Kobojunkie:
1. Personal experience? I am simply pointing out to OP that when it comes to the power of God, and His Spirit, the experience of either is beyond what are the boundaries that are one's emotions. Jesus Christ, for instance, had the same Spirit of Truth living on the inside of Him, and not once did He ramble on about how emotionally exhilarating having the power and spirit of God is. Why so-called Christians now reduce both to just that, emotions and feelings, is beyond me.

2. I don't feel I want to create a thread about anything though.

3. It is precisely that. God doesn't deal with you via your emotions and feelings - that is not the connection the Spirit of God aka the same Spirit of Truth who lives inside of Jesus Christ - John 14 vs 6 - operates. Jesus Christ more than explained this to you all in John 14 vs 15 - 17 & John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15. Why you refuse to accept His Truth is beyond Him, but dont pretend you can then spew lies instead and not be called out for just that.

4. Let me guess, you assume the joy and peace that comes from God equates to the sort of feeling of joy and peace you feel when your bills and worries are all catered to in this world? LOL... you haven't even begun to understand the things of God if so.

I pray GOD ALMIGHTY delivers you from the spirit of HERESY

Kobojunkie:
But it is exactly my work that I am doing here. Why you seem to have a problem with that is beyond me..

I see
I'm not impressed

Even the devil quoted the scriptures to Jesus sha

Keep working

Kobojunkie:
1. None of those verses from those passages are quoted or thrown outside of logical context, but it seems you are simply trying to get around revealing your ignorance of what is in fact written in scripture.

2. That is an absolute lie! God's standard for all men in Jesus Christ is the exact same standard and His mandate to all men has remained the very same since the beginning - Obey Me!. So if you think that God will lower His standard to your level or bend His Law to please men, then you don't know who God is at all nor have you ever encountered Him because according to Him, only those who Obey Him can encounter Him.

Obedience is the Key and the only level via which any man can encounter God and God has never changed that mandate —not for any man.

3. Leave Packaging? You lot are the ones who go around regurgitating the packaged lies your pastors and mogs feed you as if to suggest those lies can upturn scripture by your restating of them. Also, if you really believe the statement in bold as fact, then of what use are your many pastors and mogs to your lives?

Look, God does not deal with people via emotions. Instead, what Jesus Christ told you the Spirit of Truth will do is to convict sinners by using the same Truth that is Jesus Christ. That is not an emotional experience. NO, it is one of logic /reasoning.

but you know that the Bible was written by human beings like you?

DearGorgeous:


I did. It was too much. Same here too.

Awwnnn.. awesome! .

DIVAD2000:
:DI see. I'm not impressed. Even the devil quoted the scriptures to Jesus sha. Keep working

So, unless the work complies with that which you want and expect, it cannot be of God, abi? I see!

omonnakoda:
but you know that the Bible was written by human beings like you?

Indeed it was!

Kobojunkie:
What you described, I have experienced numerous times back before I came to know God. It is no different from the experience of some of those who frequent nightclubs, strip clubs, and rock shows. It is all induced by brain chemicals and this explains why it does not last very long. Right after the show, you find yourselves back down from the high either seeking or looking forward to the next time when you can have such an experience again.

The joy, peace, and gladness God gives are not that brain-chemical-induced kind. So telling people that is a slap in the face of God.

If what you have now is still what you have or have experienced when you didn't know God, maybe and just maybe your haven't discovered this God. Maybe what you have is just knowledge! Why don't you go back to God.

God ministers to people through their emotions! Your experience to the contrary does not and cannot invalidate that!

What you are experiencing is probably happiness. Why don't you ask God to fill you with his joy? I seriously recommend you do that before you continue arguing what you obviously don't have!

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

You've had a seizure.

Seek medical help.

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

It's nothing to be compared with what happens at Zion prayer ministry outreach of Evangelist Ebuka Obi in Lagos.

Blessedmercy8:


Abeg abeg abeg! Don't confuse my Wonderful experience with your highness when you were in the world Biko. I resemble igbo smoker to you? Please our experiences are not the same. Mine was a pure manifestation of the holy spirit which was evident in sportaneous speaking in tongues as Daddy Adeboye was moving with the mantle. Even though everywhere was silent, I was pouring out and vibrating with full force. I couldn't contain it even when I tried to suppress it.

Just stop arguing what you know nothing about.

Exactly, he doesn't have this experience. If only he could humble himself and ask God for this joy!

Kobojunkie:
So, unless the work complies with that which you want and expect, it cannot be of God, abi? I see!

As if it's edifying in the first place.
All the best for you.

Oh BTW did you go to church today?

Or you've started your own church

Kobojunkie:
Indeed it was!

So why now talking about it as if is is more than the fabrication of men

Naira20:
I know his aim.He set out to deceive some NLanders.I have observed him and know his intentions.

