Ivvie:

Tsunami, Katrina etc is an indication that these last few days are critical. I won't waste my time with her as scripture declares : Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Lol. . . again I want to deeply than you for assuming I'm a "dog" and "swine" unto whom you can't waste time casting your "pearls". I should say again that I admire your mildness - and congratulate you. Any more?

Ivvie:

Everybody seeks the truth, one way or the other in today's time. This is a period where the truth is demanded in every phase of life. From Desert Storm to Enron, Exxon CEO to the Texas State University president. The time has passed when people did not care or were less concerned.

That is why we're demanding requesting you to defend what you are trying to parade as "truth" in today's time. People are not less concerned, as you said; but if you make statements and call them "truth", and yet cannot stand by them with a clear pointer to God's WORD, what do you call that?

Ivvie:

It is true that nothing sensible will come from her. I will stay away.

No, nothing "sensible" would pass from me to you - seeing you've taken the position of co-accuser to soothe your nerves on false premises. I do wish you'd come back and clarify the fallacies which you connect to God's Name and WORD. Failing to do so only shows you up for what you truly are. Don't sob, just be honest.

Hello pligrim and ivvie,
it's nice meeting you guys .

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit abide with us all (AMEN).

Good bye

Nice meeting you as well, car-dealer. Cheers.

Bible is clear: Man should not wear what a woman wears
and a woman should not wear what a man wears

If I quote the bible I hope some wont say we are not under the law.

What law Judged Cain as a Murderer?

Answer The Law Of Love.

If you Like, Force a man to wear skirt to work in Africa. Besides a womans body Must be Covered The shorts we see nowadays are an apology to the word "COVER YOUR unclothedness"

Why is it the woman not the man?

soon the men will dress like the women you wait and see. and the people will say it is there right!

do you wear t-shirts Backslider? Do women you know in your family who are Christians wear t-shirts?

but seriously, why are you bringing cultural interpretations into this issue? Whether 'Africans' approve of something is not the issue here, the scots wear skirts to work, even in Canada it is becoming a new rave among men to wear kilts with many pockets for their tools

where have you seen it defined that 'trousers' in whatever form are strictly for men and not women? The issue here is not about shorts or whatever, the issue is about trousers in general and let us limit it to that.

PS men dress like women already and vice versa, those people are known as 'cross-dressers', 'drag queens' and 'transvestites', it would do you good to look up the meaning of these words and see that wearing trousers is not a case of 'wearing what a man wears', unless of course, the person is trying to appear as a man/change his/her gender by appearance.

Yes I know that people are already on there way to hell by the route of Sodomy call it what English you like.

You can even take to wearing Glasses also. The word of the Lord Standeth Sure.

tell us what the 'word of the Lord is' and stop all this pontificating

This is exactly what pilgrim 1 is talking about, people coming to make assertions that they won't/ more likely can't back up.

Its a pity that the instruction Paul on always being ready to explain your faith is lost on some of y'all.

Debosky,



             I'm no madam.  No disrespect, bible's are sold.  Purchase one and meditate diligently.  If you have one, make sure it's KJV.  If not, you are far from the truth.  Meet people (if you desire the truth) and the truth will surface.  Every question in life has an answer in the bible.  If you can't understand it then you won't.

I have bibles thank you, and this is a forum for meeting people, so we can share the insights we have received from the bible to build each other up.

So through this meeting I'm hoping the truth will surface

Every question has an answer for sure, but sometimes we need to see things from other's perspective and learn from their own experiences

that is what I request, Sir Ivvie

@ Debosky

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV) - The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (NIV) A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

debosky:

I have bibles thank you, and this is a forum for meeting people, so we can share the insights we have received from the bible to build each other up.

So through this meeting I'm hoping the truth will surface

Every question has an answer for sure, but sometimes we need to see things from other's perspective and learn from their own experiences

that is what I request, Sir Ivvie

Sure enough, you're not getting it from me.   The truth will find you if you really need it.

WELL LETS NOT START COTING SCPRITURES TO SUIT OURSELVES WHAT HAS CHRISTAINITY TURNED TO? AS FOR ME I LOVE WEARING TROUSERS AND AM COMFORTABLE IN THEM, I DRESS DECENTLY AND WEAR CLOTHES ACCORDINGLY BUT PLACING A BAN HOW MANY FEMALES WILL OBEY?
God sees our heart not our clothes for pitsakes

@backslider

Yes I know that people are already on there way to hell by the route of Sodomy call it what English you like.

What are you saying? You don de judge people before God because they practice things that doesn't blend with you?

