They claimed that we were created by one God and that He wants us to love one another. Yet they killed and enslaved us for centuries. I still can't wrap my mind around what happened. One thing I know though is that no one either dead or alive know anything about God. Everything you've been told about God is either an assumption or blatant lies.

Free Your Mind!

AOB

Be specific and stop generalizing. Which of the religious groups are you referring to ?

JOKO44:
They claimed that we were created by one God and that He wants us to love one another. Yet they killed and enslaved us for centuries. I still can't wrap my mind around what happened. One thing I know though is that no one either dead or alive know anything about God. Everything you've been told about God is either an assumption or blatant lies.

Free Your Mind!

AOB

How then do you know about the word “god”? According to you isn’t that also a blatant lie and assumption?

Jashub:
Be specific and stop generalizing. Which of the religious groups are you referring to ?

Odd enough, both religions brought to Nigeria were used to enslave Nigerians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Jashub:
Be specific and stop generalizing. Which of the religious groups are you referring to ?

Nothing to be specific about. All religions have the same mission. To gain power and control others. It's always being like that and still continue till date.

Maynman:


How then do you know about the word “god”? According to you isn’t that also a blatant lie and assumption?

For sure, there is power that above us. You can call the power any name of your choice. God, Allah, Chineke, Eledumare, Jehovah e.t.c.
However, people hide behind those names to deceive other people in order to gain power. And use the power to accumulate wealth.

JOKO44:


For sure, there is power that above us. You can call the power any name of your choice. God, Allah, Chineke, Eledumare, Jehovah e.t.c.
However, people hide behind those names to deceive other people in order to gain power. And use the power to accumulate wealth.

Which power above you?who taught you that? The same people with blatant lies and assumptions? Are you also not doing the same thing now?

god is a title not a person.
Allah is the arabic god different from chineke( you should look up how chineke came to be), eledumare is the yoruba god and Jehovah is a common Israelite god, all of them are different and do different things according to what we read in their MYTHOLOGY.

All the names you mentioned who taught you?

Jashub:
Be specific and stop generalizing. Which of the religious groups are you referring to ?

The question should be which God

JOKO44:


Nothing to be specific about. All religions have the same mission. To gain power and control others. It's always being like that and still continue till date.

That's an assumption you cant prove

Maynman:


Which power above you?who taught you that? The same people with blatant lies and assumptions? Are you also not doing the same thing now?

god is a title not a person.
Allah is the arabic god different from chineke( you should look up how chineke came to be), eledumare is the yoruba god and Jehovah is a common Israelite god, all of them are different and do different things according to what we read in their MYTHOLOGY.

All the names you mentioned who taught you?

You don't need anyone to tell you that there is a power above humans. Look around and ask yourself where are all these creatures come from. The plants, the animals, the ocean, the mountains etc. But who is the owner of this Supreme power? No one knows.

How did you arrive at "who", is this owner a person?

JOKO44:


You don't need anyone to tell you that there is a power above humans. Look around and ask yourself where are all these creatures come from. The plants, the animals, the ocean, the mountains etc. But who is the owner of this Supreme power? No one knows.

The owner of this supreme power who and what created it? Where did it come from?

How did you arrive that a single power was responsible for the creation of plants and also animals?
Why not multiple powers?

Since no one knows the owner of this supreme power, then how did you conclude that there's a supreme power not powers and it has an owner not owners? By looking around?

JOKO44:


You don't need anyone to tell you that there is a power above humans. Look around and ask yourself where are all these creatures come from. The plants, the animals, the ocean, the mountains etc. But who is the owner of this Supreme power? No one knows.

Yes there's a power above humans, we call it the sun. LoLz.

JOKO44:
They claimed that we were created by one God and that He wants us to love one another. Yet they killed and enslaved us for centuries. I still can't wrap my mind around what happened. One thing I know though is that no one either dead or alive know anything about God. Everything you've been told about God is either an assumption or blatant lies.

