Steep:
Yes religion matters, a religion is anything that guides us in life. Anything that forms what we believe to be true or false, it might be spiritual, physical etc
I laugh when some declare themselves as non religious, majority of the time what they mean is either they don't believe in the idea of God or they do not believe or take seriously the major world religion Islam and Christianity, the truth is that there is nobody without a religion.

Religions are based on not just a belief in higher power, but a belief in what the higher power is supposed to be. If someone simply lacks the belief in a higher power, then how are they religious?

Truth is never personal, the new age religion teaches that truth is relative and personal, meaning everyone can have there own personal truth or truth can change depending on the times. This is a lie, truth is truth and never changes, it is never relative neither is it personal. People who live their truth are living is deception and in ignorance.

I agree. Just because someone thinks they're right, doesn't necessarily mean they are.

The man who believe there is God and the man who believe there is no God, both can never be true.
Hence religion matters because truth matters, eternity matters, you don't invest in a business without finding out what type of business it is, it's is far worse in religion because it as to do with eternity.

Every religion has a message, this message can either be a lie or true.

Truth is independent of what anyone's beliefs, opinions, or perceptions. Religions all have messages. They can not all be true. But they can also all be false. They may all have a tiny element of truth to it, without not being entirely true.

The message of christianity called the gospel of Jesus christ.
The summary of the Christian message is that there is God who created all things including humans, this God is a holy, righteou, faithful loving and just God. He created all humans through one man Adam however this one man sinned and brought death upon all his descendants, all who sinned are would just be punished for their sin according to God's holiness which is his standard. This punishment is eternal death from God. However through history God has being pointing forward to a Time of redemption for mankind.
This redemption is Jesus christ himself who was born by a vigin lived a sinless life as the son of God paid took the judgment for our sin through his death, and after three days he rose again from the grave is a confirmation. He ascended into Heaven and will return back again to restore all things and judge mankind.

Nice, so how exactly does this differ from the other religious beliefs in respect to truth? How can you objectively prove that what you said is indeed true, and not a lie?

In Christianity truth is not relative, there is no personal truth there is just one truth who is Jesus himself. Sin is dangerous brings suffering on earth and eternal condemnation in eternity but the only solution is redemption which is Jesus.
Hence the problem is clear clear, Sin, and the solution is also clear faith in Jesus. There are no rituals, killing animals because Christ has already being killed and raised again, both the literate and the illiterate can understand the message, it is not gender biased nether race biased no segregate the rich and the poor.
"All have sinned" man or woman, blacks, or whites, rich or poor, educated or not educated and ll need Jesus.

Refer to points above.

How is Christianity different from all other religion. Only Christianity preaches that the problem of mankind is sin problem and preaches the solution Jesus Christ.
In Christianity God is exalted as the holy, righteous, and loving God he is, Jesus by his death satisfied all of God's quality without rubbishing anyone. His death satisfied God's justice as well as open us to God's love unhindered.
A religion that does not need God' justice to be satisfied simply rubbishes it.

That makes Christianity unique. That doesn't necessarily make it true. Uniqueness and truth are not the same thing. Christianity offers a different concept of a God, and a different concept of why things are the way they are. Interesting? Yes. True? That needs to be proven.

helinues:


Did Newton read about gravity somewhere?

Moreover, Newton's gravity theory have been debunked.

Gravity is not a force

Hi there. Even though Einstein's theory of gravity has gained prominence, I wouldn't exactly say Newton's theory has been debunked. To debunk something is to prove it completely false.

Sure, now we know that matter distorts space time, and the effect of this distortion is what we call gravity. But all of newton's equations still hold up. The distortion of spacetime which is caused by mass is what causes objects to fall towards each other. Even though it's not a force in the literal sense, two bodies of matter, in reasonable proximity, are still affected by each other.

