thinking, and this is because I'm an educated person that I 'm tell you this I'm trying not to take things superficilally

I assume and say I prefer one Khaddafi that 5 Abdoulaye Wade ( cause if I follow your position democracy means change regularly gvts) ok but I'm prooving that it's not always true and dictature is relative Rawlings was a "dictator" but now we all see this "totalitarism regime" was not so bad

Biya might not be the best African President, I agree cause I don't like his way of handling domestic Affairs, but I'm objective and again in terms of social cohesion Cameroon has it all.

Some Cubans also think Fidel and his brother when they die should come back from the dead and continue ruling Cuba, lol

According to the young Cameroonian girl Nayah, There is only one and only intelligient person in Cameroon, Paul Biya. What plans do you people have incase he dies? Cameroon will stop existing? Or he will come back from the dead and continue from where he stopped? Give the younger generation of your people a chance and that muddy look that Cameroon has will become a shinny look.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 3:31pm On Jun 27, 2011
Romeo you should re read before interpreting, I didn't say Biya was the best or the most intelligent, and I said the contrary if you were not jumped on any conclusion yourself
My point is simple: Cameroon is a peaceful country don't even know why we're far to the core of the topic hope I made that clear
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 4:16pm On Jun 27, 2011
My problem with you is that you said Biya is responsible for the "peacefulness" of Cameroon, it never occured to you that maybe your people are peaceful by nature? And not because of Biya. Cameroon is one of the poorest countries in Africa goddam it; does that say somthing to you?
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by sasimalia(f): 4:45pm On Jun 27, 2011
English speaking cameroonians will tell you that Cameroon is part of West Africa (the culture of their people being more similar to the Nigerians ethnic groups living closer to the border) and French speaking cameroonians will tell you it is a central african country (food, language and culture again being closer to those of central african bantu ethnic groups).
I have always thought Cameroon was geo-politically in Central Africa, I "learned" otherwise being in contact with anglophone cameroonians. It is a matter of worldview and perspective. I still believe it makes more sense that it'd be associated with central africa.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 4:52pm On Jun 27, 2011
Yes sasi I agree with you
Romeo you shouldn't have any "problem" with me because I told you that historically Cameroonians knew a very dark page of its History and that was back in the 6O's and 70's and do not want this anymore, what's Biya has to d with this what I said is that he always tried to make any balance in the country to avoid frustrations period
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by FACE(m): 6:43pm On Jun 27, 2011
Cameroon is in central Africa and is a member of Central Africa economic area. There has to be a cut off point somewhere and Cameroon happens to be that line. However, a portion of Cameroon (Bakassi) is in W.A.

Cameroon is quite peaceful as well because you hardly get any ethnic riots and it's quite safe to travel at night. However, the people in South west Cameroon ( English speaking) feel very discriminated by their French speaking country men. I have travelled from Ekok - Emujok - Mamfe - Yaounde and the road in the SW could only be compared to the ones I travelled in Liberia soon after the war.

Also, the people are in constant fear of Biya as you cannot discuss him freely in public including taxis.

Your power supply is quite stable as well. I was in a hotel in Tiko and the window was shattered during a thunder storm and there was power cut, but power was restored as soon as the storm calmed and they were able to carry out repairs. Now, that was impressive, especially after being in Atlanta during a thunder storm and having to order pizza as there was no electric to cook for half a day.

You also have loads/variety of food and I got the impression that the average meal was like a feast (maybe the class of people I stay with in Cameroon) as a meal always comprised of at least two dishes. Some of your foods are quite similar to SE Nigeria (Calabar area) foods like Afan/Eru and E/kpankoko and roast plantain and fish (bole ?)

Water supply is also steady (at least in places I stayed in Douala, Tiko and Yaounde) and you pay by the meter.

I have strong links in Cameroon and I enjoy my visits to Cameroon, but I have watched Cameroon go down over the years (no thanks to Biya). I hope someone rescues you from him before there is a break in law and order.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 9:48pm On Jun 27, 2011
Face thanks for your contribution, as you understand my point, and thanks for having pointed out the fact Biya is NOT the key for peace in Cameroon but just contribution
Cameroonians themselves hate War and even West part of Cameroon which used to complain are now back to better feelings of course some people can continue to complain but believe me ask a western cameroonian leave Cameroon and he would respond you "why Cameroon is our country"so I think some complains shouldn't have to be associated to "tensions" or instability
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by preselect(m): 3:35am On Jun 28, 2011
I still insist that Cameroon with over 200 ethnic groups( according to nayah) and xtians and mus.lims in large proportions, is relatively a peaceful society. Nigeria's violence and inter tribal hatred and prejudice may not be entirely related to our free speech or inefficient govt. It may also be from within us as can be seen here in nairaland.

But I must confess, in the absence of good govt, I will take nigeria's political system over cameroon's system with one man rule over my entire lifetime. I've known president biya since I've known Cameroon.

I love the Cameroonians I've met in school back home in Nigeria. Most of the ones I knew were university of calabar students and they love life and fun. No time for quarrels. I guess that's the inherent DNA foe peace that makes it a lovely country, inspite of Mr Paul Biya.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 12:29pm On Jun 28, 2011
Pres elect we're one, one Africa, one love don't worry and we're neighbours so wink
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 12:39pm On Jun 28, 2011
As for Romeo and poverty in Cameroon you should re watch again before saying Cameroon is one of the poorest country in Africa, I think you don't really know Africa
Africa has its up and down everywhere but sorry the poorest countries in Africa many are from West Africa ( Mali, Burkina Faso, Guinea Conakry, )
http://www.geovic.net/cameroon_profile.php
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 3:39pm On Jun 29, 2011
(Reuters) – Debate over Cameroon President Paul Biya’s eligibility in an October presidential poll is stoking tensions in the central African state that could boil over into protests like those seen in 2008.

