Dtruthspeaker:


See this always lying devil and twisting serpent

Begotten basically means to "bring into existence"

beget
/bɪˈɡɛt/
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verbLITERARY
past participle: begotten
1.
(especially of a man) [b]bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.[/b]

2.
cause; bring about.

But perverts and sex demons like would only see sex as the only means of production and reproduction.

kkins25:

Just wanted to say this was a great read. You've also made presentation easy to grasp.

From a philosophical perspective, this does makes sense, down to each letter. Although, you've only mentioned one dark side of God, wrath.
It also seems to me that the attributes of God you've mentioned here goes no inche beyond what the human mind could comprehend. All you've mentioned here can be found in other religions who have no connection whatsoever with religions from Mesopotamia which i believe birthed all Abrahamic religions.

Therefore, as you've professed by the limits you've put on God, also considering that all things are made through him(col 1:6), other attributes from the dark side can equally be assigned to God. Death, Ignorance, hate, evil, unfaithful, and so on should be complete the nature of God. Abrahamic religion would continue to be a puppet show until every aspect of its philosophies are revised.

After all, I recall that infamous verse feom the book of Isaiah that says "I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7)

From a metaphysical point of view which is the reality of the concept of God anyway, Every ideological perception of God's essence, including the material essence, constitutes the totality of all attributes the human mind can comprehend and thise it cannot.

In case you should rebute with something in the likes of "That's all thats important to you" or "you abide by what is written in the bible,"

Then i should ask you:

1) Do you deem your self the genesis and Armageddon of knowledge?
2) given the shaky history of the origins of Christianity, Do you guarantee that your understanding of the word reflects the intentions of Jesus?
3) If your understanding of the bible comes from the bible, does that mean your understanding of God is limited to the understanding of your religious ancestors who wrote based on their own limited understanding of God?
4) Jesus proclaimed that his disciples would do greater deeds, but it seems to me that all not even the disciplines during their life time did anything beyond what their master did? For Jesus, God, to proclaim that mere humans can do greater than he implies, to me, that his work can be improved upon. From all you've said, and the little I've read on the subject matter, I am yet to see any improvements.

TruthHurts100:


Before can respond to this, first explain Revelation 20:14. If you can't explain it with scriptural reasoning, go ask those that destroyed the natural intelligent mind that God gave to you.

TruthHurts100:


And Jesus went there abi? Job even prayed to go to hell to rest. Olodo, dem dey rest inside fire?

xproducer:
"Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God." -John 5:18

"I and my Father are one." - John 10:30

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." - Colossians 2:9

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't follow!

■ Is it the case that some angels decided to source Evil out of good meaning good is the source of evil?
■ Or is it the angels had power enough to create evil meaning God is not the only creator that there is?
■ Or God Himself created evil as a choice and as such some angels where able to decide on evil upon of good?

Be the way, where does this story of yours -- the claim that some angels decided to do evil, come from?

2. So, God created good angels and then good angels decided to do evil and become Satan? Let me guess, this Satan is also magically God's equal?

Michael547:
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Lance00009:
To my own understanding they are same
Jesus represent God here on earth

TruthHurts100:


You don't know anything.

And I'm sorry for you. Who told you that the rich man and lazarus is a real story? It is an illustration sir. Study your Bible.

Steep:

First of all, God and Jesus are not the same in what way?
Yes God [the father] is not the same person as Jesus but however are one God.
Jesus christ as a man is less than the father but as God he and the father are one being (not in person).
The Trinity is the existence of one being in three persons or three persons in one being.

Jesus is the first born over all creation means he is the Supreme ruler over all or the head of all creation.

TruthHurts100:


Do you know the truth? You're the evil person calling a loving God a mass murderer. Your god go roast humans like Suya.

AntiChristian:

Thank God you defined it well! When it comes to animate things it's either sexual or assexual reproduction!...

Ken4Christ:


If he did it to Sodom and Gomorrah, what makes you think he won't do it to you. Your own sin is even worse than that of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ken4Christ:


What is there to explain. Death and Hell is not just a location. They are spiritual entities. And they will all be cast into the Lake of Fire.

