Janosky:

This Pastorpreneur
Pastorpreneur
GIBBERISH .

Janosky:

(your fellow 3 persons deities worshipper)

Ken4Christ:


You are indirectly insulting Jesus you claim to follow his teachings.

You are saying that Jesus is having a picture of imaginary hell because he spoke about it in such a way that it could be understood that it is a place of torture.

See what will happen to an hypocrite like you who reject the truth

Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Luke 13:28 THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Tell me that Jesus was imagining a place of torture that didn't exist.

A weed smoker is better than you.

Maybe, this will fit you better. Wailing is worse than weeping.

Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Matthew 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

Tell me again that Jesus was imagining these places. Hypocrite.

johnw47:

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

lost fool u insanely laugh at your own non funny lies all over the place, of course



Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky, forever loving to lie and blaspheme the Christian Father and Son and Holy Spirit
of the Bible calling them 3 deities which means 3 god's
you have also called them: "the 3 dogheads", and you have called the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible: "the ole demon ghost":

Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:

Oga, go worship your 3 deities in peace.
Which one be your problem?

Janosky:


Oga, pour premium motor spirit on yourself and light match stick & you won't have skin pains,no burnt skin,no burnt hair but gnashing your teeth from eternity to eternity.

Person wey God give brain go dey deceive himself.
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Janosky:

Oga, go worship your 3 deities in peace.
Which one be your problem?

Ken4Christ:

Not every statement in the Bible was inspired by God. Satan also spoke and his words were recorded in the Bible. Will you say Satan was inspired too? Even God himself condemned some statements made by Job during his days of afflictions. Apostle Paul who said that all scriptures are inspired by God also said some of the things he wrote are his opinions on few occasions. So, don't ride on Paul's statement and hold on to verses that appears to agree with your opinions and turn blind eyes to those that don't agree.

MaxInDHouse:
Did Satan say anything like teaching people?

Come on, God inspired his servants to tell us the condition of the dead {Eccl 9:5-20} before Jesus came teaching in parables {Matt 13:13} so if you're ruling out what those prophet taught then you can't make anyone believe in Jesus because it's the same prophets that were inspired to prophesy about the coming of Christ!

Ken4Christ:

Was the writer of Ecclesiastes a prophet? The writer is revealed to be King Solomon. He wasn't a prophet. So, all what he wrote couldn't have been inspired by God.

MaxInDHouse:
Solomon wrote the Bible book of PROVERBS as a prophet of God and for your information misinformed Church boy ECCLESIASTES means PREACHERS.
So those words were INSPIRED!

Ken4Christ:

But the words of Jesus are not inspired? Ode.
Syllabus has been upgraded but you are looking for the old one to use.
Please, upgrade your senses.
I pray that demons in hell continue to torture Rutherford and Russell for damaging your brain.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

So whatever Jesus says should be thoroughly meditated upon to know the correlation with what the prophets were inspired to write.

God never upgraded His punishment for sin it has always been the same:

The wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17

Guy this your imaginary hell has turned your brains o, because if demons are the ones tormenting people in your hell then it means they're enjoying the show as the servants of your god punishing those who refused to bow to your stupid god!

Ken4Christ:

How could I known hell existed except from the Bible and the very lips of Jesus? So, you are saying that Jesus just imagined what does not exist? Don't worry, since you are rejecting the free gift of salvation, you will dance ajasco in hell, wail, weep and regret for the rest of your life in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
Madness is your name!

Hell means Grave and there's no feelings in the grave {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} if you don't know what Jesus meant go out there and make research!

Ken4Christ:

You see how foolish you are. In your village grave, people weep and gnash their teeth. In your village, corpses are thrown into the grave.
In your village, fire that is never quenched burns in your grave. In your village, your grave is so deep that it is used as a reference for depth. In your village, your graves have gates. Jesus spoke about the gates of hell. I will ask the Lord to permit me to see your torture in hell when the time comes. You want to win an argument at all cost when deep within, you know they hold no water.

MaxInDHouse:
Idiot!
Go find the meaning of the word translated Hell first then come back to argue.

Ken4Christ:


The meaning is clear.