Free Your Mind!

AOB

How does this make sense? Is it not clear that people are the ones enslaving people because they can eg Buhari vs the masses?

Just say that you are writing your name in the book of those who hate God.

LordReed:


Yes there's a power above humans, we call it the sun. LoLz.

And death too is another power that is greater than men.

budaatum:


Odd enough, both religions brought to Nigeria were used to enslave Nigerians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

There are many things that they have brought to enslave people eg education, technology, movies, books, Google, football, betting things etc.

Maynman:
How did you arrive at "who", is this owner a person?



The owner of this supreme power who and what created it? Where did it come from?

How did you arrive that a single power was responsible for the creation of plants and also animals?
Why not multiple powers?

Since no one ones knows the owner of this supreme power, then how did you conclude that there's a supreme power not powers and it has an owner not owners? By looking around?

You are right. Everything we think we know about Supreme power or powers are just assumptions and speculations.

JOKO44:


Nothing to be specific about. All religions have the same mission. To gain power and control others. It's always being like that and still continue till date.

All men have power and can take control of others eg your parents, neighbours, the strong man, the murderous criminal etc

Dtruthspeaker:


There are many things that they have brought to enslave people who education, technology, movies, books, Google, football, betting things etc.

My point actually is that religion was not used to enslave anyone, though I did missphrase my comment.

Facts are, some hid behind religion to enslave others, but that was not the intent of religions in their own right, nor of education, both of which eventually set one free from slavery.

budaatum:

My point actually is that religion was not used to enslave anyone, though I did missphrase my comment.

That is not true. Everything including out natural respect for He Who is called God was used to enslave together with money, aggravated sex, chocolate, prosperity, beauty etc.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is not true. Everything including out natural respect for He Who is called God was used to enslave together with money, aggravated sex, chocolate, prosperity, beauty etc.

That is your own opinion, and I don't share it with you. I'd in fact claim people are enslaved due to their own ignorance, same way ignorance kills people earlier than they would have died if they had knowledge.

Evidence shows we humans were enslaving ourselves long before anyone brought us religion or education.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_antiquity

budaatum:


That is your own opinion, and I don't share it with you. I'd in fact claim people are enslaved due to their own ignorance, same way ignorance kills people earlier than they would have died if they had knowledge.

Evidence shows we humans were enslaving ourselves long before anyone brought us religion or education.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_antiquity

Since you admit that people were already enslaved here even before those white and foreign invaders came, then you prove my point. For our own parents enslaved us with the use of canes, food, play, sleep, work, fruits, ice-cream etc before the strongest man and men did their own and in all these the slave is not strong enough to resist them.

All done before those foreign bandits came.

So, devotion to God was another means in addition to other forms of slavery and this reminds me of babalawos and dibias who because of their god connection also used their position to enslave others.

So in the end you still prove me right!

Dtruthspeaker:


And death too is another power that is greater than men.

Death isn't a power.

Dtruthspeaker:


Since you admit that people were already enslaved here even before those white and foreign invaders came, then you prove my point. For our own parents enslaved us with the use of canes, food, play, sleep, work, fruits, ice-cream etc before the strongest man and men did their own and in all these the slave is not strong enough to resist them.

All done before those foreign bandits came.

So, devotion to God was another means in addition to other forms of slavery and this reminds me of babalawos and dibias who because of their god connection also used their position to enslave others.

So in the end you still prove me right!

Sorry but I think you have a very unusual definition of slavery which I do not agree with. Not many will claim their relationship with their parent's is one of slavery or that they are enslaved by their parents with those things you mentioned.

See the definition of slavery here and let me know if that is the relationship you have with your own parents. If it is, please consider having them charged with child abuse.

budaatum:
Sorry but I think you have a very unusual definition of slavery which I do not agree with. Not many will claim their relationship with their parent's is one of slavery or that they are enslaved by their parents with those things you mentioned.

