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Does Religion Matter? by Steep(m): 12:22pm On Jul 16, 2022
Yes religion matters, a religion is anything that guides us in life. Anything that forms what we believe to be true or false, it might be spiritual, physical etc
I laugh when some declare themselves as non religious, majority of the time what they mean is either they don't believe in the idea of God or they do not believe or take seriously the major world religion Islam and Christianity, the truth is that there is nobody without a religion.

Truth is never personal, the new age religion teaches that truth is relative and personal, meaning everyone can have there own personal truth or truth can change depending on the times. This is a lie, truth is truth and never changes, it is never relative neither is it personal. People who live their truth are living is deception and in ignorance.

The man who believe there is God and the man who believe there is no God, both can never be true.
Hence religion matters because truth matters, eternity matters, you don't invest in a business without finding out what type of business it is, it's is far worse in religion because it as to do with eternity.

Every religion has a message, this message can either be a lie or true.
The message of christianity called the gospel of Jesus christ.
The summary of the Christian message is that there is God who created all things including humans, this God is a holy, righteou, faithful loving and just God. He created all humans through one man Adam however this one man sinned and brought death upon all his descendants, all who sinned are would just be punished for their sin according to God's holiness which is his standard. This punishment is eternal death from God. However through history God has being pointing forward to a Time of redemption for mankind.
This redemption is Jesus christ himself who was born by a vigin lived a sinless life as the son of God paid took the judgment for our sin through his death, and after three days he rose again from the grave is a confirmation. He ascended into Heaven and will return back again to restore all things and judge mankind.

In Christianity truth is not relative, there is no personal truth there is just one truth who is Jesus himself. Sin is dangerous brings suffering on earth and eternal condemnation in eternity but the only solution is redemption which is Jesus.
Hence the problem is clear clear, Sin, and the solution is also clear faith in Jesus. There are no rituals, killing animals because Christ has already being killed and raised again, both the literate and the illiterate can understand the message, it is not gender biased nether race biased no segregate the rich and the poor.
"All have sinned" man or woman, blacks, or whites, rich or poor, educated or not educated and ll need Jesus.

How is Christianity different from all other religion.
Only Christianity preaches that the problem of mankind is sin problem and preaches the solution Jesus Christ.
In Christianity God is exalted as the holy, righteous, and loving God he is, Jesus by his death satisfied all of God's quality without rubbishing anyone. His death satisfied God's justice as well as open us to God's love unhindered.
A religion that does not need God' justice to be satisfied simply rubbishes it.

Some people would say why would God not forgive humans without Jesus dieing? The answer simply is God's justice can never be by passed it must be carried out.

However every human would need to make use of the freewill they have to either accept christ or not. Accept christ is accepting God's redemption not accepting christ is not accepting God's redemption, since God is a Go of liberty he will never force anyone to be save humans will have to choose.

Re: Does Religion Matter? by Steep(m): 12:24pm On Jul 16, 2022
There is one and ONLY one

way to heaven and that is by

accepting Jesus Christ as your

personal Lord and Savior! God

loves us so much that He sent

His one and only Son to die on

the cross for our sins so that we

would be forgiven and now we

can look forward to spending

eternity with Jesus in heaven!

Jesus said, "I am the way, the

truth and the life. NO ONE

comes to the Father EXCEPT

THROUGH ME (John 14:6;

emphasis mine) you have

never asked Jesus Christ to

come into your life and be your

personal Lord and Savior, I

encourage you to pray this

prayer and do it tonight!

Remember, none of us are

promised tomorrow. Dear

God in heaven, I come to you in

the name of Jesus, 1

acknowledge to You that I am a

sinner, and am sorry for my

sins and the life that I have

lived I need your forgiveness. I

believe that your only begotten

Son Jesus Christ shed His

precious blood on the cruss at

Calvary and died for my sins

and I am now willing to turn

from my sin. You said in Your

Holy Word, Romans 10.9 that if

we confess the Lord our God

and believe in our hearts that

God raised Jesus from the

dead, we shall be saved. Right

now I conless Jesus as the

Lord of my soul. With my heart,

I believe that God raised Jesus.

from the dead. This very

moment I accept Jesus Christ

as my own personal Savior and

according to His Word right

now I am saved. Thank your

Jesus for your unlimited grace

which has saved me from my

sins I thank you Jesus that

your grace never leads to

license, but rather it always

leads to repentance. Therefore

Lord Jesus transform my life so

that may bring glory and honor

to you alone and not to myself

Thank you Jesus for dying for

me and giving me eternal life.