It's just like throwing a burning stick into a bigger fire. This is actually a dumb thing to say sir. So empty. You wan destroy fire with fire. I will school you. I set you up. Your other colleague Oyakhilome was also so confused about the lies of hell that he said Hell has two compartments, that one part is good and the other is for punishment. I laughed ehnnn

It's like burning a house after the occupants have vacated it.

Both death and Hell will release the souls in them before they will be destroyed. Olodo, so after the first hell release the souls in them, they will now be transferred into the bigger hell pro max abi? You see, shey you see say you dumb? And na you first start to throw insults.

Michael547:

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Michael547:

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TruthHurts100:


Now everyone can see that you're confused and dumb. You came here with a lot of derogatory words when you are the one that is empty.

See how shallow your reasoning is. I just hope you've not packed innocent people together in one place, collecting their money, lie to them and destroying them.

Hell has nothing to do with fire. It's the people who has made you like this that added fire to hell. And your boss Satan the devil has always been looking for ways to tarnish the almighty's reputation and sovereignty.

Hell is an English word that means "to hide or to cover" if you don't believe, see attached image.

This clearly makes a lot of sense when the Bible said, Jesus went to Hell. Jesus died, he was covered or hidden (buried in a cave before his resurrection)
Job was in so much pains that he prayed to go to hell to rest. He was praying to die, so he won't suffer anymore (rest) until God will call him back to life.

Any right thinking person will know that Hell in its original meaning is Grave. Even the Hebrew language rendered it as "common grave"

Now let me help you make sense of Revelation 20:14.

Death and hell(grave) will be thrown into the lake of fire, meaning everlasting destruction. Is death and grave physical elements that can be destroyed by literal fire? Pastor, think! This shows that the fire means final destruction. Death will be no more, so as grave. When people stop dying, will there still be graves?

Shey you see how I used the scripture to explain the scripture? Stop saying things the Bible didn't say. The Bible can explain itself.

TruthHurts100:


Now everyone can see that you're confused and dumb. You came here with a lot of derogatory words when you are the one that is empty.

See how shallow your reasoning is. I just hope you've not packed innocent people together in one place, collecting their money, lie to them and destroying them.

Hell has nothing to do with fire. It's the people who has made you like this that added fire to hell. And your boss Satan the devil has always been looking for ways to tarnish the almighty's reputation and sovereignty.

Hell is an English word that means "to hide or to cover" if you don't believe, see attached image.

This clearly makes a lot of sense when the Bible said, Jesus went to Hell. Jesus died, he was covered or hidden (buried in a cave before his resurrection)
Job was in so much pains that he prayed to go to hell to rest. He was praying to die, so he won't suffer anymore (rest) until God will call him back to life.

Any right thinking person will know that Hell in its original meaning is Grave. Even the Hebrew language rendered it as "common grave"

Now let me help you make sense of Revelation 20:14.

Death and hell(grave) will be thrown into the lake of fire, meaning everlasting destruction. Is death and grave physical elements that can be destroyed by literal fire? Pastor, think! This shows that the fire means final destruction. Death will be no more, so as grave. When people stop dying, will there still be graves?

Shey you see how I used the scripture to explain the scripture? Stop saying things the Bible didn't say. The Bible can explain itself.

TruthHurts100:


He didn't just allow his son die for nothing Mr pastor. And you claim you know Jesus? Do you have any idea about the value of his death?

TruthHurts100:


Now everyone can see that you're confused and dumb. You came here with a lot of derogatory words when you are the one that is empty.

See how shallow your reasoning is. I just hope you've not packed innocent people together in one place, collecting their money, lie to them and destroying them.

Hell has nothing to do with fire. It's the people who has made you like this that added fire to hell. And your boss Satan the devil has always been looking for ways to tarnish the almighty's reputation and sovereignty.

Hell is an English word that means "to hide or to cover" if you don't believe, see attached image.