Newton thought this phenomenon was the effect of one body on the other, while einstein thought the phenomenon was the effect of matter on space time, which would affect other matter around it. Both were correct in the sense that it had to do with matter, and that mass and distance was involved. It's why Newton's equations is still taught in schools today.

MaxInDHouse:


Good!
Now we're getting somewhere.
Newton's discoveries were RECORDED and for centuries many have used it to teach in schools but today we can debunk it due to advancement.
So if there's no guide book how can we know that we are advancing in knowledge?

I like your analogy of how knowledge can be passed down through generations, and how generations can either add, or modify the knowledge as they advance. Do you then agree that whatever book or means of recording knowledge we have now should be subject to change, as we advance?

That is, do you agree that whatever thing you regard as a guide book, should be subject to being edited and modified to reflect our growth as a specie?

AntiChristian:
1. Your own form of Christianity no get name. Since you have a marked difference from the position of others can we say you also have a separate God from them?

2..You God couldn't forgive Adam for his sin of disobedience. But Allah forgave him. You just claim Allah is different from the Biblical God. Yet you didn't claim your God is different from that of the other Christians who significantly disagrees with you.

3. Hope that isn't hypocrisy when you use different judgement for similar acts?

1. Sadly, I don't have a separate God from them since God's Law refers to those who believe in Him but choose to live according to the doctrines and traditions of men as sinners/transgressors of His Law and commandments

2. Did Adam seek forgiveness from God for His choice, to begin with? Was forgiveness an offer that was available to Adam at the time in question? These are some of the questions to ask.

God gave Adam a choice to make. Adam decided man would go on the journey that is his own life by his own strength and God obliged him, washing His hands off all that was man's endeavors and man's existence. Simple and short!.

Allah is different from the God of scripture since God stood by His decree while, in comparison, it would seem Allah backpedaled. You see, God of Scripture does not change His standard or lower Himself for man's sake. And if it is written that Allah forgave Adam then it means we are looking clearly here at different deities.

3. This has absolutely nothing to do with Hypocrisy. I am simply stating highlighting differences which are apparent between the two deities.

AntiChristian:


So why are you afraid? Vote your Christian candidate shebi your pastors don give you who una go vote for?

Abi "no PVC no church attendance" no reach your side?

Anyways, many governors run Christian-Christian and yet no P.

Sorry to say you write up is so childish.
I as a person only votes who can deliver irrespective of their religion. I don't vote base on party beside was there fear in my write up... ... please kindly wake up from your slumber. It's your type that likes religious fight serious, sorry go and tell them that you didn't meet me at home

Wilgrea7:


I like your analogy of how knowledge can be passed down through generations, and how generations can either add, or modify the knowledge as they advance. Do you then agree that whatever book or means of recording knowledge we have now should be subject to change, as we advance?

That is, do you agree that whatever thing you regard as a guide book, should be subject to being edited and modified to reflect our growth as a specie?

Of course when the need arises!

But first of all we have to consider if there's any reason for updates since we only need such editing or modifying for our growth as a spicie!

AntiChristian:
Steep you said God is just but Adam who is one man sinned and everyone in billions automatically inherits the sin.

1. How is God just by making sin hereditary like sickle cell?

2. Did your dad inherit the sin of your grandpa? If no, when did the sin hereditary stop and why?

3. In Islam, Allah forgave Adam when he repented and prayed. Hence we don't believe in sin hereditary. No one carries other's burden.
Since you claim God is merciful, forgiving, loving etc why didn't He forgive Adam in a short cut process rather than letting everyone inherit sin and later send someone again to be killed for the sins He ought to have forgiven in a long cut process?

God never made sin Hereditary. It was death, the consequence of Adam's sin that we inherited. And, yes children many times inherit the consequence of their parent's actions. If one does not work hard, and he ends up poor, his kids would suffer from that.

tctrills:

God never made sin Hereditary. It was death, the consequence of Adam's sin that we inherited. And, yes children many times inherit the consequence of their parent's actions. If one does not work hard, and he ends up poor, his kids would suffer from that.