AMEN.

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Re: Does Religion Matter? by frosy1(m): 12:28pm On Jul 16, 2022
Our Muslim brother and sisters now see nothing wrong with muslim-muslim ticket. If the was a Christian presidential candidate that try's this on a Christian Christian ticket level, by now hell would have come down by now.

They knows that Christians will still vote them in no matter what
Re: Does Religion Matter? by AntiChristian: 6:28pm On Jul 16, 2022
frosy1:
Our Muslim brother and sisters now see nothing wrong with muslim-muslim ticket. If the was a Christian presidential candidate that try's this on a Christian Christian ticket level, by now hell would have come down by now.

They knows that Christians will still vote them in no matter what

So why are you afraid? Vote your Christian candidate shebi your pastors don give you who una go vote for?

Abi "no PVC no church attendance" no reach your side?

Anyways, many governors run Christian-Christian and yet no P.

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Re: Does Religion Matter? by AntiChristian: 6:46pm On Jul 16, 2022
Steep you said God is just but Adam who is one man sinned and everyone in billions automatically inherits the sin.

1. How is God just by making sin hereditary like sickle cell?

2. Did your dad inherit the sin of your grandpa? If no, when did the sin hereditary stop and why?

3. In Islam, Allah forgave Adam when he repented and prayed. Hence we don't believe in sin hereditary. No one carries other's burden.
Since you claim God is merciful, forgiving, loving etc why didn't He forgive Adam in a short cut process rather than letting everyone inherit sin and later send someone again to be killed for the sins He ought to have forgiven in a long cut process?
Re: Does Religion Matter? by Kobojunkie: 7:43pm On Jul 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
* you said God is just but Adam who is one man sinned and everyone in billions automatically inherits the sin.

1. How is God just by making sin hereditary like sickle cell?

2. Did your dad inherit the sin of your grandpa? If no, when did the sin hereditary stop and why?

3. In Islam, Allah forgave Adam when he repented and prayed. Hence we don't believe in sin hereditary. No one carries other's burden.
Since you claim God is merciful, forgiving, loving etc why didn't He forgive Adam in a short cut process rather than letting everyone inherit sin and later send someone again to be killed for the sins He ought to have forgiven in a long cut process?
* Adam's choice was to go it alone without God. A Just God gave to Adam, and His descendants, exactly what he, Adam, requested of Him. undecided

1. According to scripture, sin is not inherited, not even like sickle cell. undecided

2. Your dad doesn't inherit Adam's sin nor his own grandpa's sins. Sin was inherited only in the land of Israel beginning in the time of Moses, but God discontinued that curse in Ezekiel 18 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 where God declared that no longer will the sins of the cather be passed down up to 5 generations, but instead the one who sinned will die. So those who cling to the idea of generational curses do so in ignorance and against God who started it and put an end to it even before Jesus Christ showed up in Israel. undecided

3. So, clearly, Allah isn't the God of the Bible, that much is at least established. undecided
Re: Does Religion Matter? by Steep(m): 8:21pm On Jul 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
Steep you said God is just but Adam who is one man sinned and everyone in billions automatically inherits the sin.

1. How is God just by making sin hereditary like sickle cell?
Adam is the father of all mankind, it is just for God make it possible for Adam's children to inherits Adam's property. Will it be just If your father is prevented from passing on his legacy to you? No. However to retain that property is up to you. We all inherited Adam's property which is sin, it is just for us to know what we receive from Adam which is sin and death but to continue in it is totally our choice.

2. Did your dad inherit the sin of your grandpa? If no, when did the sin hereditary stop and why?
To some extent yes, but I rejected it through christ however Adam's position is far greater than my gran pa.

3. In Islam, Allah forgave Adam when he repented and prayed. Hence we don't believe in sin hereditary. No one carries other's burden.
Allah is not holy neither is he just, he can accommodate sin and does no justice to it.
Yahweh is not so. The fact that yahweh does not forgive without a corresponding justice be done show how much he hates sin.


