OLAADEGBU:

Do you want to find out?

Have you been there?

MaxInDHouse:


Have you been there?

You will have to offer yourself as a dead sacrifice to get there. Do you still want to get there?

OLAADEGBU:

See how a cult would so brainwash a people to believe that they would not go to heaven and they swallowed it hook line and sinker.

After arguing blindly then:

OLAADEGBU:

You will have to offer yourself as a dead sacrifice to get there. Do you still want to get there?

When i already told you i have nothing to do there!

Simple and straightforward: Kumuyi taught you guys nothing!

MaxInDHouse:


After arguing blindly then:



When i already told you i have nothing to do there!

Simple and straightforward: Kumuyi taught you guys nothing!

Busybody. When you knew you have no business in heaven why enquire from me what they do there?

OLAADEGBU:

Busybody. When you knew you have no business in heaven why enquire from me what they do there?

You quoted me and typed this:

OLAADEGBU:

See how a cult would so brainwash a people to believe that they would not go to heaven and they swallowed it hook line and sinker.

That's why i asked you what they're doing there nah!

MaxInDHouse:
Can you just quote a verse that says those going to heaven will still come back to live on the earth?

Revelation 5:8-10
'8And when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb (Christ),
each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of fragrant incense, which are the prayers of the saints (God’s people).
9And they sang a new song [of glorious redemption], saying,
“Worthy and deserving are You to take the scroll and to break its seals;
for You were slain (sacrificed), and with Your blood You purchased people for God
from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10“You have made them to be a kingdom [of royal subjects] and priests to our God;
and they will reign on the earth.”'

Revelation 21:5
'And He who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.”
Also He said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”'

Revelation 21:5, tells you everything will be made brand new, while Revelation 5:10, says we not only still come back to live on the earth but come live to reign on earth, meaning be a monarch. Praise be to God for that.

This life is all about circle(s) even with cycle(s). We are returning back to Eden. We are not only saved from eternal destruction and damnation, redeemed from sin and reconciled with God, but we also are reconciled back to Eden as well

I am sure you know that, there is no verse whatsoever, in the Bible, that says anything, about 'going to heaven' however there verse(s) about come back to live on the earth. I reiterate, there's not even one passage in the Bible that talks about 'going to heaven' after death or even otherwise. Meaning that, your phrase 'go or going to heaven' about or after death doesn’t appear anywhere in the Bible, whether you search Old Testament or New Testament. Not once

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus categorically says that few of his disciples will inherit heaven {Matthew 5:3} while the rest will inherit the earth! Matthew 5:5

Matthew 5:3-12
'3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.'

May I kindly refer you to see from the Beatitudes above, what correctly Matthew 5:3 says, which is, it states that:
'Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven'

Now, no where in Matthew 5:3, did Jesus ever, categorically say that, few of his disciples will inherit heaven, but on the contrary, what Jesus said, is 'Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven' meaning that, the kingdom of heaven is not for the haughty in spirit.

Lets explore and discuss Matthew 5:3b.
What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK, knowledge is what matters to us not material possessions! Luke 18:18-23

Proverbs 4:7
'The beginning of wisdom is: Get [skillful and godly] wisdom [it is preeminent]!
And with all your acquiring, get understanding
[actively seek spiritual discernment, mature comprehension, and logical interpretation].'

Proverbs 8:11
'For wisdom is better than rubies;
And all desirable things cannot compare with her.'

Knowledge does not function, as a single unit, in fact knowledge without intelligence and wisdom is not good enough. Case in point, compare Eve, with king Solomon.

Getting wisdom is the most important thing you can do. Whatever else you get, get insight, with all your effort, work to get understanding of it.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Revelation 5:8-10
'8And when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb (Christ),
each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of fragrant incense, which are the prayers of the saints (God’s people).
9And they sang a new song [of glorious redemption], saying,
“Worthy and deserving are You to take the scroll and to break its seals;
for You were slain (sacrificed), and with Your blood You purchased people for God
from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10“You have made them to be a kingdom [of royal subjects] and priests to our God;
and they will reign on the earth.”'

Revelation 21:5
'And He who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.”
Also He said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”'

Revelation 21:5, tells you everything will be made brand new, while Revelation 5:10, says we not only still come back to live on the earth but come live to reign on earth, meaning be a monarch. Praise be to God for that.