I don't know which version of Christianity i should believe in now. Anyways, nothing stops the kids from working hard and making their wealth.

frosy1:


Sorry to say you write up is so childish.
I as a person only votes who can deliver irrespective of their religion. I don't vote base on party beside was there fear in my write up... ... please kindly wake up from your slumber. It's your type that likes religious fight serious, sorry go and tell them that you didn't meet me at home

If you're looking for who can deliver na your problem be that! My write-up is so childish yet you responded. It think yours reps that of a old man about to die.

And what's the lie about religious fights?

Kobojunkie:
1. Sadly, I don't have a separate God from them since God's Law refers to those who believe in Him but choose to live according to the doctrines and traditions of men as sinners/transgressors of His Law and commandments

2. Did Adam seek forgiveness from God for His choice, to begin with? Was forgiveness an offer that was available to Adam at the time in question? These are some of the questions to ask.

God gave Adam a choice to make. Adam decided man would go on the journey that is his own life by his own strength and God obliged him, washing His hands off all that was man's endeavors and man's existence. Simple and short!.

Allah is different from the God of scripture since God stood by His decree while, in comparison, it would seem Allah backpedaled. You see, God of Scripture does not change His standard or lower Himself for man's sake. And if it is written that Allah forgave Adam then it means we are looking clearly here at different deities.

3. This has absolutely nothing to do with Hypocrisy. I am simply stating highlighting differences which are apparent between the two deities.

It all comes down to the fact that your God didn't forgive Adam. Allah did. His forgiveness is always available once man is still alive before death!

Your own version of God probably had forgiveness witheld for some time. He punished Adam but didn't forgive them.
I'm sure Adam did many good. Why are only the sins inherited.

Steep:
In the bible there is sin as an act and sin as a nature. Sin as an act is not transferable but sin as a nature is transferable. Every Son or daughter bears the image of their parents right? Everyone bears the image of Adam.

You said sin is hereditary before. Now you're saying sin as a nature is transferable! Who transfered the sin to Adam? See as you cut all the questions comot in hypocrisy!

wrong God is not punishing any one from Adam's sin. We simply inherited Adam's property. If your father gave you a land that is filled with thorns does that mean you are been punished for you fathers sin?

We also inherit Adam's punishment right? How is that just and loving?

Who is fighting with you?
Why do you recieve the DNA of your parents? Is it just to recieve the DNA of your parents. Answer this question

I no dey fight with you. Deoxyribonucleic acid is transferred as Allah created them during copulation and fertilization. There's ample chance of getting more characters of one parent to the other. Your sin theory doesn't work like DNA! DNA can't be changed!

He is Al-Qudoos The Most Holy! You lied He accommodates sin. There are punishment for sins in Islam. And Allah forgives whoever repents sincerely going back to Him alone in worship without joining any partners with Him. Allah is not holy, there is no evidence of this.
The fact that yahweh is Holy is clear to every one. The evidence is the price it takes for sin to be pardoned.

The price is to repent sincerely in Islam. In Christianity, blood must be paid. God needed to kill His son. Allah's name is Al-Qudoos. Where is the lie? Tell me which name of your God translates to Holiness?

The biblical God punished Adam, Even and heavily but doesn't forgive them. He let their sins be inherited for him to later kill His only son! This is injustice at its peak! Where did you read that God didn't forgive Adam and Eve Yahweh forgives sin but the price must be paid in full. Did Allah kill Mohammad? since Mohammead died or Allah does not have the power to prevent Mohammad death.

When you forgive someone you need not punish him anymore. You rather punish before forgiveness. And there's no justice nor love in punishing the descendants of a sinner.

Which price did Judah pay for sleeping with his daughter in law? Which price did Lot and his daughters pay for commiting incest? All these are the grandparents of your Jesus. Even David was a murderer, coveter, adulterer yet Jesus didn't inherit the sinful nature. He was sinless.