Jesus made it very clear.

But your damaged brain has chosen to reject the truth.

I will supervise torture in hell.

Son of perdition.

Ken4Christ:


The meaning is clear.

Jesus made it very clear.

But your damaged brain has chosen to reject the truth.

I will supervise torture in hell.

Son of perdition.

Werey wey no know the meaning of Perdition is the extreme opposite of everlasting torture.

Oga, feel free to supervise your delusion.

Psalm 16:10 referenced in Acts chapter 2, Jesus Christ was in hell for three days.

Ken4Christ:


You see how foolish you are.

In your village grave, people weep and gnash their teeth.

In your village, corpses are thrown into the grave.

In your village, fire that is never quenched burns in your grave.

In your village, your grave is so deep that it is used as a reference for depth.

In your village, your graves have gates. Jesus spoke about the gates of hell.

I will ask the Lord to permit me to see your torture in hell when the time comes.

You want to win an argument at all cost when deep within, you know they hold no water.

Janosky:

Pastorpreneur

Janosky:

Pastorpreneur

Janosky:

Deluded Pastorpreneur

johnw47:



Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

show that Ken4Christ is a pastorpreneur,
show just one church that he has started up

you false jw's lie non stop

tatime and mad max said i was a pastor of some church,
mad max also said that i was olaadegbu and emusan

you false jw's are habitual liars and paranoid as hell


your lies and fearful paranoia are from your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Ken4Christ:


Don't mind them. It's a shame that they are devoting their time and energy to defend lies started by one son of perdition who is already burning in hell. And they too will not escape the damnation of hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀ Hell simply means Grave everyone goes there after death, go and learn!

Ken4Christ:

Your mumu too much. Repent before it's too late. If hell means grave, what does Lake of Fire mean?

TruthHurts100:
When you hear the truth, may the devil not close your ears to it.

Many people today believe that God and Jesus are the same. Well, that's not true.

God does not have a beginning, Jesus has. Col 15:1 Refers to Jesus as the first born of all creation. He was created directly by God and that is why he's referred to as the only begotten son of God.

Jesus on numerous occasions calls God his father and that he's here to do the will of the one who sent him. He asked God for permission in prayers to do certain things.
When he was about to die, he called to his fathers again.

So, does it make sense to say Jesus sent himself, took permission from himself, pray to himself and most of all sacrifice himself to himself for our sakes?

Yes! Before you tell me Jesus said he and his father are one as written at John 10:30.
Note the meaning of what he meant as he used the same term when praying for his Apostles at John 17:11

11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Was Jesus talking about equality here? He said they should be one just like he and the father are one.


I rest my case.

If you still want to believe in the trinity lies that was never mentioned in the Bible. You are on your own.

God will not share his glory with anyone, not even Jesus that he created.

I know another scripture you might want to quote.... Bring it on.

MaxInDHouse:

Lake of Fire means SECOND DEATH. Rev 20:14

Hope you still believe in your copy of the Bible!

tctrills:

You ended your presentation by saying bring it on so clearly, you came here with the intention to debate.
Let's start with one question, Isiah called Jesus Christ the 'Everlasting Father" what does that mean to you?

Also explain this verses below,

Philippians 2:5-6
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

TruthHurts100:


Lol, you quoted just one scripture to back up this satanic lie. Well, the sponsor of this Bible translation you quoted from, deliberately removed God's name that appeared more than 7000 times from the original manuscript, how do you trust such translation? If na scriptural debate you want, bring it on.

This scripture you quoted in other translations is a direct opposite of your insinuation. For example, the American standard version says : who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Now that I have answered you, pls explain this scripture too.

John 14:28, just see how your KJv made a mockery of itself.

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

I think this is as clear as the day.

Shalom.

tctrills:


First, I am not backing up anything. You are only being defensive. I did not even state my position. I only asked you questions to fully understand your position but as a typical Nairaland Christian, you believe every question is a fight.

Secondly you have only added more questions that answers because you need to prove that your translation is correct.

Lastly, you never answered my first question. Please Explain how Jesus Christ is the Everlasting Father. Note, the key word, Everlasting.