pilgrim.1:

Besides, the wearing of trousers or not is not the issue at all. We've come a long way to establishing the fact that "trousers" were never mentioned in Scripture - and only men have tried to read it into the Bible. The basic principle is simply that men should not dress like women, and women should not dress like men! It has nothing to do with anyone wearing trousers.

pilgrim.1:

I think you've clearly mixed up issues here. The proclamation that 'thy desire shall be to thy husband' does not translate into "Women will always desire a man's status"! That simply takes the whole matter away from the WORD while quoting from it.

What really is the status of a man? Do men even know what their "status" is? That verse was not discussing a woman's desire to a man's status. It simply says her desire shall be to her husband - which simply points to fellowship.

Besides, the wearing of trousers or not is not the issue at all. We've come a long way to establishing the fact that "trousers" were never mentioned in Scripture - and only men have tried to read it into the Bible. The basic principle is simply that men should not dress like women, and women should not dress like men! It has nothing to do with anyone wearing trousers.

Ivvie:

@ seun001

It's all good. What I stated is only the surface. [b] All women that wear trousers too have the spirit of incubus in them and around them. It's also the reason why they have difficulty giving birth and dying when trying to conceive. [/b]Women in the United States are dying from childbirth. Science itself will rear its ugly head and try to offer a solution. Compare the countenance of whom that wears trousers to the person that doesn't. The difference is clear.


Peace!

Ivvie:

@ seun001

It's all good. What I stated is only the surface. All women that wear trousers too have the spirit of incubus in them and around them. It's also the reason why they have difficulty giving birth and dying when trying to conceive. Women in the United States are dying from childbirth. Science itself will rear its ugly head and try to offer a solution. Compare the countenance of whom that wears trousers to the person that doesn't. The difference is clear.


Peace!

seun001:




now i think u are taking this too far,so u are trying to input what not necessarily there.u are insinuating that women wearing trousers is directly related to their suffering.i beg to disagree.don't have enough time to reply mayb later.

Ivvie:

Ms. Pilgrim


nb: Society is the building block of families. A husband to a family is a man to the society. The same applies to a wife in a particular family. There is no reference to fellowship anywhere.

In the bible days, they were called breeches. If you are walk and live by the bible, you'll understand that some words need to be looked up as you meditate. Besides the King James Version, you should always reflect to the greek and the Hebrew references to pin-point the initial meaning to certain scriptural references. Your level of the WORD is plain. The WORD is new every morning and dynamic in revelation. Depending on your level of prayer (prayer life) and revelation, WORD is coded and interpreted differently. When you are into the supernatural, things become different and many things that meant the world to you become useless and needless. It's what the white man calls vain or vanity. The verse in Genesis is not limited to fellowship (as a matter of fact, I don't see where it denotes fellowship because it's a curse being placed at that point and there is no harmony in a curse). You simply have no understanding of that scripture. It is deep - meditate on it and you'll find out that God doesn't play. Eve's action was so hearty; to defy what God had said and bound her within the constaints of man in mankind. To add what I stated in the last post, 7 women would take hold of a man and make clear how independent they'll be but would want the man's last name so that they wouldn't bear reproach. "And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man saying, We will eat our own bread and wear our own apparel; only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach." This has come to pass. Today's woman seeks to be the career type neglecting the family's priority and the role Paul clearly states. The pants too is their own apparel that they have designed after their own hearts. I'm not a people's person nor do I socialise or mix with people but I keep hearing women say "Men are hard to find these days." Besides the fact that I easily get irritated, the truth of the fact in life is that issues, troubles or afflictions don't arise from the dust. They all have roots and the open gates enforce the roots to ensure that they remain perpetual. It may sound wierd but this is true. There are some problems in life that the prayer of a woman cannot resolve. Talk to your pastor or intercessor. The authority of a woman isn' strong enough to negotiate the principles to get the desired result. You will need a man and the issue can be resolved sometimes with a simple prayer or combined prayer. It is a level of prayer.