Muhammad died because everyone will die. Only Allah doesn't die.

Since Jesus was born by Mary, how much sin did he inherit? Or there was an exemption to only him inheriting any sin? I remember his ancestors were fornicators, murderer, coveter, incest comitter, etc. Did he inherit those sins? Mary is not a Man, In the bible the Man is the head not the woman.

So Jesus as a son of man had whose DNA? God's DNA right not Mary's?

Jesus must have inherited the sinful nature of his ancestors as listed in his two different genealogies in your Gospels. Don't let me call you a liar!

You can come up with a theory of how he was sinless. But all man has sin and come short of the glory of God.

Jesus is the son of man as he called himself and was called many times.
And you didn't even bring any verse from your Yahweh! The bible is read in context.
Jesus is the Son of man referred to the fact that he is human however sinless.

Since he is human then he is a sinner cos all has sinned and come short of the glory of God.
How was he exempted from inheriting the sinful nature?

AntiChristian:


I don't know which version of Christianity i should believe in now. Anyways, nothing stops the kids from working hard and making their wealth.

Yes and nothing stops anyone from enjoying the salvation of God through Christ Jesus.

AntiChristian:
1
.It all comes down to the fact that your God didn't forgive Adam. Allah did. His forgiveness is always available once man is still alive before death!

2. Your own version of God probably had forgiveness witheld for some time. He punished Adam but didn't forgive them.

3. I'm sure Adam did many good. Why are only the sins inherited.

1. Again, Forgiveness was not on the table as far as God's Law to Adam so I don't see why it would need to come down to that in anyway.

Your Allah maybe that way but when it comes to God what He offers is as stipulated in His Law and agreement with those He makes a Covenant with..

2. There is nothing like my "own version" since all I state here is as is written in scripture for all those who believe in God to hear and Obey.

Again, forgiveness does not come out of nowhere.... it is as defined in God's Law and Covenant, where available of course. God's Law to Adam did not include a "Forgiveness" clause so it would seem forgiveness was not even an offer on the table for Adam. However, for us, His descendants, a "Forgiveness" clause is included in the Covenant God makes with us and that is that.

3. Adam did good things by whose standard/Law? And what sins of Adam did you inherit?

P.S. sin means disobedience or transgression of God's law or commandment. That is simply what sin means and it is a choice made by each individual. Not an inheritable behavior since inheritance would suggest one has no choice but to disobey God always.

AntiChristian:
You said sin is hereditary before. Now you're saying sin as a nature is transferable! Who transfered the sin to Adam? See as you cut all the questions comot in hypocrisy!

what questions? You are the hypocrites here. After answering you, you repeat it again.
In the bible there is sin as an act and sin as a nature. The sin that is hereditary is the sin nature.

We also inherit Adam's punishment right? How is that just and loving?

If your father leaves a dilapidated house for you, is God transferring your father's punishment to you?

I no dey fight with you. Deoxyribonucleic acid is transferred as Allah created them during copulation and fertilization. There's ample chance of getting more characters of one parent to the other. Your sin theory doesn't work like DNA! DNA can't be changed!

this is where your confusion lies. You think the way sin is treated is the same way the bible speaks of sin.
Who is speaking of theory? DNA can't be change by man but God can change it. Sin is like a DNA transfered to all man, just like DNA man can't change.



[qupte]The price is to repent sincerely in Islam. In Christianity, blood must be paid. God needed to kill His son. Allah's name is Al-Qudoos. Where is the lie? Tell me which name of your God translates to Holiness?[/quote] It goes to show how lightly Allah regards sin. Let me give you an example, A country that places death penalty on corruption and a country that places death sentence on corruption and a country that places a one day sentence on corruption, which one do think hate corruption the more? The price yahweh placed on sin shows how much he hates sin, it shows how holy he is.
If you say allah is just then you lie, a man guilty of death should die, that is justice. If allah only demand repentance from one that is guilty of death he shows he is not just neither is allah holy.