There are copious scriptures that shows God also communicates to us via feelings. I just don't want to waste energy because it'd be tantamount to casting gold to swine.

My aim was to use basic things to show how hollow he is.
Even a dunce knows Joy,pleasure,sorrow are emotions and feelings.

Thank you for adding points to his aim. Also he likes to derail every thread people would use to update their spiritual knowledge about ALMIGHTY GOD.

I have known you for this @Kobojunkie. You better change you attitude. No one is infallible in this life apart from YAHWEH. In your own case you are Mr. Right! No offense please!

Like someone pointed out, if you feel you are all knowing then float your ministry.

Kobojunkie:
What you described, I have experienced numerous times back before I came to know God. It is no different from the experience of some of those who frequent nightclubs, strip clubs, and rock shows. It is all induced by brain chemicals and this explains why it does not last very long. Right after the show, you find yourselves back down from the high either seeking or looking forward to the next time when you can have such an experience again.

The joy, peace, and gladness God gives are not that brain-chemical-induced kind. So telling people that is a slap in the face of God.

This GOD EXPERIENCE is also a function of brain chemicals

You would not have it without a brain and a brain that has chemistry at that.
It happens inside heads

Neoteny7:


You've had a seizure.

Seek medical help.

Back to sender

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

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Why do u feel his a true man of God not a business preacher as so many others?Anyway,i personally feel 99% of churches in naija are business centre esp Redeem.Thats why u find dem on every street n d pastors remit all money to headquarters before they collect their salary

God bless Daddy Enoch Adeboye.

I look at him and I wonder many things

How one can carry so much grace and anoiting and still be simple and humble.

justt:
1. It's either you are deliberately deviating or you don't understand what you are trying to explain! No one has argued that emotions are not temporary, the point is that God relates with his people through their emotions. The scripture, Ps 16:11, talks aboutm fullness of joy. This means, in some cases and in my own understanding, believers may not have that full joy.
Why? The problem is not actually with God, but as humans, we are faced with difficult situations or challenges of life, which sometimes shifts our focus from God. At such moments, the joy may not be full.

2. I believe this is the more reason we need to fellowship with God, to focus our attention on him and him alone. Again, this is another reason why I believe God relates with us through our emotions because if our joy has been drained by challenges of life, it's just logical for God to meet the need by 'refilling' what we have lost - the joy emotion!

I am afraid your assertions makes no sense.

5 Lord, you give me all that I need. You support me. You give me my share.
6 My share is wonderful. My inheritance[d] is very beautiful.
7 I praise the Lord because he taught me well. Even at night he put his instructions deep inside my mind.[e]
8 I always remember that the Lord is with me. He is here, close by my side, so nothing can defeat me.
9 So my heart and soul will be very happy. Even my body will live in safety,
10 because you will not leave me in the place of death. You will not let your faithful one rot in the grave.
11 You will teach me the right way to live. Just being with you will bring complete happiness. Being at your right side will make me happy forever. - Psalm 16 vs 5 - 11

For the umpteenth time, the passage above explains that the joy that God gives is not just the kind that is complete but also the kind that lasts forever meaning it is not the kind of emotional joy that all men are able to experience. In addition, nowhere in the context do you have the writer relating this joy from God to the emotions or that which the mind can handle as he instead explains that only those who are on the right-side of God are able to experience this special kind of Joy meaning God retrofits His own with the ability to handle this joy He offers.

2. None of this provides evidence for what amounts to a fallacious claim thus far.

Kobojunkie:
For how long will you lot continue to live in this delusion abeg!

Unbelievers also speak of having the very same euphoric experience at rock concerts with their favorite rock stars, orchestras, etc. For you to believe your particular experience has to do with God and His Spirit reveals you have never in fact ever experienced God in your life. God does not deal with His followers via feelings and emotions. His power is not of your temporal emotions and feelings. Your mogs and pastors are no different from magicians given the way you describe your encounters.

Those who mock the anoited MUST end up as a mockery. Mark my words. You will soon know how far.

justt:
1. If what you have now is still what you have or have experienced when you didn't know God, maybe and just maybe your haven't discovered this God. Maybe what you have is just knowledge! Why don't you go back to God.

2. God ministers to people through their emotions! Your experience to the contrary does not and cannot invalidate that!

3. What you are experiencing is probably happiness. Why don't you ask God to fill you with his joy? I seriously recommend you do that before you continue arguing what you obviously don't have!

1. If it were the case, sure it would be so. However, what I have now is nothing like what I experienced while I was an unbeliever. And you should know that back then I dug deep into my mind to experience as much as I could of it, but nothing of what I had then can compare to what I have now.

2. God does not minister to anyone via emotions. Your emotions are instead regulated by your brain chemicals, your mood, and your disposition.

3. Stop spewing jargons if you don't even understand the difference between what God gives and what the chemicals in your brain relay to you.

bezimo:
Those who mock the anoited MUST end up as a mockery. Mark my words. You will soon know how far.