I made no claim that all children are enslaved by their parents but you got my point which is that we are aware that some children were enslaved by their parents like these cases

https://www.nairaland.com/5716011/lagos-state-rescues-boy-severely#87121661

https://www.nairaland.com/4309418/police-rescues-boy-chained-ogun#64484502

LordReed:
Death isn't a power.

Romans 6:8-11
8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live [together] with Him,
9because we know [the self-evident truth] that Christ, having been raised from the dead, will never die again;
death no longer has power over Him.
10For the death that He died, He died to sin [ending its power and paying the sinner’s debt] once and for all;
and the life that He lives, He lives to [glorify] God [in unbroken fellowship with Him].
11Even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin [and your relationship to it broken],
but alive to God [in unbroken fellowship with Him] in Christ Jesus

The tongue has the power of life and death (i.e. Proverbs 18:21)

Yes, you're correct, in that, truly, death isnt reckoned being a power anymore, simply because of the fact that, God came to earth, became one of us, lived among us, literally lived our life, experienced death on our behalf, and from, thereafter, He broke, not only the power of death, but also, broke its backbone.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}🥴

NNTR:
Romans 6:8-11
8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live [together] with Him,
9because we know [the self-evident truth] that Christ, having been raised from the dead, will never die again;
death no longer has power over Him.
10For the death that He died, He died to sin [ending its power and paying the sinner’s debt] once and for all;
and the life that He lives, He lives to [glorify] God [in unbroken fellowship with Him].
11Even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin [and your relationship to it broken],
but alive to God [in unbroken fellowship with Him] in Christ Jesus

The tongue has the power of life and death (i.e. Proverbs 18:21)

Yes, you're correctly, in that, truly, death isnt reckoned being a power anymore, simply because of the fact that, God came to earth, became one of us, lived among us, literally lived our life, experienced death on our behalf, and from, thereafter, He broke, not only the power of death, but also, broke its backbone.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}🥴

I don't care about your fairytale, death isn't a power because death is not a thing that does work (definition of power is ability to do work), it's how we describe the state of a system no longer functioning.

NNTR:
Romans 6:8-11
8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live [together] with Him,
9because we know [the self-evident truth] that Christ, having been raised from the dead, will never die again;
death no longer has power over Him.
10For the death that He died, He died to sin [ending its power and paying the sinner’s debt] once and for all;
and the life that He lives, He lives to [glorify] God [in unbroken fellowship with Him].
11Even so, consider yourselves to be dead to sin [and your relationship to it broken],
but alive to God [in unbroken fellowship with Him] in Christ Jesus

The tongue has the power of life and death (i.e. Proverbs 18:21)

Yes, you're correctly, in that, truly, death isnt reckoned being a power anymore, simply because of the fact that, God came to earth, became one of us, lived among us, literally lived our life, experienced death on our behalf, and from, thereafter, He broke, not only the power of death, but also, broke its backbone.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}🥴

You’ve been duped.
Your iesus chrestus is dead and gone

LordReed:


Death isn't a power.

It is a power!

Dtruthspeaker:


It is!

How is it a power?

LordReed:


How is it a power?

Because like the sun which you agreed has power over us through its exertion of its power of light and heat, Death too is exerting its power to cut us from living on the earth, and like the sun we can not stop it either.

Dtruthspeaker:


Because like the sun which you agreed has power over us through its exertion of its power of light and heat, Death too is exerting its power to cut us from living on the earth, and like the sun we can not stop it either.

Death is a state not a thing so when you say it's exerting power there is nothing doing that. We can see the sun but can you say the same for "death"? Nope because it is not a thing.

LordReed:


Death is a state not a thing so when you say it's exerting power there is nothing doing that. We can see the sun but can you say the same for "death"? Nope because it is not a thing.

Now you have changed post!

Death is a thing which after it has exercised it's power of taking its target leaves their "empty" shells (bodies) behind, which we see, exactly as when the sun burns brightly, the living man must sweat.

So we have seen it.