This life is all about circle(s) even with cycle(s). We are returning back to Eden. We are not only saved from eternal destruction and damnation, redeemed from sin and reconciled with God, but we also are reconciled back to Eden as well

I am sure you know that, there is no verse whatsoever, in the Bible, that says anything, about 'going to heaven' however there verse(s) about come back to live on the earth. I reiterate, there's not even one passage in the Bible that talks about 'going to heaven' after death or even otherwise. Meaning that, your phrase 'go or going to heaven' about or after death doesn’t appear anywhere in the Bible, whether you search Old Testament or New Testament. Not once

Matthew 5:3-12
'3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.'

May I kindly refer you to see from the Beatitudes above, what correctly Matthew 5:3 says, which is, it states that:
'Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven'

Now, no where in Matthew 5:3, did Jesus ever, categorically say that, few of his disciples will inherit heaven, but on the contrary, what Jesus said, is 'Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven' meaning that, the kingdom of heaven is not for the haughty in spirit.

Lets explore and discuss Matthew 5:3b.
What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven

Proverbs 4:7
'The beginning of wisdom is: Get [skillful and godly] wisdom [it is preeminent]!
And with all your acquiring, get understanding
[actively seek spiritual discernment, mature comprehension, and logical interpretation].'

Proverbs 8:11
'For wisdom is better than rubies;
And all desirable things cannot compare with her.'

Knowledge does not function, as a single unit, in fact knowledge without intelligence and wisdom is not good enough. Case in point, compare Eve, with king Solomon.

Getting wisdom is the most important thing you can do. Whatever else you get, get insight, with all your effort, work to get understanding of it.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

So if there's no where the Bible explicitly stated that people are going to heaven then what makes you think everyone must believe in going to heaven?

MaxInDHouse:
Only BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ were told to do this since they are going to join him in heaven and never coming back to have anything to do with life in the flesh.
So they don't need children since their eternity will be in heaven with Christ.

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MaxInDHouse:
So if there's no where the Bible explicitly stated that people are going to heaven then what makes you think everyone must believe in going to heaven?

There's no where the Bible explicitly stated that people are going to heaven and to forever stay there in heaven

I have shown how, you not just incorrectly quoted Matthew 5:3, but also showed how you gave a false or misleading account of the text

Why are you shying from letting us, explore and discuss Matthew 5:3b in toto?
What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:

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There's no where the Bible explicitly stated that people are going to heaven and to forever stay there in heaven

I have shown how, you not just incorrectly quoted Matthew 5:3, but also showed how you gave a false or misleading account of the text

Why are you shying from letting us, explore and discuss Matthew 5:3b in toto?
What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Jesus' PRIMARY assignment was to gather the co-rulers who will rule with him and train them on how to rule in righteousness.
That's why he said:

“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

This little flock (group) {Luke 12:32 compare to Matthew 19:28} will rule over the nation of Israel while the Israelites will take the good news of God's Kingdom to other nations of the earth! Zechariah 8:23

The capital city of God's kingdom on earth will be Jerusalem (Mount Zion) {Isaiah 2:3} so Jews were so proud of this privileged that they kept telling all other nations about their wonderful privileged, even Samaritans were jealous of this {John 4:19-22} do you notice that Jesus told the Samaritan woman that salvation originates with Jews?

Well they lost that privileged by killing most of God's prophets sent to them including the Messiah, that's why Jesus said they no longer worth such favor! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

After Jesus' declaration of woes on Jerusalem his disciples were confused and devastated as to what will happen to them if Jerusalem (their proposed City of glory) is doomed.
That's why Jesus told them that he is going to HEAVEN to prepare a place for them where they will stay to rule with him! John 14:1-3

So Jesus actually talked about taking few people to heaven that's why he concludes in his sermon on the mount by stating clearly.

