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Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:30pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Have you heard about offering a living sacrifice to God? |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 5:30pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. 1 Like
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Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 5:35pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:The more important question you to ask yourself is, did God command the Jews to give to Him a living sacrifice? God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, and all 613 commandments contained, are as detailed in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. What God ever desired of men has always been complete obedience of His Law and nothing more. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:37pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Image123: And I guess the lesson for Christians to learn today is to offer ourselves as living, not burnt sacrifices to God even though we don't know her name. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:42pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Do you know of anyone in the OT who consecrated their child in service to the Lord? |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:54pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: OLAADEGBU: MaxInDHouse: OLAADEGBU: MaxInDHouse: OLAADEGBU: MaxInDHouse: OLAADEGBU: MaxInDHouse: OLAADEGBU: NNTR:"Did Jephthah actually sacrifice his daughter to the Lord as a burnt offering?" You can't flow as a Watchtower student refused to spoon-feed you people with what we know. So you want to change the topic of discussion to Watchtower matter at least that one will make you flow! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 5:56pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:God did not describe the vowing of their kids in terms of making of sacrifices... again, take time to read through God's Old Covenant Law of Moses - Numbers 6 in particular- to learn what God commanded from the Jewish people- those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:04pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: We want to know what you've been spoon-fed about this subject since you always have a say on Christian topics. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 6:12pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:The bible 101 answer to this question is an emphatic NO, Jephthah actually did not sacrifice his daughter to the Lord as a burnt offering MaxInDHouse:I flow with the best Teacher in the whole wide world MaxInDHouse:I know it all sounds unbelievable to you, but I am not surprised because truth is sometimes stranger than fiction Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. 1 Like
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Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: Unless you people beg a JW for wisdom on the topic of discussion we will not TEACH you! Ṣebí you people say holy ghost is your teacher shey? Hen let's see how that holy ghost set matters straight in your midst, Jehovah's Witnesses have our own interpretation but i will not teach you people since you don't believe we know better than you do! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:14pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
NNTR:If so then why not tell your brethren in da lord not to ask from me since you guys know the answer? OLAADEGBU:I'm simply an observer in the thread! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:16pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Hannah and Manoah made vows to dedicate their children to the service of the Lord. Anna in particular dedicated her service to the Lord after she became a widow, she never remarried. There are also those who made themselves Eunuchs for God's service. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 6:18pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:You would need to ask the one who authored the letter to the Hebrews about that. Jephthah was a judge in Israel at the time of the incident so he was rightly included among other judges over the land in the book of Judges. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:19pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: That should be the first time you have nothing to say but to observe. 2 Likes |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: You're a great observer too for noticing that! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:22pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: I want to know how your Watchtower twisted this subject since that's what they are good at. I'm not expecting you to know any better. 3 Likes |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Keep lying to yourself! After saying: OLAADEGBU:Now because i refused to TEACH you guys you are saying: OLAADEGBU: I will not TEACH you people. I can see all of you dancing round without using the scriptures to back up your answers, but if i solve the riddle for you people using the full strength of the scriptures you won't say "Thank you" So keep answering yourselves i'm just an observer on this! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:I am afraid I don't follow your logic in this! God Himself specially vowed the Levites for service as well, but this He in no way cpmpared to the offering of sacrifices and burnt offerings which He also stipulated. Choosing to become a Eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of God is a choice one makes - no one is forced - in order to be better able to focus on God or the things of God. If a one who once chose to live a life as a Eunuch later decided to no longer live as such, there are no penalties against that, again since Jesus Christ stated that this was a choice permitted by God but ultimately to be made by the individual. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 6:33pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:Yes, all of the people of Israel were commanded by God to consecrate there first born sons for service in what turned out the Nation's army. God made that happen. He didn't compare them to the offering of burnt offerings or sacrifices. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by LordReed(m): 7:00pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: Your bible. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by LordReed(m): 7:01pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: Was she the first person to have remained a virgin to death? |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 7:42pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:It is flawed reasoning to compare Abraham's attempt at a human sacrifice to Jephthah's sacrificing of his daughter. God Himself commanded Abraham, who was not an Israelite by the way, to sacrifice Isaac to Him, however, God declared an abomination, the sacrificing of individuals, this in His Covenant with Israel, so Jephthah's sacrifice was against God's commandments to His people. As for intervention by God, apart from the case of Isaac, I don't believe there are records of God intervening any of the many other times the children of Israel turned their backs on him to carry out human sacrificing. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 7:59pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Want to learn more about you from your answer MaxInDHouse:Yup good call, sit back, watch, listen, observe and learn then Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
NNTR: Of course i learn through listening! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 8:12pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:I plead, ignorance and biblical illiteracy, on their behalf Kobojunkie:You are arguing over an event that never happened Kobojunkie:The records of the children of Israel turning their backs on God to carry out human sacrificing are about the burning offerings done for deities and not to God The punishment for indulging, practising or successfully carrying out human sacrifice in the name of God, or using a human being as a burning offering to God is death Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 8:17pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Good, as being ignorant is not as much a shame, as being unwilling to learn is, especially when you have a quiet a lot to learn Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Following! |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 8:17pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
If deity A declared, " I do not want human sacrifices" but man A claimed he offered a human sacrifice to deity A, was the sacrifice in question really to deity A who explicitly stated He would want none of that or was it instead to man A's delusion aka an idol of his imagining? |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:24pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:The first step to resolve this is by asking: How did God instruct the Israelites to offer the BURNT OFFERINGS? What is the significance of BURNT OFFERINGS? What part of the sacrifice does the one offering BURNT OFFERINGS take as his share? I'll stop here for now! 1 Like |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 8:31pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Give a list of human beings, successfully offered as burning sacrifices and explicitly stated and expressed as having done the sacrifice to God or in the name of God Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Kobojunkie: 8:36pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
NNTR:How can one "successfully" offer a human being as a burning sacrifice to deity A who absolutely rejected all associations with such things? |
Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by NNTR: 10:02pm On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:You are on point. Yeah. No one can, no one, not even Abraham, not even Jephthah, has "successfully" offered a human being as a burning sacrifice to God who absolutely rejected all associations with such things Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. 1 Like |
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