As for the whole confusion, I blame Christians, not the ungodly or the perversed. The fear of the Lord is what makes nations sit up. It is obvious that when the elements of the earth was being reprogrammed, Christians had no spirit of judgement to cancel the understanding and render the counsel void. However, they complained and probably enjoyed it. 50 years later, it's has a sub section on nairaland and also a political issue of conservatism and liberalism. The anointing of Jehu needs to be reinstated to rid the earth of the current generational wickedness.


^{What really is the status of a man? Do men even know what their "status" is? That verse was not discussing a woman's desire to a man's status. It simply says her desire shall be to her husband - which simply points to fellowship.}

I'll explain this to you. Marinate it with common sense. When your husband (supposedly) says something and you say the other - or - you fight him or nag at him, what is that suppose to mean? It's simply the Eve in you. God laid a rule, Eve did hers because she taught she was smarter. The same too with your husband you might think you are smarter so, you nag, fight and sometimes make a full of yourself.


I'm not here to stir discord or hatred neither am I begging to be friends with me. Let nobody see this as a hate speech. I usually don't talk about this but to close personal friends and my Christian brothers and sisters that care to give an ear.

There are some problems in life that the prayer of a woman cannot resolve. Talk to your pastor or intercessor. The authority of a woman isn' strong enough to negotiate the principles to get the desired result. You will need a man and the issue can be resolved sometimes with a simple prayer or combined prayer. It is a level of prayer.

car-dealer:

HELLO,
LET'S HAVE A LITTLE BIBLE STUDY NOW.

PLEASE USE A KING JAMES BIBLE VERSION FOR THIS STUDY (IT'S THE ORIGINAL TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE FROM THE ANCIENT LANGUAGES).
THANKS.

car-dealer:

1ST TIMOTHY 4:12; DEUTERONOMY 22:5; LUKE16:15; 1ST CORINTHIANS 6:9-10; MATTHEW 5:17-20; 24:35: REVELATION 21:27 (NOTE THESE WORDS: ABOMINATION AND EFFEMINATE- YOU CAN DO A FURTHER STUDY OF THOSE WORDS ON YOUR OWN).

CHECK: www.tbaptist.com/aab/lizgraf.htm

SELAH!

Ivvie:

Harper Collins is the author of New International Version. Harper Collins is also the author of the satanic bible and the joy of gay sex. The NIV is another bible of it's own and makes abominable references to the deity of Christ and encourages homosexuality. I don't understand how people decide to marinate themselves in such. In Isa 14.12, the NIV declares Lucifer as Jesus. This is flat wrong and cannot be made right.

Other translations are not exempted. A version says David did not kill Goliath. The TNIV is even worse. Funny enough, all bibles are copyrighted except the KJV.

Ivvie:

nb: Society is the building block of families.  A husband to a family is a man to the society.  The same applies to a wife in a particular family.  There is no reference to fellowship anywhere.
. . . .

The verse in Genesis is not limited to fellowship (as a matter of fact, I don't see where it denotes fellowship because it's a curse being placed at that point and there is no harmony in a curse). You simply have no understanding of that scripture. It is deep - meditate on it and you'll find out that God doesn't play. Eve's action was so hearty; to defy what God had said and bound her within the constaints of man in mankind.

Ivvie:

As for the whole confusion, I blame Christians, not the ungodly or the perversed.  The fear of the Lord is what makes nations sit up.  It is obvious that when the elements of the earth was being reprogrammed, Christians had no spirit of judgement to cancel the understanding and render the counsel void.  However, they complained and probably enjoyed it.  50 years later, it's has a sub section on nairaland and also a political issue of conservatism and liberalism.  The anointing of Jehu needs to be reinstated to rid the earth of the current generational wickedness.

Ivvie:

They all have roots and the open gates enforce the roots to ensure that they remain perpetual. It may sound wierd but this is true. There are some problems in life that the prayer of a woman cannot resolve. Talk to your pastor or intercessor. The authority of a woman isn' strong enough to negotiate the principles to get the desired result. You will need a man and the issue can be resolved sometimes with a simple prayer or combined prayer. It is a level of prayer.

Ivvie:

It's all good.  What I stated is only the surface.  All women that wear trousers too have the spirit of incubus in them and around them. It's also the reason why they have difficulty giving birth and dying when trying to conceive.