Am sure if person see you for real life, them go see things wey fit make them talk say u b sodomite. Don't judge others unecessarily. You talk say make woman no wear trousers abi? So make all police women wear skirt de pursue thief or all female soldiers wear skirt go fight for iraq abi? Mr Man, certain situations provide for certain drastic measures. If Adeboye's church talk say make them no wear trouser enter hin church, which one come be anybody own to de vex. Them force them go the church?  Does that mean when certain situations crop up for women to wear trousers due to official or occupational reasons, they shouldn't wear it? Abeg no confuse girls wey de wear trousers do yanga for boys and women who wear it for a purpose.

You can even take to wearing Glasses also.

bros i no understand this yan o! Shey to wear glass na sin again? Abeg enlighten me o!  I don de confuse for your yans o!

Backslider I have seen the scripture you quoted, thanks a lot

now can you do us a favor and explain where exactly trousers were defined as strictly the clothes of men, and skirts the clothes of women alone?

Thanks

@backslider

Debosky don ask you question. We de wait o! and no forget my own question about glass. Na dat one gon gon concern me

No run o! no backslide now o! After you answer our question, you fit backslide

I think ladies has use wearing of Trousers as another medium of show up and give it another taught of advertising themselves rather than decency.

Meanwhile, the wearing of the aforementioned did not just started even in the Redeem churches but ladies has esscessfully undermine the fact that they are in the church where there are doctrines.

Prince22:

I think ladies has use wearing of Trousers as another medium of show up and give it another taught of advertising themselves rather than decency.

Meanwhile, the wearing of the aforementioned did not just started even in the Redeem churches but ladies has esscessfully undermine the fact that they are in the church where there are doctrines .

Bros no vex o! We de quarrel before? but which one be all this bullet you de use shoot us. You be Rambo? E de hard us understand wetin your point be o?

You fit please come down small to our level? Thank you! Don't mention!

Orobo 50cl,

We are not talking of Grammar here but to understand the issue at hand

Talk of the trend not grammar

Rgds.

WHAT HAS TROUSER GOT TO D WITH CHRISTAINITY, OLD GENERATION FAITHS, IF IT IS A SIN FOR GIRLS TO WEAR TORUSERS,THEN IT IS ALSO SIN FOR MEN TO WEAR SUIT,AGBADA AND SPORT WEAR,BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS IN THE BIBLE, PLS LETS NOT TURN THE BIBLE UPSIDE DOWN. BABA ADEBOYE SHOULD NOT LISTEN TO WHOM EVER HAS ADVICED THAT DECISION, BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT ADVICE SUCH,I KNOW GOD LOVES HIS CHILDREN AND SEES THE HAPPINESS IN THEIR FACE WHEN THEY WEAR TROUSERS THAT MAKES THEM COMFORTABLE. LETS NOT MIX RELIGION AND TRADITION.IT JUST WONT WORK. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THOSE WHO CONDEMN GIRLS THAT WEARS TROUSER ARE EVEN MORE INDECENT OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. PLS TROUSER SHOULDNT BE AN ISSUE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD,BECAUSE IT IS THE FASHION FOR NOW GIRLS,PLS DO NOT TAKE IT FROM THEM, BUT U CAN MAKE THEM DRESS DECENT WITH IT.


I READ FROM THIS THREAD, THAT THERE ARE 2 GENERATIONS OF REDEEMERS, WHY? I DO NOT GET IT.

MAY GOD BLESS BABA ADEBOYE AND PLS SIR ALLOW UR NEW GENERATION GIRLS, WHO ARE DESIRING TO WORSHIP GOD, COS DATS ALL DEV GAT,IN THEIR WARDROPE, NO MONEY FOR SHOPPING NEW CLOTHS SIR, PLS SIR AV A CHANGE OF MIND.

are these Churches becoming [size=14pt]Sects[/size]? Thats what alls gonna turn out to be just like the old testament isrealites they dont want to be. all these laws - is it laws Jesus told us about or righteousness and faith?

good news,but what as faith got todo with attires.

attires affect thinking, it gives an impression. let's take an example from the bible, moses fled from egypt after killing a man, he helped some shepherd ladies; they got home early when their father asked how come, the shepherd ladies answered that "an egyptian helped us" the question here is was moses an egyptian? answer is no,why was moses then called an egyptian by people who have not met him before? answer is he was dressed in egyptian attire.

wendymanda: Wow. So silly

what has silly got to do with this

lovemajek: good news,but what as faith got todo with attires.

Attire has a lot to do with faith. Attire can lead feeble minded people to commit rape. Attire can arouse a man's interest to have sex with a woman likewise a woman. We are all human beings. Do not give satan the chance. The bible did not make mistake in preaching against it. Please do not tempt me so that I may not follow you to your hell fire.