“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens BELONGS to them" Matthew 5:3
Here the highlighted word (belong) indicates their favored condition of becoming heirs with Christ in heaven! Romans 8:17

“Happy are the MILD-TEMPERED, since they will inherit the earth" Matthew 5:5
The highlighted word (mild-tempered) could also be rendered (meek) the meek ones will inherit what God has promised {Psalms 37:11; Zephaniah 2:2-3} because they're HUMBLE and OBEDIENT to the BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ, so they will be permitted to live on Paradise earth which rulership will be in the hands of Jesus' Born Again brothers at that time! Luke 16:9

So FEW people are going to heaven and there they will stay with Jesus FOREVER:

because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord 1Thessalonians 4:16-17

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' PRIMARY assignment was to gather the co-rulers who will rule with him and train them on how to rule in righteousness.

Jesus' PRIMARY assignment were salvation, redemption and reconciliation

MaxInDHouse:
That's why he said:

“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

Jesus in the context of Matthew 15:24, was saying that He's sent to bring the Gospel to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. The Jews, essentially will have first serving, have first turn, as it were

MaxInDHouse:
This little flock (group) {Luke 12:32 compare to Matthew 19:28} will rule over the nation of Israel while the Israelites will take the good news of God's Kingdom to other nations of the earth! Zechariah 8:23

Luke 12:32
'Do not be afraid and anxious, little flock,
for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.'

What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven
If earth, is not already, part of the kingdom of heaven, will earth be part of the kingdom of heaven or not?

MaxInDHouse:
The capital city of God's kingdom on earth will be Jerusalem (Mount Zion) {Isaiah 2:3} so Jews were so proud of this privileged that they kept telling all other nations about their wonderful privileged, even Samaritans were jealous of this {John 4:19-22} do you notice that Jesus told the Samaritan woman that salvation originates with Jews?

Well they lost that privileged by killing most of God's prophets sent to them including the Messiah, that's why Jesus said they no longer worth such favor! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

After Jesus' declaration of woes on Jerusalem his disciples were confused and devastated as to what will happen to them if Jerusalem (their proposed City of glory) is doomed.
That's why Jesus told them that he is going to HEAVEN to prepare a place for them where they will stay to rule with him! John 14:1-3

So Jesus actually talked about taking few people to heaven that's why he concludes in his sermon on the mount by stating clearly.

“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens BELONGS to them" Matthew 5:3
Here the highlighted word (belong) indicates their favored condition of becoming heirs with Christ in heaven! Romans 8:17

“Happy are the MILD-TEMPERED, since they will inherit the earth" Matthew 5:5
The highlighted word (mild-tempered) could also be rendered (meek) the meek ones will inherit what God has promised {Psalms 37:11; Zephaniah 2:2-3} because they're HUMBLE and OBEDIENT to the BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ, so they will be permitted to live on Paradise earth which rulership will be in the hands of Jesus' Born Again brothers at that time! Luke 16:9

So FEW people are going to heaven and there they will stay with Jesus FOREVER:

because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord 1Thessalonians 4:16-17

Revelation 21:2
'1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,
for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.'

Whats the total number of your so called people who are going to heaven and there they will stay with Jesus FOREVER?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Jesus' PRIMARY assignment were salvation, redemption and reconciliation
Jesus in the context of Matthew 15:24, was saying that He's sent to bring the Gospel to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. The Jews, essentially will have first serving, have first turn, as it were

I hate blind arguments Sir.
Jesus emphatically said he wasn't sent to anyone except ISRAEL, so if you don't believe that it's not my business.

NNTR:

Luke 12:32
'Do not be afraid and anxious, little flock,
for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.'
What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven
If its not already, will earth be part of the kingdom of heaven or not?

In any kingdom the first to be recognized are the rulers before anyone can think of their citizens.
I already explained that God's kingdom doesn't mean heaven but a government under God's direction. Since the rulers who are the first set of the kingdom are to be stationed in heaven then heaven becomes the capital of God's Kingdom. Just as anyone talking about Nigeria will keep Abuja in mind since that's the sit of our government while all other part are under the control of Abuja.

NNTR:

Revelation 21:2
'1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,
for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.'
Whats the total number of your so called people who are going to heaven and there they will stay with Jesus FOREVER?

The number is highlighted below.

Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000 who have been bought from the earth! Revelations 14:1-3

Jesus made us understand that these supposed to be the number of ISRAELITES to rule with him in Jerusalem as 12,000 will be selected from each tribe {Revelations 7:5-8} but due to their failure God will select co-rulers for Christ from other nations {Matthew 22:8-10} Apostle Paul explained that there are spiritual Jews found in other nations so they're not natural Jews but because God chose them to become sons to Abraham {Romans 2:25-29 compare to Matthew 3:9} that's why the names listed @ Revelations 7:5-8 is not the same as the original twelve tribes of Israel! Exodus 1:2-5

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' PRIMARY assignment was to gather the co-rulers who will rule with him and train them on how to rule in righteousness.

1. Who are the co-rulers who will rule with Jesus that you say He will train them on how to rule in righteousness?
2. What is the total number of co-rulers, that's Jesus' PRIMARY assignment to gather so rule with Him and train them on how to rule in righteousness?

MaxInDHouse:
I hate blind arguments Sir.

This is a load of baloney because blind arguments is exactly what you seem enjoying and love to be doing here on this thread

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus emphatically said he wasn't sent to anyone except ISRAEL, so if you don't believe that it's not my business.

Even, if for the sake of argument, Jesus emphatically said He wasn't sent to anyone except ISRAEL, does that mean restricted the Gospel, God's plan of Salvation, Redemption and Reconciliation to only the Israelites?

MaxInDHouse:
In any kingdom the first to be recognized are the rulers before anyone can think of their citizens.
I already explained that God's kingdom doesn't mean heaven but a government under God's direction. Since the rulers who are the first set of the kingdom are to be stationed in heaven then heaven becomes the capital of God's Kingdom. Just as anyone talking about Nigeria will keep Abuja in mind since that's the sit of our government while all other part are under the control of Abuja.

1. What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven
2. If earth, is not already, part of the kingdom of heaven, will earth be part of the kingdom of heaven or not?

Do you find the above easy questions, difficult for you to reply back to with direct and straight forward answers? If not, then please give your replies to them head on nah

MaxInDHouse:
The number is highlighted below.

What the number represents and means is for now, a discussion for another moment

MaxInDHouse:
Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000 who have been bought from the earth! Revelations 14:1-3

Playing along with you, I am sure you can safely rule yourself out of any chance of being part of the 144,000, meaning that, if you're honest with yourself, you would be the first to admit that, you are not ever going to be among the 144,000

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus made us understand that these supposed to be the number of ISRAELITES to rule with him in Jerusalem as 12,000 will be selected from each tribe {Revelations 7:5-8} but due to their failure God will select co-rulers for Christ from other nations {Matthew 22:8-10} Apostle Paul explained that there are spiritual Jews found in other nations so they're not natural Jews but because God chose them to become sons to Abraham {Romans 2:25-29 compare to Matthew 3:9} that's why the names listed @ Revelations 7:5-8 is not the same as the original twelve tribes of Israel! Exodus 1:2-5

Revelation 7:4-8
'4And I heard how many were marked with the seal of God—144,000 were sealed from all the tribes of Israel:
5from Judah 12,000
from Reuben 12,000
from Gad 12,000
6from Asher 12,000
from Naphtali 12,000
from Manasseh 12,000
7from Simeon 12,000
from Levi 12,000
from Issachar 12,000
8from Zebulun 12,000
from Joseph 12,000
from Benjamin 12,000'

Its absolutely illogical and ridiculous, prooftexting Matthew 22:8-10 with Revelation 7:4-8 because of your dire desperation to appeal to your eisegesis

1. Who specifically, give the names, the tribes of the Israelites that failed to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ
2. How, in full details, did the Israelites, from your answer in question 1 above, fail to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ?
i.e. Explain, say in what way and manner exactly, the reasons that made the tribes of the Israelites fail to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I think you just want to argue so keep your opinion while i keep mine!

NNTR:
1. Who are the co-rulers who will rule with Jesus that you say He will train them on how to rule in righteousness?
2. What is the total number of co-rulers, that's Jesus' PRIMARY assignment to gather so rule with Him and train them on how to rule in righteousness?

This is a load of baloney because blind arguments is exactly what you seem enjoying and love to be doing here on this thread

Even, if for the sake of argument, Jesus emphatically said He wasn't sent to anyone except ISRAEL, does that mean restricted the Gospel, God's plan of Salvation, Redemption and Reconciliation to only the Israelites?