If you look around, you will see I make a mockery of your mockery of me!

bezimo:
God bless Daddy Enoch Adeboye.

I look at him and I wonder many things

How one can carry so much grace and anoiting and still be simple and humble.

Exactly my point and the thoughts that ran through my mind today that led to this post. I just concluded after much thought that this is why God uses and works through him more than other men of God. That's why I'm praying that God should keep him for us o.

omonnakoda:
1. This GOD EXPERIENCE is also a function of brain chemicals. You would not have it without a brain and a brain that has chemistry at that. It happens inside heads

I am afraid I don't follow at all.

omonnakoda:
So why now talking about it as if is is more than the fabrication of men

How did you arrive at it being a fabrication of men?

Kobojunkie:
How did you arrive at it being a fabrication of men?

It is obvious . The onus is not on me to prove that.

The Bible especially the so called Old Testament is essentially a history book/collection of myths of the Hebrew people.
There are similar myths and stories from around the world that have no objective basis
There is no reason to give biblical stories any greater credence than those of Shiva or Oduduwa or Zeus. They are all TALES
e,g we have stories like Jehovah saying the Hebrews are his chosen people. An obvious fabrication
also the purported
parting the Red Sea for Hebrew to walk on dry land etc

Manna from the sky is a particularly hilarious tale
It takes a particular level of gullibility for black Africans to accept these tales whilst rejecting their own myths

SO this Jehovah had no Agenda for Yoruba people or Chinese people? Just Hebrews?

That makes plenty of sense inside a Hebrew head but not in a properly functioning Yoruba head

Kobojunkie:
The statement in bold is a lie that was fed to you by your pastors and mogs. Jesus Christ sent all of His followers into the world to preach to both jews and gentiles alike.

Comprehension= 0

Where did I say that Jesus didn't send them to the World?

I said Peter focused on the Jew

Kobojunkie:
How did you arrive at it being a fabrication of men?

Firstly I refuse to suspend my brain
Christianity and the Bible did not come to Nigeria until maybe 200 years ago. But we have been here, our ancestors, for millenia

That should tell you Jehovah is NOTHING to do with black Africans
Jehovah was the deity of the Hebrew people with a totally different personality and appetite(for blood) and the modified version that Europeans created in the name of Christianity

omonnakoda:
1. It is obvious . The onus is not on me to prove that. The Bible especially the so called Old Testament is essentially a history book/collection of myths of the Hebrew people. There are similar myths and stories from around the world that have no objective basis There is no reason to give biblical stories any greater credence than those of Shiva or Oduduwa or Zeus. They are all TALES e,g we have stories like Jehovah saying the Hebrews are his chosen people. An obvious fabrication
also the purported parting the Red Sea for Hebrew to walk on dry land etc Manna from the sky is a particularly hilarious tale
It takes a particular level of gullibility for black Africans to accept these tales whilst rejecting their own myths

2. SO this Jehovah had no Agenda for Yoruba people or Chinese people? Just Hebrews? That makes plenty of sense inside a Hebrew head but not in a properly functioning Yoruba head

1. So basically, because you believe it is a fabrication, then it must be a fabrication for everyone else then? This is all about everyone seeing these things exactly as you do.

2. But it is stated right there in the book that His agenda is to harvest people from every tribe, and even tongue and every nation. Or must He do His Will according to your will instead?

phemmyfour:
Comprehension= 0 Where did I say that Jesus didn't send them to the World? I said Peter focused on the Jew

Again, that is a lie! Why? Because Jesus Christ Himself sent each and everyone of His followers to the Jews and the non-Jews in the world.

omonnakoda:
1. Firstly I refuse to suspend my brain
Christianity and the Bible did not come to Nigeria until maybe 200 years ago. But we have been here, our ancestors, for millenia

2. That should tell you Jehovah is NOTHING to do with black Africans Jehovah was the deity of the Hebrew people with a totally different personality and appetite(for blood) and the modified version that Europeans created in the name of Christianity

1. No one has asked you to suspend your brain here. But you are expected to engage your brain even when processing that which you obviously seem to have no love for.

2. YHWH doesn't care for your black movement either nor your many agitations. His focus is His Israel and His goal includes bringing them all back from every tribe, every tongue, and every nation out there.

Kobojunkie:
Again, that is a lie! Why? Because Jesus Christ Himself sent each and everyone of His followers to the Jews and the non-Jews in the world.

So why did Peter need another dream to be convinced before following Cornelius servant?

DIVAD2000:
:DAs if it's edifying in the first place.
All the best for you. Oh BTW did you go to church today? Or you've started your own church

Edifying? When Jesus Christ spent almost half of His time teaching against the lies spewed by the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law using God's name, who was edified by it?

Abeg, stop wasting my time.