Biya’s rivals say the 78-year-old, one of Africa’s longest serving leaders, is bound to a 1996 constitution that would make his current 7-year term his last — despite an amendment he orchestrated in 2008 that removes term limits.

Over 40 people were killed and hundreds wounded in 2008 riots after the constitutional rejig.

The debate in Cameroon started after scholar Alain Didier Olinga published an essay in April picked up in Cameroonian newspapers that argued the revised 2008 constitution does not annul legal effects of the previous constitution, according to the legal principle known as non-retroactivity.

Many others have backed his argument, warning the country could be plunged into constitutional crisis if Biya insists on running — a charge Biya’s backers reject.

A similar issue in Senegal triggered riots last week, forcing octogenarian President Abdoulaye Wade to back down from proposed constitutional changes the opposition said would have eased his win in February polls.

“Just like in 2008, violent protests will probably be incited in the English-speaking regions of Cameroon, where Biya’s opposition is strongest,” said Oswald Felli, director of security risk assessments at Damina Advisors.

“A lot of Cameroonians feel President Paul Biya has outlived his usefulness and there is not much he can do for the country,” Felli said, but added that Biya may eventually manoeuvre his way into getting re-elected if he decides to run.

Biya has not said whether he will run but analysts say he is likely to try to extend his 29-year rule in the oil-producing state, a move that looks set to inflame public frustrations over his slow pace of reforms and tight grip on power.

Cameroon’s $22-billion economy is central Africa’s largest, but its 20 million people suffer from shoddy public services — including a lack of potable water and poor roads — and live on an average of around $3 per day.

“Cameroon appears especially susceptible to a massive popular uprising against its long-standing president,” Business Monitor International said in recent risk analysis.

“We believe the risks of a popular uprising…are still remote, but the government will nonetheless act aggressively to head off any potential ‘spark’ for unrest,” it said.

STOKING TENSIONS

The ruling CPDM party is planning a congress in July when it is expected that Biya will accept the party’s nomination as the “natural candidate” for the October poll.

Joshua Osih, a vice president of the main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front (SDF), said his party would ask Cameroon’s highest court to rule on Biya’s eligibility if he eventually decided to seek another mandate.

“It is without a shadow of a doubt that we will exploit this possibility,” Osih told the La Nouvelle Expression newspaper.

But Biya’s backers have rejected arguments against his eligibility, saying the adoption of the 2008 constitution repeals the 1996 constitution.

Opposition threats to launch the legal challenge are also likely to go nowhere, as Biya is believed to have strong influence over the courts.

Roddy Barclay, London-based analyst at Control Risks said challenges to the legality of Biya’s candidacy are likely to stoke political tensions but they are unlikely to stop Biya.

“In the event that the case went to the constitutional court, the ruling would be highly politicised and the judiciary would come under heavy pressure from Biya’s influential allies.”

Top brass from the ruling party have also moved to push back on perceived foreign pressure ahead of the election — after U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton wrote to Biya in May urging free and fair elections.

“Cameroon has no lesson to learn from outside on how to solve its problems,” ruling CPDM party secretary-general Rene Sadi told a recent rally.

Enjoy reading Nayah!!! Peaceful Cameroon indeed.

Source: http://www.cameroononline.org/2011/06/29/biyas-re-election-bid-stokes-tensions/
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by emofine(f): 4:35pm On Jun 29, 2011
I'm not necessarily convinced by some of the claims here but to use death as leverage is wrong and disrespectful. Casualties shouldn't be used as a means of scoring points.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by romeo(m): 8:37pm On Jun 29, 2011
To say the truth is not disrespectful, but lying is.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by Nayah(f): 10:00pm On Jun 29, 2011
Romeo have you read mine? really? if yes you would know this prove nothing, and you talking about 2008, you should inform you more cause since 2010 many things have changed (universities, memebers of governements, roads) I think instead of convicing yourself Cameroon is a desorganised country and insinuating I'am liar ( and I don't really understand your bitterness anyway) you should analyse more and especially better

Anyway Face and pres elect have said all and have answered my question which was geographic and not a excuse for "stability competition" or whatever, now if you wanna talk about this then right if not better talk to someone else I don't like disrespect and bitterness we suppose to be mature , hope I made that clear

Emofine don't worry sister these kind of arguments are not only not relevent but it's childish, I'm cameroonian by origins and might be better placed to talk about our realities than some people who think they know things more than the others. Cameroon is a peaceful country and thank God everyday it shows it, we have our problems, challenges like every other country but come on Cameroon is far from inter tribes troubles that unfortunately a lot of African countries are experiencing
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by upendo98(f): 7:04pm On Jul 02, 2011
Pretty interesting

Well Naya.I work in the African Devlpmnet Dprt of an International company and we have categorised Africa into regions.For all I know Cameroon is in Central Africa never been in the west.
You've got over 200 ethnic groups?? Jeez! was cameroon responsible for building the tower of babel??
And I thought my country had many tribes!!
Nway kudos.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by ezeagu(m): 8:23pm On Jul 02, 2011
Isn't it know as 'West Central Africa'?

South eastern Nigeria should have been part of Cameroon.
Re: Why Our English Speaking Brothers Think Cameroon Is A West African Country by odumchi: 1:16am On Jul 03, 2011
@ Nayah

I have a question, how did Camerounians cope when the nation was handed over from Germany to France? Did everyone have to learn French and forget German?

@ Alj Harem

I'm curious, no harm intended, is your mother the one of Igbo extraction or your father?

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