1. What to your understanding is/are the distinction(s) between heaven and the kingdom of heaven?
Compare and contrast heaven and the kingdom of heaven
2. If earth, is not already, part of the kingdom of heaven, will earth be part of the kingdom of heaven or not?

Do you find the above easy questions, difficult for you to reply back to with direct and straight forward answers? If not, then please give your replies to them head on nah

What the number represents and means is for now, a discussion for another moment

Playing along with you, I am sure you can safely rule yourself out of any chance of being part of the 144,000, meaning that, if you're honest with yourself, you would be the first to admit that, you are not ever going to be among the 144,000

Revelation 7:4-8
'4And I heard how many were marked with the seal of God—144,000 were sealed from all the tribes of Israel:
5from Judah 12,000
from Reuben 12,000
from Gad 12,000
6from Asher 12,000
from Naphtali 12,000
from Manasseh 12,000
7from Simeon 12,000
from Levi 12,000
from Issachar 12,000
8from Zebulun 12,000
from Joseph 12,000
from Benjamin 12,000'

Its absolutely illogical and ridiculous, prooftexting Matthew 22:8-10 with Revelation 7:4-8 because of your dire desperation to appeal to your eisegesis

1. Who specifically, give the names, the tribes of the Israelites that failed to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ
2. How, in full details, did the Israelites, from your answer in question 1 above, fail to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ?
i.e. Explain, say in what way and manner exactly, the reasons that made the tribes of the Israelites fail to produce the fruit, needed to be chosen as corulers with the Christ

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
[s]I think you just want to argue so keep your opinion while i keep mine! [/s]

2 Corinthians 10:5
'We are destroying sophisticated arguments
and every exalted and proud thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God,
and we are taking every thought and purpose captive to the obedience of Christ,'

You know when your goose is cooked. You know when your little blind argument game is being rumbled. You couldn't stand up your opinions in front of the coming presence of facts, so you collapsed, as the pressure was mounting

Proud men will be brought low, arrogant men will be humiliated by innocent, harmless, not dangerous questions
Yes, its our work, soft work, in demolishing blind arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Beware of false knowledge. It is more dangerous than ignorance and a false sense of security silence

Do not hold the delusion that your silence and refusal to reply those those easy, simple and innocent questions has accomplished you anything good or saved you from their crushing blows

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You don win no further arguments Sir!

NNTR:
2 Corinthians 10:5
'We are destroying sophisticated arguments
and every exalted and proud thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God,
and we are taking every thought and purpose captive to the obedience of Christ,'

You know when your goose is cooked. You know when your little blind argument game is being rumbled. You couldn't stand up your opinions in front of the coming presence of facts, so you collapsed, as the pressure was mounting

Proud men will be brought low, arrogant men will be humiliated by innocent, harmless, not dangerous questions
Yes, its our work, soft work, in demolishing blind arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Beware of false knowledge. It is more dangerous than ignorance and a false sense of security silence

Do not hold the delusion that your silence and refusal to reply those those easy, simple and innocent questions has accomplished you anything good or saved you from their crushing blows

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
You don win no further arguments Sir!

Its vain, to think its about winning anything.

I dont do arguments, I dont argue, I present fact and figures. I present pieces of raw unpleasant and sharply clear information about something like this here, whats caused you to take refuge in becoming silent.

Being different from you, I dont, without advance warnings, give opinions, regurgitated presuppositions, conjectures or eisegesis

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Its vain, to think its about winning anything.

I dont do arguments, I dont argue, I present fact and figures. I present pieces of raw unpleasant and sharply clear information about something like this here, whats caused you to take refuge in becoming silent.

Being different from you, I dont, without advance warnings, give opinions, regurgitated presuppositions, conjectures or eisegesis

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Thank you Sir!

MaxInDHouse:


You quoted me and typed this:



That's why i asked you what they're doing there nah!

Why ask about what they do in heaven since you have been indoctrinated that you are not destined to go there?

MaxInDHouse:


After arguing blindly then:



When i already told you i have nothing to do there!

Simple and straightforward: Kumuyi taught you guys nothing!

You have nothing to do in heaven but you will want to discourage others from going there, no?