Justice means the penalty must equal to the crime, anything other than this is not justice.

you forgive someone you need not punish him anymore. You rather punish before forgiveness. And there's no justice nor love in punishing the descendants of a sinner.

forgiveness is not justice. If you forgive someone then you have paid that person according as he deserved, this is not justice. Justice means pay everyone according as they deserve.
Lol@ bold so you punish before forgiveness, right. So someone who is guilty of death, you will kill him before forgiving him right?
Who told you God is punishes Adam's children for their father's sin?

Which price did Judah pay for sleeping with his daughter in law? Which price did Lot and his daughters pay for commiting incest? All these are the grandparents of your Jesus. Even David was a murderer, coveter, adulterer yet Jesus didn't inherit the sinful nature. He was sinless.

Nobody can pay for their sin. The acts of Juda, lots daughters, David etc shows they were sinners just like everyone else and guilty of death.
Jesus birth was a miracle because Jesus conception was not like other humans. Just like Adam's creation was a miracle so was Jesus conception and birth, hence Jesus didn't share from the sin nature of his mary.

Muhammad died because everyone will die. Only Allah doesn't die.

Mohammad died because Allah willed it right? So does that mean Allah killed Mohammad?

So Jesus as a son of man had whose DNA? God's DNA right not Mary's?

I will ask you one question, who's DNA did Adam bare? If Adam's DNA comes from God and yet he was a man so is Jesus DNA. By the way I am not saying sin is DNA but rather sin nature can be likened to DNA that is transfered.

Jesus must have inherited the sinful nature of his ancestors as listed in his two different genealogies in your Gospels. Don't let me call you a liar!

Jesus genealogies are through is foster father Joseph and Mary wo carried Jesus in her womb.
Joseph adopted Jesus, since in Israel a child's lineage is by law traced through his father's, so Jesus lineage could be lawfully be traced through his foster father Joseph.

Since he is human then he is a sinner cos all has sinned and come short of the glory of God.
How was he exempted from inheriting the sinful nature?

If someone said "I have everything at home:, then you will say he has all existence at home? Lol.
Learn to read according to context.

All have sinned is talking of all who inherited the Adami nature.

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, Forgiveness was not on the table as far as God's Law to Adam so I don't see why it would need to come down to that in anyway.

Your Allah maybe that way but when it comes to God what He offers is as stipulated in His Law and agreement with those He makes a Covenant with..

2. There is nothing like my "own version" since all I state here is as is written in scripture for all those who believe in God to hear and Obey.

Again, forgiveness does not come out of nowhere.... it is as defined in God's Law and Covenant, where available of course. God's Law to Adam did not include a "Forgiveness" clause so it would seem forgiveness was not even an offer on the table for Adam. However, for us, His descendants, a "Forgiveness" clause is included in the Covenant God makes with us and that is that.

3. Adam did good things by whose standard/Law? And what sins of Adam did you inherit?

P.S. sin means disobedience or transgression of God's law or commandment. That is simply what sin means and it is a choice made by each individual. Not an inheritable behavior since inheritance would suggest one has no choice but to disobey God always.

1. For your Bible your God didn't give the option of forgiveness to Adam. That's a pity! So when did your God brought about the option of forgiveness?

2. So anyone who sins will either be punished or overlooked by your as He wills right?

3. I don't believe I inherited any sins from anyone. Sins are not hereditary. Adam must have done something good according to God's standard. Why didn't we inherit the good he did but only the sins according to those who believe in sin inheritance?

AntiChristian:
1. For your Bible your God didn't give the option of forgiveness to Adam. That's a pity! So when did your God brought about the option of forgiveness?

2. So anyone who sins will either be punished or overlooked by your as He wills right?

3. I don't believe I inherited any sins from anyone. Sins are not hereditary. Adam must have done something good according to God's standard. Why didn't we inherit the good he did but only the sins according to those who believe in sin inheritance?