This clearly makes a lot of sense when the Bible said, Jesus went to Hell. Jesus died, he was covered or hidden (buried in a cave before his resurrection)
Job was in so much pains that he prayed to go to hell to rest. He was praying to die, so he won't suffer anymore (rest) until God will call him back to life.

Any right thinking person will know that Hell in its original meaning is Grave. Even the Hebrew language rendered it as "common grave"

Now let me help you make sense of Revelation 20:14.

Death and hell(grave) will be thrown into the lake of fire, meaning everlasting destruction. Is death and grave physical elements that can be destroyed by literal fire? Pastor, think! This shows that the fire means final destruction. Death will be no more, so as grave. When people stop dying, will there still be graves?

Shey you see how I used the scripture to explain the scripture? Stop saying things the Bible didn't say. The Bible can explain itself.

Ken4Christ:


Psalms 9:17
The WICKED SHALL BE TURNED INTO HELL, and all the nations that forget God.

If hell is grave, why did the verse above says that its the wicked that will go there?

There is no hiding place for your lies.

Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

AntiChristian:


Were did i say sex is the only means of reproduction? I mention sexual and assexual reproduction! Go and learn basic Biology!
Thank God you defined it well! When it comes to animate things it's either sexual or assexual reproduction!

The second definition is not applicable to Jesus with respect to God.

Janosky:



Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Janosky:



Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Janosky:



Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Janosky:



Psalm 9:17 correct translation (screenshot PROVEN evidence):
"The wicked shall return to the grave"
Oga Pastorpreneur, recall Genesis 3:19
Yahweh said "Adam return to the dust/grave"

Acts 2:27
"because You will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Acts 2:27 & Psalm 16:10 "thou shalt not leave my soul in hell" KJV

Cross References
Psalm 16:10
"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, nor will You let Your Holy One see decay."

Did Peter the apostle reference Psalm 16:10 that Jesus Christ was in hell where his resurrection happened?

Mumu pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Ken4Christ:


Matthew 13:37-43
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and BURNED IN THE FIRE; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.
When a farmer gathers weeds (tars) as illustrated by Jesus , are the tars BURNED IN THE FIRE in perpetual torment today?

Matthew 13:37-43, special emphasis on verses 40,42= Luke17:29 & Matthew 24:37-39, & Daniel 3:22, IYKYK.

Were evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH when Fire from heaven burnt them to ashes?

Is that fire tormenting the ashes of Sodom Gomorrah today?
This pastorpreneur, Sodom & Gomorrah burnt to ashes, Luke 17:29, according to Jesus Christ, are those evildoers in perpetual torment today?

Ken4Christ:


Jesus didn't use hell hear. He used furnace of fire. Tell us how Russell twisted this verse in your translation.

You are very very wicked. You see the truth and deny it because it doesn't agree with your pre conceived opinions.

Janosky:


Pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.
When a farmer gathers weeds (tars) as illustrated by Jesus , are the tars BURNED IN THE FIRE in perpetual torment today?

Matthew 13:37-43, special emphasis on verses 40,42= Luke17:29 & Matthew 24:37-39, & Daniel 3:22, IYKYK.

Were evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH when Fire from heaven burnt them to ashes?

Is that fire tormenting the ashes of Sodom Gomorrah today?
This pastorpreneur, Sodom & Gomorrah burnt to ashes, Luke 17:29, according to Jesus Christ, are those evildoers in perpetual torment today?


Were evildoers of Noah's day WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH when the flood destroyed them?

Matthew 13:40=2 Thess1:8-9,BURNED IN THE FIRE meaning destruction without redemption as it was in Daniel 3:22.

Matthew 13:42 is Jesus vivid description of the feeling of hopeless overwhelming the evildoers just as this Pastorpreneur would be "WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH " when flood ravages his farmland right before his eyes.




Pastorpreneur TWISTING the holy scriptures.
Are the evildoers in the burning furnace of Daniel 3:22 WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH in perpetual torment today?

You don't understand Matthew 13:40-42 in the same manner you can't understand Daniel 3:22.

Both furnace of fire served the same purpose- to destroy as punishment.