InCar_Nav: sorry - it is in the mind/attitude - the spirit - not in the attire.

atires matters because it is done on our body, don't you knw that ourbody is the temple of the Holy ghost? and thats where the spirit of the LORD dwells

anyaogu luke:
Attire has a lot to do with faith. Attire can lead feeble minded people to commit rape. Attire can arouse a man's interest to have sex with a woman likewise a woman. We are all human beings. Do not give satan the chance. The bible did not make mistake in preaching against it. Please do not tempt me so that I may not follow you to your hell fire.

don't spoil your word with your conclusion

holypower:


atires matters because it is done on our body, don't you knw that ourbody is the temple of the Holy ghost? and thats where the spirit of the LORD dwells

people are dying without Jesus, some can hardly feed their families, others are heartbroken, we have many orphans and widows in our midst, multitudes addicted to all sorts, and you and your Pharisee friends are here talking about dress ?

hypocrites !!

frosbel:

people are dying without Jesus, some can hardly feed their families, others are heartbroken, we have many orphans and widows in our midst, multitudes addicted to all sorts, and you and your Pharisee friends are here talking about dress ?

hypocrites !!

you are a good man.some pple think christianity is advanced judaism with their legalistic rules.even those who don't wear trouser,where is christ in them?the new covenant is completely different from the old religion of rules n legalism under the law but these pple n their preachers don't understand christianity,they mix judaism with christ n make void the cross.shall we therefore continue to dress like a prosti.tutes?God forbid.our new covenant standard is moderation for one man eats n is not condemned n another man doesn't eat n is not condemned also.let not he that doesn't eat condemn the one that eat.there's no condemnation for those who are in christ only when they don;t walk after the flesh,not when they wear or don't wear trouser.keep tearing down all these religion in christianity.God help u by his grace.

flourishG: you are a good man.some pple think christianity is advanced judaism with their legalistic rules.even those who don't wear trouser,where is christ in them?the new covenant is completely different from the old religion of rules n legalism under the law but these pple n their preachers don't understand christianity,they mix judaism with christ n make void the cross.shall we therefore continue to dress like a prosti.tutes?God forbid.our new covenant standard is moderation for one man eats n is not condemned n another man doesn't eat n is not condemned also.let not he that doesn't eat condemn the one that eat.there's no condemnation for those who are in christ only when they don;t walk after the flesh,not when they wear or don't wear trouser.keep tearing down all these religion in christianity.God help u by his grace.

One thing is to preach, another thing is for God to be in support of what you are preaching. If you preach and at the end it turns out that God does not support your teaching, then you will be of all men most miserable(God forbid). Bible is a wonderful book and everybody is interpreting it the way he or she likes or understands but at the judgment throne, it is the interpretation that conforms with God's interpretation that matters. Dont sound as if you know it all and you have the perfect interpretation. God help us all. Amen.

alexleo:

One thing is to preach, another thing is for God to be in support of what you are preaching. If you preach and at the end it turns out that God does not support your teaching, then you will be of all men most miserable(God forbid). Bible is a wonderful book and everybody is interpreting it the way he or she likes or understands but at the judgment throne, it is the interpretation that conforms with God's interpretation that matters. Dont sound as if you know it all and you have the perfect interpretation. God help us all. Amen.

brother,u a good man.i can see that.my concern is,the new covenant is completely different and totally different from the old which is the religion of judaism.there's not one single verse 'under the new covenant' that says wear this don't wear that.all we have is moderation.many christian trynna mix judaism with christianity n that's where i hv problem with them judaizers n legalistic teachers.i don't like quoting bible verse but if demanded n needed, i will.teach them christians to understand their new n better covenant rather than trynna understand the old,judaism and religion of da jewish sysyetem n u will see folks flow in da grace n life of christ.does the making rules n law means pple will stop sinning?when there's no law,there will be nothing to break n therefore,when there is no law to break, you cannot have anyone to be called a sinner because sin is the breaking of law,remove law,then you remove sinning.that's apostolic doctrine right there!

flourishG: you are a good man.some pple think christianity is advanced judaism with their legalistic rules.even those who don't wear trouser,where is christ in them?the new covenant is completely different from the old religion of rules n legalism under the law but these pple n their preachers don't understand christianity,they mix judaism with christ n make void the cross.shall we therefore continue to dress like a prosti.tutes?God forbid.our new covenant standard is moderation for one man eats n is not condemned n another man doesn't eat n is not condemned also.let not he that doesn't eat condemn the one that eat.there's no condemnation for those who are in christ only when they don;t walk after the flesh,not when they wear or don't wear trouser.keep tearing down all these religion in christianity.God help u by his grace.

what we wear, whatever that is done in the body matters once it is the temple of the Holy Spirit

holypower:

what we wear, whatever that is done in the body matters once it is the temple of the Holy Spirit

you talking but saying nothing.yes da body is temple of holy spirit.no dispute.show verses in da new covenant where wearing trouser is sin dats all.or don't u know da old is different from da new n dat christianity is different from Judaism?