1. As I already explained, God's relationship with men is as defined in His Law/Covenants and there are about 4 major Laws/Covenants highlighted in Scripture you can study to find this out for yourself.

2. See #1 for answer.

3. In Scripture, God is the standard of that which is Good, and by God's standard, what Adam did was not Good, hence the reason, God allowed Adam have his way instead.

Also, God's standard does not depict sin as an inheritable choice, so?

AntiChristian:


I don't know which version of Christianity i should believe in now. Anyways, nothing stops the kids from working hard and making their wealth.

We are on the same page.
You raised a very important point, which version to believe. But it's a universal question everyone asks at some time in life. A Christian would ask, which of the Islams is the real one? Is it the one that prays every morning in my street or the ones that bomb and kill in the name of their God?
An atheist would ask, which of all these 100s of religions is the real one? No one would give you the answer, find it for yourself

tctrills:
We are on the same page.
You raised a very important point, which version to believe. But it's a universal question everyone asks at some time in life. A Christian would ask, which of the Islams is the real one? Is it the one that prays every morning in my street or the ones that bomb and kill in the name of their God?
An atheist would ask, which of all these 100s of religions is the real one? No one would give you the answer, find it for yourself

Islam is different. Out of over a billion Muslims how many are involved in terrorism? Just a tiny fraction yet you judge the majority with this.
I already had my answer! I searched decades ago!

The way Christianity is being fractionated in to denominations is quite alarming! God seems to be busy calling people. Miracle peddling! Prosperity preachers! Tithes is good or bad! And other Christian imbroglio!
Moreso, Christ never practiced Christianity nor attended a church! No where was Christianity mentioned by the biblical God.

Almost everything in Christianity are man-made hearsay! No one can confirm the authenticity of the religion.

Moreso, the Christian missionaries who brought Christianity here we're also terrorists. It's either you accept Christianity and learn western education or nothing!

AntiChristian:


Islam is different. Out of over a billion Muslims how many are involved in terrorism? Just a tiny fraction yet you judge the majority with this.
I already had my answer! I searched decades ago!

The way Christianity is being fractionated in to denominations is quite alarming! God seems to be busy calling people. Miracle peddling! Prosperity preachers! Tithes is good or bad! And other Christian imbroglio!
Moreso, Christ never practiced Christianity nor attended a church! No where was Christianity mentioned by the biblical God.

Almost everything in Christianity are man-made hearsay! No one can confirm the authenticity of the religion.

Moreso, the Christian missionaries who brought Christianity here we're also terrorists. It's either you accept Christianity and learn western education or nothing!

I disagree with you on Islam and here is why.
This year alone, we had a girl killed in Sokoto. She was not killed by Boko Haram but by her Muslim classmates. Stuff like this happens everyday in the Muslim world.
A lady is killed because she complained about her Muslim neighbor pouring water when praying.
Even Muslims that have a change of faith get killed. So it may be wrong to call those killing and those ready to kill and supporting the killing a minority.
Remember when the Christian student was killed Atiku condemned the act until he saw that majority of Muslims supported the act and he would lose them in election.
So I ask which is the right Islam.
Note, in Nigeria, our Muslim government kills Shia for fun. So let's not pretend killing others in the name of religion is accepted by only a minority of Muslim. The truth is that we including you do not know and cannot tell how many Muslims support religious violence.
Lastly, most of the things you said about Christians are totally wrong.

AntiChristian:


So why are you afraid? Vote your Christian candidate shebi your pastors don give you who una go vote for?

Abi "no PVC no church attendance" no reach your side?

Anyways, many governors run Christian-Christian and yet no P.

Every Christian should be scared of a Muslim Muslim presidency and should cry out against it's possibility.

Kobojunkie:
* Adam's choice was to go it alone without God. A Just God gave to Adam, and His descendants, exactly what he, Adam, requested of Him.