Since you claim God is merciful, forgiving, loving etc why didn't He forgive Adam in a short cut process rather than letting everyone inherit sin and later send someone again to be killed for the sins He ought to have forgiven in a long cut process?

The long process shows how much he hates sin as a holy God. Nothing valuable comes cheaply, the redemption of man does not come cheap, the price must be paid.
Justice must be carried out.

You Muslims sometimes make mockery at Christian saying that Christian easily sin because they think that any time they beg for forgiveness they are easily forgiven. You think this way because in Islam being forgiven is as cheap as anything.

In Christianity we know the price sin took, we know forgiveness of sin took the blood of God's holy Son and hence we know how much God hates sin, which you don't know.
Hence since God is just and righteous it is just to make us realize how much he hates sin.
Re: Does Religion Matter? by AntiChristian: 5:25am On Jul 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
* Adam's choice was to go it alone without God. A Just God gave to Adam, and His descendants, exactly what he, Adam, requested of Him. undecided

1. According to scripture, sin is not inherited, not even like sickle cell. undecided

2. Your dad doesn't inherit Adam's sin nor his own grandpa's sins. Sin was inherited only in the land of Israel beginning in the time of Moses, but God discontinued that curse in Ezekiel 18 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 where God declared that no longer will the sins of the cather be passed down up to 5 generations, but instead the one who sinned will die. So those who cling to the idea of generational curses do so in ignorance and against God who started it and put an end to it even before Jesus Christ showed up in Israel. undecided

3. So, clearly, Allah isn't the God of the Bible, that much is at least established. undecided

Your own form of Christianity no get name. Since you have a marked difference from the position of others can we say you also have a separate God from them?

You God couldn't forgive Adam for his sin of disobedience. But Allah forgave him. You just claim Allah is different from the Biblical God. Yet you didn't claim your God is different from that of the other Christians who significantly disagrees with you.
Hope that isn't hypocrisy when you use different judgement for similar acts?

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Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 5:27am On Jul 17, 2022
No

Infact the world could have been more better without religion

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Re: Does Religion Matter? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:40am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:
No
Infact the world could have been more better without religion

Better or worser world it is you and your kind who have made it so by your religions.
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41am On Jul 17, 2022
The SPIRITUAL controls the PHYSICAL and it's through faith in God (RELIGION) that one can grasp what SPIRITUALITY means.
So our religion does matter because without it we can't understand so many things affecting us even though we all want LOVE, JOY and PEACE! smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 5:42am On Jul 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Better or worser world it is you and your kind who have made it so by your religions.


Pardon, to my best of knowledge, we are making use of our free gifted senses without waiting for what one book says or one dog of men
Re: Does Religion Matter? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:47am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

Pardon, to my best of knowledge, we are making use of our free gifted senses without waiting for what one book says or one dog of men

Now you are using your free gifted senses in obedience to what the one book of dog men have said! Eg excerpt from your book "religion is a scam"

So you are waiting for the say of Movies to teach you!
Re: Does Religion Matter? by AntiChristian: 5:49am On Jul 17, 2022
Steep:
Adam is the father of all mankind, it is just for God make it possible for Adam's children to inherits Adam's property. Will it be just If your father is prevented from passing on his legacy to you? No. However to retain that property is up to you. We all inherited Adam's property which is sin, it is just for us to know what we receive from Adam which is sin and death but to continue in it is totally our choice.
I asked how it is just. You didn't answer. If you steal and you are punished yet your son has to inherit your sin, how is that justice from God?

Of what use is the punishment on Adam and Eve and all humans from Adam's sin? Does God want everyone to hate Adam? Yet, God punished them but didn't forgive them. This is not merciful. This is not loving! This is not fairness!
Today you Christians will claim forginess easily but God never granted Adam such!

Kindly answer all the questions without skipping one else i will remind you.


To some extent yes, but I rejected it through christ however Adam's position is far greater than my gran pa.
You are fond of skipping questions intentionally. I asked when did your inheritance of sin stop?
Let's assume you have ten thousand generations from Adam, the sons of Adam inherit his sins. So sins are being transferred down the ladder till it gets to you. The sins will be so heavy! How is God just and fair like this? When will the inheritance of sins you don't know anything about stop?