1. According to scripture, sin is not inherited, not even like sickle cell.

2. Your dad doesn't inherit Adam's sin nor his own grandpa's sins. Sin was inherited only in the land of Israel beginning in the time of Moses, but God discontinued that curse in Ezekiel 18 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 where God declared that no longer will the sins of the cather be passed down up to 5 generations, but instead the one who sinned will die. So those who cling to the idea of generational curses do so in ignorance and against God who started it and put an end to it even before Jesus Christ showed up in Israel.

3. So, clearly, Allah isn't the God of the Bible, that much is at least established.

We should reconsider our thoughts on Adam and Eve. Remember, they did not know good or evil before eating the fruit and if they did not eat, there would not have been a need for Jesus Christ.

tctrills:
We should reconsider our thoughts on Adam and Eve. Remember, they did not know good or evil before eating the fruit and if they did not eat, there would not have been a need for Jesus Christ.

Does a well-programmed and tested robot need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

Kobojunkie:
Does a robot need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it is able to carry out a basic command given it?

A robot is not given the ability to choose.

tctrills:
A robot is not given the ability to choose.

OK.

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot(or even a child for that matter), with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

Kobojunkie:
OK.

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot, with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

If a robot has the ability to choose between 2 choices It would need an in-depth understanding of both. The programmer would need to input that into it.

Kobojunkie:
OK.

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot(or even a child for that matter), with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

That's why we don't blame our little kids for their choices, they don't know between good and evil. If I leave a bowl of rice on the table and go into the room, I wouldn't be surprised to see my baby's hands in the bowl.

tctrills:
If a robot has the ability to choose between 2 choices It would need an in-depth understanding of both. The programmer would need to input that into it.

How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...

16 The Lord God gave him this command: “You may eat from any tree in the garden.
17 But you must not eat from the tree that gives knowledge about good and evil. If you eat fruit from that tree, on that day you will certainly die!” - Genesis 2 vs 16 - 17

The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

Kobojunkie:
How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...
The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?

actually robots need much more inputted info than humans. In machine learning, you could use thousands of input experiences to make your robot make a very simple decision.

tctrills:
That's why we don't blame our little kids for their choices, they don't know between good and evil. If I leave a bowl of rice on the table and go into the room, I wouldn't be surprised to see my baby's hands in the bowl.

This isnt about babies who barely know their noses from their eyes. Recall that I said a well-programmed and tested robot, at least a child able to tell its face from its butt, and with an understanding of the difference between pain and pleasure at least.

tctrills:
actually robots need much more inputted info than humans. In machine learning, you could use thousands of input experiences to make your robot make a very simple decision.

Again....

So, does a well-programmed and tested robot(or even a child for that matter), with the ability to choose, need to first have a concise understanding of good and evil before it can effectively carry out a basic command given it?

Kobojunkie:
This isnt about babies who barely know their noses from their eyes. Recall that I said a well-programmed and tested robot, at least a child able to tell its face from its butt, and with an understanding of the difference between pain and pleasure at least.

This isn't about robots. At least babies are human. If a robot does not meet standards, it's the maker's fault. Yes, a child is able to learn from experiences. That is what Adam did not have. He was even worst that a child.

tctrills:

This isn't about robots. At least babies are human. If a robot does not meet standards, it's the maker's fault. Yes, a child is able to learn from experiences. That is what Adam did not have. He was even worst that a child.

Again, How in-depth of an understanding is necessary in order for the robot to obey the command stated below...

16 The Lord God gave him this command: “You may eat from any tree in the garden.
17 But you must not eat from the tree that gives knowledge about good and evil. If you eat fruit from that tree, on that day you will certainly die!” - Genesis 2 vs 16 - 17

The command already highlights what is good and what is evil... so how much more of an understanding of good and of evil is necessary for said robot to obey the simple command above?