Allah is not holy neither is he just, he can accommodate sin and does no justice to it.
Yahweh is not so. The fact that yahweh does not forgive without a corresponding justice be done show how much he hates sin.
He is Al-Qudoos The Most Holy! You lied He accommodates sin. There are punishment for sins in Islam. And Allah forgives whoever repents sincerely going back to Him alone in worship without joining any partners with Him.

The biblical God punished Adam, Even and heavily but doesn't forgive them. He let their sins be inherited for him to later kill His only son! This is injustice at its peak!

The long process shows how much he hates sin as a holy God. Nothing valuable comes cheaply, the redemption of man does not come cheap, the price must be paid.
Justice must be carried out.

You Muslims sometimes make mockery at Christian saying that Christian easily sin because they think that any time they beg for forgiveness they are easily forgiven. You think this way because in Islam being forgiven is as cheap as anything.

In Christianity we know the price sin took, we know forgiveness of sin took the blood of God's holy Son and hence we know how much God hates sin, which you don't know.
Hence since God is just and righteous it is just to make us realize how much he hates sin.

Since Jesus was born by Mary, how much sin did he inherit? Or there was an exemption to only him inheriting any sin? I remember his ancestors were fornicators, murderer, coveter, incest comitter, etc. Did he inherit those sins?

You can come up with a theory of how he was sinless. But all man has sin and come short of the glory of God.

Jesus is the son of man as he called himself and was called many times.
And you didn't even bring any verse from your Yahweh!
Re: Does Religion Matter? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:57am On Jul 17, 2022
KingOfTheDamned:
WHO IS DOG OF MEN..

He means Pastors mostly but a shot or 2 are directly at The God.

The Lord will avenge Himself but I curse him with my whole heart, it was better that he was never born for it shall never be well with him.
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:01am On Jul 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Now you are using your free gifted senses in obedience to what the one book of dog men have said! Eg excerpt from your book "religion is a scam"

So you are waiting for the say of Movies to teach you!

Pardon!

This time, relax, drink cold water and come again
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:03am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:


Pardon, to my best of knowledge, we are making use of our free gifted senses without waiting for what one book says or one dog of men

The highlighted!
How possible is that?
I will believe without a doubt that one person can make use of his/her sense without waiting for what any book says but when it comes to move than one person as in two or more referencing "WE" it is IMPOSSIBLE.
There must be a book or information that two or three persons need to study and agree with what is written in it before they can make use of what is written to set matters straight among yourselves! 2Timothy 3:16

In the absence of a book each person will like to do things his/her own way which will eventually lead to disputes and in turn killings! Revelations 6:3-4

Please can you try to be logical on how two persons can use their senses to work together or cohabit peacefully without a guide book?

I'll really appreciate it if you can teach me how possible that is Sir! smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:04am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted!
How possible is that?
I will believe without a doubt that one person can make use of his/her sense without waiting for what any book says but when it comes to move than one person as in two or more referencing "WE" it is IMPOSSIBLE.
There must be a book or information that two or three persons need to study and agree with what is written in it before you can make use of what is written to set matters straight among yourselves! 2Timothy 3:16

In the absence of a book each person will like to do things his/her own way which will eventually lead to disputes and in turn killings! Revelations 6:3-4

Please can you try to be logical on how two persons can use their senses to work together or cohabit peacefully without a guide book?

I'll really appreciate it if you can teach me how possible that is Sir! smiley

Chakra/3rd eyes, straight link up to cosmos
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

Chakra/3rd eyes, straight link up to cosmos
What's the meaning of this? undecided

I expected you to explain how two persons can cohabit peacefully without a guide book Sir since you spoke confidently and i want to see reasons with you.

I'm open minded in this so let's trash whatever any book say for now and use our senses only as you've prescribed! undecided
Re: Does Religion Matter? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:10am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

Pardon!

This time, relax, drink cold water and come again

You obviously did not know the book you wait for and the religion you have entered in cheesy
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:16am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

What's the meaning of this? undecided

I expected you to explain how two persons can cohabit peacefully without a guide book Sir since you spoke confidently and i want to see reasons with you.

I'm open minded in this so let's trash whatever any book say for now and use our senses only as you've prescribed! undecided

Was there any book during the early civilization?
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17am On Jul 17, 2022
@helinues
The indisputable truth is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for intelligent beings to cohabit peacefully without a guide book!

That's why humans throughout the world are making constitutions as in rules written in BOOKS and waiting for it to be passed into law to guide, humans can't live without a guide book Sir! smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by AntiChristian: 6:18am On Jul 17, 2022
Steep why does your just God allo sìn to be hereditary from Adam and not good deeds?

A just God should allow both positive and negative inheritance or your God loves the negative than the positive?
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:18am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
@helinues
The indisputable truth is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for intelligent beings to cohabit peacefully without a guide book!

That's why humans throughout the world are making constitutions as in rules written in BOOKS and waiting for it to be passed into law to guide, humans can't live without a guide book Sir! smiley

The sparkling of two stones which changed our way of thinking must have been written in one book, right
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

Was there any book during the early civilization?
We are advancing that's why we need books to note what we have agreed upon.

According to the Bible God never wrote or inspired any written code in the beginning it was like a man (Adam) should pass the life saving information to his descendants from mouth to mouth. That has been what people do back then. But due to advancement we have developed a more efficient way of doing that by putting what we agreed upon in written forms so the written forms becomes our guide book from generation to generation!

Note that we pen down informations for many reasons and one of those reasons is to know what we all agreed upon as tenets so that there won't be arguments later, all we need to do when situations arises is go back to the guide book to set matters straight Sir.

So back then it was mouth to mouth but due to advancement mankind realized that written forms is better than mouth to mouth rules! smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:28am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

We are advancing that's why we need books to note what we have agreed upon.

According to the Bible God never wrote or inspired any written code in the beginning it was like a man (Adam) should pass the life saving information to his descendants from mouth to mouth. That has been what people do back then. But due to advancement we have developed a more efficient way of doing that by putting what we agreed upon in written forms so the written forms becomes our guide book from generation to generation!

Note that we pen down informations for many reasons and one of those reasons is to know what we all agreed upon as tenets so that there won't be arguments later, all we need to do when situations arises is go back to the guide book to set matters straight Sir.

So back then it was mouth to mouth but due to advancement mankind realized that written forms is better than mouth to mouth rules! smiley

You actually chan6 your narration.

Our ways of thinking changed the moment we started cooking our food. Was that written in any book?
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

The sparkling of two stones which changed our way of thinking must have been written in one book, right

Please i want you to be precise, what do you mean by "sparkling of two stones" Sir? smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:29am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Please i want you to be precise, what do you mean by "sparkling of two stones" Sir? smiley

How we came about fire
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:32am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

You actually chan6 your narration.
Our ways of thinking changed the moment we started cooking our food. Was that written in any book?

Written forms came due to advancement, you and i know that most women do visit google today to how to COOK nourishing meals they never prepared before. But before then it was through mouth to mouth that people are passing the information like cooking yam makes it more edible than unboiled ones! smiley
Re: Does Religion Matter? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:40am On Jul 17, 2022
helinues:

How we came about fire

Heat boils things and when one huge stone fall on another any observer can see the sparkling so people back then must have learned from that. You have heard of Isaac Newton who discovered the force of gravity. It was through an accident nah.
So common sense should tell us that most things we know today came through trial and error after an accident.
The man who discovered the train was boiling water in a kettle only to notice that after the water got to a boiling point the kettle started moving and today the world has advanced further. So great things begins little by little but it's by keeping records that the next generation can improve and records are nothing but WRITTEN FORMS of GUIDE BOOKS! undecided
Re: Does Religion Matter? by helinues: 6:40am On Jul 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Written forms came due to advancement, you and i know that most women do visit google today to read how they can can COOK nourishing meals they never prepared before. But before then it was through mouth to mouth that people are passing the information like cooking yam makes it more edible than unboiled ones! smiley


You are not getting the point... OIR Advanced civilization started when we started cooking our food which nourish our brains to function more better than before

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